i was cheater some days and i know whats cheaters look like first case was 100%walling with triger keep it in mine that most of overwatch r in noprime and full of low ranks
Lmao that First guy is cheating like hell, u See by every sniper shot his aim Assisi and also how he Self positioned his Self vs the opponents. As an ex cheater i can Tell you that as a fact lmao
@@Judas390 yes that is a bad example of calling out his hack because he can see and hear that one, but you will notice 3:28 he holds a spot with a hack called "trigger aim" if enemy passes from his crosshair he will automatically shoot, that's why he can instantly shoot people with inhuman reaction because he knows they are coming from there and holds down the trigger aim, I know this because I hack too. When I hack I never hold such angles, I always set cross hair in wide spaces even though without hack I'd have faster reaction, I let people see me first before I hold down trigger aim and flick crosshair to their body or head if they are jiggle peeking or if they wide peek they will run into cross hair in like 200ms and die, that way you can never be caught, but then again I have reached LE without hack so my aim is still better than most hackers. Still some people argued how a hacker never gets caught off guard, and how after killing two at A site he just decides to back up instead of attempting to see CT further because he already knows someone is in Palace and if he peeks him too he will be caught, so he just backs, even if he is not trying to kill him or check him, he can see that through walls. Honestly, such hackers are impossible to catch, just like me :D, I avoid getting kills to not get really really high on scoreboard, play for information for the team with my walls after I die by killing 1 or none, and once in a while clutch a crucial round with 3k or 2k or even 4k(for instance winning a pistol round almost guarantees next few would be easy for your team), never cross beyond 25-30 kills unless one of my ally is doing really good, if I have to do that I just allow the enemy to win, because the matchmaker tests hackers too. So unlike a normal hacker who goes on a 20 win streak and ranks up every 2 days, I win 4-5 matches before losing one and rank myself up in 5 days.
I already see wh and aimlock that actually don't have that low of a fov, quite blatant for me, he doesn't jiggle peek, never check his flank or anywhere that enemies could have rotated to or approach from, never miss his shots with the exceptions of when he is still running or when the target is behind cover. For the first one, he was never really caught off guard but failed to take advantage of his cheats fully and notice that he ''never checks the wrong places'' the time when he decided to bail on A site while the guy was behind tribox was due to the enemy watching site from palace, someone who isn't cheating wouldn't hesitate to try spamming the site when you got a awp or ak to get feedback on if there's someone hiding there.
Not gonna lie man, I've taken plenty a questionable shots playing compi, hell I've even died from some questionable one taps, just makes me wonder if I'm gonna get banned because of that one lucky shot
I have about 6k hours in the game now, and yesterday I had a showerthought: I wonder, if you made a collage of every fishy shot or play I, or any decent player with about as much time in game, ever pulled off if it would make for a 30 minute to 1hour video.
@@marcusbergman6116the thing is, it's hard to believe someone is just good when they hit 5-10 great shots in the same game. I wish I could just congratulate the opponent on a nice shot, but it's always so hard to trust. But I've hit a some crazy shots and wallbangs on csgo I wish I had recorded, and my opponent could've thought I had been hacking.
First guy seems pretty sus due to the fact that every shot hit besides the ones where the enemy was behind a wall. He also had horrible cross-hair placement making me believe he is also triggerbotting. You can also tell from how the suspect only used awps , scouts and deagles primarly. While also holding tight angles and hitting the enemy everytime they were in his crosshair no matter how tight the pixel angle was.
Yeah, the first case was a nasty one. When I was a head admin on some pub 1.6 servers back in the day. I overturned some bans made for similar quality of evidence. I mean it's not that I didn't agree they were cheating, I was almost sure of it. But was I completely sure? No. Same with this guy. I think he probably was wallhacking. But, would I say I was completely sure he was? No. Not at all, and that's the problem. He's downright shady though. We had a system called watchlist, where it would announce to admins when the steam ID joined one of our servers, giving the admins a chance to get more evidence. I'd generally reverse a ban and add them to the watchlist.. 8/10 times they were dumb enough to come back and cheat some more and properly incriminate themselves.
@@PixelGM no he isn't 100%, and I agree I rather let a possible hacker let go than convict an innocent. People like pixel make me scared of false bans in overwatch, since they think they know everything.
PixelGM he is definately wallhacking, he has perfect timings every time. Check the round where the guy was on underpass, he perfecly followed him to shoot him if he jumps
I think you can already call it 100% if you just watch his reaction times in multiple shots and then the verdict just strengthens when you see other gameplay factors like having super bad crosshairplacement 80% of the time, but still getting the right angles where enemies are 100% the time. This is a major issue in Overwatch, If you even remotely try to hide your hack ppl are too afraid to give the ban. This was even one of the clearest of cases, not a hard one.
It's funny how the first always just aimed at places where the enemies were coming from . He always seemed to have a perfect idea for where enemies are . And I'm pretty certain hes is walling , that's just not how a good player would play . Also bcoz they are up 15:4 and he is still trying so hard that bcoz he is trying to hide his walls .
2:32 was maybe a call, maybe he realized "oh shit my teammates dont cover short" do you never aim where you expect enemies to come from? I agree with tibaw, it is likely he cheated but not evident beyond reasonable doubt 4:50 is a lot more damning in my opinion.
Look at 4:50 He starts tracking the guy even before scoping in, before the enemy is visible. His aim is synced to the enemys movement in stead of predicting the right side peek and just aiming at the angle directly. Pretty experienced player with at least wallhacks. Crosshair placement is also very lazy at times, which is common with wallhackers.
