David Thomas No, seriously, you sound a little immature. Why should his being religious (if your unnecessary guessing is correct) be any more of a problem than you being atheist.
I saw Derren Brown a while back in London, at his show infamous. It was brilliant, the way that many separate mildly impressive acts came together to make an absolutely incredible final 5 minutes. Great man.
Quite a few modern sciences and professions started off as parlour tricks, electricity was seen as a parlour trick for decades before people started trying other things with it.
+Ben Theredonethat Speaking at a debate at Oxford University with the Archbishop of Canterbury, the man regarded as the world's most famous Atheist states, he is an "agnostic" and has never called himself the world's most famous Atheist because he is clearly agnostic ! watch?v=dfk7tW429E4 P.s. Richard likes word play he uses it like an hegelian dialectic to confuse and steer the outcome in his debates...Like a conjuring trick! There are linguistic Tricks and Master Dawkins knows plenty of them btw
As long as science has no fundamental understanding of the nature of reality we will have these unscientific ideas put forward. It is not what science can do or explain it is what science cannot explain that is the problem! Science has no understanding of why we have a future that is always uncertain and a past that we can never change. If science could explain this based on reason and mathematics it would help replace these unscientific ideas!
Absolutely , i have experienced many things of a metaphysical nature. EVerything is happening in the 'now' , i have experienced mediumship that did not include cold reading or barnum statements. There is so much going on that most people can't even begin to realise or understand....
An artist theory on the physics of 'Time' as a physical process. Quantum Atom Theory it's because they're thinking in terms of time/motion but once you start thinking in terms of present/stillness this changes.
EDITED This is in reference to another Richard Dawkins interview of a religious nutjob who basically "cold reads" religious people. I'm not sure if that was your intention An artist theory on.... but well played ua-cam.com/video/-AS6rQtiEh8/v-deo.html (edited again because I didn't copy the entire link and only posted half of it)
I had some experience of training for psychic development, I was interested in metaphysics.. Subtle energies we have not fully understood as yet, I was in fact sceptical. However, at the end of the course, I had experienced things that really were impossible to explain... No tricks! There are always charlatans but there are secrets in this universe we have yet to label. Keep an open mind I say!
That's amazing! You experienced things that were impossible? Why haven't you informed the world? You could be a billionaire within a year and go down in history as the person who found and proved the supernatural. People could study this and confirm without doubt that yes, it IS truly impossible. You could revolutionise out understanding of physics, humanity, and reality etc. Society as we know it would changed overnight. Holy shit! Or maybe you are one single person who is mistaken..... Hmmmm.
+Kevtb87 well, seeing as you asked....I believe it is inate in all of us. have a look at quantum physics and maybe the impossible is actually possible...I keep an open mind..that seems to be how we get to understand these things. I do recognise there are plenty of people who will lie and steal from others, but there are others that want to help by offering their well intentioned energies, which is pretty powerful.
@@kevtb874 What to see the impossible? Go and do a high dose of psychedelics. There, I've given you the secret to the supernatural and impossible. Let me know how it goes.
"I sense you're sitting in a bus going wrong way ... Or maybe ot is a relationship" :D this line made me laugh. Sounded like something you'd put into a comedy sketch show like Little Britain xD
The barnum statements experiment / reading experiment Derren did just shows how almost-identical we all are. But yet people often think 'oh that's a me thing!', any time you think or do something you think is unique to you, you can bet that probably 95% of others think or do the exact same. So, even this within itself, if you know this, you could fake being 'physic' quite easily by just thinking of inner thoughts or fears or ambitions you have, then just say them to someone else like you know it's true of them, and it'll feel like you're reading them
@MountcastleFilms That's an interesting theory: everything is part of something larger. Talking about the video, whenever someone says something hurtful to you, though you may be strong enough to outwardly deflect it, the internal "hit" will penetrate even deeper. Talking to a good friend afterwards can help, but what we really need to do is to find the best friend inside ourselves so that we may break a negative thought pattern at its root.
