My favorite part of the visuals is how the "wolves" are supposed to be scary but the dogs they used look so happy! Just a bunch of well fed, well groomed, happy doggos getting to be actors with their friends. So cute!
Honestly, if I happened to cross paths with a pack of happy, fluffy doggos masquerading as wolves and found myself with the opportunity to become one of them and assimilate into the pack - especially when I was twelve - I’d have probably been like “hell to the yes, let’s go!” 😋🐺💚
"Never stray from the path, never eat a wind fallen apple and never trust a man whose eyebrows meet in the middle" has lived rent free in my head for 30 years lol.
Same here, this movie was not great but I've never forgotten that line. It's sound advice. Right up there with Conan the Barbarian's list of the best things in life.
This movie was made shortly after An American Werewolf in London. It had a much lower budget and was applauded for how they managed to get comparable effects on a shoestring. I saw it in the cinema, without having read the original stories, so I didn't find the ending particularly out of phase with the rest. The sequence that precedes the main character 'waking up' is a surreal vision of the pack of wolves chasing through her family home, and I always thought that the wolf crashing through the window was just a continuation of the dream. Looked at this way, it's not her being 'dominated', but a foreshadowing of the chaos of puberty; the time during which we have to learn to tame 'the beast', which her mother earlier tells her is in both men and women.
@@darkartsandcrafts7996Basically, the opposite of Labyrinth (1986), which ends with the similar-looking dark-haired fourteen-year-old Jennifer Connolly partying it up with all her new Muppet friends, her glittery toys and costumes all fully intact, having told the (albeit VERY hot) Goblin King that he (and, presumably, the pressure to Grow Up) *Has No Power Over Her*.
Yea DUH it’s called magical realism. Why are so few that have any kind of literary knowledge around anymore? Just a shame. And it’s not a kids movie either.
Fun fact: the wolves are actually Belgian sheep dogs, mostly Tervurans. My grandma was a prominent Tervuran breeder and knew the person who bred those dogs (maybe the trainer too). My first knowledge of this movie was her telling me about hat when we were watching the BBC production of of The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, which also used Tervs as wolves. 🙂
@@JurassicReptile She actually said "Belgian Shepards", which generally refers to Malinois (who are also the goodest boys/girls when they're not being mali-gators).
Oh my god I would LOVE to see you cover 80's werewolf movies! It's amazing how big werewolves were in the 80's. I'm sure that says something about the times, but I am not sure what.
Speaking of 80s werewolf movies, The Howling II: Your Sister is a Werewolf. I'd also refer to it by its first name, but UA-cam doesn't like that word, possibly a result of the CEO being afraid of being called that word.
There are multiple interpretations. I have a theory that the fact that three hugely succeful werewold movies came out in 1981 was linked to the politics of the moment. That scumbag Regan had just been elected and the country made the terrible transformation from the previous decades of left wing prosperity to ensuing decades of right wing tyranny. Other than that, being the 80s, you could read the werewolf fascination as either a cocaine addiction metaphor or an AIDS metaphor, or both.
Sad to know that Angela Lansbury died in 2022 at age 96 She was a chain smoker in real life so She probably died from lung cancer but unknown if that is true or not She quit smoking in the mid 1960’s in 1976 and in 1987 She went underwent thorough cosmetic surgery on Her neck to prevent it from broadening with Her age. She started to suffer from Arthritis during The 1990’s and had hip replacement on May 1994 and knee replacement surgery in 2005 so unknown what She actually sadly passed away from.@@colinwhitfield8627
Oh my god! The movie based on Angela Carter's stories ... I've never seen it, but the story is one of my favorites. The complete collection of Carter's short stories, "Burning Your Boats," is very much worth buying or checking out at the library. ("The Fall River Axe Murders" is my personal favorite.)