@@mercsmoderatenattype5020 he did a decent job, I agree you can't trace someone so well all the time, but that one time isn't enough evidence for me, even though after the entire OW I can say I 100% believe he was in fact cheating
@@mercsmoderatenattype5020 Where do you see tracking in 4:50-4:53, you might be silvers or something , if his teemate just told him is one site, where do you want him to watch? Apps? Market? Cat?
@@mercsmoderatenattype5020 you are so pathetic 😂😂😂, when you are gonna grow up and learn to play fps at high level contact me Ohh, sorry, you are just playing "bullet force", you don't know how cs work
1:13 1:26 Watch in 0.25x Speed. Dude seriously he was just locking into the targets and manually hitting once the Crosshair gets placed on them (a lot quicker). Triggerbot or Manual triggerbot. 4:50 The CT would've came from left or right side. But this bastard was tracing his movements and was Ready for him Definitely a waller and aim assistance. And an aware gameplay to outsmart and confuse the overwatch.
That's a common demobug my dude. Check your own 32tick demo's. you'll be doing the same thing. The dude is walling for sure. Maybe even a small fov aimlock, or something else that helps his aim. That one deag on the guy connector, his crosshair wasn't ever on.
4:51 I usually try to trust my team mates to have the area they're watching, his team mate was was in deep enough left that he wouldn't need to watch left, so he was holding right, I also usually don't break out towards a surprise kill, I back out and try to retreat a little just in case someone is close behind the guy I took out, IMHO I wouldn't even give that bit a second thought
The first one without a doubt was a wallhacker. 2:12(the enemy was kinda near by where the shot had been taken the place) 2:30(the enemy was walking with the shift and he followed him through the wall) 2:37(he unnaturally stopped moving to take some shots and tried to prove his not suspicious) 2:54(there's no way he could take a shot to the head like here, some kind of aim) 3:32(it's actually impossible to make a clear shot through a little space between the boxes and the wall while going through that space, it is like a blink) and etc.
2:12 he took the bomb do he knew kinda where he was 2:30 someone got into b so he had to check short for more 2:37 he was shift walking he didnt stop 2:54 crosshair placement 3:30 good reaction time
5:17 Why would he completely ignore stairs? He had no info the ct jumped down. I knew he was cheating by the way he perfectly/carelessly moves around the enemies possible line of sight, but that made it evident beyond a reasonable doubt. 3:51 wtf is he doing? looking at the ground? looking at the wall? cool dude.
I usually just play like cheater (while im not one infact) I usually just go in YOLOing without checking shit. And get some easy kills.. Also u can look at walls to have way to look at both areas same time.
the issue with the way the first guy hit the venthop is the fact that he straight up doesnt know how to airstrafe like for the entire case lol, his movement actually hurts my brain
imo, the first case was a trigger bot. He wasn't playing like he had walls, but his reaction times were insane. he could've been using soft aim as well, but his flicks didn't seem artificial enough to be convicted.
Some of his shots seemed pretty normal reaction time, while so e others seemed REALLY quick, liek whe the guy was crossing from ct to triple and he was holding from sandwich with a scout.
1:27 crosshair position, if u are in a 1 vs 1 coming from window to jg to A site cleary u dont go with the awp pointing to the ground, he have wh and i dont even see the rest of the case
First dude sure does always know where to look & hits every push he's watching. Within the first 2 minutes there were multiple sus spots that looked like he was centering someone through a wall. I wouldnt be surprised one of his teammates reported him lol
I can prove that the first guys is not hacking. At 1:07 he looked at B from connector because he new that the t was at the bottom so it would take some time to get to him. So he looks at B to see if their flanking from B. Once he gets the kill, hears a t switching guns and running at him so he looks at cat and gets that kill.
1:27 put the speed at 0.25 guy was aiming the wall but got the shot + as a wall hacker 1st guy clearly a wall user as well, so i think wall users should do overwatch not only legit players cause they catch even the good wallers, legits not cause they think guy is just good. So u made a mistake not voteing for evidence in both aim+wall .
First case: Trigger-bot and walls which he/she tries to hide. Caught a few things 2 rounds in, including pre-shots with awp and some noticeable crosshair twitches/replacements.. easy case imo. Done OW cases since 2 years back. I'd re-watch it if you felt some doubt and as if you saw something shady, often helps making a last call.
The second case is the classic example of someone who thinks they know counter strike so they think they're getting away with cheating but in reality, they don't know counter strike because all they've ever done is cheat.
The first guy used triggerbot u can spot it as he switched from awp to knife slowly because he didnt shoot by himself so took quite a little bit time to connect with that.
Every time I think it could be cool if I showed up in one of your vids, I suddenly think 'shizz'. I don't hack but then everyone would see my wide peeks and silverstrat rushes down mid Inferno with an mp7 and a smoke
First guy had walls and triggerbot. He had horrible positioning crosshair placement and map knowledge but he was instantly killing everyone and knew where they were coming from with perfect timing
Yea, he had aim assist, flicking doesnt work that way. you dont always end up on the center of their body, most time my flicks end past the person, i just shoot when it was over them
Didn't you see there were shots he missed with an awp. It's not purely 100 percent. If you've been practicing awping. You try your best to minimize that mistake of overextending from the body. It's hard, but it can be done w practice.
@@philcaz9039 Its not a mistake, there is just no actual point to stopping at his body, for the fastest flick, you want to move your mouse in his direction as fast as possible, and simple click when you see your cursor is over him, to stop on his body, you have to slow down your flick, and thus, your shot will be slower. if you stop in his middle, your shot will be quite a bit slower than people who overextend. I was global elite and an awp main for my team, Im not just talking randomly.
