This is why we need a new mode, they can call it “danger room” in it you can test any type of match be it war buff, Dark dimension, raid or whatever and in that mode we can test characters at whatever level or ability level so we can see if we actually like that character for a dark dimension or if we want to build them up for war etc. If we had something like this I would have built spider society up the first time for DD7 and not Robbie and random sin sister 6 members just as an example
There I was, plugging along like a normal person with some efficient and logical DD7 picks., based on what resources I had and what would be needed. Got through the first few Open nodes and City relatively quickly with Apoc, SuS, BK, Robbie, Vulture, Peter, Noir, and Ghost-Spider. Had Black Knight, Iron Patriot, and Namor at g19 for Global. Then, the Irish Whiskey got to me in a weak moment. Instead of waiting for Leader and a good Global 5th, I decided it would be fun and clever to take BP Shuri and Hank to g19, because impatience and dopamine don't mix well with Jameson. Now, I'm in Global Hell, making tiny small steps to escape it every day. I suppose it's kinda ok, because I wisely held off on spending any Cosmic Crimson gear, then Annihilators dropped, so by the time I finish Global, I should be well into getting Gladiator, Gorr, and New Thanos built for Cosmic (along with CGR and Kang). Waiting sucks, but I also appreciate the puzzle and the resource discipline. :)
Mythic section: Unless you are a kraken, whale, or dolphin and have actually put reds and diamonds on Doom, he really doesn't do anything. I literally got to use his Time Platform once on each node (across 13 total attacks). Kestrel, same. It was 100% the Apoc/SuS show... take whomever you can gear up or use in other modes for the other 2 members IMO.
I absolutely hated Doom in DD6. He fit in my plans gear wise, but he felt useless. Sure his Time Platform is a great skill, but in-between that he would build up a bunch of bots that would usually die from AOE right before his special cooldown was up, then as my other guys were getting low, his Time Platform would finally be coming off cooldown again and he would die right before his turn. And that when he didn't just flat out die right after his ult and then not even gain energy for the next hit/node. He never seemed to have an impactful turn after his ult on any node.
No sure how the arena meta will ultimately shake out, but I am currently using OML, Mephisto, Gladiator, Apoc, and Ultimus to beat the similar team that uses the same except with SuS. Ultimus is legit.
I just did some dd7 planning last night and came to mostly the same conclusions. The best part is that unlike some of the old dd's when you built up individual characters, this gives you full teams. Have 4/5 spider society, full cabal, key pieces of out of time -> all basically needed at lvl 100 g18+ for old mana logan unlock anyways so they all double dip. And then on top of unlocking like the 2/3 best legendary in the game, you also add the meta arena team and the key members of secret defenders who are still excellent. Theres so little waste in these toons Xtreme/Hive mind both feel way to restrictive to build up to gl 19 for the first run, if they really are the solution to the next raid (which they could be) then I could see building them up with the rewards. Other than the obv choices like sus or apoc, I'm just gonna get all the red gear and horde it until I'm ready to go in. We have a future legendary upcoming which illuminati has already been confirmed to be a requirement for, and also dd8. So I think just double dipping in as many requirements as possible between oml, dd7, new legendary and dd8 is the way to go
City - I took Pav, Peni, Robbie, Vulture and Firestar. Vulture and Firestar are cheap and core damage dealers in crucible. Took 4 attacks to clear - 1 refresh and overnight. No regrets.
I have already done Vahl because I didn't want to put levels into the other BiFrost so just pushed them up as high as I could. I have not built NC, building up OML first because he is almost more key in the inc raids right now and in CC since I just have NC on defense. I am stuck waiting on all those skill pieces for SpS to continue in city, but it's fine, I have no problem waiting. Currently building up Leader and Iron Patriot as my bio and tech, after OML, Ill be building Namor as the mutant gear comes in. I do kind of wish I had not built Doom so early, but I use him more than Dorm and Kestrel (or is more integral to winning a battle anyways than the other two). I will actually be taking Ultimus over Kestrel as my 4th though and skipping Kestrel.
i took ultimus, highly recommend, he performed in dd7. More importantly tho he performs in arena (currently), war, CC, and will defo be useful in tower
Would orchis be a viable choice for global, and who would you have in place of Omega sentinel and Nimrod? For cosmic wouldn’t Vhal’s constantly giving enemies exposed work in tandem with Endgame Thanos?