Angela Carter actually worked on the screenplay with Neil Jordan on that, not just based on her stories! Which is probably why the new elements work so well. I'm a big fan of both. Neil Jordan went on to do some of my favorite films (High Spirits, Michael Collins, The Butcher Boy, In Dreams, Ondine), and I love this one, it was his second film so a little bit of the awkwardness is understandable. That and a lower budget, of course. The ending was sort of ruined by the budget/time. In Carter's screenplay, when the wolves attack, Rosaleen dives into the floor as if it were water. A surreal "did she really wake up?" take on it. However, you can read the end in another way, albeit still ambiguous. One of the big complaint of "it was only a dream" stories is that they aren't "real" (which is silly, none of it is). I don't dislike that trope; I like dream stories and otherworlds in general. But the hallmark of a strong dream story vs a weaker one is: did the character learn anything from the experience? And that's the question the ending asks, but does not answer. She dreams, and has these experiences, takes control and finds her agency as she enters adulthood. When she wakes, adulthood comes crashing in, and we are left to wonder if she learned from that dream, or if she just becomes a victim. Asking that question is asking did the dream accomplish the purpose, and by extension, did the stories, the fairy tales we read, accomplish the purpose of preparing us for the horrors of the world that may come crashing in? I think that question is consistent with the rest of Carter's works, and the ending doesn't ruin the film for me quite as much. it's also possible I just spend too much time thinking about this stuff, but I love fairy tales and dreams and fantasy/horror movies that touch upon them. Don't even get me started on Legend (my favorite movie ever)
I agree with you and I like your take on whether she learned from her dream or not. I never thought of that aspect and I always just thought it was another dream that heralded the end of childhood. To me, the wolf coming through the window of more interested in wrecking her toys vs eating Rosaleen. Hope your comment gets higher up in the thread. Funny enough, Legend is also one of my childhood favorites.
@@darkartsandcrafts7996 That's an excllent point, with the wolf wrecking the toys! Definitely adds to the end-of-childhood symbolism! I absolutely obsess over Legend, and have since it came out! I've easily rewatched that more than any other movie!
Excellent analysis! And I also love Legend. I saw that in the theater when I was 7 & Darkness terrified me & I wanted to understand why. I was already stalking my own thoughts & reactions. Then later, I became obsessed with the nature of good & evil. Go figure! You should start a blog or podcast yourself. You'd probably have some interesting insights. I always saw Legend as a film adaptation of Milton’s Paradise Lost with unicorns being the forbidden fruit.
@@NinjaRunningWild thanks for the kind words! I just like to spend too much time thinking about the things I like! There's definitely a "fall from grace/innocence" theme in Legend, and one of the things I like about it is how complex of a character Lily is. On one hand, it is innocence, but on the other hand, she's starting from a place of entitlement. Clearly from a wealthy background (and explicitly a princess in the director's cut), so she's not thinking of consequences. She doesn't even know it's wrong to touch them until Jack tells her afterwards. But when she sets about trying to make things right, she does, having even the presence of mind to fool Darkness, knowing he will kill her for it. To the audience, it seems that she turns, but she never actually does, quickly getting over her shock and manipulating Darkness to give the unicorn a chance. She can't know about Jack's plan, beyond trusting that he'll try to do something, just as she is. ....as I said, I can spend way too much time babbling about that movie! it's my very favorite!
I switched halfway through a movie where Jennifer Lopez was in a dream enjoying seeing a man have his intestines drawn out and wound round something, this looks of sadistic pleasure on her face, not context for why, coded as sexual, very much thought i imagined it.
@patrickdtx3638 absolutely. and asking my mother about it was no help. "Remember that bizarre movie you let us watch once? About the kid and the weird grandmother?" "... Flowers in the Attic?" "No. You putting *that* VHS on where we could see it is a whole other conversation..."
Terrence Stamp plays the Devil! I love it! I’ve gotta watch this now, disappointing ending notwithstanding. Anyhow, I’d love to see your take on Tales From the Darkside, and especially a review series focused on the Tales From the Crypt TV series. So many stars-before-they-were-stars and fun stories in that show.
People mentioning that the same director also did Interview With The Vampire, which also featured an underage girl smooching a full-grown man. At least in Interview, Claudia was aged up from the book, where she was described as being 6 or 7 years old. Anyway, while I love the idea of covering werewolf movies as a series, I also think you should do an episode overview of Jim Henson's The Storyteller. There were two seasons, one of European fairy tales and one of Greek myths, and I think a lot of people have vague 'did I dream that' memories of either/both.