1st case is clearly vision assistance. For instance that hold on B-site. He kills 1 with the bomb, and there might be more terrorist, but the suspect already goes somewhere else. We know that there are no terrorists in apps, but the suspect should not. Then there is a terrorist picking up the bomb and walking back, and the suspect seem to follow him and walking away from B site. When the terrorist with bomb decides to go back to B-site, the suspect returns to B-site. The timings of these rotation decisions are just to coincidental to be legit.
2:55 clear aim-lock, his crosshair is not on the enemies head before or after the shot and he shoots exactly when the guys head is visible on the screen. For me that is definetly evidence beyond reasonable doubt.
Your an idiot. One kill is almost never evidence beyond reasonable doubt, unless the player is spinning or shooting players through walls that aren’t bang able.
Wow, hes definitely aim locking but then again... At least we actually have a hacker that knows how to hide it After looking at the comments, cant really blame these people. Most people haven't played level 5 faceit and above. When u play against those players u feel like everyone is hacking sometimes
I dunno. I think the first one is shady, but legit. A lot of his questionables (even the 4 min window jumper) had his teammate dying or watching that angle for him. And the rest of the time could just be really good game sense. And his constant checking of angles shows him thinking what the next move was gonna be.
1:25 Good enough to hear EXACTLY where the enemy is coming from and do a Bhop into window, but not good enough to aim toward A site in that situation? Just aiming at the ground "oblivious" to the enemy.
4:51 when the ct on b site kills his teammate he keeps noscope but the crosshair is lined with enemy feet until he jump from the box then scope right into the spot ct is jumping? LMAOOOO
the first guy, right towards the end i 10000 percent think was walling, because: sure the first kill in the final clip *of suspect one* was a pretty normal thing, but suspect was very agressive which was uncharacteristic, and thats after looking in the "rough direction" of the rest of the enemy team. he also knew the guy was above on the scaffolding as if by memory, and then *heres the juicy part* pulled out his knife and took off towards what would normally be a blind corner because he KNEW the rest of the enemy team was on the other site. nobody that good would run towards connector that fast after making so much noise unless they knew it was clear.
Hi prophet can you please make a video on picking mid better on D2. I know it's hard to get reflexes like yours but still general tips and tricks on it. thanks in advance
@@vonrhyanpunzalan5446 the fastest human reaction time is 100 milliseconds, you think this guy can do 50? Get your head out of your ass kid. Plus the angle he was holding only revealed a small gap lmfao, watch it yourself
1st Case is 100% Walling. His movement is shit, and when he goes B Halls and drops drop he ducks when the guy is peaking window. Give me a break. He is not blat but deff uses it. His awareness doesn't match his cross hair placement among other things. 5:30, Comes A ramp Spots stairs and then without seeing knows the guy drops down toward A side. No fucking way. There is no one else around to even pass that info for him. Then the guy balcony above him as well. He is way to aware. He was walling. Your global and if you don't see this bro.. We need to talk
About that first case in mirage. I really don't think he had any cheat jump script. I've watched a lot of csgo mirage tutorials for perfect movements and I can do that. Does that make me a silver 5 cheater??
idk why there is people claiming that the first guy is blatantly cheating, I didn't see anything blatant, he is most likely smurfing on low ranks. At 2:30 he should have heard the plant if I'm not mistaken, and people usually fake plant at low ranks just for 1 kill, it was just game sense. Just watch my video called "Overwatch banned highlight#1" and people would probably think I was cheating but it is because people at that rank literally don't react to anything you do. They keep playing the same way throughout the whole game and never change a thing in their gameplay, basically, they don't adapt so predicting them becomes easier as the game progresses, since they let you control the pace of the game.
The hop into snipers isn't all that hard, im basically only just starting to focus on movement and I've hit it a few times in competitive matches myself. Also it isn't that much more risky than just normally crouching through so its worth it to try the hop decently often, especially when warmed up. Bhopping is much easier than the average player believes it is, and, even if it isn't as consistent as I would like, hitting 4+ hops isn't only something a cheater can do.
I completely agree, if you know how to bhop you can judge how good their bhop vs their general movement is and then you can tell if they are scripting, if they have bad movement but incredible bhops then it is more likely to be scripts as often you learn general movement at the same rate you learn to bhop.
@@Nelex5000 5:14 no info about drop, always aiming at the corner where he should be without checking others, crosshair placement is shit... easy case he's a cheater, and that's probably you lol
@@Paketaqi I wasn't. I do what you're supposed to do in overwatch, convict someone if you are 100% sure they're cheating. Apparently I was very convinced he wasn't cheating so I made those comments.
The 1st guy was probably walling but it's correct decision as it's insufficient evidence. It has to be quite obvious and consistent to give "evidence beyond reasonable doubt ". Well done.
Mosh Mage yeah but the rest of the guys movements were kinda garbo. I know kids that hit that hop all day everyday but they are also well rounded in all other forms of movement and hops.
Just the way he was aiming around slowly and how his crosshair was sometimes on the ground, I feel like the first case was a cheater but it certainly wasn't 'evident beyond reasonable doubt'.
The window hop isn't that hard, if you train it in offline and youre already decent in movement, you can learn to do it consistently-ish in a single day
Last guy would have been reported for aim if it was me doing the case. Probably also had walls because of that scout shot he hit through the gap between tri box and the wall looking
The hop into the window room should not be reported unless all other movement is trash. Honestly I thought the guy didn’t have very good movement so it was a little fishy, but I know people that can hit that hop all day.
Yeah reminds me of a russian I played against his sens was so high he once confused himself, but still hit everysingle shot, was aggressive af and was always confident
rack in the screen that shows you damage taken and given, if you don’t skip the screen you keep watching your dead body and can see enemy positions/rotations
@@DavidDragon-zx9jd ?? There’s a deathcam that reports your damage and their damage and often you can make rotation calls based off the movements you see on it especially on CT side or as a T lurk
The window bhop on mirage can't really be done with external assistance. It's more about timing of the first jump then spamming jump once you're in the window. A script can't make you land it.