Hey dorky dad what a perfect video! Thank you for the help I just unlocked apoc so I wanted to see guides for dd6 and dd7 and everything makes sense to me but I just wanted to ask is void knight not better than cosmic ghost rider in dd7? I didn’t hear you mention him and considering knull is coming out wouldn’t he be helpful? But if it’s because he’s bio or his unique I get it then.
Yea he’s a more expensive bio character and he is also mostly kit based. His damage doesn’t scale all that great from g19. Where as cosmic ghost rider gets a huge damage bump
As far as Legendary goes, Goblin didnt do much for me in DD7. OML and Black Cat were the allstars. I had a bunch of mutant gear, so i brought Pheonix, and she was actually way better than i expected. My last character was Red Hulk since i had extra bio gear, but he barely did anything.
Im confused on global as i plan on taking cabal+bk and both valh and thanos for cosmic and i have 21 osmium saved up so far and dont wanna bring nightcrawler in but ive heard cabal suck without nightcrawler so any suggestions?
@@DorkyDadMSF I got Northstar upto 100, was planning on alpha flight 3 with black knight and namor but heard alpha flight take a lot more hits compared to cabal
I’m the complete opposite, Iv got loads of uniques it the minis I’m struggling to get every time I open orbs I get mystic, same with shop always mystic 😢
He is great in The mode itself. But I outside of Dark Dimension really his only use is in War. So if you have WX. Built and you use them regularly then he’s a great option. Otherwise I personally get more value from rogue on like War D
Yea then the other 2 won’t even matter tbh. Cosmic is super easy. You’re likely to 1 shot both nodes with those 3 to start. Take who is either the easiest via gear, or the best characters you like to use outside dd7 that you have the gear for without hurting future sections
Nope definitely applies to dd6 too. The only thing I would add for dd6 is that you’ll want to g18 your xtreme anyway for raids so you can bring them in instead of cabal just to save a bit of time!
This is why we need a new mode, they can call it “danger room” in it you can test any type of match be it war buff, Dark dimension, raid or whatever and in that mode we can test characters at whatever level or ability level so we can see if we actually like that character for a dark dimension or if we want to build them up for war etc. If we had something like this I would have built spider society up the first time for DD7 and not Robbie and random sin sister 6 members just as an example
Or just wait for the whales
Spider society rocks
There I was, plugging along like a normal person with some efficient and logical DD7 picks., based on what resources I had and what would be needed.
Got through the first few Open nodes and City relatively quickly with Apoc, SuS, BK, Robbie, Vulture, Peter, Noir, and Ghost-Spider.
Had Black Knight, Iron Patriot, and Namor at g19 for Global.
Then, the Irish Whiskey got to me in a weak moment. Instead of waiting for Leader and a good Global 5th, I decided it would be fun and clever to take BP Shuri and Hank to g19, because impatience and dopamine don't mix well with Jameson.
Now, I'm in Global Hell, making tiny small steps to escape it every day.
I suppose it's kinda ok, because I wisely held off on spending any Cosmic Crimson gear, then Annihilators dropped, so by the time I finish Global, I should be well into getting Gladiator, Gorr, and New Thanos built for Cosmic (along with CGR and Kang).
Waiting sucks, but I also appreciate the puzzle and the resource discipline. :)
Mythic section: Unless you are a kraken, whale, or dolphin and have actually put reds and diamonds on Doom, he really doesn't do anything. I literally got to use his Time Platform once on each node (across 13 total attacks). Kestrel, same.
It was 100% the Apoc/SuS show... take whomever you can gear up or use in other modes for the other 2 members IMO.
Same for me. kestrel and doom were pretty much useless
I absolutely hated Doom in DD6. He fit in my plans gear wise, but he felt useless. Sure his Time Platform is a great skill, but in-between that he would build up a bunch of bots that would usually die from AOE right before his special cooldown was up, then as my other guys were getting low, his Time Platform would finally be coming off cooldown again and he would die right before his turn. And that when he didn't just flat out die right after his ult and then not even gain energy for the next hit/node. He never seemed to have an impactful turn after his ult on any node.