I remember finding this movie late at night on tv. I fell in love! I don’t know what it is about finding movies you’re too old to watch on HBO as a kid, but all the flaws disappear. I watched it over and over again, and I was already a Murder, She Wrote fan too. I then read the book years later and didn’t even make the connection. 😅 The Bluebeard story was my favorite. PLEASE cover 80’s werewolf movies! I was such a wimp as a kid but I loved werewolf movies. Wolf, The Howling, Waxwork, Silver Bullet (have to love an alcoholic Gary Busey). Also Waxwork has David Warner and John Rhys-Davies, so you can’t say no to that. 😂
for a view into Lansburry's career, I would suggest "Gaslight", as it's her first role, and I think the movie is pretty good, but she is a relatively minor player in it. and maybe not quite as commentary friendly?
I'm a little surprised you hadn't seen it until recently! Glad you did, this was excellent! Love to see more werewolf stuff! Are you thinking about doing Manchurian Candidate?
Good rundown and video. I love Angela as well. She was great! In the final scene when she wakes up and the wolf comes crashing through her window, are we going to ignore the fact the sailor doll and one that also seemed to attack her by coming to life looks like the totally haunted doll 'Robert'??? Creepy to say the least. The clown doll looks familiar too.
I saw this movie on video and instantly loved it. It is *so* odd. I agree with the person who thinks that the wolf crashing through the window is still part of the dream...and the fear of growing up and all that entails.
I remember feading the short story in an snthology, lovingAngela Carter's prose, and being excited that there was a movie about it. My parents forbade me watching it as a kid, so I was left stewing over what it was like, until I managed to pirate it a decade later. It remains a favorite despite the uncomfortable themes, simply for having a tone i like anything I had seen for years. Cannon productions did it like no other, and Neal Jordean was skilled
I can't remember if I saw it at the midnight movie when the Rocky Horror crowd was thin, late at night on cable when I was trying to pass out or if I saw it on VHS at a friend's house at a party. All I know is that I remember seeing it and looking back on it thinking it was just a fever dream. What a weird movie it was! Then again, so was being a teenager in the 1980s. Best to you- ❤🌹
i remember trying to watch this in highschool and although the visuals were really fun i couldnt finish it because the actress's age made me so uncomfortable whenever the hunstman guy was on screen
I remember how iconic the VHS cover was. Walking the horror section at Blockbuster was always a must. I always just saw the ending as a fake out. She was still dreaming. It also reeks of studio mandate. It's gotta have that last shocking moment, ala Carrie, FT13th, etc.
This has always been one of my favorite movies. The old fairytale atmosphere it has, is something I'm constantly searching through old 80's movies to find. Legend had a similar feel. And Labyrinth. But this one is particularly special for some reason. Maybe because it's lesser known. Maybe it's all the symbolism.
When you finally acknowledged the horrific special effects, I literally breathed a sigh of relief. Like I needed confirmation we were actually seeing the same footage. 😂
My high school English teacher somehow was able to get us a copy of this and show it to us (mostly as an illustration of how we could adapt folktales to our own narratives), not a year or two after its release. I always remembered the bit about the eyebrows but somehow forgot it was Angela Lansbury in that getup.
I’d love to see you review the Celtic Riddle film in Murder, She Wrote. I remember when I was younger I had to record the film in 4 parts. I recently got the box set and showed it to my Irish BF, who was impressed that they didn’t Americanise the Irish Gardaí cars.
The thumbnail creeped me out...to the point where I just _had_ to check this out (😄)! I'm now interested to check this flick out for myself now; the werewolf is one of my personal favorite monsters after all. I have a couple of suggestions for future videos: ever hear of _"Carnosaur"_ or _"Cool World?"_
That ending reads as some exec going "It's a horror movie! We gotta end with a death!" and everyone just sighing and rolling their eyes as they go to do it.
