Chris Simms' 2021 Draft Running Back Rankings | Chris Simms Unbuttoned Ep. 257 (FULL)
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Chris reveals his Draft rankings for the controversial RB position, and he and Paul take a few more of your draft questions. #NBCSports #NFL #ChrisSimms
(1:40) RB Scouting Process - Would Chris draft an RB in Round 1 anymore? How would Chris re-rank last year's RB class?
(12:00) RB #5 Javonte Williams (North Carolina) - "A ball of power."
(18:35) RB #4 Najee Harris (Alabama) - "He's a tough eval for me. I don't think he's a slam dunk #1 RB."
(28:10) RB #3 Javian Hawkins (Louisville) - "He's small. That's where the negatives stop."
(34:45) RB #2 Michael Carter (North Carolina) - "Nobody tackles him 1-on-1."
(44:30) RB #1 Travis Etienne (Clemson) - "The most complete RB in the draft."
(55:00) Honorable mentions - Chuba Hubbard (Oklahoma State), Trey Sermon (Ohio State), Kenneth Gainwell (Memphis), Rhamondre Stevenson (Oklahoma)
(1:08:45) #AskMeAnything - Is Mac Jones worth trading up for? How does Justin Fields compare to Lamar Jackson? Should the Bengals draft Penei Sewell or Ja'Marr Chase? And Chris tweaks his Aaron Rodgers song.
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Chris Simms' 2021 Draft Running Back Rankings | Chris Simms Unbuttoned Ep. 257 (FULL)
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I think that taking a running back in the first round also puts pressure on the team to make the pick worth it and they end up running those guys into the ground.
Also the cost of that pick depending on where he goes can make a top paid running back. Also no matter how good that back is he really can't move the neddle too muc
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I'm glad my team isn't picking a qb, but man "the Mac Jones to 3 is a bad pick" talk is such a bad take. Accuracy and decision making are often overlooked for strong arm and fast qbs that can make plays with their feet. Realistically you can win with both, but the guys winning superbowls are the guys like Mannings, Brady, Brees...HOF's sure, but then guys that recently got there and lost, Ryan, Garopollo.
This probably means nothing to yall but I played against Mixon and Najee in highschool. Both were beasts but najee was on a different level, effortless running motion and power for days
I love how smooth he runs for a big back both cut and jerky
@@weabea75 yea man, he never seemed fast when you watched him but his play speed was top level. Mixon was a bully in high school cause he could be lol
@@TheA10Thunderbolt it’s his balance and agility for me man. a guy that big should not be moving the way he does
Means something to me! East County in the house.
When you see the discipline with which Jets' GM Joe Douglas waited and waited 'til Round 4 to select Simms' #2 overall Michael Carter with the 107th pick, nabbing Elijah Moore (!) with their pick in the 2nd! Add in Zach Wilson and Alijah Vera-Tucker and this could prove one of the all-time top 4 selections in a long, long time.
Yeah Carter is a beast Jets just need to get a powerback to switch it up with.
He forgot to mention Gibson and Robinson lmao
Well James Robinson was a UDFA no one saw that coming. Gibson also was VERY raw as a RB. The scouts at Jax and Washington deserve props for that.
And Akers.
@@rilesw7576 Chris had Akers as his honorable mention (#6) RB last year, that’s what he said on last year’s rankings
Liked the video and love the show always. But cmon Javonte Williams is the dude!
him and mike carter. go heels
Ya digg !!!
He reminds me of a Curtis Martin type of RB
He’s sleeping on Javonte. He liked Josh Jacob’s but has Javonte at 5. They are the same type of player
@@charlie1379 i think javonte more of a three down back compared to jacobs who normally comes out on third down. but other than that they’re very similar.
1. Javonte 2. ETN 3. Harris 4. Sermon 5. Carter
Najee Harris's best comp for me is Leveon Bell. Lacks top end speed but has great feet, runs with patience, doesn't take a lot of big hits, and has excellent value in the pass game. Not saying he will be that good, but there is precedence for big guys who are shiftier than powerful without great speed to excel in the NFL.
M😊😊llove
Fred Jackson is a great comp for Harris, I couldn’t quite put my finger on it lol
I like this comp... i also kinda see Matt Forte as his ceiling...
