The fact you treated these just as you were about to sell them, and I’m sure your bees were pretty “clean” without this treatment says a lot about your character 🙌thanks for the video
I agree! Everyone should be this way! Bob cares about the way poeple veiw his outfit! He's got a reputation to uphold! We need more poeple like Bob in this world!
We have completed our OAV two weeks ago in western Massachusetts. Using similar techniques and equipment. Thank you for sharing this information. Merry Christmas to you and your crew!
We keep learning more good stuff on your channel, Thank You! Really like those Oxalic Acid Vaporizers. Something for us to think about as opposed to us using a car battery to lug around! Keep the fun and informative videos coming our way!
Great info Bob, I have watched all your videos, if I am ever in Georgia, I will be visiting your store. Thanks for all the work you do to make these video's
Those units are certainly quick. The larger units recovered quicker, but we also didn’t have the silicon up top the compact so that would make a difference
@@bobbinnie9872 I do prefer the bigger ones, as they seem to be easier on the battaries and they fit better on the entrances that we have. The compact is great going into the tighter spots but it seemed alot less sturdy in the hives, and I found they didnt handle the 12amp batteries very well. Running all three this year worked really well and kept me moving however I prefer to run them so I keep the elements always heating (transferring the vaporizers to another hive as it reaches 220 degrees) to try keep things efficient. With the compact it doesnt tell you its temerature so it took a bit of adapting on my part😅 I have a tendency to overthink and build mental systems on how I think things should go...lol
@@carriemartindale-wetherup5243 I wonder if adding a longer version of the silicon insulator like Sir Bob has on his units - completely covering the heating element would give the extra insulation needed to make the compact unit more efficient in the colder temps? As long as it doesn't interfere with the tube getting far enough into the hive,
As I having Sunday morning coffee with the Appalachian crew I had to chuckle. Watching the waltzing from hive to hive in the vapor , no mites on the help..
Hello Bob. I finished my first round of AO yesterday. I’m gonna do another treatment in a couple of weeks. I also think some of the colonies have a little bit of brood. Weather permitting I’ll see y’all in 32 days.
The simplest way I found to clean the nozzles on my vaporizers is to point the nozzle toward the ground ,then I use my small butane torch (my smoker lighter) to heat the nozzle...the OA slides out like a slug in seconds...no fuss no muss. And on occasion a small cheap SS wire brush around the inside does the rest.
It’s all I use I faithfully hit them every week as soon as I take my honey mid August and then I hit them every 5 days until mid of December and I have had great luck so fair in the years I have done it and bees don’t miss a beat
Used mine today. Dec. 1st. Temperature was 4c in St. Stephen, New Brunswick, Canada. I have dewalt tools so use AH 5, 18 volt batteries. It took me 3 batteries to do 39 hives. I thought the slow blinking was the unit reheating to treatment temperature.
Good morning mr bob Binnie at what temperature does the machine work. I'm from Greece and for the last 3 years I've only been using sublimation as a treatmen.
If they’re clustered together at this time of year and in this weather/temperature, do you think the OAV penetrates the cluster for full efficacy. You answered my question as I was typing it! LOL THANKS again for great videos and info.
What I intended to do is to extend the brass fitting almost 4 inches. I noticed that the vapor is coming out from the inside and extending the fitting makes sense to me. Let me know if you consider this being a good idea. Have a blessed day Bob. God bless your team and because we approach the holidays I will say Happy Holidays to everyone.
An extended tube may help. It has pipe threads on the end and perhaps a longer one could be found. As far as vapors coming out, the box is very full when done with it coming out of all cracks if there are any. When we have rags installed most of it stays in.
I extended mine about two inches and I found that I had more issues with clogs. I don’t know if it cooled down too much coming out or what but it definitely caused issues.
@ I appreciate your help Andrew. I’m going to think about it before I will change anything. I don’t like the cloud of OA. As you see watching BB s video is noticeably a lot of vapor. Reducing the dosage is something I consider doing in my apiary. Thank you.
Hi Bob, I have a question that may seem strange. Has anyone who wax dips their boxes attempted to mix OA with the solution so the boxes are 'OA dipped' as well? Would this work as an extended release? Thank you.