That first guy was walling like crazy. :D Second guy the same... wh, that aim and ofc bhops lol. Third is VERY fishy and i think he is walling also. This year will be FULL of hackers. :D
When you don't know if about a call, you should watch it again without the player outlines on, for more clarity on what people see
A lot of the great shots that the first guy made are pretty normal, and just look weird because demos are 32 tick, gotta keep that in mind
Yeah he has a good reaction time, but what really convinced me nearly immediately was the sniper's nest bhop. You have to be REALLY good to hit that.
i was cheater some days and i know whats cheaters look like first case was 100%walling with triger keep it in mine that most of overwatch r in noprime and full of low ranks
Lmao that First guy is cheating like hell, u See by every sniper shot his aim Assisi and also how he Self positioned his Self vs the opponents. As an ex cheater i can Tell you that as a fact lmao
@@ghostx9555 first guy just had good gamesense, the palace thing he saw the guy's shadow.
@@bigrob0555 my guy i have about 150 hours in bhop servers and i cant hit the snipers nest bhop with cheats, that bhop relies on skill entirely
16:37 The suspect struggles to climb on the boxes then tries to pick up a graffiti gun...
😂
Lol
Cymatic that proves he’s hacking by itself lol
Lol
nice one, this proves cheaters are all retarded hahaha
He Always knew perfectly where the guys would come without checking other spots practically, 5:18 how did he know the guy dropped?
Holding long on cobble, and pros hear the sound from drop, longer distance
He legit just saw him
@@Judas390 yes that is a bad example of calling out his hack because he can see and hear that one, but you will notice 3:28 he holds a spot with a hack called "trigger aim" if enemy passes from his crosshair he will automatically shoot, that's why he can instantly shoot people with inhuman reaction because he knows they are coming from there and holds down the trigger aim, I know this because I hack too. When I hack I never hold such angles, I always set cross hair in wide spaces even though without hack I'd have faster reaction, I let people see me first before I hold down trigger aim and flick crosshair to their body or head if they are jiggle peeking or if they wide peek they will run into cross hair in like 200ms and die, that way you can never be caught, but then again I have reached LE without hack so my aim is still better than most hackers.
Still some people argued how a hacker never gets caught off guard, and how after killing two at A site he just decides to back up instead of attempting to see CT further because he already knows someone is in Palace and if he peeks him too he will be caught, so he just backs, even if he is not trying to kill him or check him, he can see that through walls. Honestly, such hackers are impossible to catch, just like me :D, I avoid getting kills to not get really really high on scoreboard, play for information for the team with my walls after I die by killing 1 or none, and once in a while clutch a crucial round with 3k or 2k or even 4k(for instance winning a pistol round almost guarantees next few would be easy for your team), never cross beyond 25-30 kills unless one of my ally is doing really good, if I have to do that I just allow the enemy to win, because the matchmaker tests hackers too. So unlike a normal hacker who goes on a 20 win streak and ranks up every 2 days, I win 4-5 matches before losing one and rank myself up in 5 days.
@@devvasudwivedi2051 First i never said he wasn't walling or aiming. That's it, you don't have to make a whole fucking 500 word essay.
He literally saw the guy drop...
I already see wh and aimlock that actually don't have that low of a fov, quite blatant for me, he doesn't jiggle peek, never check his flank or anywhere that enemies could have rotated to or approach from, never miss his shots with the exceptions of when he is still running or when the target is behind cover. For the first one, he was never really caught off guard but failed to take advantage of his cheats fully and notice that he ''never checks the wrong places'' the time when he decided to bail on A site while the guy was behind tribox was due to the enemy watching site from palace, someone who isn't cheating wouldn't hesitate to try spamming the site when you got a awp or ak to get feedback on if there's someone hiding there.
Not gonna lie man, I've taken plenty a questionable shots playing compi, hell I've even died from some questionable one taps, just makes me wonder if I'm gonna get banned because of that one lucky shot
I have about 6k hours in the game now, and yesterday I had a showerthought: I wonder, if you made a collage of every fishy shot or play I, or any decent player with about as much time in game, ever pulled off if it would make for a 30 minute to 1hour video.
@@marcusbergman6116the thing is, it's hard to believe someone is just good when they hit 5-10 great shots in the same game. I wish I could just congratulate the opponent on a nice shot, but it's always so hard to trust. But I've hit a some crazy shots and wallbangs on csgo I wish I had recorded, and my opponent could've thought I had been hacking.
First guy seems pretty sus due to the fact that every shot hit besides the ones where the enemy was behind a wall. He also had horrible cross-hair placement making me believe he is also triggerbotting. You can also tell from how the suspect only used awps , scouts and deagles primarly. While also holding tight angles and hitting the enemy everytime they were in his crosshair no matter how tight the pixel angle was.
Yeah, the first case was a nasty one. When I was a head admin on some pub 1.6 servers back in the day. I overturned some bans made for similar quality of evidence. I mean it's not that I didn't agree they were cheating, I was almost sure of it. But was I completely sure? No. Same with this guy. I think he probably was wallhacking. But, would I say I was completely sure he was? No. Not at all, and that's the problem. He's downright shady though.
We had a system called watchlist, where it would announce to admins when the steam ID joined one of our servers, giving the admins a chance to get more evidence. I'd generally reverse a ban and add them to the watchlist.. 8/10 times they were dumb enough to come back and cheat some more and properly incriminate themselves.