I still remember the closing poem, even though I last saw this movie in 1991 Little girls, this seems to say never stop upon your way never trust a stranger friend No one knows how it will end As you're pretty, so be wise Wolves may lurk in every guise Now, as then, 'tis simple truth: sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth and I found the SOURCE for this poem: the original version of Little Red Riding Hood, where it exists with an extra 2 lines: Little girls, this seems to say, Never stop upon your way, Never trust a stranger-friend; No one knows how it will end. As you're pretty so be wise; Wolves may lurk in every guise. Handsome they may be, and kind, Gay, and charming - never mind! Now, as then, ‘tis simple truth - Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth!
@@biorph8597 I know it’s rare to come across others who have seen that bizarre movie! have you ever seen the documentary made about the making of the peanut butter solution?
@@biorph8597it’s such a weird but memorable movie! There’s definitely enough creepy in it for Roses to review! Have you ever seen the behind the scenes documentary of Peanut Butter Solution?
I am very curious about this, if simply 'cause I seem to recall the Bloody Chamber being part of the reading list for one of my textual intervention class at university - the whole idea was exploring reinterpretations of classic stories and fairy tales, I ended up writing a Choose Your Own Adventure take on Dracula and, funnily enough, a version of Red Riding Hood where she makes a deal with the wolf because of anger over her nickname, and then ends up cursed to become a wolf herself. Also I have to wonder if the whole luring a wolf with a duck thing is a Peter and the Wolf allusion.
Recently I watched the 1990 horror anthology film The Willies featuring Micheal Bower from Salute your shorts. A few of the stories include some typical urban legends but the last two main stories are about a monster in an elementary school bathroom that kills and eats a teacher and children. The second with Bower is about a fly obsessed boy stealing fertilizer from a farmer until hes given growth formula that causes giant flies to attack.
I literally just bought this again a couple of days ago. It was one of my favourite Werewolf movies growing up, along with American Werewolf in London and Silver Bullet.
I think it should be both - we should learn not to hurt others, as much as we should learn to be cautious. I'm saying that because I saw enough people walking into parade of red flags and then being suprised they got hurt…
True. I also dislike the focus only being on men when women do horrific things and hurt people too. Teach people to not be crap and to look out for themselves.
Not necessarily requesting a review of it, but I am curious if you have seen the movie The Court Jester. It also has Angela Lansbery, although granted in a somewhat secondary role, but is a really funny film I was introduced to at university.
The duck story had me howling. The same thing happened when I was doing a herding instinct test with one of my puppies. He had no interest in the sheep so I thought maybe with the ducks being smaller he'd be interested in them. One quacked and he hid behind me and refused to not have me in between him and the livestock. I'll let him know he's not the only pupper to think that Ducks are scary.
This is one of my top 5 favorite werewolf films. I love the Gothic dream like atmosphere and dark fairy tale tone. As for the ending I actually love it. It's your typical horror movie scare ending and I've always interpreted it as the main girl waking up to the reality that womanhood/nature is inevitable and sometimes terrifying, regardless if you accept it. If you enjoy this film, I highly recommend “Ginger Snaps.” Same synopsis, a coming of age story where the main girl becoming a werewolf is a metaphor for puberty.
Long gone are the days of the mom and pop video shops where that iconic Company of Wolves poster would be hanging in the Horror section looong after 1984. :( FUN FACT: David Warner is in this. David Warner also played a vampire hunter in "My Best Friend Is A Vampire", which ended with him running off with a pack of wolves!
The wolfgirl from the well is portrayed by one of my favorite musicians and all-around multifaceted creative and performing artists Danielle Dax- who is the only reason I know this movie exists - her music is... very, wildly, unique; especially her one-woman-show earliest solo works
You should look into the 2000 film Icebreaker. So bad-it's-kind-of-good with heckling, Bruce Campbell chewing the scenery like he knows best, Sean Astin just before his LOTR days, all revolving around a terrorist plot... at a Ski Resort?? Me and my partner love watching your videos, watched this film and thought it was godawful hilarious, and I think you'd do a great recap of it! Thank you for the constant entertainment and laughs
The wedding scene WAS in the original Angela Carter story. It mentions a witch who turned a wedding party into wolves because the groom had left her for another. It's just only a paragraph rather than the other stories that are more detailed, but the wedding is there.