Where can I start in learning what Derren Brown does? (not in front of an audience!)? I have already read - Derren Brown: Tricks of the Mind, Derren Brown: Mentalism tricks. Please don't put a link to his recommended books, I just want a good "step-by-step" guide to some of his tricks, I also do not want to have to pay for anything so a website or downloadable .pdf would be great, thanks
I was looking at a different Internet Explorer window, and when I came back, the video was at 3:15, and I thought Dawkins was choking Derren. Hahahaha.
I worked out Derek Acorah's cold reading in the 1990s by recording his 'Talk Radio' shows with James Whale and analysing them. He did everything Derren talks about here and more. It sickened me that I knew that HE knew he was looking for a 'hit' all the time while the people he was stringing along were hurting and desperate for some comfort.
1:49 I would LOVE to see the 'reading' that he gave the people... to see if I can go into the street and hand these things out to random people (that meet the description or course) just to see their reaction
a way to avoid the problem of simply inventing names and waiting until someone in the audience recognizes it, is if the psychic chooses a person beforehand and then says the name. If that is the case and if someone has seen that happen, the evidence is much more convincing.
@jmann114 also, when i say "in their mind" i mean it in the sense that everything we experience in our living consciousness is experienced in our mind via our senses. so if someone who's heart stops on the operating table can see and hear what's going on around them all that means is that their brain hasn't stopped functioning due to the lack of blood being pumped to it.
i think that has ended now, read an interview with the amazing randi a while back where he said it was too much work to keep going. i think he has proved his point anyway
Glad to be of service, just wanted to point out the intellectual brilliance of that most enlightening comment, don't thank me, thank you MrCardShark101
Jimbo and Bubba were two blind brothers from a very rural small town. Their father died so they had to fly on an airplane for the very first time. Soon after take-off Jimbo tells Bubba that he doesn’t really believe he’s flying because “it just ain’t possible for no man to fly in the air!”. Bubba tries his best to convince him otherwise but without success. Suddenly the plane loses its engines! As the plane is going down - which brother puts on a parachute before he jumps?
Off topic but as for the old Chicken or the Egg debate goes - Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.
@tahshin1601 Yeah, Derren acknowledges that twitch in his book, Tricks of the Mind. If I remember right he said it developed because of all the hypnosis he has done. It is part of getting the subject into a compliant state.
@jmann114 part of it? you mean on it's own the video isn't conclusive? i want you to provide solid fool proof evidence which stands up to scrutiny, do you have this? or are you wasting both of our time?
Same way microevolution happens. Copying is not precise, and even the smallest detectable difference is enough to drive change when acted on by a selection pressure. How doesn't it happen? By what mechanism are random copy errors constrained, and to what boundries?
@TonyLee1000 are you saying Derren Brown is not an internationally reknowned master mentalist (the parlor game-magician type mentalist ofcourse)? Then please mention some that are, particularly those I can see on youtube like I can Derren Brown.
From Non Sequitur: "The most accurate fortune ever told. You will be told what you want to hear. It will be so generalized that it could fit anyone. You will pay a ridiculous amount of money for it."
Why would I go there? Do you really think the "King of tricksters" is going to say anything other than "it wasn't a trick?". He or his team are going to great lengths already to patch up things on the web. "Incriminating" links are disappearing fast; forums suddenly have eloquent support suddenly arriving days after the show has gone away? Why would people who are "happy" the show wasn't faked suddenly go looking for the doubters? No ... your post is intended for others who may have read mine.
@The7thBeatle Science doesn't say that the universe sprang forth from nothing, it simply states that everything in the universe is moving away from one point, the point of what we assume to have been a super planet that exploded. Because everything in the universe was gathered into this point and was then randomly dispersed amongst the universe we can say that nothing that happened before that event has any relevance to anything that occurred afterwards, i.e. us.
