Never played KH so the Sora novelty is semi lost on me, but I just love watching Kameme play. Him being the only top top Megaman for the longest time just had me love seeing him. I was so hyped when he got the first ko game 3 vs light. imagine if he brought it to game 5?
Picked em up the very first day he came out & till these day I haven’t put him down. I’m 1 of the few Soras that will knock out most players in elite. More win ratio than lose ratio. I’m glad someone is showing his potential cause he is a great character.
As a sora main, Sora really isn't a bad character. He's just honest, but he's also a character that takes a lot of time to learn the ins and outs, I mean, a combo-swordfighter-whiff-punisher character is really hard to get a hold of at first, but this goes for both playing as, and playing against him. He has IDJ shit, which makes him much more consistent, and while his gravity is his biggest downside, it also helps when it comes to off-stage play, both in advantage and disadvantage. Sora is also a glass cannon, which is an inherently difficult-to-learn character archetype. And like I said before, he's surprisingly fundy-based. Sora could be a top 5 character in the right hands, he's just difficult to get right. I hope after this, people take sora up more and show off what he can do so people can accept sora's place in the meta. HE'S WORTH THE TIME INVESTMENT, TRUST ME, HE'S SOOOOO MUCH FUN
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm a Sora secondary and I do not regret picking him up and grinding him. This kid deserves to have more players open up to him.
10:25 individual player skill is very very underappreciated in Smash. People act like Smash is super matchup based, but 90% of situations you see in competitive play are variations on situations enabled by universal mechanics. It's very similar to a game like KoF as opposed to more knowledge check based games like Tekken or Blazblue. Of course there are still some knowledge check characters and situations, but for the most part it's less about the characters and more about who is better at using universal mechanics.
Player skill is part of their MU knowledge so that question made no sense to me. Like, fundies alone is not player skill, your match-up knowledge is included in player skill. That's like a huge part of getting better, learning your MUs.
I agree but the problem with what your saying is that a lot of characters could reach diff hieghts, hit diff angles, are faster or slower then others, lighter and heavier, combos change dependent on character because of weight and size and even drift or frame 1 options/ out of shield options/ recoveries/ kill percents
That’s one thing I don’t like about Tweek’s and Charles’ approach to the game. I listen to a lot of Tweek Talks and they’re constantly talking about what characters Tweek should consider in the current metagame and foreseeable future. Matchups are important but Tweek is also just godlike and I want him to play against the player more often instead of the character. I respect his idea to play consistent and limit the amount of guesswork but I think he has the ability to pick spots and blow his opponent up for habits more
I feel like if you combine Sora's smash ult recovery with the ssf2 aerials and neutral b, he could easily be top tier. I just wished they implemented form change.
9:11 "Why are you shaking your head bro? You won" Said the guy who did shake his head and also throw his controller at the table after winning against an Incineroar lol
The most DLC thing about Sora would either be his recovery or his counter Recovery: A really high second jump, an up b as high as links, and can act out of side b after?! Not necessarily broken, but really good Counter: YOU ARE LITERALLY STOPPED IN PLACE
Sora in Smash is just like KH1 Sora. Where the gameplan is more of a pick your moments kinda gameplay around a fun combat character Kameme and Unleashed both his the mentality of night trying to do alot and just get in what they know works without overdoing it Regardless Sora's fun as hell and I can't wait to see more of him
I feel like he was trying to be “the nice guy,” due to jake constantly getting hate on twitter (for malding/complaining). Jake is the most hated of the Steve’s im sure of it
Sora, Marth, Lucina, Cloud, Sephiroth, Palutena, Robin, Hero, Fox, and Corrin are either winning or even. Even then, I've seen other top players beat top Steves with other characters that were supposed to be "bad" for the MU. Steve doesn't destroy the game lol.