It's amazing to know that the director went on to make Interview With A Vampire after seeing this. Just goes to show you can't always make great things, but you can make the best with what you have.
I watched this as a teen, mainly because of Angela Lansbury as the granny! Overall the movie isn’t good, because it’s too confusing, especially the WTF ending! I got it on DVD, because I like werewolf movies like The Howling and Silver Bullet. But I feel Sarah Patterson was too young for that role, even director Neil Jordan warned her about the adult themes, that she had to go through child services, like Jodie Foster did in Taxi Driver. This movie is just disturbing!
Oh my God. I have been trying to remember this movie for TWENTY YEARS. I remember seeing it at like 3 in the morning on Cinemax The Ocho or something. I fell asleep halfway through it (Because 3 in the morning) and was never sure if I actually saw a movie with a skinless wolf monster or dreamed it. Well, turns out it was real.
I think they could've done something cool with the wolf breaking in at the end where they make it more ambiguous about why it's there. It could instead be a moment of the dream connecting to the real world and her being able to make the same choice for real.
I remember watching this movie in my first apartment for the first time. I was by myself and only had my dog and cat with me. It was an awesome experience as I had fairy tale phases before so I was really interested in trying to pick the film's metaphors and imagery apart.
Little girls, this seems to say, Never stop upon your way, Never trust a stranger-friend; No one knows how it will end. As you're pretty, so be wise; Wolves may lurk in every guise. Handsome they may be, and kind, Gay, and charming - never mind! Now, as then, ‘tis simple truth - Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth Man, I really loved this movie growing up. It's good stuff. Macabre fantasy has always been a favorite genre of mine.
This is such a bonkers movie, but incredibly fun to watch. Like Rocky horror fairytales. I agree with you on the ending , it makes no sense, and feels really out of place. Love this video !
I know I've mentioned this before, but considering this was an ITC film which was a part of ITV, it would be interesting to see you tackle some of the horror that was on ITV, like The Woman in Black and Beasts from Nigel Kneale.
You said (long ago) that you'd do a video discussing Murder She Wrote's Grady Fletcher (Jessica's nephew) and his bizarre love life (since he has a different girlfriend/fiance every time he appears). I thought I'd give you a polite reminder
15:43 Street Trash, Tourist Trap, Freaked, Bad Channels, The Ice Pirates, The Nest, The Kindred, The 'Burbs, Innerspace, Psycho Goreman, and/or Manborg
To be fair, in my dreams, I am a demi-god and in real life I'm a shlub. Having a cool dream and then waking up to a world of crap is a daily experience. No wolves jumping through my window, yet.
Another Trippy AF fairy tale horror movie I'd recommend - Snow White: A Tale of Terror (1997). Starring Sigourney Weaver as The Evil Queen (not a queen in this version), Sam Neill as The Father and Monica Keena as Lilli (Snow White)
I would love to see you review and breakdown Murder By Death. Classic parody of a closed room murder as approached by the worlds most famous literary authors. And one of Truman Capote’s only acting credits!
Wolf is not an 1980's werewolf movie. It came out in 1994. However, An American Werewolf in London, The Howling, and Silver Bullet are all horror movies with werewolves that came out then.
I'd not heard of this before and thank fluff it's on UA-cam so I could watch it because I quite liked it. That first transformation did go on a bit too long, but as to the end, I kinda liked it. The dreaming breaking into the real world. And I loved when Tom from Waiting For God dropped a branch on Granny's head. That was to good. So thank you for making my night by introducing me to this movie.
I would LOVE 80's werewolf films... Which could turn into the vampire craze of the 90's. But there was also this fairytale series from the eighties, I think. That I would love to see your commentary on. But any fairy tale content ftom the eighties and nineties would be awesome (things were just allowed to be a bit grittier at that time. I think it really adds to the vibe).
