Indeed, very surprised by Sunn's lack of communication. I ordered a beta lead (for Switzerland 🇨🇭) and was hoping them saying they'd ship end of Feb would be true. We'll see 😅
@FuzzedDrones I haven't received a single email. Haven't written to them either, tbh. In fact, all I gathered was they said End of 2023 they'd ship the amp in 2024. And a couple of days ago that shipping of beta leads would be End of Feb. Plus, as you said, not a single video of these frigging amps. What worries me is the fact they look for investors (meaning they don't have the money). Plus today they sent an email (probably first time!) saying they are launching a Wefunder campaign...
@the_red_channel that is awful . They were quick to take the money . But now that they have it they are no where to be found . I saw that as well that just seems like a scam and a half . Like you said I bet you they are out of money . I really hope you get your amp .
@FuzzedDrones I sure do hope, too. I've been quite naive in placing a preorder and just assuming these amps would sound like the old ones like yours 😅. Hoping it will not be the sound of silence 😅
True. I should have elaborated... I wasn't compairing the new Beta Lead to the old Beta Lead. I was compairing the price of the new Beya Lead to the price of new point-to-point wired amps which cost two or three times more.
The thing that bothers me most is they seem to have a pretty dismissive attitude to the core audience. In the few interviews I've seen they have said stuff like "oh well we can't be successful if we just sell amps to doom guys." That's the market for the amps! No one else cares about Sunn.
Man I’d rather just place an order for a Science Amp than pay for any of the sunn stuff. 😂😂 I’m sorry, I can’t get enough of the comment section. I had to post another
@@FuzzedDrones i just did that didn't want to wait and got a original beta bass head for 600 bucks in excellent condition. Now i just need the gd footswitch 😂
I ordered my sunn beta lead amp in feb 2024 and didn't get it until the end July. Im still waiting for the foot switch. I haven't hooked the amp up yet as Im waiting to buy an old Sunn 6 10 cabinet. That should sound pretty sweet.
I preordered a Beta Lead in early December. I got a response to when it was shipping saying on an IG comment saying end of Feb, that’s it. I did just email them for an update so we’ll see how that goes. I also talked to a guy in a Sunn owners FB group that works there and said he was told that they are ready and just waiting on the knobs, which are supposedly delayed. I’m still optimistic, but who knows. I’ll update this comment if I get anymore info.
Just got a reply (within an hour of emailing them) from Sunn: Thanks for checking in. Betas are currently finishing production and we expect to begin shipping Beta Pre-orders at the end of this month. You’ll receive an email with the tracking information as soon as yours ships.
It's past the end of February and Sunn has still not sent the Beta leads like they said they would. Sunn has now resorted to turning the comments off on their Facebook and Instagram pages.
@@FuzzedDrones yeah, I'm not even going to try to pay for one until they start shipping. I would've gone with other brands (because I was looking for my first amp head) but they are all either: way more expensive (mesa boogie), are of questionable quality unless you get the highest end models (marshall), they are constantly out of stock (hilbish design), or their design language makes me feel funky (orange).
I saw on Instagram that they announced their next round of funding for investors. One of the responses to the post was, “We literally just want a Model T.” And I think that sums up Sunn in a nutshell. It would be like Gibson doing a relaunch without a Les Paul in their lineup. Sure, the SG, Explorer, V, and Firebird are all great guitars, but the Les Paul is the signature model. The owners claimed they’re trying to find a way to rerelease the Model T and still keep it affordable but I feel like that’s something they should have figured out before the relaunch.
There was an interview with two guys from Sunn Amps the other day (which was recorded last year...) and one of them said, along the lines of, "Had we started off with the Model T it would have been a bad business move." I thought, 'Okaaay... Funny you should say that because I did notice an overwhelming amount of people crying out and willing to pay over 3K for Sunn 100S' with PCBs.' Not... Oooouf... Im sticking with my Stoneham Amplification T.
I've been watching with extreme interest, and totally disappointed at the lack of substantial info/demos etc. They are really botching it. If you do the math on their preorders, they maybe sold 60 amps. I guess that's why they need the wefunder. I saw someone on their facebook page say something about the shipping date now slipping to late March. Man, they were JUST telling people the other day they were shipping this month. I refuse to place an order unless I see an independent review that does a teardown and analysis.