@@dcromwell1 I like that one too. Matt forte had some burners tho
his best comparison is prime leveon bell tbh. jukes are great, impressive vision, amazing at hurdles, not the fastest guy but still decent speed, and if he's coming to hit you, u gonna end up on the ground
@@diegodayzz__5520 lol no
@@turc9808 literally the same player and i forgot to mention his receiving ability aswell
820 yards after contact and Simms says he cant break tackles. Smh. You need this guy in a game of inches. 4 yards, a tough 2 yards.
Clearly he hasnt watched much film of harris
@@Jay-ys7tb yeah, me and dude agree on Mond 100%. Tyson Campbell too. But sometimes you gotta use the old school tools too.
@@Jay-ys7tb lol
He's down on Hubbard but he'll be impactfull as a Pro.
Spot on with the Carter analysis;dude's frickin awesome.
Love these Simms rankings but Chris is smoking dope on this Harris eval. I agree Harris has 4.6 speed but this dude ain’t lasting until the 3rd round.
Najee Harris belongs in the 4th-5th round. Not a Top 5 RB in this class. No speed, no agility, no power. Mediocre NFL RB.
@@JM-pe2jl josh jacobs has no speed. And najee has more power than him
@@JM-pe2jl najee has power and agility
Feel like whenever Chris puts a round prediction on something, that’s his grade on where he would be okay with the pick
I agree, but he has a point , he had best o line in college.
Harris is better as Zeke, better as Barkley and better as Fournette. Sir you got this flatout wrong ! I m not a Bama Fan as you can see but i saw nobody in the past 5 years who came even close to Harris. He is the completest RB in this draft. He run over SEC people like there was nobody in his way. And he also can play TE or WR. Harris is the real deal. Btw Kylin Hill (Miss. St) is better as each of those NC guys.
Najee Harris is going to be great. Not Bama fan, but count it. He's special.
You know what the single best skill a rb needs to get on the field and stay? Being able to pick up a blitz, and not get your qb killed.
Nobody talks about it but Henry is tremendous at that, of course he's bigger than most backs but he never gets beat on Pass protection.
@@Veaseify zeke too
Chris you my guy but are you having a hard time judging speed this year? Chuba ran a 4.36 and saying Waddle isn’t a burner either
Chubs didn’t run a 4.36 tho. The score posted on his schools website was incorrect
Hubbard ran 4.48 at his April 1st Pro Day
40 speed and in game speed aren’t the same 🪚
@@australianpatriot yeah but someone with a faster forty speed is gona run faster in a game than someone with a slow forty 😂
@@noahmetzger852 not necessarily. A fast guy who you put pads on and his head is on a swivel so he doesnt get crushed can be slower in a game and a different guy who times a lil slower but is more of a football player and just goes and doesn't care about what happens can be faster
What would make this show more interesting is give visual examples of players you study and when you describe the play use the film to help you describe it better and us see it better (for us VISUAL learners)
I think College Film is proprietary, they probably can't show anything without paying for it.
Travis Etienne gives me Marshall Faulk vibes.
No. You have to earn HOF comparisons.
KYLIN Hill?!?! Where is he?! He should be at least #3. Great speed, vision, and amazing reviver out of the back field. To me, he looks like an Alvin Kamara type when I see him run. He is so smooth and quick. Looks like he is gliding on the field.
I agree with you. I believe he's no doubt a top-3 RB in this class. I like him better than Javonte Williams and Michael Carter. If it weren't for his circumstances, he would no doubt be in the group with Etienne and Harris.
Go watch Hill's game vs Southern Miss. He made the best run of any RB in this class with 2:21 left in the 1st Quarter. He shows nearly every skill needed for the position (vision, cutting ability, power, balance and explosiveness) on this one run.
It hurt Hill that he played for a BAD Mississippi State team in the toughest division in college football. He's a rocked-up RB with GREAT balance, good power, good pass-catching ability, pretty good burst, EXCELLENT jump-cut ability and he has good enough speed. People act like he busted out this year, but he was still able to catch 23passes for over 200 yards in 3 games. I believe he has the best chance of any RB in this class to turn into a mid-round star.
Wonder how they rated D Henry?