nahhh at this point Sora is not mid. this character has so much bs to be a mid tier, he’s somewhere in high tier for sure, Tweek and Kameme both think the character is top 20. Idk about definitively, but if Kameme does well at The Big House coming up soon and Sora places high there will be no doubt he is a very solid high tier, possible low top tier
@@JosephJohns-xi1qb its just possibly and only my opinion, I always thought Sora was at least high tier. Mostly bc Big House has a ton of other top players with top tier characters coming and if Kameme pulls off a good result again in NA here it could make some waves for Sora. And its not just 2 tournaments he has placed pretty well in JP throughout the whole year and is crazy good with the character, seeing how he holds up against NA players might be a good opportunity for others and myself to see some of Sora’s potential
@@splish_2 See it maybe, but JP and is pretty much overall the strongest region. That combined with so few people knowing how to fight a good Sora over here might not make the results mean quite as much in NA. Plus, if it's just him having break out success, then how do you know it's not a Leo situation? Remember, this is a game where in the same tournament, two Little Mac players made top 32 and a Dr. Mario player got like third. Those are extremes, but you can be middle of the road and still do well.
"How do you know it's not a Leo situation" Because he's not Leo????? He beat Leo once with Me a man sure, but if he's investing time into a "mid tier" then he wouldn't be placing 2nd right off the bat at a huge tournameny when he steps into NA lmao
I think Sora's most DLC aspect is his ability to drift and cancel with his multi hit arials. I just think that because Bayo has something similar, Sakuri didn't want another Bayo situation with ToD out the wazoo.
I’ve been playing sora since he care out and I have to say, whilst the character definitely has flaws, he has great strengths and a really unique and fun play style. For me he’s probably a high tier character.
Those 2 and Sora being light as a feather too But he has these as strengths: -A good projectile that can combo (Firaga) -A move that covers so much space (Thundaga) -A move that either deletes shield or shield pokes (Blizzaga) -Good AF aerials that do solid damage -Counter that straight up stops everything -Nair is absurd (combos into everything) -Floaty disjointed attacks
Glad to finally see a Sora in competitive. I don't know why people don't know how to use him. He's a pretty fun character overall. Maybe it's because I love Kingdom Hearts that I was able to sit down get to know Sora, but I mean, honestly he shouldn't have switched to Megan Man. If he would have stayed as Sora, he probably would have won the Tournament. Matchup is a little important, but I feel like in the end, players skill is definitely more important, which is why we always get moments like this where unexpected characters start winning, but it's most because a good player pick them up. Even now Sora is in my Top 5 and I've learned a lot about him and I'm way better using him now that I was in my day one Reaction to Sora in Smash. Link; ua-cam.com/video/X27z08ksgRc/v-deo.html
ive never been great at smash, i mostly played for fun and tried to focus on fighterz and SFV. but when sora came out i tried to get into it and tried to get good but hes so floaty and hard to master, after this video ill probably give it a shot again.
I spent most my time with the floaty characters like kirby and mewtwo so, when sora came out he didnt feel too alien to me. Cannot play him much anymore though as it takes me 15mins just to find a freakin match online now with him and kirby.
I’ve beaten Jake at a local, he is a complete masher and has almost 0 fundies. Completely carried by steve. He would be a 1-2er without steve and anyone at the PGR level is not hard carried to the level he is
@@Dark-xy6vu Sure it does. I'm just makin a comparison to the character to ina similar depiction of fighting game. Of which my opinion bein he was better done both aesthically and game play wise in SF2. As he is more fun to watch and to play. That and ion wanna see 💀 from the kid who has the entirety of the sonic franchise's OST saved on his channel next to a fortnite clip.
Picked em up the very first day he came out & till these day I haven’t put him down. I’m 1 of the few Soras that will knock out most players in elite. More win ratio than lose ratio. I’m glad someone is showing his potential cause he is a great character.
It's always amazing to know that the fastest character in the game has the longest matches.
18:19 Sora would've said "Time!' with that taunt as he won by timeout actual destruction to sonix
“Wait you’re telling me sora was always good?”
“Yes and I’m tired of pretending he’s not.”
Fr they hate on my boi before experiencing the power of friendship
Never played KH so the Sora novelty is semi lost on me, but I just love watching Kameme play. Him being the only top top Megaman for the longest time just had me love seeing him. I was so hyped when he got the first ko game 3 vs light. imagine if he brought it to game 5?