The second half of the video where they're talking about people teaching others to cold read without it seeming like trickery...reminds me of how my my mom and grandma trained me to think that this sort of stuff was legit. They taught me how to do this, and I honestly thought nothing of it. Then I hit my teen years, started really looking at the world as objectively as I could, and started to form my own opinions. Scary how they didn't realize what they were teaching me.
@jmann114 "But the same could be said for people who insist they are just hallucinations." the burden of proof lies with the person claiming that it wasn't just a hallucination. "but the people who have experienced clinical death always come back with something to share. And it's not just abstract images/sounds. Some of them have reported and proven that they were consciously aware of what was going on around them." clinical death is not brain death, and nobody comes back from brain death.
@jmann114 it can mean some of those words but the Hebrew for virgin is betulah. It's a straight translation error. So much faith and dogma rests on it, hence the denial.
To me Richard Dawkins is like Robert Langdon from Dan Brown's novels: he takes all the myths, fears, misconseptions and unveils the symbolism behind them.
A meeting of two of my fave people in the world today. Sweet.
Really ? I'm guessing you're religious then.
*****
Why not, since there is nothing wrong with gay people.
David Thomas No, seriously, you sound a little immature. Why should his being religious (if your unnecessary guessing is correct) be any more of a problem than you being atheist.
Religion was a concept created by man to control other men. Nothing good in it !
kent2305 🤣
Wow, I'm loving this.👍
Two great minds😊
"Even if science can't explain everything, what makes you think religion can?" - Richard Dawkins
What makes you think it can't?
@@Conography how do humans acquire knowledge in general? With science or with religion? Just think for a moment.
@@LittleVboh why do you think science hasn't been able to solve the mystery of Consciousness yet? Just think for a moment.
@@Conography and religion did?
@@LittleVboh no, religion is, for the most part, a perversion of mystical teachings.
My two favourite people. Just needs hitchens there too
+Dougie “dougster701” Haggerty Sam Harris, while not as great as Hitch, does just fine carrying his torch.
+Ben Theredonethat
Yeh i do like sam too
We'll have to hold a séance and invite Hitch to join us ;)
Im sure derren could create that illusion!
i was delighted just now when i discoveered theres an episode on sam harris podcast waking up (spotify)that features derren brown, have fun!
When derren hesitates he does his little head nodding tick thing, so adorable :') They are both awesome people.
Nervous tic....
Why are there so many Dawkins interviews where they're standing the entire time?
Can if they want to.
When 2 awesome persons meet :)
Very interesting interview.
I saw Derren Brown a while back in London, at his show infamous. It was brilliant, the way that many separate mildly impressive acts came together to make an absolutely incredible final 5 minutes. Great man.
Love it, good sense of humor, it's a pity there isn't more of it on youtube!
saw this guy live tonight, spoke to him and got a picture with him too. Best live show ever, I seriously recommend it!
i think this man is more of a psychologist than a magician
Quite a few modern sciences and professions started off as parlour tricks, electricity was seen as a parlour trick for decades before people started trying other things with it.
Brown is both. He did close up table magic originally. He is a highly intelligent and perceptive individual.
Two very very intelligent people there!
could have bought another camera for this interview
And some chairs wouldn't go astray too.
wow great upload! An interview w a master of any field about his field is always a treasure to the curious mind!
I love how Richard is innocently asking for answers. And Derren is doing his best to be polite and avoid revealing mentalism/reading secrets.
great interuiew
Does anyone else notice that Derren has a head tic? I notice it in pretty much any video of him but never really hear any mention of it.
M111771 No?
Stephen Lynn You'll notice it if you know what to look for - just a tiny head nod at random times.
He's had loads of tics over the years, I think it's just a side effect of being a very meticulous person :)
+M111771 How the hell do you see a tic on his head? Is it on his left or right? Did he ever come down with lyme disease?
+Ben Theredonethat Speaking at a debate at Oxford University with the Archbishop of Canterbury,
the man regarded as the world's most famous
Atheist states, he is an "agnostic" and has never called himself the world's most famous
Atheist because he is clearly agnostic !
watch?v=dfk7tW429E4
P.s.