Javonte Williams has a lot of Kareem Hunt's game. Similar size, similar run style, similar speed, same vert, more reps, much better 3-cone and short shuttle. I think he's a player. We'll see. I think worst case he's another David Montgomery. Williams creates too much, has too much quickness in the hole, has vision that's too strong to put him this far down, IMO. Ask FSU and Miami how much power this kid has, lol. I feel like I watched an entirely different dude than Simms here. Respect his knowledge, but I just don't see it. That said, 100% agree that Carter is a very compelling prospect in the NFL. His jump cut is reminiscent of Cook's.
I don´t know why Chris keeps talking about Fields as if he´s just a physical athletic runner type QB. The guy is living in the pocket basically and is the most accurate on deep throws in the draft. Well, I have no clues about who´s going to be the best QB in this draft or what the ranking should be but the way Chris talks about Fields is weird for me. That´s just my two cents.
I would normally not listen to people about athletic qbs because they stereotype athletic qbs as those who can't throw. However, he did predict that lamar and allen would the best qbs of their draft and Burrow, Herbert for theirs. He even said that lamar had zero question marks coming out of the draft( both passing and rushing)! I think Simms sees some significant flaw in fields that we can't see.
Yep
Moss over Swift? Nuts
Chris values speed over other traits! Totally cool, just a preference!
How would you not put Akers in the top 5 after evaluating the rbs after year in the NFL? Especially over Moss.
45:32 what Simms REALLY is looking for in his RBs
This is two years in a row that I've loved Chris's QB and WR ranks, and pretty strongly disagreed on the RB ranks.
You could argue that the Clyde Edwards-Helaire pick is the reason Chiefs don’t win the super bowl. If they draft a Cesar Ruiz, Ezra Cleveland or Austin Jackson ahead of the RB maybe when Fischer goes down you can get JUST AVERAGE OL play vs BUCs , things are very different
I wouldn’t draft any of these rbs if I was picking. Way too many good players at more important positions in the ranges where they are projected.
4:53 more shifty than fast you see it a lot in nba pgs
I hope this helps dolphins fans and gets them to quit saying Najee at 18 🤣
Idk why that’s been the mock so much?! Etienne would be better in my opinion but I for sure wouldn’t even take one in the first if I was them. Get defense or something idk
I’d be perfectly fine with Harris at 18. He’s to me Leveon Bell. Wouldn’t prioritize it but if Grier pulls the trigger i wouldn’t mind
@@quintandf72 the Fins are too woke to get 1st round RB
Why would Dolphins fans, or anybody else, worry about what Top Button says?
Simms is killing it
Khalil Herbert should be assessed - great vision, blocking, catching. Not great top end speed but it is good. He is a sleeper.
Wasn't he a 6th round pick? Steal. Could be a solid nimber 2 option
Twyman is a Beast;40 reps on the Press Bud!
Take that dude in the 3rd beast
Kenneth gainwell. Get ready for it.
I agree really like him, hope my JETS. take him in 3rd
Simms thats a GREAT IDEA about Pete. Id really like to hear that!!
Simmsie hedging his Najee eval cuz he knows if Najee gets into the right situation he could be a McCaffery putting up big numbers in both rushing and receiving yards.
Taylor is no 1 and Clyde 2 for me their roles are different because the Chiefs have more weapons and he did get hurt and was out a few games but put up good numbers 👍
Hopefully Steelers go O-Line in the first round and pick up one of those guys in the second round.
Finally somebody who feels like me about Harris! As a Bills fan i cringe when people say they want him at 30!
Idk he has very soft hands and is TOUGH to bring down. I was watching the championship game and man he was BREAKING tackles. Always falling forward.
I’m a Steelers fan and everyone wants him at 24. If he’s there in R2 fine but not R1
I’m a bills fan also and I totally agree with you, not interested in Harris at 30, pass rush needs to be the priority for the bills
I don't think you take him in the first round, but then again I don't think you take any RB in the first round this year. That said, I think shitting all over him just because he isn't fast is an overreaction. I think 40 times in RBs are pretty overrated these days. Your avg/carry is barely affected by pure speed, it's way more about vision, shiftiness, and ability to break tackles. You'd rather have a guy that never breaks a big run over 40 yards because he gets chased down but can always get you that 3rd and 3. Wayyy more valuable, that consistency.
Also he's a great receiver and good pass protector so even though he's not going to break Chris Johnson type runs he is one of the more valuable backs in the draft. I think Chris Simms does have him too low (although again I reiterate that I would not take him or any RB 1st round), I'd rather have him than most of these backs. Oh I forgot to mention, he never fumbles.