Love your videos and have watching you since you started! Your content is great and we definitely appreciate you doing what you do. Thanks!
No sure how the arena meta will ultimately shake out, but I am currently using OML, Mephisto, Gladiator, Apoc, and Ultimus to beat the similar team that uses the same except with SuS. Ultimus is legit.
thank you for explaining ur choices
Would personally love a video going through each DD teams
I just did some dd7 planning last night and came to mostly the same conclusions. The best part is that unlike some of the old dd's when you built up individual characters, this gives you full teams. Have 4/5 spider society, full cabal, key pieces of out of time -> all basically needed at lvl 100 g18+ for old mana logan unlock anyways so they all double dip. And then on top of unlocking like the 2/3 best legendary in the game, you also add the meta arena team and the key members of secret defenders who are still excellent. Theres so little waste in these toons
Xtreme/Hive mind both feel way to restrictive to build up to gl 19 for the first run, if they really are the solution to the next raid (which they could be) then I could see building them up with the rewards.
Other than the obv choices like sus or apoc, I'm just gonna get all the red gear and horde it until I'm ready to go in. We have a future legendary upcoming which illuminati has already been confirmed to be a requirement for, and also dd8. So I think just double dipping in as many requirements as possible between oml, dd7, new legendary and dd8 is the way to go
City - I took Pav, Peni, Robbie, Vulture and Firestar.
Vulture and Firestar are cheap and core damage dealers in crucible.
Took 4 attacks to clear - 1 refresh and overnight.
No regrets.
Please what’s the title of the song from 14:56
🎉🎉 thanks for the video
I have already done Vahl because I didn't want to put levels into the other BiFrost so just pushed them up as high as I could. I have not built NC, building up OML first because he is almost more key in the inc raids right now and in CC since I just have NC on defense. I am stuck waiting on all those skill pieces for SpS to continue in city, but it's fine, I have no problem waiting. Currently building up Leader and Iron Patriot as my bio and tech, after OML, Ill be building Namor as the mutant gear comes in. I do kind of wish I had not built Doom so early, but I use him more than Dorm and Kestrel (or is more integral to winning a battle anyways than the other two). I will actually be taking Ultimus over Kestrel as my 4th though and skipping Kestrel.
Just finished my 2nd run in dd6 so I’m gonna take this advice. I’ve been saving gear so hopefully it’ll pay off
i took ultimus, highly recommend, he performed in dd7. More importantly tho he performs in arena (currently), war, CC, and will defo be useful in tower
Good to hear! I was worried he’d be useless in DD7 and it’d take forever. How many attacks did the Mythic nodes take with him?
Would it be good to replace Robbie and Noir in city node for Blade and Oath even tho they are low stars (4-5*) ?
I hear that doesn’t work out that well sadly
@@DorkyDadMSF Good to know !
Would orchis be a viable choice for global, and who would you have in place of Omega sentinel and Nimrod?
For cosmic wouldn’t Vhal’s constantly giving enemies exposed work in tandem with Endgame Thanos?
So how do xtreme X-men do on the highest difficulty for orchis raid nodes? Do they still perform ok enough to comfortably clear them with g 19 gear?
Yea with OML over cyclops they sim the nodes at g 18
Hey dorky dad what a perfect video! Thank you for the help I just unlocked apoc so I wanted to see guides for dd6 and dd7 and everything makes sense to me but I just wanted to ask is void knight not better than cosmic ghost rider in dd7? I didn’t hear you mention him and considering knull is coming out wouldn’t he be helpful? But if it’s because he’s bio or his unique I get it then.
Yea he’s a more expensive bio character and he is also mostly kit based. His damage doesn’t scale all that great from g19. Where as cosmic ghost rider gets a huge damage bump
For annihilators in dd7 what’s min star level
As far as Legendary goes, Goblin didnt do much for me in DD7. OML and Black Cat were the allstars. I had a bunch of mutant gear, so i brought Pheonix, and she was actually way better than i expected. My last character was Red Hulk since i had extra bio gear, but he barely did anything.