The short story is actually very in keeping with what we know of the origins of Little Red Riding Hood which can be traced back like 2000 years I think? I'm guessing the author got inspired by Charles Perrlaut rather than the Brothers Grimm.
"There is some doubt as to [Sarah Patterson's] birthdate: IMDb (the Internet Movie Database) states the year as 1972. But this would mean that Patterson was eleven, or else just turned twelve, when she made The Company of Wolves. The sleevenotes for The Company of Wolves Special Edition say she had just turned 13 when she auditioned for the film, which would give a more likely birth date of 1970." - wiki note Wow. 14 or 15 years' old. She looks about 27...
Hmmm is there a chance this movie (or the original short story) could've helped inspire the videogame The Path? "Never stray from the path", "Wolves come in many forms", the themes of loss of innocence... sure, the game's tone is somewhat different from the movie's, but I can't help but to see the similarities.
I saw this movie on shudder a few months ago; think I was on a werewolf kick for Halloween. Checked it out because of Angela Lansbury too. Very surreal film.
This used to be a pretty reliable rerun on TV back when I wsas a teen (so, like, 20+ years ago) and I always enjoyed it, nice to know I haven't dreamt it up
I have to pop in and leave this comment irrelevant to the video -- i miss content with you and clint/LGR! I find myself rewatching old let's plays and wish you guys did stuff together again. Please respond! ❤🎉
i love the idea that the wolf refused to come back to set like "i refuse to work with that duck"
Understandable. Ducks are _mean._
Yes, that was obviously a fowl working environment.
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A wolf with standards 😤
Actors can be such divas
My favorite part of the visuals is how the "wolves" are supposed to be scary but the dogs they used look so happy! Just a bunch of well fed, well groomed, happy doggos getting to be actors with their friends. So cute!
And one wolf traumatized by a single quack.
@@MrDj232 LOL!! The duck was the scariest beast on set!
wolves are like that too though, they dont wander round trying to look scary
Honestly, if I happened to cross paths with a pack of happy, fluffy doggos masquerading as wolves and found myself with the opportunity to become one of them and assimilate into the pack - especially when I was twelve - I’d have probably been like “hell to the yes, let’s go!” 😋🐺💚
The doggies were having a lot of fun on that movie.
"Never stray from the path, never eat a wind fallen apple and never trust a man whose eyebrows meet in the middle" has lived rent free in my head for 30 years lol.
Me too! but I forgot it was Angela Lansbury, lol.
I told my mother that line and she was like, "That explains a lot about your father." 🤣
But seriously, this movie was my least favorite for DECADES.
Same here, this movie was not great but I've never forgotten that line. It's sound advice. Right up there with Conan the Barbarian's list of the best things in life.
The last line is good advice in general. If a dude doesn't bother to trim his unibrow, you shouldn't trust him. Dude's shady af
Don’t piss into the wind.
This movie was made shortly after An American Werewolf in London. It had a much lower budget and was applauded for how they managed to get comparable effects on a shoestring. I saw it in the cinema, without having read the original stories, so I didn't find the ending particularly out of phase with the rest.
The sequence that precedes the main character 'waking up' is a surreal vision of the pack of wolves chasing through her family home, and I always thought that the wolf crashing through the window was just a continuation of the dream. Looked at this way, it's not her being 'dominated', but a foreshadowing of the chaos of puberty; the time during which we have to learn to tame 'the beast', which her mother earlier tells her is in both men and women.
Agreed. I always interpreted the wolf coming to smash all her childhood toys and therefore heralding the end of childhood.
@@darkartsandcrafts7996 exactly. Or even fear of losing virginity?
@@darkartsandcrafts7996Basically, the opposite of Labyrinth (1986), which ends with the similar-looking dark-haired fourteen-year-old Jennifer Connolly partying it up with all her new Muppet friends, her glittery toys and costumes all fully intact, having told the (albeit VERY hot) Goblin King that he (and, presumably, the pressure to Grow Up) *Has No Power Over Her*.
As a man with eyebrows that meet in the middle, I feel personally attacked.