I got number 1,5,6 overall ,in the dynasty league.who do I pick? .(I need running backs)
First round running back has a higher success percentage than first round quarter back.
Cause fuckers reach for qbs and let rbs sit til the 2nd
Javonte Williams doesn't have great change of direction ability? Whaa? That's like his thing.
Other than his QB rating the rest of them have been ass lol. Man had Dyami Brown ahead of ELITE WR in the draft, that’s when I knew he was only a QB guy lol
I disagree with these predictions heavily. I’m looking at Chubba Hubbard and Chris Evan’s
Kendrick s finally getting some national love!
Chris said the same thing about Derrick Henry. PRO BOWL, 2X OFFENSIVE POY, 3X LEADING RUSHER Derrick Henry. Wrong on Najee. 70% of running backs Don't run 4.4. U can't be serious. DIDNT even have Josh in your Top 5. 2x Pro Bowler Josh Jacobs.
Bruh Josh Jacobs was his #1 RB two years ago what are u on about
Are we sure Henry has won the rushing title 3 times?
Edwards - lacks speed, but has shakes. Same issue with Carter this year.
Can u compare Zach Wilson and drew lock
They look similar that’s about jt
Javonte Williams reminds me of Chubb.
My kind of RB
Watch some Brenden Knox, they have the same build and play style. He won’t be Chubb by any means but reminds me of him
He is my kind of RB too but he is more of a Josh Jacobs type of Running Back
Najee is going to be Hall of Fame
Someone else here days before their rookie draft in dynasty?
When he got to #3 I just threw my arms up. Hawkins? He's a runt and could end up being a day 3 pick. I know your rankings are NOT for fantasy football, but Hawkins will never be startable for fantasy teams. He's a gadget guy only. You seem to favor the small / fast guys and do not like the bigger RBs. You drastically overlook power and tackle breaking ability. Most games are won moving the chains, not with the once a year 70 yard runs. ETN will not find the holes he had in college and doesn't have the wiggle or power to create. Hawkins will never get more than 4 or 5 carries a game IMO. The one guy you mentioned I love is Carter. His vision is the best in the NFL. His ability to change direction as he gets close to the line of scrimmage is unreal. Go watch Matt Waldman's videos on Carter and you will see what I mean. He also is very good running routes.
It's not my favorite RB draft class. I see no reason not to wait and go for one of, Stevie Scott, Trey sermon or rhomandre stevensen... Somebody needs to tell Dave so the NYG don't overdraft another RB! :)
Steelers are taking Harris or ETN at 24 overall. Lol I don’t agree with it. I would rather get sermon or gainwell later but Steelers seem to be in love with them both.
I always thought Harris’s lack of long runs at Alabama was concerning. I don’t know about the 4th RB because I think his agility and burst are enough to average 4.5 yards per carry
ive said it before why isnt pete ever in the show!
'Your own Pro Day 40 time is going to be good' - it makes you wonder if anybody takes those times seriously...
Najee Harris would fit well with the 49ers out of the backfield can move him around.
Honestly, I was surprised that Najee was rated 4th, but I can see it. Im also concerned about Najee's speed. Best case scenario, he becomes the next leveon bell cuz leveon lacked speed coming out of college. However, it seems like Leveon had more power.
Bell rarely used power in his prime he was using his vision and footwork to make tacklers miss
@@Steve_643 you're wrong and heres why. If you watch bell's college tape, you can clearly see power in his runs. He will rarely get tackled down on the first point of contact. If you watched najee's tape, its different. He will either try to juke, hurdle or something, but you can rarely see him trucking someone or get outta a tackle from a linebacker or d line using power. Now to Leveon's nfl tape, he clearly utilized his agility, patience, and elusiveness but those three were compiled with the power factor. Once leveon goes to the second level, he uses his power to get extra few yards. I think najee will be able to gain those 3-5 yards from a run using his agility, patience, and elusiveness, but once he gets to the second level he won't outperform other rbs who have superior speed and power.
@@Steve_643 Bells stiff arm was nasty
Here after Hawkins went undrafted and was signed by Atlanta. I hope Simms is right with his analysis. 🤞
There are more 1st round QBs that are busts than RBs....it’s a team sports gentlemen.