The number of soras that will pop up on elite soon 💀
Deadass
@@Xxblade17 yo, another REBORN! fan, holy shit. Much props bruh ✨🙏
Me included, dude
@@TheStryfe7 yessir
Picked em up the very first day he came out & till these day I haven’t put him down. I’m 1 of the few Soras that will knock out most players in elite. More win ratio than lose ratio. I’m glad someone is showing his potential cause he is a great character.
Soras dlc thing is his aerial combo 👌🏼
As a sora main, Sora really isn't a bad character. He's just honest, but he's also a character that takes a lot of time to learn the ins and outs, I mean, a combo-swordfighter-whiff-punisher character is really hard to get a hold of at first, but this goes for both playing as, and playing against him.
He has IDJ shit, which makes him much more consistent, and while his gravity is his biggest downside, it also helps when it comes to off-stage play, both in advantage and disadvantage.
Sora is also a glass cannon, which is an inherently difficult-to-learn character archetype. And like I said before, he's surprisingly fundy-based. Sora could be a top 5 character in the right hands, he's just difficult to get right.
I hope after this, people take sora up more and show off what he can do so people can accept sora's place in the meta. HE'S WORTH THE TIME INVESTMENT, TRUST ME, HE'S SOOOOO MUCH FUN
His idj combos or just nair 12 combos are so much fun to pull off and deal pretty good damage too
I’m glad Sora mains are here.
Legitimately, he feels fantastic when yhu can pull him off, and he's so good, and not tech-heavy, just knowledge-heavy.
Sora is technical compared to everyone else
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm a Sora secondary and I do not regret picking him up and grinding him. This kid deserves to have more players open up to him.
sora = underrated af
10:25 individual player skill is very very underappreciated in Smash. People act like Smash is super matchup based, but 90% of situations you see in competitive play are variations on situations enabled by universal mechanics. It's very similar to a game like KoF as opposed to more knowledge check based games like Tekken or Blazblue. Of course there are still some knowledge check characters and situations, but for the most part it's less about the characters and more about who is better at using universal mechanics.
Player skill is part of their MU knowledge so that question made no sense to me.
Like, fundies alone is not player skill, your match-up knowledge is included in player skill.
That's like a huge part of getting better, learning your MUs.
I agree but the problem with what your saying is that a lot of characters could reach diff hieghts, hit diff angles, are faster or slower then others, lighter and heavier, combos change dependent on character because of weight and size and even drift or frame 1 options/ out of shield options/ recoveries/ kill percents
That’s one thing I don’t like about Tweek’s and Charles’ approach to the game. I listen to a lot of Tweek Talks and they’re constantly talking about what characters Tweek should consider in the current metagame and foreseeable future. Matchups are important but Tweek is also just godlike and I want him to play against the player more often instead of the character. I respect his idea to play consistent and limit the amount of guesswork but I think he has the ability to pick spots and blow his opponent up for habits more
That's a funny way to say "Fundamentals are underappreciated"
Soras up air beats anvil. It clanks and then still hits Steve. It’s honesty broken
He needs that
yeah it seems like a lot of people don’t know that you can beat out the aerial hitbox of anvil and hit steve if your disjoint is big enough
@@fromjahwluv soras is good because it clanks and it is to active
It's not just Sora's up air. Corrin and Robin can also do this with an up air. I wouldn't be surprised if many other characters could do this, too.
Sora most busted moves is his aerials. His fast fall forward air and his noops. But his down smash is absolutely busted
I feel like if you combine Sora's smash ult recovery with the ssf2 aerials and neutral b, he could easily be top tier. I just wished they implemented form change.
Jake just has to not be so emotional. Every hit makes him jump in his seat and he looks absolutely annoyed/mad the longer the set continues.