He's a 💯 hacker lol
@@PixelGM no he isn't 100%, and I agree I rather let a possible hacker let go than convict an innocent. People like pixel make me scared of false bans in overwatch, since they think they know everything.
@@nihaad344 yeah ik it's not 💯, but it's fishy af, since every1 is cheating in cs go loo
PixelGM he is definately wallhacking, he has perfect timings every time. Check the round where the guy was on underpass, he perfecly followed him to shoot him if he jumps
I think you can already call it 100% if you just watch his reaction times in multiple shots and then the verdict just strengthens when you see other gameplay factors like having super bad crosshairplacement 80% of the time, but still getting the right angles where enemies are 100% the time.
This is a major issue in Overwatch, If you even remotely try to hide your hack ppl are too afraid to give the ban. This was even one of the clearest of cases, not a hard one.
It's funny how the first always just aimed at places where the enemies were coming from . He always seemed to have a perfect idea for where enemies are . And I'm pretty certain hes is walling , that's just not how a good player would play .
Also bcoz they are up 15:4 and he is still trying so hard that bcoz he is trying to hide his walls .
To me it seemed he had walls + silent aim, hence the use of scout and AWP
2:32, T was coming with shift, there is no way that he could hear him. Definetly he is walling.
2:32 was maybe a call, maybe he realized "oh shit my teammates dont cover short"
do you never aim where you expect enemies to come from?
I agree with tibaw, it is likely he cheated but not evident beyond reasonable doubt
4:50 is a lot more damning in my opinion.
@@Apokalypse456 his whole gameplay was like that . He just perfectly predicts where the enemies would come from 99% of times
@@Apokalypse456 rly? Exactly when enemy could appear on his monitor? Nope
Look at 4:50
He starts tracking the guy even before scoping in, before the enemy is visible. His aim is synced to the enemys movement in stead of predicting the right side peek and just aiming at the angle directly. Pretty experienced player with at least wallhacks. Crosshair placement is also very lazy at times, which is common with wallhackers.
It can be callouts , but one doesn't simply track a player like that even with callouts , he did a good job hiding his cheat .
@@mercsmoderatenattype5020 he did a decent job, I agree you can't trace someone so well all the time, but that one time isn't enough evidence for me, even though after the entire OW I can say I 100% believe he was in fact cheating
@@mercsmoderatenattype5020 Where do you see tracking in 4:50-4:53, you might be silvers or something , if his teemate just told him is one site, where do you want him to watch? Apps? Market? Cat?
@@KillzoOfficial omg killzo are you gonna cry ?
@@mercsmoderatenattype5020 you are so pathetic 😂😂😂, when you are gonna grow up and learn to play fps at high level contact me
Ohh, sorry, you are just playing "bullet force", you don't know how cs work
1:13
1:26
Watch in 0.25x Speed. Dude seriously he was just locking into the targets and manually hitting once the Crosshair gets placed on them (a lot quicker).
Triggerbot or Manual triggerbot.
4:50 The CT would've came from left or right side. But this bastard was tracing his movements and was Ready for him
Definitely a waller and aim assistance. And an aware gameplay to outsmart and confuse the overwatch.
It's not a triggerbot . The demos are 16 tick . What a noob
@@aaalllabcd prolly a triggerbot
That's not really accurate. Could definitely do that legit. That one where he was on the box though was 100% blatant.
Same at 1:54 on 1/4 speed. Terrorist jumps over so his angle is only leg height. The aimlock snaps to the body.
4:50 omg u are right, just look x0.25 he moved crosshair right side when ct was in air, 100% wh or aim bot
2:32 he knew the enemy was peaking so he went towards door
Yup
yup, guy was so bad at hiding his wallhack, its a shame there are ppl who think this blatant cheater is innocent
smithwick1710 what are you talking about? Must not be very good if you think he cheating
or he just thought it s not a good idea to peak in the same place again?
1st case,rewatch it again,lower the speed on the playback,when ever the suspect is using an awp he zooms out before shooting
That's a common demobug my dude. Check your own 32tick demo's. you'll be doing the same thing.
The dude is walling for sure. Maybe even a small fov aimlock, or something else that helps his aim. That one deag on the guy connector, his crosshair wasn't ever on.
@@TheRealPureOwnage hade no ideas,and havent nothiced so far,thanks for the info :)
Honestly I think the first dude was triggerboting with walls, 3:30 this reaction is unreal
Yep
@Do You lift br0? well im actually lem so..
@MALEK001 001 yes, and this guy was consistent
The suspect: hits one b-hop. Timeisbutawindow: might be using a script
KatL When the dude always hits the first bhop everytime, he is 100% using scripts or smth
Atleast he's not like Jericho xD
my dude said if you hit the vent jump your most likely cheating
@@meownowa3922 what if you only bhop once that game and hit one single bhop? Guess it's ban time!
@@sofJant I've never seen a video where he bans someone from 1 bhop
4:51
I usually try to trust my team mates to have the area they're watching, his team mate was was in deep enough left that he wouldn't need to watch left, so he was holding right, I also usually don't break out towards a surprise kill, I back out and try to retreat a little just in case someone is close behind the guy I took out, IMHO I wouldn't even give that bit a second thought
I don’t like how he used to start the overwatch resolution from griefing to vision assistance
4:51 easy wallhack, crosshair moves as soon as enemy starts moving behind the wall
100%
Maybe there is a minimap and sound in this game, mr. catching cheaters expert.
Could be luck, teammate calling out, listening, etc. that definitely wasn’t a sure sign that he was walling.
Dude the first guy was aimlocking and wallhacking but playin it off really good. However u could see the aim lock when he used the AK.
You can see afterlocks with the Awp.