"Sony Michel is a bust."
Sony M. first 2 seasons: 22 starts 1987 yards 13 TD's
2018 Playoffs: 2 Starts 345 yards 6 TDs and a SB ring.
I'll take that "bust" any day.
He is a bust if you compare him with other rbs drafted that year. Sony was the only 1st round rb that year besides saquan and he didn't perform up to expectation even when he was in the Pats offense. I would much rather take chubb or ronald jones in the second round
Cause Chubb went to Georgia too and was in the same class and picked in the 2nd round.
That OLine was amazing in that run and Gronkowski and the Fullback Develin did their job great.Also when Brady is your Qb- you will face more light boxes rhan other RBs.I would not call him a bust but he has definitely not been special
The numbers are the numbers. He didnt bust. He may have been over drafted in comparison, and in hindsight, to other later draft picks but 2000 yards in 22 starts isn't a bust. His playoff run was amazing as well.
You guys are saying hes not a bust cuz he was still performing at a level, but thats not what a bust means. For instance, golf was the #1 overall pick and he performed at a level. Sean mcvay was a huge part of his success. But do you call him a bust? If he was a late round 1st, or 2nd or 3rd round pick, then no. But he was the #1 overall and he didn't perform to the potential of a #1 overall pick like andrew luck, peyton manning, etc. then Golf is a bust. Similar situation, michel didn't perform to the level of a 1st round running back, then he's a bust
Before listening I'll say right now I like Javonte Williams over ETN :) I may eat my words, but hey, it's not group think. I just like his ability to break tackles, has burst through the hole even though he's not a long speed guy, but that's not his game. Plus he is good in the receiving game. Williams is a true 3 down back and I don't think ETN is (size). I think ETN lacks patience, vision and wiggle and is a straight line guy. Now ETN will be great in the passing game and has value value in PPR leagues, but I just like Williams more. Those holes in the NFL are going to be a lot smaller and those lanes ETN had in college may not be there in the NFL. This will have more of effect on ETN than Williams IMO.
Javian Hawkins goes in round 6. Why? His pass protection sucks. Simms didn't mention that. Also after doing more research Hawkins hand size is 8 inches. Yikes
There isn’t an NFL team that will draft a RB for their pass protection.
Kenneth gainwell as a true freshman dominated stats and the yr in 19 over that draft class over last yrs draft class over all this class rb. How this draft works cause opt outs. Antonio Gibson was 2nd fiddle behind him but wft he rushed for 850 and 350 yd receiving .
This draft has a lot of freshman and true freshman like this who dominated the position has older players come into nfl have success but was second or a 3rd wheel like dk Metcalf was to Elijah Moore.
We can look at this class next to older nfl elite and kniw side by side Kennethor Elijah or chase was dominate over them.
Why pay attention to people that the premise of the argument is "you are a moron because you disagree with me"?
Justin will be the best QB in this group, whoever gets him .. Watch out!! Chris Justin has a better arm and better legs 🦵 than you ever had.
simms likes speed (and alcohol)
what if the 49ers traded the 3rd pick in 2021 for Oohhh Aaron Rodgers, thought?
Dudes shoes are suhweeet. They look to be vans. They have to be. Im going to get myself a pair. O and Ill take najee in the second easily if he is there.
I aint no pro evaluator, but Simms is 100% wrong about Najee Harris. The tape speaks for itself. Harris is at 2 hands down. Sorry
wish etn could fall to the 9ers in the second round
Javian Hawkins = undrafted wtf
And signed by the Falcons. Let's gooooo
@@shahmir5782 yeah hope he will be able to be no2.
warrick dunn!
Not good - too old.
I think simms that quite loaded this episode 😂😂😂 I usually agree but mans is straight trippin...
Hawkins even went I drafted
Najee at 4? Laughable.
Clyde is a decent back, I would like to see the chiefs draft another RB like Harris or etienne if they’re available. Having a committee would be helpful
Yes i wanted to see this i love RB’s
Jaguars got a good one🤝
58:08 WTF was that?
This is a big test for you Chris, knocking Dunn is blasphemy!
