10 War Crimes Committed by the Jedi Order!
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Those aren't war crimes if:
1. You win
2. Enemy are cluckers
3. It's Anakin doing them
The whole "winners don't get charged with war crimes" thing is false. In fact, many nations police themselves when it comes to war crimes so even if you win in a situation you are very much likely to be charged by your own country. An example being American troops being charged by the US military for firing upon civilians from WW2 all the way to today.
There are dozens of reasons why the Jedi are war criminals, and Anakin is half of them.
Only half?
@@williamtalbot5549 Yeah, Anakin is half, Ashoka and Obi-Wan are about a third, and the rest goes to the rest of the Jedi Order.
I guess technically he has been sentenced to death since he died on Mustafar and was reborn as Vader by Palpatine.
@@inductivegrunt94 ezra
Anakin:sees a possible scenario where he can commit war crimes "this is where the fun begins"
War Crime: exists*
Anakin Skywalker: This is where the fun begins.
I never heard of no Geonosis Conventions, I see no issue.
I totally agree
Red Dawn
I just love that the implication by the tactical droid that anakin has done a false surrender waaaaay more times than we acutally saw
U had 66 likes ORDER 66!!!!!!
Like Luke Skywalker once said,
My father is a war criminal
You can try convicting him
No one has the balls to take him to court
Luke skywalker is serbian
Elite reference
the clone wars is supposed to be a kids show
jedi "what war crimes can i commit today"
The Separatists accepted the Republic's surrender several times and they manipulated them. Yet the Republic had the audacity to call the Separatists evil who were just fighting for their freedom and independence. The Separatists warned Republic planets the Republic was corrupt and would abuse them. Yet they refused to listen to them and did nothing but complain when the empire took them over. They brought it on themselves.
Hello mr gta man
Well Palpatine was controlling the clone wars
“Freedom and independence”.
Did you not see who the separatists were? Let me list them out.
Nute Gunray. Wat Tambor. Count Dooku (A Sith Lord). General Grievous. Rune Haako. Poggle the Lesser. I could go on.
All of them were war criminals who made (pre Vader) Anakin look like a saint in comparison. None of the crimes described in this video come even remotely close to the crimes the separatists (especially Grievous) committed. Let me list a few. Remember how Grievous tried to destroy a medical station treating 60000 wounded soldiers? How Wat Tambor did human experimentation and bombed and starved Ryloth civilians? How Gunray tried to murder a senator multiple times?
Oh yeah. And let’s not forget the time they tried to unleash a bioweapon on all of Naboo and planned to use it on republic aligned planets.
And you think they cared about “freedom”? Just as the empire is meant to echo the Nazis, the CIS was meant to echo the American confederates.
But you can’t commit war cr1mes against droids… right?
But it was really just the rebels that hated them
With regards to Plo Koon and flamethrowers: You cannot use incendiary weapons against civilians - the genosians had taken up arms and thus were soldiers. I think Plo Koon gets a pass on that one
That was actually Ki Adi Mundi, not Plo Koon. 😊
Aren’t flamethrowers considered wildly inhumane to use against anyone though? No modern army uses them anymore. I think they might have been outlawed by the Geneva conventions, they really are barbaric. Thermobaric weapons and fuel-air explosives are the modern equivalents and while they are super-deadly they are nothing like as outright brutal as flamethrowers. In a world with energy weapons and lightsabers the only reason to use a flamethrower is because you want your enemy to suffer a protracted, agonizing death. Of course, the real-world analog for Star Wars is WWII, where flamethrowers were standard gear for combat engineers. So I guess it’s a question of what standards you want to hold your fiction to. Flamethrowers are visually cool. On the other hand, coating your enemy in napalm is also probably one of the most utterly barbaric ways to kill them. And you know, we’ve invented a lot of brutal weapons.
For Mace Windu, Anakin, and Obi Wan doing that to Cad Bane, they didn't want the Seperatists (or worse, the Sith) to kidnap Force-sensitive children, especially the Sith, who are ten times worse than the Jedi.
It’s still a war crime
Clone wars had tons of war crimes from both sides
Yea but the republic was just on fire with committing them
@@PitcherGundy The CIS did WAYYYY more, but just as in pur earthly wars, War Crimes are rife on both sides of conflict
But the seperatists doesnt playing the innocents.
Yeah separatists were killing innocent people left and right.
Everyone loves to point out Kenobi's fake surrender in the movie, when it's not true. Kenobi surrendered himself, and only his person, not his troops. Nor was he told to tell his troops to stop fighting. And loathsome didn't tell his troops to stop fighting either while negotiations were taking place. And Skywalker's surrender over ryloth doesn't count either. He surrendered himself and his crew, which at that point in time was only him and R2. I'd say the only one that counts is the battle of Urbana. It was a clear goal to trick the commander of the opposition to reveal himself.