Got an email today advertising selling shares in the company at $100 each. Essentially a Kickstarter. Promising work being put into Model Ts etc and the shares maybe increasing in value. The other thing that's funny is the pics of Hendrix using Sunns. He got them either as a rented backline or were gifted them. He used them for one small tour and never again because he hated them haha.
Sounds like a ScamO))) to me . I wouldn’t trust that at all lol . That tells me they are broke . I’ve never heard about another company doing this . Yeah the whole Hendrix thing is pretty funny . When I think of him I think of 2 things Marshall’s and Stratocasters .
I could bang on for ages about this, but the short version of my thoughts is this: These bozos have bought the brand and the schematics but simply don't have resources and economies of scale to build a value-for-money product, and by the looks of things don't have the cash to build anything at all. $1000 bucks for a Beta Lead is completely absurd: you can buy an original one and have it professionally recapped for significantly less than that and end up with a far more desirable amp. You could also buy something like a Peavey Century or an HH IC100 and get to a similar place for way less even than that. If you're desperate for a new beta lead there are clones available for something like $600 to your door (still too much IMO, but you can buy one and play it days later). Nobody is going to preorder one of these. If they'd pitched it to compete with the Orange Super Crush 100 then they'd be inundated, but only big companies manufacturing in volume can produce a quality product for $400 (this is why 'boutique' pedal builders charge $200 for a basic fuzz based on a 60 year-old circuit when Behringer can do it for $40. Economies of scale). The one and only model they could justify charging over $1000 for is the Model T. Why on Earth they didn't plan to launch that first God alone knows. Nobody is going to pay $1000 shipped for a solid state amp that doesn't even exist yet.
April 13th, still waiting for my Beta Lead... Second hand originals are quite rare in Europe so I was stoked to get my hands on a brand new one. I'm starting to regret this... Last news from them said they'd ship by March 18th after some delay, but I'm still waiting. Zero communication on their part, you basically have to spam email them for some infos, they never care to come up front and give their customers some update. Anyone else in this situation ? I'm kinda considering asking for a refund
I’m sorry to hear that Thomas . At this point I would have asked for my refund a long time ago . This company obviously doesn’t care about customer service or anything .
@@FuzzedDrones Just asked for a refund and waiting for their reply. Hopefully I can put this behind me.. What a disappointment. How can they expect to sell their amplifiers working like this ? And even if they do ship one day, I don't even want to imagine how they handle repairs and warranties. Steer clear from these guys
@@breaths_band that's awesome you finally received yours ! Are you based in Europe ? I'm still waiting for mine and they haven't replied to a single of my emails since march... So I'm still quite worried tbh
Got my new beta lead yesterday and it’s killer. I posted an iPhone video of me jamming on it last night on my channel. Now everyone can stop with the ‘Scam O)))’ nonsense, it’s real 😂
I preordered one at the end of last year. Not shipped yet. Edit (November 13.2024): still not shipped and they are not even answering my mails Feels like I’m being scammed
I am one of the people who pre ordered a beta bass. I sent them an email asking beforehand what the turnaround was on March 28th 2024. They told me that they were shipping then on a first come first serve basis. I pulled the trigger and got an estimated ship date of April 8th. It is now May 28th and I still do not have an amp. I have sent them multiple emails with no response. They also wont respond on social media. I am a patient person. I gave them weeks before I started trying to contact them. But after this long I am starting to think I may be screwed out of 799.00. Is there anyone out there that has ordered one and received it? I see their Twitter posts that show them being assembled and tested but that's about it.
I’m sorry you have to deal with this . I’ve been seeing a lot of people ask online when they are shipping . Then they don’t get a or they reply back by saying please email us . You are not the first person who has said something like this . But it’s just really unfortunate that anyone has to deal with this . Please keep us updated!
@@breaths_band I filed a case with PayPal and finally responded and said I should be getting tracking soon. I am patient but when I seen other people having the same concern I got nervous becuse they originally have me estimated ship date of early April.
I think they eventually will because they have to fulfill the ones they sold already . But I don’t think it will be anytime soon . This whole relaunch has just been disappointing.
I sent them an email to see if they ship internationally before I dropped the $800 for a Beta. Absolute radio silence from Sunn. It's not looking well. The fact that they are not shipping internationally coupled with their plain stupid choice of the 100S & 200S as their tube amps rather than a model T tells me this company has no money, staff or any idea who their audience is. Not catering to the Doom crowd is akin to shooting yourself in the foot with your own gun.
I was ready to preorder a PL20 but wanted to know when it would ship so i sent them an email. Never heard back. Held off. I think that was the right decision.