@@bobbinnie9872 Bob I got one more question to your knowledge does acid ever go bad? I had some left over from last year and it did not seem to work as well as fresh acid
Given the size of your operation, I understand the need to buy OA in bulk. Those of us small scale beekeepers have been told for years only certain EPA approved suppliers are permitted to sell OA for mite treatment. Is your supplier one of those companies? If so, do they a minimum order requirement?
Hi Bob, Could you confirm if you are using 99.7 % as pure oxalic acid or 99.7 purity as oxalic dihydrate? The first bags you showed were just labeled oxalic acid and the last bag showed oxalic acid dihydrate. My understanding is that the literature which suggests using 4 grams is based on using 4 grams as the dihydrate ( wood bleach) form which is 30 % greater in Molecular weight than oxalic acid ( less concentrated because it has two stable water molecules attached but still pure) . So 4 gm dose of pure oxalic acid would be 5.2 gms dose of oxalic acid dihydrate . Thanks for your videos. Love watching every Sunday.
They're a lot easier to use without the extension cords our other units need. It's especially helpful in yards with a lot of obstacles for cords to catch on.
@bobbinnie9872 I get the obstacles part for sure. We put inverters in every truck and just run the cords out to the furthest hive and work back towards the truck. But I have the luxury of being more selective about the bee yards that I take giving me the ability to place hives on level ground in rows so the trucks can drive between them.
2 or 4 grams blowing away in the wind makes no difference. Follow up with counts or sticky boards, and the results will speak for itself. My testing shows the entrance needs to be left closed for 10 minutes. I have to do it efficiently the first time. I keep 500 colonies by myself, meaning I can't go back 3 more times to get it right. That same size bag made in China is $127 canadian with Trudeau's economy.
Is that the dihydrate OA or no? Theres 2 types of the stuff and im scared to go to a chemical company bc im worried ill ask for/get the wrong type of stuff lol. I eorry they will be like "ahhh he dunno the difference so who cares" but i will care and so will my bees lol
Oxalic acid vapors are very dangerous for health including eyes and lungs, and also is a corrosive chemical and your employees are at risk is just an observation that I felt compelled to report
The fact you treated these just as you were about to sell them, and I’m sure your bees were pretty “clean” without this treatment says a lot about your character 🙌thanks for the video
I agree! Everyone should be this way! Bob cares about the way poeple veiw his outfit! He's got a reputation to uphold! We need more poeple like Bob in this world!
We have completed our OAV two weeks ago in western Massachusetts. Using similar techniques and equipment.
Thank you for sharing this information. Merry Christmas to you and your crew!
Merry Christmas!
We keep learning more good stuff on your channel, Thank You! Really like those Oxalic Acid Vaporizers. Something for us to think about as opposed to us using a car battery to lug around! Keep the fun and informative videos coming our way!
Thanks Bob for an other great video! I always look forward to your Sunday morning 7am post. Lol keep them coming.
We made that bend in our copper tube as well. Works much better.
Thankyou, Mr. Binnie. Grandpa is looking at the portable units now.
Nice to see the Full face masks .
Your lungs and eyes are protected fr acid burns 🔥 well done
Great info Bob, I have watched all your videos, if I am ever in Georgia, I will be visiting your store. Thanks for all the work you do to make these video's
Good morning, Bob and crew! Great information!
Good morning!
Thank you for your truthful video and advice and your ability to over look the hate mail to bring us more great content!
Thank you. All good. 👍
Very nicely equipped. Happy and happy holidays to everyone. Greetings from Switzerland/Bruno
Those units are certainly quick.
The larger units recovered quicker, but we also didn’t have the silicon up top the compact so that would make a difference
Am I remembering correctly that Carrie likes the larger unit? If so what was the reason?
@ yes, she mentioned that. They also positioned better as the units were placed when using the heavy 12amp battery
@@bobbinnie9872 I do prefer the bigger ones, as they seem to be easier on the battaries and they fit better on the entrances that we have. The compact is great going into the tighter spots but it seemed alot less sturdy in the hives, and I found they didnt handle the 12amp batteries very well.