Unless Carleb Farley drops
Speed is great. But... 4/5 top rushers this year are 4.5 guys. Best all around is Kamara and he's a 4.6 guy
rarely miss a Phil Simms draft rank last few years. Loved Phil's defense of Mac going to Niners at #3, but come on, how does he not know how to pronounce his #3 RB, who he ranked ahead Najee?
*Chris Simms. LOL, sorry Chris
I was Hust Kidding :-) Rooting for Jay-vian. Niners taking an RB early I bet, to go with the new QB.
Trey Lance at #3 to Niners? Why they keeping Garropolo?. Lance top upside, only 20 yrs old, can sit a year, let Shanahan mold him. Only justification for the move, when trading to pick 6 would have got Mac. Truth.
FYI, I have watched the last 2 NFL Drafts on Bleacher Report on youtube. It's 3 dudes who know their stuff. Way better than watching the draft on ESPN. And no commercials.
Does anyone actually listen to Simms for 1 hour and 30 minutes?
Steelers need to go Tackle, Center
Najee Harris. You're welcome.
Your top qb picks ain't good. Pick linemen in the first round.
Chris "that way" simms
The Steelers should definitely take a tackle in round 1. It's a deep position but the top ones will be gone by the time they pick in round 2.
Travis to the steelers, if there is a team in the NFL great at late round picks it's them especially at the OL an WR position I'd go RB and make it a real competition at camp
najee could be a jerome bettis tho
Bettis was 5’11 250lbs that ran a 4.5. He’s not comparable to Najee.
Disrespectful to Bettis
Every position bust in the first round so go Arby or go hungry
Jt runs forward thats powerbacks do .scat backs are 3rd dn rb who everyone trying to make 1s .they break easy only habe 3 yr and done. Speed goes they are done
Chris is taking rb who may come in do good a yr or 3 but isn't most elite that will play 10 yrs. Atieast he identify this.
Worst top 5 ever 😂😂😂
Harris
ETN
JWill
Gainz WELL
carter
Hey Pete I hope you don't have the rona feel better 🙂
Derrick Henry won't make this list. Yes 6ft over powerbacks is the comeback that nfl is doing yes they get going at 26 when all these rb will be burnt up. These guys are realy 3rd dn backs. Nfl is destroying them all cause rb qb need these tiny backs. They can make them last 6 yrs if they limit snaps to 3rd dn.
Who else running a T H A T W A Y and T H A T T Y P E O F G U Y counter ?
Najee is a bigger Kareem hunt
Kareem is wayyyy faster
Without the speed. So apart from the fact they both have two arms, two legs and a head there isn't much in common.
Trey Sermon!? He made Etienne look like a second string back when they faced each other this year.
hopefully this doesn't mean ur saying he's better than etn cuz he's not. etn still had over 90 total yards in a "bad game" and he's a pure consistent back. sermon only showed his part at the end of the year
@@diegodayzz__5520 Sermon only had a handful of games to prove himself. I do think Sermon runs harder than Etn. 100 percent. We will get to see in the NFL. OSU is known for RBs...and he still set the all time record against a great NW Defense this year. Then after clearly deserving the RB 1 he made Clemson look silly too. Btw it was OSUs 1st time beating clemson. Justin was great but we couldnt have established the pass game without Treys threat in the back field.
Just saying he is more special than he was given Credit for. Etn is good but I highly doubt he will be better than Sermon. Unfortuanetly Sermon is at 49ers and its a shared RB roll.
@@MrAaronPink right sermon does run harder cuz he's bigger than etn but doesn't mean he's better, etn has 3 full proved years of pure consistency unlike sermon. You can say sermon runs harder but i can say etn runs better routes, catches better, is WAY faster, forces as many miss tackles or maybe even more, and he's way quicker. And btw sermon did not set the all time record against northwestern ik for fact jaret patterson, melvin gordon, and samaje perine have had 400+ yds game
@@diegodayzz__5520 all time for OSU buddy. You have your opinion I have mine. We shut Etn down. And Sermon was a beast vs you guys. Maybe Etn should switch to WR since his route running is so great.
@@MrAaronPink bruh this is like saying cmc should switch to receiver even tho he clearly can do both, run and catch aswell as Etn🤦♂️ its just a plus that you add to your game, makes you more useful and versatile as a player and nfl offenses love that. Also im not a clemson fan lmao so i ain't even biased bout this and its funny how you guys "shut down" etn yet he still has 90+ yards in his "down game".