My favorite part is how they instantly delete all the Facebook comments of people presenting very valid complaints. I was a guinea pig and bought a beta lead, and as everyone else all I've heard was "late February" 2 more days....
@@beastialpiglord3614 man that sucks . Did they say why ? Also did they reach out to you to let you know . Or did you have to contact them to get an update .
@FuzzedDrones neither, some dude who commented on their post said he was told another month. I almost don't even want one because this company fucking sucks. Jk I want one
Weird timing I was just wondering WTF happened to these reissues. So.. about that line6 model T comparison video.. when is that happening!?? M .O .O .N, that spells model T
I used the Helix Sunn Model T model for my entire new album (along with various fuzz pedals in the FX loops of course). I don’t have the amp to compare it to, but love the amp model.
Yes... no soundclips, no pics. Just a pics from 60s and 70s. Who really cares about this? It's nice, it is Conrad's legacy but it is 2024 and we all are waiting for something else. I don't know.
Its weird for real, if they dont start producing some product soon they will for sure be doomed to fail,i still think the 200s as a flagship was completely retarded. If it where me beta,model T even if it was a 50 watt,and a new design would have been my launch and i would have had at least some ready to go as well as flooding with demos and such
Do we even know these reissues are the real deal? How much you want to bed they pulled a Gibson Falcon and are just emulating the vintage circuit with cheap, crappy parts?
Indeed, very surprised by Sunn's lack of communication. I ordered a beta lead (for Switzerland 🇨🇭) and was hoping them saying they'd ship end of Feb would be true. We'll see 😅
You are one of the first people that I’ve spoken to that ordered one . So the communication has been poor so far ?
@FuzzedDrones I haven't received a single email. Haven't written to them either, tbh. In fact, all I gathered was they said End of 2023 they'd ship the amp in 2024. And a couple of days ago that shipping of beta leads would be End of Feb. Plus, as you said, not a single video of these frigging amps. What worries me is the fact they look for investors (meaning they don't have the money). Plus today they sent an email (probably first time!) saying they are launching a Wefunder campaign...
@the_red_channel that is awful . They were quick to take the money . But now that they have it they are no where to be found .
I saw that as well that just seems like a scam and a half . Like you said I bet you they are out of money . I really hope you get your amp .
@FuzzedDrones I sure do hope, too. I've been quite naive in placing a preorder and just assuming these amps would sound like the old ones like yours 😅. Hoping it will not be the sound of silence 😅
we experienced the same lack of communication with our Tshirt orders (for Switzerland 🇨🇭) jvguitars and me.
I'm not "pre-ordering" ANYTHING until I know someone who really received a new Sunn amp.
Whoever bought the rights is clueless. They marketed the wrong models to the wrong audiences at outrageous prices. Its like they intentionally failed.
They are clueless and out of touch with their core audience .
The Beta Lead is reasonably priced... although, it's pc board, not point-to-point wiring.
@@ajaxlepinski3285 so was the original, to be fair
@@ajaxlepinski3285The Beta Lead was never point to point.
True. I should have elaborated... I wasn't compairing the new Beta Lead to the old Beta Lead. I was compairing the price of the new Beya Lead to the price of new point-to-point wired amps which cost two or three times more.
The thing that bothers me most is they seem to have a pretty dismissive attitude to the core audience. In the few interviews I've seen they have said stuff like "oh well we can't be successful if we just sell amps to doom guys."
That's the market for the amps! No one else cares about Sunn.
I watched the interview by Dr Gear... That just looked like a shill gig going on.
Man I’d rather just place an order for a Science Amp than pay for any of the sunn stuff. 😂😂
I’m sorry, I can’t get enough of the comment section. I had to post another
Science is the Truth !
THIS IS WHY YOU BUY HILBISH😤👏🏽
Or just buy a used one and fix it up .
@@FuzzedDrones i just did that didn't want to wait and got a original beta bass head for 600 bucks in excellent condition. Now i just need the gd footswitch 😂
I bought the first Ceriatone Model Tee... it ROCKS!!!
@@ajaxlepinski3285I seen the two part videos Ceriatone posted on their channel, that thing sounds great.
I went to Stoneham Amplification for my T.
The hilbish amps sound little to nothing like the betas sadly. I’ve tried them side by side.