Running all three this year worked really well and kept me moving however I prefer to run them so I keep the elements always heating (transferring the vaporizers to another hive as it reaches 220 degrees) to try keep things efficient. With the compact it doesnt tell you its temerature so it took a bit of adapting on my part😅
I have a tendency to overthink and build mental systems on how I think things should go...lol
@@carriemartindale-wetherup5243 I wonder if adding a longer version of the silicon insulator like Sir Bob has on his units - completely covering the heating element would give the extra insulation needed to make the compact unit more efficient in the colder temps?
As long as it doesn't interfere with the tube getting far enough into the hive,
Sweet set up for sure!
Hi sir Bob. That's a good look👍👍👍👍👍👍🏃❤️🙏
As I having Sunday morning coffee with the Appalachian crew I had to chuckle. Watching the waltzing from hive to hive in the vapor , no mites on the help..
Thanks a lot for the detailed information. Very helpful.
Good morning Bob and crew. Thank you for sharing. I think the compacts vap or a little faster than the larger one.
Good morning BRHC, been waiting this morning.
Good morning.
Hola Bob yo también curó con ácido oxálico pero con tiras está bueno cómo cura usted 👏👏🐝👌
Hello Bob. I finished my first round of AO yesterday. I’m gonna do another treatment in a couple of weeks. I also think some of the colonies have a little bit of brood. Weather permitting I’ll see y’all in 32 days.
The simplest way I found to clean the nozzles on my vaporizers is to point the nozzle toward the ground ,then I use my small butane torch (my smoker lighter) to heat the nozzle...the OA slides out like a slug in seconds...no fuss no muss. And on occasion a small cheap SS wire brush around the inside does the rest.
It’s all I use I faithfully hit them every week as soon as I take my honey mid August and then I hit them every 5 days until mid of December and I have had great luck so fair in the years I have done it and bees don’t miss a beat
My Sunday routine: wake up, get the kids some breakfast, drink a gallon or two of coffee, watch Bob’s video.
Hi Andrew. Say hi to your dad and uncle for me.
Thank you for the video. Please tell me when there will be a beekeeping exhibition in America in 2025 and in which city.?
Good Morning Bob !
Good morning sir!
Used mine today. Dec. 1st. Temperature was 4c in St. Stephen, New Brunswick, Canada. I have dewalt tools so use AH 5, 18 volt batteries. It took me 3 batteries to do 39 hives.
I thought the slow blinking was the unit reheating to treatment temperature.
Bob, Thank you for this video and the explanations. If you se 3 gms on a single deep, would you use 6 gms on a double deep?
Yes, 6 or perhaps 7.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you. Merry Christmas.
@@jimhegarty9561 Merry Christmas!
Good morning mr bob Binnie at what temperature does the machine work. I'm from Greece and for the last 3 years I've only been using sublimation as a treatmen.
It works well when the temperature ranges between 40°f and 50°f. 45° is best.
machine ?
If they’re clustered together at this time of year and in this weather/temperature, do you think the OAV penetrates the cluster for full efficacy. You answered my question as I was typing it! LOL THANKS again for great videos and info.
Heeey bob always pleasure to watch your videos. Can you provide the link for the vaporizer. Thank you
Im confused. 17 degrees and you have brood. Here in California lowest we get is 32 and not even at 40 we get brood. What’s your secret?
It's brood from the previous week or two. We just had some unseasonably warm weather with a little pollen coming in.
What I intended to do is to extend the brass fitting almost 4 inches. I noticed that the vapor is coming out from the inside and extending the fitting makes sense to me. Let me know if you consider this being a good idea. Have a blessed day Bob. God bless your team and because we approach the holidays I will say Happy Holidays to everyone.
An extended tube may help. It has pipe threads on the end and perhaps a longer one could be found. As far as vapors coming out, the box is very full when done with it coming out of all cracks if there are any. When we have rags installed most of it stays in.
I extended mine about two inches and I found that I had more issues with clogs. I don’t know if it cooled down too much coming out or what but it definitely caused issues.
@ in this case the dosage should be less. The idea is that the treatment should remain effective using low dose of OA. Ps. My personal opinion.
@ I appreciate your help Andrew. I’m going to think about it before I will change anything. I don’t like the cloud of OA. As you see watching BB s video is noticeably a lot of vapor. Reducing the dosage is something I consider doing in my apiary. Thank you.