Droid has no human/ sentient rights.
Well droids have rights
You can't just use them as you wish
Droids were even smarter than humans
Ehhhh.... even B1's, that mostly shut down without a massive hub to upload orders?
@@Untouchable1345 Some droids certainly were, they have had advanced AI since at least the Old Rep era (Revan)
Remember Ahsoka: it's only a war crime if we lose!
Ahsoka: Understood Master! *Interrogates Nute Gunray by threatening him with her lightsaber*
Anakin: Yeah! A war crime! That's my snips!
Do a video about Chopper's war crimes. That would be a long one 😂
It’s easier to count the people chopper hasn’t tried to kill than counting his war crimes
didn't they throw the book at chopper in rebels... hell they even did that in Star Wars rogue squadron
Remember, you can’t violate the Geneva convention if it never existed in the first place
The slave army war crime is canceled out by the fact that the clones technically are conscripts and aren’t fighting for the republic but instead fighting for the kaminoins who are private military contractors and thus the ones responsible for their soldiers actions meaning that most of the war crimes are actually on the kaminoins and not the republic.(Also biologically the clones are in their twenties so it’s not a war crime to make them fight. It’s just a draft)
I feel like Omega adds a child soldier charge, but that's just a feeling.
Of course they would commit crimes. No one is innocent in star wars.
Jar Jar
@@DarthNox66who do you think helped Palpatine get into power?
In All Wars, there are war criminals. we only hear about the ones who get caught.
@@azureheart2846 Bro, it was Palpatine who unintentionaly helped Jar Jar. Palps get manipulated
@@DarthNox66 which only further proves that nobody is innocent in Star Wars.
I jest of course.
I think #6 is a stretch. If I remember correctly wasn’t Yoda and his clones trying to be stealthy and not get caught? If you leave an enemy alive who has seen you in stealth ops, regardless if they are fleeing, they pose a threat to you, your men and the mission, since they can blow your cover and come back with reinforcements, so you would have the authority to neutralize that threat in real life.
Real, they were literally sent to murder him
Fake surrender is the most brutal
Ultimately doesn't matter though. Both wars were manufactured by the pullet master called Darth Sidious.
*Darth Plageuis, actually.
Sidious did not plan the Clone Wars. This is all explained in the novel. Darth Plageuis was the puppet master.
I don't care what Disney says
There is a Yavin Code which could be similar to the Geneva Convention but not much is known about it other than it requires prisoners to be blindfolded before execution. However I’m assuming it has other rules as well. It was mentioned in a deleted scene from Clone Wars, also mentioned (by Anakin) that nobody seems to remember it because of how old it is.
I should add using a flamethrower is not a legal by the Geneva convention
You mean illegal?
@@Battleship009 Yes
But what is illegal is the use of flame-based weaponry against sentient beings.
The Jedi being forced to abandon the code to support the leadership of the Republic, not its people was exactly what Palpatine was taught by Plagueis to be counting on. (Edit insipred by WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle's comment)
*Plageuis
The entire plan to make the Jedi fall, "force them into a contradiction," as he said, and the Clone Wars was built by Darth Plageuis. Specifically stated in the novel. Sidious was like the rich spoiled kid who inherited the Empire who had none of the talent of his father
I don't care what Disney says
@@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle I legit didn't take that into account...
In Obi WAN’s defense there is the Yavin Code… even though he uses it for stalling
I don't know of any "rules of war" in the Star Wars universe myself, so I can not make a judgement until I am familiar with any that might exist. 😂
I love your star wars videos l want to see more of these war crimes in future of star wars
Ok, but the Geneva convention/laws are not in the Star Wars Universe, so they might be broken if all of their battles were here on earth, real life battles, but there, no such thing. Therefore, can you really call them war crimes if they didn't have any laws like we do? To our standards yes, but to theirs? No.
so many war crimes in the clone wars which is why the show is so good ;)
Bro Yoda did not kill retreating enemies, he destroyed machines that were directed back
They were not acting under orders, they were retreating under self-preservation.
Make a video about all the imperial ranks like officer to grand admiral
“Torturing prisoners” *Shows Ahsoka* Nahhh hasn’t she been through enough? 💀💀💀
Revan and his followers broke many of the same laws of the Old Republic Jedi council that the new golden era Jedi Order made; and yet they treated their faults as a first to ever happen within ranks of any generation or era of the Jedi Order. Why did they never learn from the mistakes of the Old era's Jedi Order?
Incendiary weapons aren't banned in warfare. Heavily regulated? Yes.
It is illegal to use incendiary weaponry against sentient beings however.
Only if they're civilians.