I ordered my sunn beta lead amp in feb 2024 and didn't get it until the end July. Im still waiting for the foot switch. I haven't hooked the amp up yet as Im waiting to buy an old Sunn 6 10 cabinet. That should sound pretty sweet.
Not. A. Single. Damn. Thing. 😂
ScamO))) 😂
hahahah@@FuzzedDrones
I preordered a Beta Lead in early December. I got a response to when it was shipping saying on an IG comment saying end of Feb, that’s it. I did just email them for an update so we’ll see how that goes. I also talked to a guy in a Sunn owners FB group that works there and said he was told that they are ready and just waiting on the knobs, which are supposedly delayed. I’m still optimistic, but who knows. I’ll update this comment if I get anymore info.
Just got a reply (within an hour of emailing them) from Sunn:
Thanks for checking in. Betas are currently finishing production and we expect to begin shipping Beta Pre-orders at the end of this month. You’ll receive an email with the tracking information as soon as yours ships.
Fingers crossed for you man!
Hmmmm will see I sure hope they do ship . Just for the sake of everyone who pre ordered one .
@@breaths_band just curious, anything new about the pre-order? It's March now and people are still waiting for their Betas.
Yeah, the knobs were delayed and they expect to have them next week then ship shortly after. I’ve seen pics and videos of them being built/tested now.
I just ordered the preamp and a t-shirt two weeks ago. I haven't heard a thing from them but the t-shirt shipped immediately.
It's past the end of February and Sunn has still not sent the Beta leads like they said they would. Sunn has now resorted to turning the comments off on their Facebook and Instagram pages.
It's concerning, indeed
I have pre-ordered one. I emailed them asking for an eta late Dec, they said they will be shipping the betas at the end of Feb. fingers crossed
The 100S is a mean amp tho. I think it’s a forgotten gem of the Sunn Empire.
btw as of April 26th, 2024 they FINALLY released video of working amps. I expect them to ship in the next month or so.
I’m just kind of over the whole Sunn thing now . I still can’t believe they haven’t shipped any betas . What are we now at 7 months and or so ?
@@FuzzedDrones yeah, I'm not even going to try to pay for one until they start shipping. I would've gone with other brands (because I was looking for my first amp head) but they are all either: way more expensive (mesa boogie), are of questionable quality unless you get the highest end models (marshall), they are constantly out of stock (hilbish design), or their design language makes me feel funky (orange).
I saw on Instagram that they announced their next round of funding for investors. One of the responses to the post was, “We literally just want a Model T.” And I think that sums up Sunn in a nutshell. It would be like Gibson doing a relaunch without a Les Paul in their lineup. Sure, the SG, Explorer, V, and Firebird are all great guitars, but the Les Paul is the signature model. The owners claimed they’re trying to find a way to rerelease the Model T and still keep it affordable but I feel like that’s something they should have figured out before the relaunch.
I've been getting pop ups on Edge from Sunn looking for investors.
There was an interview with two guys from Sunn Amps the other day (which was recorded last year...) and one of them said, along the lines of, "Had we started off with the Model T it would have been a bad business move."
I thought, 'Okaaay... Funny you should say that because I did notice an overwhelming amount of people crying out and willing to pay over 3K for Sunn 100S' with PCBs.' Not...
Oooouf...
Im sticking with my Stoneham Amplification T.
I'm glad I got my beta 6 years ago
Just grabbed one a few months ago . It was a package deal for a beta and blue voodoo for $300 . Couldn’t be happier .
My OG Beta Lead is the only one I need. Wouldn’t mind getting a rack Hilbish too, though.
Can’t beat the original 🤘🏻
I've been watching with extreme interest, and totally disappointed at the lack of substantial info/demos etc. They are really botching it. If you do the math on their preorders, they maybe sold 60 amps. I guess that's why they need the wefunder. I saw someone on their facebook page say something about the shipping date now slipping to late March. Man, they were JUST telling people the other day they were shipping this month. I refuse to place an order unless I see an independent review that does a teardown and analysis.
Got an email today advertising selling shares in the company at $100 each. Essentially a Kickstarter. Promising work being put into Model Ts etc and the shares maybe increasing in value.
The other thing that's funny is the pics of Hendrix using Sunns. He got them either as a rented backline or were gifted them. He used them for one small tour and never again because he hated them haha.
Sounds like a ScamO))) to me . I wouldn’t trust that at all lol . That tells me they are broke . I’ve never heard about another company doing this .
Yeah the whole Hendrix thing is pretty funny . When I think of him I think of 2 things Marshall’s and Stratocasters .