@@steliandone4078 The cloud is much less when we include rags at the entrance.
That is my fvorite temperature to do this work. I figure the heat of the vapor will cause the cluster to loosen.
Hi Bob, I have a question that may seem strange. Has anyone who wax dips their boxes attempted to mix OA with the solution so the boxes are 'OA dipped' as well? Would this work as an extended release? Thank you.
Interesting question. I've not heard of anyone trying this.
I like the bend idea how did you bend it?
We clamped it in a vise and used the box end of a wrench to bend it.
Thanks for the information..
@@bobbinnie9872
Bob I got one more question to your knowledge does acid ever go bad? I had some left over from last year and it did not seem to work as well as fresh acid
@@NevadaBeeMan-nq3po I'm not sure. We have used stuff that was one season old and it seemed to work good.
@@bobbinnie9872 thank you !
Given the size of your operation, I understand the need to buy OA in bulk. Those of us small scale beekeepers have been told for years only certain EPA approved suppliers are permitted to sell OA for mite treatment. Is your supplier one of those companies? If so, do they a minimum order requirement?
They are not one of those companies.
I noticed they weren't wearing any gloves. Any concern for irritation to skin from the OA vapor?
What is the purpose of the yellow insulators? Thanks
We haven't had problems so far but when they are doing it for an extended period nitrile gloves are worn.
I buy the same bags of OA. Wish mine cost the price yours do lol
Hi Bob,
Could you confirm if you are using 99.7 % as pure oxalic acid or 99.7 purity as oxalic dihydrate? The first bags you showed were just labeled oxalic acid and the last bag showed oxalic acid dihydrate. My understanding is that the literature which suggests using 4 grams is based on using 4 grams as the dihydrate ( wood bleach) form which is 30 % greater in Molecular weight than oxalic acid ( less concentrated because it has two stable water molecules attached but still pure) . So 4 gm dose of pure oxalic acid would be 5.2 gms dose of oxalic acid dihydrate .
Thanks for your videos. Love watching every Sunday.
Oxalic dihydrate is what we were told.
If you are running a generator to charge batteries between yards, what is the purpose of spending so much for batteries and cordless units?
They're a lot easier to use without the extension cords our other units need. It's especially helpful in yards with a lot of obstacles for cords to catch on.
@bobbinnie9872 I get the obstacles part for sure. We put inverters in every truck and just run the cords out to the furthest hive and work back towards the truck. But I have the luxury of being more selective about the bee yards that I take giving me the ability to place hives on level ground in rows so the trucks can drive between them.
2 or 4 grams blowing away in the wind makes no difference. Follow up with counts or sticky boards, and the results will speak for itself. My testing shows the entrance needs to be left closed for 10 minutes. I have to do it efficiently the first time. I keep 500 colonies by myself, meaning I can't go back 3 more times to get it right. That same size bag made in China is $127 canadian with Trudeau's economy.
We have followed up and although the effect is diminished some it still helps a lot. Of course future treatments will have the rags installed.
Good morning Bob,are you gonna use varroxsan in the future?
We will continue to make our own version.
❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
When that OA gets sprayed on a frame, the bees never build on that frame again and found all the product seems to build on them
I have vaporized a box that had 4 drawn frames and 6 foundation frames and they draw it out just fine.
If that was true, OA would never be used Where did you find this information?
4grams per deep?
Yes. In this case two deeps would be 8 grams.
How much for doubles?
I usually don't sell doubles but two years ago I sold 30 for $325.00 each.
@@bobbinnie9872 I'm sorry. I meant how much oxalic acid for doubles?
Is that the dihydrate OA or no? Theres 2 types of the stuff and im scared to go to a chemical company bc im worried ill ask for/get the wrong type of stuff lol. I eorry they will be like "ahhh he dunno the difference so who cares" but i will care and so will my bees lol
Dihydrate.
Holy smokes 😂
Oxalic acid vapors are very dangerous for health including eyes and lungs, and also is a corrosive chemical and your employees are at risk is just an observation that I felt compelled to report
I get 99.9 OA I never seen it 99.6
Dewalt better 😅