Flamethrowers are not actually banned 🚫 but it is banned on the use on civilians
Nad thats why Napalm and Phosphor exists
Correct, China for example still use them. The USA has officially phased them out but did give some to the Iraq. Many countries still have them and some have used them. It is only a war crime if used against non-fighting citizens. Otherwise, in combat, they can be used. Although, they are extremely dangerous to use as the USA found out in WWII.
For every war crime the republic committed you have to remember that the speratists committed at least twice that many. I love your videos keep up the good work.
"Training terrorist" is very inaccurate. They were being trained to defend and retake their home from separatists and their collaborators who had backed an illegal change in government. The fact that two of the people they trained became terrorist in the future doesnt constitute a war crime. That would be like blaming a driving instructor because one of their students got a DUI 10yrs later.
Real ones know about… *THE YAVIN CODE*
The Confederacy of Independent Systems (CIS) was not an established government until after their succession. No treaty existed between the Republic and the CIS.
So the important thing is not that CIS was not recognized until after the Clone Wars started but more that the Republic itself which has over 10,000 years of history and likely more wars throughout its territory does not have a stated "Rules of Engagement" doctrine for war times.
The 11° is to put stupid people on command, seriously,what is these strategies??? Most of them are just kamikaze and trench rush
Annikin : War Crimes Obi wan War Crimes.everythere
Obi wan : Nice
"What you call a war crime, I call strategy." Sun Tzu, The Art Of War
The day is saved
The Seperatists did war crimes more often, especially the torture, killing those who are fleeing, killing those who are unarmed, killing medics, slave army (one could argue that the droid army was enslaved as much as the clones), attacking neutral forces, and friendly fire
Also, the Siege of Mandalore attacking a neutral party isn’t entirely accurate, as that was technically a separate conflict from the war with the CIS
Remember kids, it's not a war crime the first time.
When committing war crimes in video games I always say: I never singed the Geneva convention therefore it does not apply to me
Ahsoka didn’t torture prisoners, she pretended she was going to
Aiming any type of weapon to an unarmed prisoner even if is just a bluff remain a war crime
It's psychological torture, and a threat of death upon failure of giving needed information.
@@lucas0s_ Anakin: A war crime! Proud of you Snips!
It’s only a War Crime if you end up losing the war
you mean its not a war crime if there is no convention to make it one
Didn't Bo-Katan ask for reinforcements from the Republic though. I thought that they were justified because a side of a planet in Civil War was agreeing to allow them to break the treaty. Doesn't this imply that the mandalorians are effectively requested to remove their neutrality?
To my understanding Bane does not qualify for protection as he wasn’t a uniformed combatant.
Droids arent organic combatants and I'd argue the tactics Geonosians used forfeited any rights they had.
Matter of perspective 😅
Droids have no rights
great video yet again
Is it a war crime when you are up against killer drioids who also commit countless war crimes?
As much as I hate to defend Ki-Adi-Mundi, the fact that specialized Flamethrower Clones exist suggests that the Republic does not recognize the use of incendiary devices as a war crime.
There should be a list of war crimes committed by the Separatists, including the creation of the Shadow Moon Virus (which could have killed billions in Naboo if released).
Loved this video perfectly done!
I wonder if all the clones have names or if most of them still go by their clone number
some of these i can agree with, but honestly only the ones that are committed against sentient beings. you can't commit a war crime against a droid. much like you can't commit a war crime against a toaster.
Next video: ALL war crimes commited by jedis.
5:13 In my school vr game The dark Speakerman did something similar to Vaggie by implantings a sonic agoniser into her ear when his headphones bumped into her (he did it so to get dirt on Typhoos) 7:29 also Asohka did it to Apios (A enhanced Commando drode armed with back mounted thrusters and 2 Vibro blades based around the Dark Speakerman) where she killed him with a magnaguard staff after getting the info on where are the reactivated Drode factories
What makes fake surrender so horrid is, that it gives reason to the enemy to refuse surrenders. Regardless, if it's true or not.
8:37 E.T. sitting at the bottom right my guy.
I mean left
Using flamethrowers is not a war crime.