Also, Conrad said Sunn stopped providing his backline because he was putting his guitar through the cabs so often.
I could bang on for ages about this, but the short version of my thoughts is this:
These bozos have bought the brand and the schematics but simply don't have resources and economies of scale to build a value-for-money product, and by the looks of things don't have the cash to build anything at all.
$1000 bucks for a Beta Lead is completely absurd: you can buy an original one and have it professionally recapped for significantly less than that and end up with a far more desirable amp. You could also buy something like a Peavey Century or an HH IC100 and get to a similar place for way less even than that. If you're desperate for a new beta lead there are clones available for something like $600 to your door (still too much IMO, but you can buy one and play it days later). Nobody is going to preorder one of these. If they'd pitched it to compete with the Orange Super Crush 100 then they'd be inundated, but only big companies manufacturing in volume can produce a quality product for $400 (this is why 'boutique' pedal builders charge $200 for a basic fuzz based on a 60 year-old circuit when Behringer can do it for $40. Economies of scale).
The one and only model they could justify charging over $1000 for is the Model T. Why on Earth they didn't plan to launch that first God alone knows. Nobody is going to pay $1000 shipped for a solid state amp that doesn't even exist yet.
Yea, sad it turned out this way, could have been awesome.
100%
April 13th, still waiting for my Beta Lead... Second hand originals are quite rare in Europe so I was stoked to get my hands on a brand new one. I'm starting to regret this... Last news from them said they'd ship by March 18th after some delay, but I'm still waiting.
Zero communication on their part, you basically have to spam email them for some infos, they never care to come up front and give their customers some update.
Anyone else in this situation ?
I'm kinda considering asking for a refund
I’m sorry to hear that Thomas . At this point I would have asked for my refund a long time ago . This company obviously doesn’t care about customer service or anything .
@@FuzzedDrones Just asked for a refund and waiting for their reply. Hopefully I can put this behind me.. What a disappointment. How can they expect to sell their amplifiers working like this ?
And even if they do ship one day, I don't even want to imagine how they handle repairs and warranties.
Steer clear from these guys
I got my beta lead. Have you not?
@@breaths_band that's awesome you finally received yours ! Are you based in Europe ? I'm still waiting for mine and they haven't replied to a single of my emails since march... So I'm still quite worried tbh
Got my new beta lead yesterday and it’s killer. I posted an iPhone video of me jamming on it last night on my channel. Now everyone can stop with the ‘Scam O)))’ nonsense, it’s real 😂
Cool, you got yours? I put out an order a few weeks ago on the preamp.
I preordered one at the end of last year. Not shipped yet.
Edit (November 13.2024): still not shipped and they are not even answering my mails
Feels like I’m being scammed
Same here. I've asked for a refund and they simply wont answer either on messenger or email.
Have you been able to contact them ?
Tbh I'd rather buy a Hilbish Design Beta amp, instead of a Sunn Betalead.
I think a lot of people are feeling the same way 🙌🏻.
Thing is hilbish is a ss amp at the price of a tube amp
@@saturnskull1242 I prefer SS amps to tube amps. And if you want a Betalead I'd go with Hilbish. The new Sunn Amplification smells a lot like a scam.
@@rk28984 yeah man I like ss amps too, but that doesn't justify this inflated price imho
OMG TOP BUSINESS ADVICE
Sure
I am one of the people who pre ordered a beta bass. I sent them an email asking beforehand what the turnaround was on March 28th 2024. They told me that they were shipping then on a first come first serve basis. I pulled the trigger and got an estimated ship date of April 8th. It is now May 28th and I still do not have an amp. I have sent them multiple emails with no response. They also wont respond on social media. I am a patient person. I gave them weeks before I started trying to contact them. But after this long I am starting to think I may be screwed out of 799.00.
Is there anyone out there that has ordered one and received it? I see their Twitter posts that show them being assembled and tested but that's about it.
I’m sorry you have to deal with this . I’ve been seeing a lot of people ask online when they are shipping . Then they don’t get a or they reply back by saying please email us .
You are not the first person who has said something like this . But it’s just really unfortunate that anyone has to deal with this . Please keep us updated!
@@FuzzedDrones The brand name will never recover if things go that bad.
Got my beta lead, they said bass ships next so should be shipping now or soon.
@@breaths_band I filed a case with PayPal and finally responded and said I should be getting tracking soon. I am patient but when I seen other people having the same concern I got nervous becuse they originally have me estimated ship date of early April.
