It’s a square Nautilus with a round movement costing 30% more. The fact so many people have to defend it is a clear indication the watch is underwhelming and lazy. It’s like a homage from a micro brand, but only Maen got there first. Mark and Horoverse spoke objectively. John, as a watch maker yourself, you should be ashamed of yourself trying to justify why Patek didn’t bother to make a square movement. Perhaps you’re worried about stepping on toes in Switzerland. Grow a backbone son. And Spiral, you honestly think anyone will pay three times over retail for this? You honestly believe Chronos 24? You’ve lost all credibility. Stop being a cheerleader.
The design is disaster. 表帶每節都呈視 curve 而且圓潤感覺. 無情情中罝方形設計, 並感覺扁平. 相當不和諧. 好似兒時火柴盒鐵甲萬能俠卡通感覺. 一間咁龐大的公司, 資源,設計能力,審核過程,市場支持度都係無與論比既情況下, 怎說得過去呢 !!!! ( I hear all those details of the five patented designs, understated diamond detail. I still cannot hold myself to write these comments. Being honest to what I feel. Even I am a fan of Patek Philippe.)
concur .Oh . Looks bad It looks like more eco watch if without the name . Wonder who design & where is GG(great designer)Is all the designer gone /pass-away
Only Mark gave an honest remark in a gentlemanly manner, with good taste too unsurprisingly. 呢集好有趣，係真心話大測試。
香港人UA-camber 絕大部份都不敢,怕被對方列入黑名單,今次隻所謂新錶我問一位戴緊5712 18k外國人感覺如何？他說very ugly ！
易時都ok, 起碼唔係一味讚
感謝spiral 邀請， 榮幸有機會與幾位鐘錶專家及資深收藏家一同分享❤
奇怪作為一位watch maker 會咁樣盲撐PP 呢隻新錶：
1）PP 連啲咁複雜嘅錶都整到，講到整方型甲板好似好艱難咁，其實宜家有曬CAD, CAM/ CNC 幫手
2） 6個專利係最貴嘅鉑金Cubitus 機芯先有。同埋舊機芯可以modified, 唔同意有專利就等於新機芯。
3） 而且呢個有6項專利嘅機芯啲甲板邊全部係弧形冇角位，慳返好多人手打磨嘅時間
Could'nt agree more
見唔到terry sir大概估到咩事😂
gerald genta 見到個設計都彈返起身😂😂
這次Cubitus款式差評多於一切，价錢高，只是給為慕名PP買家的入門版，有錢有品味，會有保留，不是錢問題，是款式品味的演繹。
一般人还是订不到😂。炒价已经上了天。
早幾天上手試戴了三隻Cubitus, 個人總結是:1)男士們應該不用擔心腕錶過大，165mm以上的手腕都是可以驾驭的，2)機身薄，只8.3mm很貼手，配戴很舒適，3)橄榄绿面是目前现行款唯一一隻，4) 金鋼殼是目前现行款唯一一隻，5)𣊬跳大日暦是目前现行款唯一一隻。
個人較喜歡金鋼蓝面和鉑金蓝面。
想要真心話去叫 Terry Sir 評一評就得🤣
琴日評左😂
@yuseto5641 係🤣
Because it is a channel from a magazine, PP is one of the biggest clients of the magazine ... so even some guests'' negative comments were subtle
如果唔係pp，系第啲牌子出你會唔會買？
講真仲醜過mido，唔係pp根本無人買
唔買😂
@@patrickho2012係PP 即使有錢都唔買😂
@@losuk8 起碼有炒家買
最普通和最cheap 的 casio 錶，才會出現呢種造型，所以覺得靚的，我真心佩服大家。
手細載45mm唔覺得大喎，因為佢薄😅. 咁如果我俾隻36mm大但20mm厚嘅比你帶, 你會點形容呢？😅
客觀分析：
冇特色/冇睇頭/水份高
主觀分析：
PP今次主打一啲有錢得嚟冇時間去認識手錶又想靠PP個朵照住既用家市場.
總結：
*）完全五支持買嚟自戴. 十分支持買嚟炒去收割啲有錢五識錶既「精英」
It’s a square Nautilus with a round movement costing 30% more. The fact so many people have to defend it is a clear indication the watch is underwhelming and lazy. It’s like a homage from a micro brand, but only Maen got there first. Mark and Horoverse spoke objectively. John, as a watch maker yourself, you should be ashamed of yourself trying to justify why Patek didn’t bother to make a square movement. Perhaps you’re worried about stepping on toes in Switzerland. Grow a backbone son. And Spiral, you honestly think anyone will pay three times over retail for this? You honestly believe Chronos 24? You’ve lost all credibility. Stop being a cheerleader.
Seiko has made this design in 1970s. SQ
睇到大部分ytber 都唔敢得罪pp😂
PP 就算出隻三角形果果都話靚㗎啦. 我想買呀, 有冇貨先?