It technically is, but only in areas where civilians can potentially be harmed. The news crews will still throw a fit if you use them as well because it’s “inhumane” because the rest of war definitely isn’t inhumane
Ain’t a war crime against bug drones
To be fair to Windu
Jango attacked first with his flamethrower and the entire situation was a active battle
Jango made his choice in fighting a jedi
Plus Windu decapitating him was clearly not his intent
From his angle he was aiming to cut his blasters but Jango attempting to fly away with a damaged jetpack made what would have been a disarming strike hit his neck instead as Obviously Windu couldn't predict his jetpack suddenly failing
Really bro? You blame jetpack now? Bro, Windu was Master fighter, he knew exactly what he was doing
Right and wrong... Mace, under the influence of Vapaad, wasn't trying to behead Fett... In reality, he was deflecting blaster shots, and the final blow was a final deflection. But he(Windu)lost in his trance had approached at a faster pace than he predicted he would causing what should have deflected blaster bolts to sever Fett's head from his body... And you can immediately tell Mace not only didn't intend it to happen but also how much regret he felt that it happened... All you have to do is look at his facial expressions upon realizing what happened... and to find more details about it, like Windu's mind set beforehand and his mental state afterwards, just read the novelization for Attack of the Clones. Yes, everything was done in self defense and without and malice. But no, Jango never tried to flee using his damaged thruster pack because he knew it was more likely using it would cause him to get badly injured or even die; Hence why Jango was steadfast and standing straight up when he was killed... He was actually trying to force a change in the responsive action taken against him... He didn't know about Mace and his use of Vapaad and how he more or less enters a trance and loses himself to both exuding the light side as well as absorbing and reflecting/deflecting/reversing the enemies dark side emotions.
Lucas literally added more effects to show that jango was trying to fly away and his jetpack was damaged
And that nute gunray episode luminara would of been killed by ventress if ashoka didn't help
YOOO 100K!!!
That scene where the clone dies is REALLY sad. He was one of the clones that found the small twi'lek girl on that one planet.
I think it was Waxer
Dooku: "Are you sure you are the good guys?"
So Canada and Scotland taught the Jedi how to do things from their views. My 2 most favorite war crime nations ever.
What did those countries do?
Read up on history, I shouldn't have to educate the internet because they lack the capabilities to use a search engine.
@@brightlord-ov7cm Okay, no need to rude about it.
@dwnkaomwn3953 well I get tired of having to perpetually tell people to look it up and they show their ignorance by purposefully being obtuse about it.
@@brightlord-ov7cm Well, you shouldn't respond if you're going to be so nasty about it. I only asked out of curiosity and that's it, but I'll gladly find out myself than to put up with your attitude.
Palpatine deleted war crimes
@ 4:00 Don’t know why but I keep hearing battle of Urmomma😂
In star wars are no rules for war
So there are no war crimes
When you say that these things were done to robots it just removes any weight. They’re things made for war to avoid using actual people
Geneva Convention? More like Geneva Suggestion
0:27 and he was pretty damn peaceful after that
You gonna do a CIS star fighter fleet show video soon?
There was a reason why the galaxy accepted the jedi were traitors
About soldiers having to be older than 15 years old, well... The clones
Edit: nvm you bought it up a minute later
9. How can you consider it a war crime to respond to a previous war crime committed by your opponent? Dooku had violated the laws of war and overthrown a sovereign government. At that point, the resistance of the world represented a political position consistent with the will of the people and government to reject a pro-Separatist direction for their world. There is no violation in the Republic aiding the people of the planet in resisting that invasion. Even sending a force to supplement the Onderonian military would be reasonable. The only limitation would be in in any way engineering a pro-Republic following the removal of Separatist forces, as Onderon would rightfully be left to determine their own future and alignment.
Cluster ammunition is not a war crime by Geneva convention. It was an agreement signed by some of the countries, but not all. Some still have it and are technically allowed to use it.
With the unarmed enemy claim with palpatine….. the homie killed 3/4 of the Jedi there and still had the force
Here let me rename it for you: "10 war crimes commited by Anakin Skywalker" I bet he through the war at least once used fire, and the rest are obvious.
Only 10? I can get out of my head at least 50 all of them by anakin
That was mainly the reason behind the setup of the Clone Wars by Darth Plagueis and Sidious. They wanted to make the Jedi go to war and fight and eventually commit the crimes for all the worlds to see the lies of the peace keepers of the galaxy. By the time Order 66 was issued, no one cared if the Jedi Order continued to exist, because they had seen their brutality.
You should make a video about imperial task force 99
A war crime in a universe with space wizards is probably different in a universe without.
more war crimes, please
To be fair, can you really commit a war crime against droids?
What about the Droid attack on the Wookies?
Just remember…”it’s never a war crime, the first time”
Guardians of peace: kills everyone on one planet
6:33 Sure Ki Adi Mundi may have used incendiary weapons but that didn't stop the Separatists from creating the mass shadow virus
Killing Pong Krell was also a war crime😂
3:28 I forgot about that one
They should've held a Geonosis Convention lol
You can't be judged under the Geneva Convention if its in a galaxy far away a long time from now
Not gonna kie, when you said "the use of child soldiers" i fully thought you meant the clones lmao
Welp, spoke too soon.
A unarmed fleeing enemy doesn't have the same protections as a surrendering enemy. They can run to a bunker or a weapon.