The first one without a doubt was a wallhacker. 2:12(the enemy was kinda near by where the shot had been taken the place) 2:30(the enemy was walking with the shift and he followed him through the wall) 2:37(he unnaturally stopped moving to take some shots and tried to prove his not suspicious) 2:54(there's no way he could take a shot to the head like here, some kind of aim) 3:32(it's actually impossible to make a clear shot through a little space between the boxes and the wall while going through that space, it is like a blink) and etc.
He wasn't cheating
2:12 he took the bomb do he knew kinda where he was 2:30 someone got into b so he had to check short for more 2:37 he was shift walking he didnt stop 2:54 crosshair placement 3:30 good reaction time
I'd say 2:54 is cheating because he's still moving or insane instant counter strafe (which could be external).
Watch the first three shots in SloMo... Thats honestly a damn high FOV
Aeroniac slomo can be deceptive and it looks more like locking additionally over watch is on 32 tick servers which makes it look more jittery
Ya 32 tick can't be trusted
5:17 Why would he completely ignore stairs? He had no info the ct jumped down. I knew he was cheating by the way he perfectly/carelessly moves around the enemies possible line of sight, but that made it evident beyond a reasonable doubt. 3:51 wtf is he doing? looking at the ground? looking at the wall? cool dude.
But it still could be someone with a lack of game knowledge who is lucky.
darty but if you look at how fast he reacts every time someone peeked its insane and as Juan said his movements where careless
I usually just play like cheater (while im not one infact) I usually just go in YOLOing without checking shit. And get some easy kills.. Also u can look at walls to have way to look at both areas same time.
That vent hop is easy when you use scroll wheel for jumping,i get it like 4-5 times out of 10,is all about know when to jump and when to crouch
the issue with the way the first guy hit the venthop is the fact that he straight up doesnt know how to airstrafe like for the entire case lol, his movement actually hurts my brain
Yeah. The only way to get through it quickly is to jump and crouch right. Creeping through is a good way to get killed.
@@raised_OOT yeah, that's pretty true
imo, the first case was a trigger bot. He wasn't playing like he had walls, but his reaction times were insane. he could've been using soft aim as well, but his flicks didn't seem artificial enough to be convicted.
Some of his shots seemed pretty normal reaction time, while so e others seemed REALLY quick, liek whe the guy was crossing from ct to triple and he was holding from sandwich with a scout.
1:27 crosshair position, if u are in a 1 vs 1 coming from window to jg to A site cleary u dont go with the awp pointing to the ground, he have wh and i dont even see the rest of the case
@大哥哥Eric The suspect must be silver.
First dude sure does always know where to look & hits every push he's watching. Within the first 2 minutes there were multiple sus spots that looked like he was centering someone through a wall. I wouldnt be surprised one of his teammates reported him lol
4:47
"Now making his way over to the A site"
*proceeds to enter b site*
I can prove that the first guys is not hacking. At 1:07 he looked at B from connector because he new that the t was at the bottom so it would take some time to get to him. So he looks at B to see if their flanking from B. Once he gets the kill, hears a t switching guns and running at him so he looks at cat and gets that kill.
he is walling dude
I'd like to see holiday season special episode with 24 or 25 cases in one video
1:27 put the speed at 0.25 guy was aiming the wall but got the shot + as a wall hacker 1st guy clearly a wall user as well, so i think wall users should do overwatch not only legit players cause they catch even the good wallers, legits not cause they think guy is just good. So u made a mistake not voteing for evidence in both aim+wall .
4:48 ''the a site''
First case: Trigger-bot and walls which he/she tries to hide. Caught a few things 2 rounds in, including pre-shots with awp and some noticeable crosshair twitches/replacements.. easy case imo. Done OW cases since 2 years back. I'd re-watch it if you felt some doubt and as if you saw something shady, often helps making a last call.
The second case is the classic example of someone who thinks they know counter strike so they think they're getting away with cheating but in reality, they don't know counter strike because all they've ever done is cheat.
With every video I watch from you, I remember why I left CSGO 3 years ago. Absolut shithole of a game
The first guy used triggerbot u can spot it as he switched from awp to knife slowly because he didnt shoot by himself so took quite a little bit time to connect with that.
No he didnt.
@@Nelex5000 lol why are you defending the first guy on all comments? because you're him right?
Every time I think it could be cool if I showed up in one of your vids, I suddenly think 'shizz'.
I don't hack but then everyone would see my wide peeks and silverstrat rushes down mid Inferno with an mp7 and a smoke
Dude 1st guy obv playing with wh, or he have best reactions in the world, look how tinny angles he holding and never miss... Sry bad English
Triggerbot..
First guy had walls and triggerbot. He had horrible positioning crosshair placement and map knowledge but he was instantly killing everyone and knew where they were coming from with perfect timing
Noah M dude didn’t have triggerbot and chill you play ROBLOX
Last guy wasn’t cheating he just bought a good gaming mouse
ADAM ADAM u forgot the gaming chair
Yeah
VorbFN nah that was his RGB gaming chair helping him
for me the first one is an aim assistance convict
Edit : it was soft aimlock imo.
Yea, he had aim assist, flicking doesnt work that way. you dont always end up on the center of their body, most time my flicks end past the person, i just shoot when it was over them
Yeah he is way too fast as well, at .25 speed he still just instantly teleported onto the enemy
Didn't you see there were shots he missed with an awp. It's not purely 100 percent. If you've been practicing awping. You try your best to minimize that mistake of overextending from the body. It's hard, but it can be done w practice.