9:11 "Why are you shaking your head bro? You won"
Said the guy who did shake his head and also throw his controller at the table after winning against an Incineroar lol
The most DLC thing about Sora would either be his recovery or his counter
Recovery: A really high second jump, an up b as high as links, and can act out of side b after?! Not necessarily broken, but really good
Counter: YOU ARE LITERALLY STOPPED IN PLACE
When you're in a sora slander competition and your opponent is Riddles: 😱😱😱
LMFAO
Sora in Smash is just like KH1 Sora. Where the gameplan is more of a pick your moments kinda gameplay around a fun combat character
Kameme and Unleashed both his the mentality of night trying to do alot and just get in what they know works without overdoing it
Regardless Sora's fun as hell and I can't wait to see more of him
“Sora recovery not that special” *can recover from nearly anywhere on map without a double jump* 😂
It's great to be able to actually watch competitive smash and root for someone playing my boy☺️ kameme is awesome!
I love the Tekken music so much.
Bro I am REALLY Loving what Riddles is doing with his hair!
Even though we only saw Kameme’s Mega Man for 1 game, between that and Riptide, I love all the attention MM is getting.
Riddles talking about Jake was the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard lmao
I feel like he was trying to be “the nice guy,” due to jake constantly getting hate on twitter (for malding/complaining). Jake is the most hated of the Steve’s im sure of it
@@trymacs4511 he might really really like Jake as a person 🤷♂️ It sounded like Jake had a gun pointed at him and forced him to say it lol
日本が誇るKAMEMEさんです
Could sora be our saviour to the Steve plague?
Sora, Marth, Lucina, Cloud, Sephiroth, Palutena, Robin, Hero, Fox, and Corrin are either winning or even. Even then, I've seen other top players beat top Steves with other characters that were supposed to be "bad" for the MU.
Steve doesn't destroy the game lol.
Here from the future, Sora is top 15 and potential in being top 10 maybe even 5!
nahhh at this point Sora is not mid. this character has so much bs to be a mid tier, he’s somewhere in high tier for sure, Tweek and Kameme both think the character is top 20. Idk about definitively, but if Kameme does well at The Big House coming up soon and Sora places high there will be no doubt he is a very solid high tier, possible low top tier
Possible low top tier for those two results alone?
@@JosephJohns-xi1qb its just possibly and only my opinion, I always thought Sora was at least high tier. Mostly bc Big House has a ton of other top players with top tier characters coming and if Kameme pulls off a good result again in NA here it could make some waves for Sora. And its not just 2 tournaments he has placed pretty well in JP throughout the whole year and is crazy good with the character, seeing how he holds up against NA players might be a good opportunity for others and myself to see some of Sora’s potential
@@splish_2 See it maybe, but JP and is pretty much overall the strongest region. That combined with so few people knowing how to fight a good Sora over here might not make the results mean quite as much in NA. Plus, if it's just him having break out success, then how do you know it's not a Leo situation? Remember, this is a game where in the same tournament, two Little Mac players made top 32 and a Dr. Mario player got like third. Those are extremes, but you can be middle of the road and still do well.
"How do you know it's not a Leo situation"
Because he's not Leo?????
He beat Leo once with Me a man sure, but if he's investing time into a "mid tier" then he wouldn't be placing 2nd right off the bat at a huge tournameny when he steps into NA lmao
Light is on a whole different level.
Bro had Jakes meat in his mouth the entire vid
Giga cringe
Idk about Jake being good. He’s the most carried from Steve.
I mean I don’t like jake as a player and he is carried to an extent but any top player is ridiculously good compared to the average player
@@mikasaabs4008 nah he plays Steve with no fundies and since people don’t know the counterplay they lose
He literally got a 0-60 from 1 tap with Steve he's most definitely carried by Steve
Yonni? Onin?
Hard agree, in the non steve steve bracket he played like shit
I think Sora's most DLC aspect is his ability to drift and cancel with his multi hit arials. I just think that because Bayo has something similar, Sakuri didn't want another Bayo situation with ToD out the wazoo.
Fox is broken but not everyone can make him work, he requires you to play very fast and not a lot of people can do that.
also he dies really early if you parry game is weak and you cant play a fast combo heavy game you are gonna struggle.