PP咪靚，如果係GP咪醜樣，冇人買又跳樓。
GP一早就岀過瞬跳冇框大日曆😂😂
pp 乜嘢都係靚, 因為係pp😂😂
自己都係覺得5711或5811 欵靚得多。
PP宜家有D似秦朝趙高 可以令到好多人不敢不盲撐 其實鍾唔鍾意好主觀 但market個排錶制度 炒錶的利益等等諸多因素 又令到件事已經不是單純評價一款新錶了
個人覺得好簡單 隻錶係真嘅醜 至於John Ng show出來張相 明顯隻手根本戴得突兀 仲話fit？雖然我個人清楚高級機械錶機芯領域一向係將「簡單問題複雜化」但大日曆瞬跳、可以anytime調較日曆等等專利 好「雞肋」 唔好轉移視線啦 6個專利等於可以make a new機芯 咁你做乜唔去做啊 我夠知圓形機芯轉方形機芯有幾難 但你係PP喔 所謂嘅「錶王」喔 咁嘅定價咁嘅排錶制度喔 當然係要用全market最嚴苛的standard去衡量啦
這個新設計師應該係中國深造好多年，感覺同BMW的IX設計師一樣, 幾天才才能設計出這麼一個masterpiece
差評還差評，銷路唔會有問題，只因戴PP係一個碼頭圖腾而己，好不好看單會照買
太大, 太貴, 老實講其實真係幾肉酸！ Santos de Cartier dual time 靚好多
鬼唔知整方形芯要整過好多嘢咩，另睇多兩年可能會唔同感覺，靚就唔駛睇慣先覺得靚啦😆
可能每个人的审美观标准不同，个人认为这个四方型不好看，比起上一款差很多。四方形表还是卡地亚的山度士系列比较美观大方。
真心~好肉酸
離不開Gerald Genta 的框
唔係想得罪，真心覺得難看
先唔講外殼設計，針、面、大三針個機芯同條帶應該都唔係新設計，再講個殼基本上就係nautilus轉方形啲，咁樣都叫新系列真係冇咩誠意，你話機芯係方形就唔同講法。
跟住講size, 複雜功能嗰隻大啲都算，大三針都唔做細啲？定PP覺得自己可以靠呢隻錶逆流興返大錶？PP或者得嘅，但我覺得唔係呢隻囉。錶王都交啲咁嘅功課，唔係去學勞力士呀？🙈
PP做炒款 佢點做你地都搶 一大品牌不停複製自己 代表等下一個品牌黎取代佢
道理等同 油汽車傳統大廠 一被電動車廠攻估市場 唔單止單被人搶 最後自己都要做電動車
一開始話唔做幾間 全部都做
金成真係見人講人話,見鬼講鬼話,從來未見過佢係媒體批評任何錶
過去了廿幾年時間再出新款，緊係都要帶領潮流。另外，取貨來賣獲利，反映真係好喜歡隻錶😂
The design is disaster. 表帶每節都呈視 curve 而且圓潤感覺. 無情情中罝方形設計, 並感覺扁平. 相當不和諧. 好似兒時火柴盒鐵甲萬能俠卡通感覺. 一間咁龐大的公司, 資源,設計能力,審核過程,市場支持度都係無與論比既情況下, 怎說得過去呢 !!!!
( I hear all those details of the five patented designs, understated diamond detail. I still cannot hold myself to write these comments. Being honest to what I feel. Even I am a fan of Patek Philippe.)
Just think that it is not right to have a round movement in a square watch. 😊
貴咪靚囉，呢隻令我諗起maen哥隻manhattan，tag Heuer Monaco
還是戴回5800/1a，5167a，5905，7234r算了。😂😂
一開波話幾靚，段片就話有啲人會話幾靚😂嚇一嚇⋯
有John哥喎😏
高sir 講的masterlink還比較好看😅😅😅
45mm 帶到😂，好似...😅
唔好睇囉！
nautilus 靚好多
我覺得方型錶不一定需要搭載方型機芯, 但是, 為啥不是採用方型指針呢? 而是套用Nautilus 的指針呢? Cubitus 以它要求的公價來說真的有很多做不到位的地方排除主觀審美偏見. 你向客人要那麼多錢, Patek 你品牌自己為什麼不多用點心思呢? 我個人認為歷年來那麼多有錢人盲目的支持Patek, 讓他們覺得有錢人的錢太好賺了不需要像以前照顧客人那樣用心. 我簡單拿了個鋼錶就可以賺你們金錶的價格. 不是嗎? 有錢人可以支持你們喜歡的品牌, 但是別讓品牌當你是凱子耍.
PP話佢好，片有個達人講比大家知主因係價格, 市場上繼續想推成為投資品
至於專利, 係個別技術係獨立開發再放一齊，而避開方肉除咗圓肉可以係將來其他錶用，最最重要係令自己+代工廠減少模具，減少製件及組裝上，加快生產
其他大廠機芯設計好多都有專利技術或保護功能，而無同消費者講
一請易時又黎sell佢自己d錶，好悶
除咗Mark, 個個都係吹捧個品牌
易時都ok, 無吹捧既
所以一早無睇嗰班，刷鞋仔真係搞唔掂
concur .Oh . Looks bad It looks like more eco watch if without the name . Wonder who design & where is GG(great designer)Is all the designer gone /pass-away
The watch is way too big for your wrist size. 😀
行動實際過口講。 咁多人咁快放隻錶出嚟賺錢就知道佢哋有幾鐘意隻錶😅
錶殼唔靚⋯⋯冇誠意！但仲興緊，大把人追！
It looks like maen but maen looks better😅
Ugly 😮😢
錶王都有死貨
要計較就不會買新錶啦。
Spiral is such as sell out
又又係保P黨嘅宣文
好肉酸
Looks cheap
錶王甩轆，老土到暈,廟街貨👎
核突到嘔
Casio, hahhahaha
方形錶抄智能手錶