Richard likes word play he uses it like an hegelian dialectic to
confuse and steer the outcome in his debates...Like a conjuring trick!
There are linguistic Tricks and Master Dawkins knows plenty of them btw
:D Meme magic is real tho...
(and the funniest part is that dawkings make it possible)
Dawkins*
two of my favorite people
This is brilliant. Cheers uploader dude.
The Richard Dawkins foundation lol.
As long as science has no fundamental understanding of the nature of reality we will have these unscientific ideas put forward. It is not what science can do or explain it is what science cannot explain that is the problem! Science has no understanding of why we have a future that is always uncertain and a past that we can never change. If science could explain this based on reason and mathematics it would help replace these unscientific ideas!
Absolutely , i have experienced many things of a metaphysical nature. EVerything is happening in the 'now' , i have experienced mediumship that did not include cold reading or barnum statements. There is so much going on that most people can't even begin to realise or understand....
An artist theory on the physics of 'Time' as a physical process. Quantum Atom Theory it's because they're thinking in terms of time/motion but once you start thinking in terms of present/stillness this changes.
Sorry but your comment honestly doesn't make much sense to me.
EDITED
This is in reference to another Richard Dawkins interview of a religious nutjob who basically "cold reads" religious people. I'm not sure if that was your intention An artist theory on.... but well played
ua-cam.com/video/-AS6rQtiEh8/v-deo.html
(edited again because I didn't copy the entire link and only posted half of it)
Woo Woo.
I had some experience of training for psychic development, I was interested in metaphysics.. Subtle energies we have not fully understood as yet, I was in fact sceptical. However, at the end of the course, I had experienced things that really were impossible to explain... No tricks! There are always charlatans but there are secrets in this universe we have yet to label. Keep an open mind I say!
That's amazing! You experienced things that were impossible? Why haven't you informed the world? You could be a billionaire within a year and go down in history as the person who found and proved the supernatural. People could study this and confirm without doubt that yes, it IS truly impossible. You could revolutionise out understanding of physics, humanity, and reality etc. Society as we know it would changed overnight. Holy shit!
Or maybe you are one single person who is mistaken.....
Hmmmm.
+Kevtb87 well, seeing as you asked....I believe it is inate in all of us. have a look at quantum physics and maybe the impossible is actually possible...I keep an open mind..that seems to be how we get to understand these things. I do recognise there are plenty of people who will lie and steal from others, but there are others that want to help by offering their well intentioned energies, which is pretty powerful.
@@kevtb874 What to see the impossible? Go and do a high dose of psychedelics. There, I've given you the secret to the supernatural and impossible. Let me know how it goes.
Richard Dawkins + Derren Brown = doubly brilliant!! :) Thanks for posting this.
"I sense you're sitting in a bus going wrong way ... Or maybe ot is a relationship" :D this line made me laugh. Sounded like something you'd put into a comedy sketch show like Little Britain xD
two great minds
I love these two
Deren Brown + Professor Richard Dawkins = Blissful Enlightenment
Nope, dead is dead, no conversation is possible.
Am I the only one who LOVES Derren's voice?
Ohhhh yeah i've been waiting for this
Quite. Thanks, it pained me as well.
The late Colin Fry used this a lot.
Yes, it was during a debate; although, for the life of me, I can NOT remember exactly which debate it was from.
@TonyLee1000 "condemn themselves by there own tongue."
My tongue spells it "their".
We can spell properly.
Amazing. Why didn't I see this before?
That is indeed correct, therefore I shall retract my last statement and say that my flaw could be my memory that failed me in my time of need.
The barnum statements experiment / reading experiment Derren did just shows how almost-identical we all are. But yet people often think 'oh that's a me thing!', any time you think or do something you think is unique to you, you can bet that probably 95% of others think or do the exact same. So, even this within itself, if you know this, you could fake being 'physic' quite easily by just thinking of inner thoughts or fears or ambitions you have, then just say them to someone else like you know it's true of them, and it'll feel like you're reading them
@MountcastleFilms
That's an interesting theory: everything is part of something larger.