Phil Caz well he can toggle pretty easily though right? It could also just be an aim assist instead of aimbot
@@philcaz9039 Its not a mistake, there is just no actual point to stopping at his body, for the fastest flick, you want to move your mouse in his direction as fast as possible, and simple click when you see your cursor is over him, to stop on his body, you have to slow down your flick, and thus, your shot will be slower. if you stop in his middle, your shot will be quite a bit slower than people who overextend. I was global elite and an awp main for my team, Im not just talking randomly.
1st case is clearly vision assistance. For instance that hold on B-site. He kills 1 with the bomb, and there might be more terrorist, but the suspect already goes somewhere else. We know that there are no terrorists in apps, but the suspect should not. Then there is a terrorist picking up the bomb and walking back, and the suspect seem to follow him and walking away from B site. When the terrorist with bomb decides to go back to B-site, the suspect returns to B-site. The timings of these rotation decisions are just to coincidental to be legit.
2:55 clear aim-lock, his crosshair is not on the enemies head before or after the shot and he shoots exactly when the guys head is visible on the screen. For me that is definetly evidence beyond reasonable doubt.
Your an idiot. One kill is almost never evidence beyond reasonable doubt, unless the player is spinning or shooting players through walls that aren’t bang able.
Bunny hops will get me banned??
Wow, hes definitely aim locking but then again... At least we actually have a hacker that knows how to hide it
After looking at the comments, cant really blame these people. Most people haven't played level 5 faceit and above. When u play against those players u feel like everyone is hacking sometimes
tibaw is law.. well done with the vids bruh. fair and honest.
in my opinion, the first guy had trigger bot
I dunno. I think the first one is shady, but legit. A lot of his questionables (even the 4 min window jumper) had his teammate dying or watching that angle for him.
And the rest of the time could just be really good game sense. And his constant checking of angles shows him thinking what the next move was gonna be.
what was that prefire on 5.39 sec lol like how he knows
1:25
Good enough to hear EXACTLY where the enemy is coming from and do a Bhop into window, but not good enough to aim toward A site in that situation? Just aiming at the ground "oblivious" to the enemy.
Suspect: lands a vent hop and 3 bhops
Time is but a window: he might be cheating
4:51 when the ct on b site kills his teammate he keeps noscope but the crosshair is lined with enemy feet until he jump from the box then scope right into the spot ct is jumping? LMAOOOO
the first guy, right towards the end i 10000 percent think was walling, because: sure the first kill in the final clip *of suspect one* was a pretty normal thing, but suspect was very agressive which was uncharacteristic, and thats after looking in the "rough direction" of the rest of the enemy team. he also knew the guy was above on the scaffolding as if by memory, and then *heres the juicy part* pulled out his knife and took off towards what would normally be a blind corner because he KNEW the rest of the enemy team was on the other site. nobody that good would run towards connector that fast after making so much noise unless they knew it was clear.
Hi prophet can you please make a video on picking mid better on D2. I know it's hard to get reflexes like yours but still general tips and tricks on it. thanks in advance
*you need to watch without x-ray and only turn it on if you see something fishy*
3:32 blatant af, nobody's reaction time is that fast
Everbody says this unless r pro lol
@@vonrhyanpunzalan5446 nobody's reaction time is that fast and you know it lmao, don't try and be a smart ass
Thats what they all said to all the guiness world record holders..
@@vonrhyanpunzalan5446 the fastest human reaction time is 100 milliseconds, you think this guy can do 50? Get your head out of your ass kid. Plus the angle he was holding only revealed a small gap lmfao, watch it yourself
48 yrs old.. so lemme tell u that ur the kid
1st Case is 100% Walling. His movement is shit, and when he goes B Halls and drops drop he ducks when the guy is peaking window. Give me a break. He is not blat but deff uses it. His awareness doesn't match his cross hair placement among other things. 5:30, Comes A ramp Spots stairs and then without seeing knows the guy drops down toward A side. No fucking way. There is no one else around to even pass that info for him. Then the guy balcony above him as well. He is way to aware. He was walling. Your global and if you don't see this bro.. We need to talk
First Guy was using trigger bot or clean
No.1 was fishy but there wasn’t enough evidence
*Hits vent jump* “he’s a movement god”
It is my friend he has that exact awp skin and agent...
Jeff Boy your friend isn’t the only one with some agent and a safari mesh awp skin lol
@@Noobgaming2 Did i say he was? And who asked you?
Jeff Boy bro you literally said “it is my friend” and I don’t care if you didn’t ask you posted a comment on a public video on the internet
I didnt say he was the only one with that skins. I jusy said he had the exact same skins...
Jeff Boy and all I said is that your friend couldn’t be the only one
2:32 and 2:33 its weird he was about to go then sees the guy about to peak then changes his direction
About that first case in mirage. I really don't think he had any cheat jump script.
I've watched a lot of csgo mirage tutorials for perfect movements and I can do that. Does that make me a silver 5 cheater??
The second guy was just too good bro
idk why there is people claiming that the first guy is blatantly cheating, I didn't see anything blatant, he is most likely smurfing on low ranks. At 2:30 he should have heard the plant if I'm not mistaken, and people usually fake plant at low ranks just for 1 kill, it was just game sense.
Just watch my video called "Overwatch banned highlight#1" and people would probably think I was cheating but it is because people at that rank literally don't react to anything you do. They keep playing the same way throughout the whole game and never change a thing in their gameplay, basically, they don't adapt so predicting them becomes easier as the game progresses, since they let you control the pace of the game.
That's zuhn right there
The hop into snipers isn't all that hard, im basically only just starting to focus on movement and I've hit it a few times in competitive matches myself. Also it isn't that much more risky than just normally crouching through so its worth it to try the hop decently often, especially when warmed up. Bhopping is much easier than the average player believes it is, and, even if it isn't as consistent as I would like, hitting 4+ hops isn't only something a cheater can do.
well actually no sometimes i get 4 or 5 hops with mousewheel but indeed never consistent only 1 time a match or sometimes not at all
Thats what I meant by saying its not as consistent as I would like, but with more practice comes more consistency.