@@breaths_band more importantly. How does it sound?
Not the Sunn comeback I was expecting. Too many promises, zero results for now. That added with the high prices, the lack of Model T...
You said it perfectly .
Sunn shipping amps worse than Electric Amps USA was not on my 2024 bingo card.
Oh man now that’s bad 😂
I lost 4k from those shenanigans. It taught me a major lesson about boutique/bespoke music gear.
@@bobbyblair6862 wait what ??
@FuzzedDrones I paid 4k for a huge rig from Electric in the early 2000's and received nothing.
Fuuuuuuuu*k that sucks dude!
Been seeing pop ups on Edge from Sunn looking for investors.
🤣 they are hilarious .
Hope they iron this out. I'm not a Sun guy but I feel for the peeps who Ordered and are kinda just waitin' around.
I dont think these amps will ever see the light of day.
I think they eventually will because they have to fulfill the ones they sold already . But I don’t think it will be anytime soon . This whole relaunch has just been disappointing.
@@FuzzedDrones I guess it will be a story like Boult guitars a few years ago. They will just disappear with the money.
@@rk28984or with ELECTRIC amps, the Matamp clones
I sent them an email to see if they ship internationally before I dropped the $800 for a Beta. Absolute radio silence from Sunn. It's not looking well. The fact that they are not shipping internationally coupled with their plain stupid choice of the 100S & 200S as their tube amps rather than a model T tells me this company has no money, staff or any idea who their audience is. Not catering to the Doom crowd is akin to shooting yourself in the foot with your own gun.
This is the truth ^
I was ready to preorder a PL20 but wanted to know when it would ship so i sent them an email. Never heard back.
Held off. I think that was the right decision.
It was probably a blessing in disguise. It just blows my mind how they’re not getting back to people . That are interested in buying there products .
My favorite part is how they instantly delete all the Facebook comments of people presenting very valid complaints.
I was a guinea pig and bought a beta lead, and as everyone else all I've heard was "late February" 2 more days....
Today’s the day hopefully you get that confirmation that your beta shipped !
@FuzzedDrones I certainly hope so, or it's back to the old peavey, haha
Update! They have pushed back shipping date by a month, sunns of bitches
@@beastialpiglord3614 man that sucks . Did they say why ? Also did they reach out to you to let you know . Or did you have to contact them to get an update .
@FuzzedDrones neither, some dude who commented on their post said he was told another month. I almost don't even want one because this company fucking sucks. Jk I want one
Weird timing I was just wondering WTF happened to these reissues.
So.. about that line6 model T comparison video.. when is that happening!??
M .O .O .N, that spells model T
I will start production on that video next Monday !
@@FuzzedDronesreally looking forward to that vid. I’ve been very happy with the way the Line 6 emulated the Model T
I used the Helix Sunn Model T model for my entire new album (along with various fuzz pedals in the FX loops of course). I don’t have the amp to compare it to, but love the amp model.
@@breaths_band I’m actually starting a comparison video this week on that 😙
Awesome, can’t wait to see that
SCAMO)))
Just sad.
Agreed !
Yes... no soundclips, no pics. Just a pics from 60s and 70s. Who really cares about this? It's nice, it is Conrad's legacy but it is 2024 and we all are waiting for something else. I don't know.
Its weird for real, if they dont start producing some product soon they will for sure be doomed to fail,i still think the 200s as a flagship was completely retarded. If it where me beta,model T even if it was a 50 watt,and a new design would have been my launch and i would have had at least some ready to go as well as flooding with demos and such
Do we even know these reissues are the real deal? How much you want to bed they pulled a Gibson Falcon and are just emulating the vintage circuit with cheap, crappy parts?
We have no idea lol . They haven’t released anything on these since announcing them 6 months ago . I have a feeling they’re not even built yet .
It's a price gouging money grab. Like anything nostalgic or classic these days. Friggin ridiculous.
Agreed 🙌🏻
lmao $799 for a beta lead? I guess no one told them it's still easy to find old MIM beta leads/concert leads/etc for next to nothing
Good luck fixing one when the transistors go out. Unobtainium
Just laughably botched. They have two models with a massive following already designed for them. Slap the logo on them, ship em out and be done by GOD
Who knows what they are thinking 💭
Just not very good marketing.
honestly, who cares?
Honestly, not you .
@@FuzzedDrones first world problems. honestly.