Talking about the video, whenever someone says something hurtful to you, though you may be strong enough to outwardly deflect it, the internal "hit" will penetrate even deeper. Talking to a good friend afterwards can help, but what we really need to do is to find the best friend inside ourselves so that we may break a negative thought pattern at its root.
Honest man v good
Where can I start in learning what Derren Brown does? (not in front of an audience!)?
I have already read - Derren Brown: Tricks of the Mind, Derren Brown: Mentalism tricks.
Please don't put a link to his recommended books, I just want a good "step-by-step" guide to some of his tricks, I also do not want to have to pay for anything so a website or downloadable .pdf would be great, thanks
Look at the way Derren uses his arms and hands while explaining
This interview could have really done with two cameras, and possibly some seats - the camera movement is a bit distracting in places
My two favourite personalities talking!!!!!!!!
I think they were referring to the sway and not the quality of image.
I was looking at a different Internet Explorer window, and when I came back, the video was at 3:15, and I thought Dawkins was choking Derren. Hahahaha.
very good
I worked out Derek Acorah's cold reading in the 1990s by recording his 'Talk Radio' shows with James Whale and analysing them. He did everything Derren talks about here and more. It sickened me that I knew that HE knew he was looking for a 'hit' all the time while the people he was stringing along were hurting and desperate for some comfort.
@Pianoguy32 Indeed. I wish they were sat down for this interview. Preferably Dawkins on Derren's lap.
they really needed a second camera
my two favourite people in one video, lucky me
1:49 I would LOVE to see the 'reading' that he gave the people... to see if I can go into the street and hand these things out to random people (that meet the description or course) just to see their reaction
Two legends.
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the camera made me motion sick!
a way to avoid the problem of simply inventing names and waiting until someone in the audience recognizes it, is if the psychic chooses a person beforehand and then says the name. If that is the case and if someone has seen that happen, the evidence is much more convincing.
Anyone can talk to the dead... They just never get a response because, well, they're talking to a dead thing.
@jmann114 also, when i say "in their mind" i mean it in the sense that everything we experience in our living consciousness is experienced in our mind via our senses. so if someone who's heart stops on the operating table can see and hear what's going on around them all that means is that their brain hasn't stopped functioning due to the lack of blood being pumped to it.
anyone notice how Derrern Sharply nods his head quite a lot when he wants to confirm something he is saying.
Great... How do I change it back.
@santosbl01 Bit harsh, I dont think anyone who isnt a DoP noticed. Thanks for that though. Are you the Jeremy Clarkson of DoP?
Sorry, I am not english speaking, but are they saying "code" reading or "cold" reading?
Thank you MrCardShark101 for using 'thus' in your answer, you just do not see that literary splendour nowadays
@AwakeIsland it's not that, its that its moving all over the place, why not just film with a wider angle lense or slightly further away... anwyay...
i think that has ended now, read an interview with the amazing randi a while back where he said it was too much work to keep going. i think he has proved his point anyway
Glad to be of service, just wanted to point out the intellectual brilliance of that most enlightening comment, don't thank me, thank you MrCardShark101
Jimbo and Bubba were two blind brothers from a very rural small town. Their father died so they had to fly on an airplane for the very first time. Soon after take-off Jimbo tells Bubba that he doesn’t really believe he’s flying because “it just ain’t possible for no man to fly in the air!”. Bubba tries his best to convince him otherwise but without success. Suddenly the plane loses its engines! As the plane is going down - which brother puts on a parachute before he jumps?
OK big shot, give it your best. How does micro to macro happen?
It would work exactly the same as normal cold reading just without facial expressions. Cold reading is mostly about the conversation.
he's brilliant I want to meet this guy for coffee and a chat. when he does come to Australia that is LOL.
2 great brains right there. The ugly truth is better than an attractive lie.
Off topic but as for the old Chicken or the Egg debate goes - Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created.
That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.