Im confused on global as i plan on taking cabal+bk and both valh and thanos for cosmic and i have 21 osmium saved up so far and dont wanna bring nightcrawler in but ive heard cabal suck without nightcrawler so any suggestions?
I would be very concerned with taking cabal in and not NC to help get them rolling. Who were you thinking as the 5th for global?
@@DorkyDadMSF I got Northstar upto 100, was planning on alpha flight 3 with black knight and namor but heard alpha flight take a lot more hits compared to cabal
I’m the complete opposite, Iv got loads of uniques it the minis I’m struggling to get every time I open orbs I get mystic, same with shop always mystic 😢
Why is the pym tech characters as a team not good for dark dimension when there passive mention dimension
I know it’s mutant gear, but no Omega Red for legendary? Brought him to DD6 and heard good things about him
He is great in The mode itself. But I outside of Dark Dimension really his only use is in War. So if you have WX. Built and you use them regularly then he’s a great option. Otherwise I personally get more value from rogue on like War D
Would Ares be a good character to take to dd7?
Sadly, no. Maybe different once you get him up to high stars, but at lower stars even at GT19 he sucks in DD7.😊
Hey dorky, which non-horsemen legends does would you recommend for DD6?
Old man Logan, GGC, doc, black cat, and nova was my group!
I dont have nova very high could omega red be a good replacement for nova
@@justinshaw8189 Yes, OR is good in dd6
I just couldn’t decide between black bolt or nova, thanks for the help!
Great video, is a built up Ares worth it with Cabel, I need to justify my buying of the passes lol, thanks
Only in war. Ares is mediocre in everything else. His whole kit is about war
@@marksylvain2839 I’ve heard he performs extremely poorly ;(
So who is the 5th Mythic ?
What does the 90/90, 54/54 mean?
Mini uniques
THANKS
Just beat a 2 mill hive mind easy in CC with a 1.5 NW. Death pool is worth building IMO. Thanks for this as always.
I am getting ready to enter cosmic and not buying the new characters so any suggestions . Taking Kang Vahl and cosmic Ghost Rider ?
Yea then the other 2 won’t even matter tbh. Cosmic is super easy. You’re likely to 1 shot both nodes with those 3 to start. Take who is either the easiest via gear, or the best characters you like to use outside dd7 that you have the gear for without hurting future sections
I usually just wait to upgrade because they usually release way better answers by the time I have whatever is current meta upgraded
Is there any reason this wouldn't apply to dd6?
Nope definitely applies to dd6 too. The only thing I would add for dd6 is that you’ll want to g18 your xtreme anyway for raids so you can bring them in instead of cabal just to save a bit of time!
And here I am trying to build my shit for dd4😂
that is a ton of bio. sounds good, but there's going to be a bio wall (that's also taking bio gear from the arena meta). oof.
Thx❤❤
Taking illuminati makes annihilators super gear friendly imo
I brought in my omega red at two diamond and he was more useful than black cat only at 7red.
City I took the 3pc Nightstalkers and penny and peter b
How high was your 3pc nightstalkers team.
@darrenshaw4714 max t4s blade is 6-6, oath is 5-5, mk was 2 diamond and 1 t4 on his alt
Augmented Dragonjte??? Are Pokémon coming to MSF? Hope you didn’t break an NDA lol
🕷️Comet
I accidentally upgraded Northstar to G19 😭😩
Gorr coming so better build anti venom red goblin, void and Gwenom or maybe even agent venom
Omega Red still plays way better than Rogue in DD7, btw.
CB, Hank, And Shuri were very good in 7.
The sustain is crazy
Do you feel like Shuri was worth it? Did you bring BK and Nightcrawler with them? Curious if they could one shot either node.
This looks like amazing advice, but not taking Nova? He is the most powerful osmium character. I think I'd just have to sub out another osmium user.
Nightcralwer is important for the speed, N I disagree, Nova is most powerful in war sure but Nightcralwer way more useful in Cc n raids.