Riddles always with the Mega Man X music ya love to see it
I’ve been playing sora since he care out and I have to say, whilst the character definitely has flaws, he has great strengths and a really unique and fun play style. For me he’s probably a high tier character.
All the characters have flaws tho
Im honestly surprised sora is doing good at all when he has some of the biggest weaknesses a smash character can have floatiness and slow movement
Those 2 and Sora being light as a feather too
But he has these as strengths:
-A good projectile that can combo (Firaga)
-A move that covers so much space (Thundaga)
-A move that either deletes shield or shield pokes (Blizzaga)
-Good AF aerials that do solid damage
-Counter that straight up stops everything
-Nair is absurd (combos into everything)
-Floaty disjointed attacks
Does anyone know what is the song name in 10:23?
Look top tier? Nah he IS TOP TIER (low high tier that is)
Glad to finally see a Sora in competitive. I don't know why people don't know how to use him. He's a pretty fun character overall. Maybe it's because I love Kingdom Hearts that I was able to sit down get to know Sora, but I mean, honestly he shouldn't have switched to Megan Man. If he would have stayed as Sora, he probably would have won the Tournament. Matchup is a little important, but I feel like in the end, players skill is definitely more important, which is why we always get moments like this where unexpected characters start winning, but it's most because a good player pick them up. Even now Sora is in my Top 5 and I've learned a lot about him and I'm way better using him now that I was in my day one Reaction to Sora in Smash.
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man that nairo outro gets me every time its so freakin catchy xD
What I like is how Sora is so underrated but yet soo hyped to win. "Counter counter" play Sora and see
I have played sora since his debut and I'm no good but I love playing him
“Watch Jake is gonna beat Kameme right now.”
Um
Bro I swear light be at every tournament
Does anyone know what song plays at 5:25? ua-cam.com/video/XrIW2dd21tU/v-deo.html
What’s the song at 2:20??
p sure it's storm eagle's theme from mega man x, idk what remix this is tho
I was heart broken when he went Mega man
ive never been great at smash, i mostly played for fun and tried to focus on fighterz and SFV. but when sora came out i tried to get into it and tried to get good but hes so floaty and hard to master, after this video ill probably give it a shot again.
Because, Kingdom Hearts is LIGHT.
1:24 deadass riddles is speaking facts who the hell knows how to fight a good sora cuz every sora main SUCKS
I spent most my time with the floaty characters like kirby and mewtwo so, when sora came out he didnt feel too alien to me. Cannot play him much anymore though as it takes me 15mins just to find a freakin match online now with him and kirby.
I’ve beaten Jake at a local, he is a complete masher and has almost 0 fundies. Completely carried by steve. He would be a 1-2er without steve and anyone at the PGR level is not hard carried to the level he is
Masher?
9:00 shoutout to ikan in the chat
Naw, smash flash still did sora better. Home boy bout as lack luster as banjo.
Facts
Smash flash is also a fan made game so it doesn't count 💀
@@Dark-xy6vu Sure it does.
I'm just makin a comparison to the character to ina similar depiction of fighting game. Of which my opinion bein he was better done both aesthically and game play wise in SF2. As he is more fun to watch and to play.
That and ion wanna see 💀 from the kid who has the entirety of the sonic franchise's OST saved on his channel next to a fortnite clip.
🔑
🗝
Picked em up the very first day he came out & till these day I haven’t put him down. I’m 1 of the few Soras that will knock out most players in elite. More win ratio than lose ratio. I’m glad someone is showing his potential cause he is a great character.
Same here character is fun af to play.
Wish I could go to tournaments with my Kazuya.
love sora
I also like Jake! Thank you - homie gets way too much hate, and his rage quits are epic I’ve gotta love him
❤
Nair
Sora isn't even that light tbh, he's almost a mid weight
He's the same weight as Zelda
@@pigsmacker213 Yeah, and I have never heard anyone say that Zelda was too light as one of her weaknesses.
I honestly believe Kameme better then riddles
Steve is overrated, steve cant do anything to kameme's sora
Aye