@@IainBLittle oh yea srry but people who do OW need to be more alert most of them see someone jump and almost instantly say bhop scripts
I completely agree, if you know how to bhop you can judge how good their bhop vs their general movement is and then you can tell if they are scripting, if they have bad movement but incredible bhops then it is more likely to be scripts as often you learn general movement at the same rate you learn to bhop.
@@IainBLittle agreed
not sure how you were so sure about the walls on the third guy. not saying he wasn't, but it didn't look clear cut to me.
Watch from 14:25-14:30.
@@every116 ok, ya, that looks sus as hell, tho i prefire that location all the time
First cheater was cheating. Good day.
No he wasn't :) and you have no evidence to prove me wrong!
@@Nelex5000 why are you defending a cheater
@@Nelex5000 5:14 no info about drop, always aiming at the corner where he should be without checking others, crosshair placement is shit... easy case he's a cheater, and that's probably you lol
@@Paketaqi I wasn't.
I do what you're supposed to do in overwatch, convict someone if you are 100% sure they're cheating. Apparently I was very convinced he wasn't cheating so I made those comments.
The 1st guy was probably walling but it's correct decision as it's insufficient evidence. It has to be quite obvious and consistent to give "evidence beyond reasonable doubt ". Well done.
Toaster was cheating, but i dont think this guy did. There were some suspicious moments but it looks like someone who knows the game.
How does someoe who doesnt know how to strafe and aims on the ground look like someome who knows how to play
You must be the suspect
@@indifferenteyes Nelex revamped is the suspect, he's defending the 1st guy on every 2nd comment
Was the first player not blatantly using triggerbot? Dont think even the pros react as fast as that guy
About that jump into the snipers nest: I'm a gold 2 and I make that jump perfectly, 50% of the time every time
Mosh Mage yeah but the rest of the guys movements were kinda garbo. I know kids that hit that hop all day everyday but they are also well rounded in all other forms of movement and hops.
60% of the time it works EVERY time
trigger and aim its clear from the 2nd kill on the ladder room guy
Just the way he was aiming around slowly and how his crosshair was sometimes on the ground, I feel like the first case was a cheater but it certainly wasn't 'evident beyond reasonable doubt'.
yes it was 100% clear that this guy cheats, he isnt even good at hiding it, i hope you are not overwatching yourself
smithwick1710 yeah no you’re just stupid
Finally a case t hat I am pretty sure I submitted! The last game I believe I was going against him!
What if the first one just have a friend that's cheating and telling him where the enemies are? Have you not thought of this possibility?
the window room hop is easy to make even with 60 fps at 60hz you can make it consistently with a lot of practice
3:30 100% trigger bot cheater🤧✅
4:46 ...a site or A site..or my mistake ?
:P
Remember, they're in the OW system because they did something that 95% won't happen with a legit player. They could have gotten really fucking lucky.
Wdym the last guy did not use aim assistance it was just crosshair placement with walls
Imagine missing your shots with walls
Watch it on slow mo, aim lock detected. That is evident beyond the sky.
The first guy was obviously using a trigger bot.
The window hop isn't that hard, if you train it in offline and youre already decent in movement, you can learn to do it consistently-ish in a single day
Weeb
mattias erikson what a well thought out and reasonable comment thanks for your valid criticism
Last guy would have been reported for aim if it was me doing the case. Probably also had walls because of that scout shot he hit through the gap between tri box and the wall looking
The hop into the window room should not be reported unless all other movement is trash. Honestly I thought the guy didn’t have very good movement so it was a little fishy, but I know people that can hit that hop all day.
Case 3 looks like a guy that I play against... Because I had exactly the same under situation on mirage and some others
Yeah reminds me of a russian I played against his sens was so high he once confused himself, but still hit everysingle shot, was aggressive af and was always confident
I think the first guy might have trigger
When a round on dust2 starts with 4 awp on t, there is something off....
My team had 5 awps with 0 cheaters lol
I think he's either walling or has really good comms with canary, cuz you know deathcam tells you a lot more than you should know.
theres no deathcam in comp...
rack in the screen that shows you damage taken and given, if you don’t skip the screen you keep watching your dead body and can see enemy positions/rotations
@@hkhkhnmmnlkyyutuytu you cant skip the screen, there is no screen
@@DavidDragon-zx9jd ?? There’s a deathcam that reports your damage and their damage and often you can make rotation calls based off the movements you see on it especially on CT side or as a T lurk
@@hkhkhnmmnlkyyutuytu thatt aint a deathcam but okay
I've usually been met the first hacker type recently.
The window bhop on mirage can't really be done with external assistance. It's more about timing of the first jump then spamming jump once you're in the window. A script can't make you land it.
That first guy was walling like crazy. :D Second guy the same... wh, that aim and ofc bhops lol. Third is VERY fishy and i think he is walling also. This year will be FULL of hackers. :D
Case 1° is triggerbot, not wallhacks.
Bruh how do you not know on the first one he didn’t hit anything for most of his shots
I think number one had nothing but trigger
The first case was using wallhack
No aim lock
Parsa Nazari with aim lock I think
2:52
The last time i was this early my girlfriend cheated on me
3Fekt feels bad man
@@asmus.7063 making other people laugh about it makes it feel a little better
That calls for a cheating overwatch case
F
@@ezraXDXD thank you for your F sir. If i did an irl overwatch case i'd probably find a lot of shady shit
First one is cheating for sure