@warriorprince1010
What were you doing during the time when the other kids were learning?
I read my horoscope today and it said "today you will read a horoscope". Holy shit!
Cold reading and hot reading.
Remember hot and cold, the game you played as a child?
It was useful then and its useful to use that game to spot it now
@XGralgrathor My mistake.
@tahshin1601 Yeah, Derren acknowledges that twitch in his book, Tricks of the Mind. If I remember right he said it developed because of all the hypnosis he has done. It is part of getting the subject into a compliant state.
@jmann114 part of it? you mean on it's own the video isn't conclusive?
i want you to provide solid fool proof evidence which stands up to scrutiny, do you have this? or are you wasting both of our time?
Why did I only just find out that this happened? It's like a dream ahhhhhh
The message is with the receiver.
Same way microevolution happens. Copying is not precise, and even the smallest detectable difference is enough to drive change when acted on by a selection pressure. How doesn't it happen? By what mechanism are random copy errors constrained, and to what boundries?
Replied to that on the first PM you sent me.
@TonyLee1000 are you saying Derren Brown is not an internationally reknowned master mentalist (the parlor game-magician type mentalist ofcourse)? Then please mention some that are, particularly those I can see on youtube like I can Derren Brown.
I'm fairly sure it is you that isn't getting it, but why don't you explain what I'm not getting?
Whats weird is that he was cold reading me throughout this whole clip
From Non Sequitur: "The most accurate fortune ever told. You will be told what you want to hear. It will be so generalized that it could fit anyone. You will pay a ridiculous amount of money for it."
would be real nice if they could keep the frickin camera steady. I became dizzy after 2 minutes
i'm sure they could have made the cameras wobble a bit more if they put their minds to it
not his foundation entirely just the million dollar prize, tried to find the article but can't remember where i read it. i could be wrong tho
Why would I go there? Do you really think the "King of tricksters" is going to say anything other than "it wasn't a trick?".
He or his team are going to great lengths already to patch up things on the web. "Incriminating" links are disappearing fast; forums suddenly have eloquent support suddenly arriving days after the show has gone away? Why would people who are "happy" the show wasn't faked suddenly go looking for the doubters?
No ... your post is intended for others who may have read mine.
@The7thBeatle Science doesn't say that the universe sprang forth from nothing, it simply states that everything in the universe is moving away from one point, the point of what we assume to have been a super planet that exploded. Because everything in the universe was gathered into this point and was then randomly dispersed amongst the universe we can say that nothing that happened before that event has any relevance to anything that occurred afterwards, i.e. us.
The second half of the video where they're talking about people teaching others to cold read without it seeming like trickery...reminds me of how my my mom and grandma trained me to think that this sort of stuff was legit. They taught me how to do this, and I honestly thought nothing of it. Then I hit my teen years, started really looking at the world as objectively as I could, and started to form my own opinions. Scary how they didn't realize what they were teaching me.
@TonyLee1000
Great point, Tony.
With an emphasis on the 'First Cause', i.e. 'Creatio ex-nihilo'.
I'm happy to accept that serpents can talk as soon as I observe such. Can you help me with that?
@jmann114 "But the same could be said for people who insist they are just hallucinations."
the burden of proof lies with the person claiming that it wasn't just a hallucination.
"but the people who have experienced clinical death always come back with something to share. And it's not just abstract images/sounds. Some of them have reported and proven that they were consciously aware of what was going on around them."
clinical death is not brain death, and nobody comes back from brain death.
@jmann114 it can mean some of those words but the Hebrew for virgin is betulah. It's a straight translation error. So much faith and dogma rests on it, hence the denial.
@Scousar Are you saying that zoology is not a branch of science?
anyone notice how Derrern Sharply nods his head quite a lot
FYI - A parable is not a short simple versus. I think you're thinking of a Psalm.
To me Richard Dawkins is like Robert Langdon from Dan Brown's novels: he takes all the myths, fears, misconseptions and unveils the symbolism behind them.
The shakycam is vertigo-inducing ...