But are you a werewolf?
Yeah. I also felt a lot of “men are evil by default” in the narrative. I’m all for female empowerment, but the movie didn’t go about it correctly.
@@Joseph_Drew_IIIYou’re taking the grandmother’s point of view as the movie’s message, she’s meant to be only one viewpoint influencing the hero.
its literally been proven by the film with facts and logic you are a werewolf and YOU feel like the victom?!?!?
You think this is bad -- have you ever gone in for a haircut, and they waxed your eyebrow(s) *without you asking for it?!*
Not a horror movie, but has Angela Lansbury as a princess- "The Court Jester". It's a lot of fun.
She's so melodramatic in Court Jester. Every time she pops up is a hoot.
Yea DUH it’s called magical realism. Why are so few that have any kind of literary knowledge around anymore? Just a shame. And it’s not a kids movie either.
I love The Court Jester. My favourite Danny Kaye film
I LOOOOVE the Court Jester! Enthusiastically seconded. 😍
The brew that is true and the flagon with the dragon lives rent free in my mind
Fun fact: the wolves are actually Belgian sheep dogs, mostly Tervurans. My grandma was a prominent Tervuran breeder and knew the person who bred those dogs (maybe the trainer too).
My first knowledge of this movie was her telling me about hat when we were watching the BBC production of of The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, which also used Tervs as wolves. 🙂
I'll never forget the wolfman's letter to Lucy being narrated by said wolfman and ending with a hammy growl.
she literally said that in the video
@@JurassicReptile She actually said "Belgian Shepards", which generally refers to Malinois (who are also the goodest boys/girls when they're not being mali-gators).
What is it with the BBC and tervs, anyway?
Oh my god I would LOVE to see you cover 80's werewolf movies! It's amazing how big werewolves were in the 80's. I'm sure that says something about the times, but I am not sure what.
It was a dog-eat-dog world
Society was unleashed
Everybody strayed from the path
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YES
Speaking of 80s werewolf movies, The Howling II: Your Sister is a Werewolf.
I'd also refer to it by its first name, but UA-cam doesn't like that word, possibly a result of the CEO being afraid of being called that word.
There are multiple interpretations. I have a theory that the fact that three hugely succeful werewold movies came out in 1981 was linked to the politics of the moment. That scumbag Regan had just been elected and the country made the terrible transformation from the previous decades of left wing prosperity to ensuing decades of right wing tyranny. Other than that, being the 80s, you could read the werewolf fascination as either a cocaine addiction metaphor or an AIDS metaphor, or both.
My Stepmother is A Werewolf. That could be a fun review.
Fudge you, whatever I was doing. Roses just dropped
oh. ditto.
Even though He is uncredited Terrance Stamp plays as The Devil in this bizarre Movie.@@colinwhitfield8627
Sad to know that Angela Lansbury died in 2022 at age 96 She was a chain smoker in real life so She probably died from lung cancer but unknown if that is true or not She quit smoking in the mid 1960’s in 1976 and in 1987 She went underwent thorough cosmetic surgery on Her neck to prevent it from broadening with Her age. She started to suffer from Arthritis during The 1990’s and had hip replacement on May 1994 and knee replacement surgery in 2005 so unknown what She actually sadly passed away from.@@colinwhitfield8627
Roses is UA-cam-priority
Oh my god! The movie based on Angela Carter's stories ... I've never seen it, but the story is one of my favorites. The complete collection of Carter's short stories, "Burning Your Boats," is very much worth buying or checking out at the library. ("The Fall River Axe Murders" is my personal favorite.)
Angela Carter actually worked on the screenplay with Neil Jordan on that, not just based on her stories! Which is probably why the new elements work so well. I'm a big fan of both. Neil Jordan went on to do some of my favorite films (High Spirits, Michael Collins, The Butcher Boy, In Dreams, Ondine), and I love this one, it was his second film so a little bit of the awkwardness is understandable. That and a lower budget, of course.
The ending was sort of ruined by the budget/time. In Carter's screenplay, when the wolves attack, Rosaleen dives into the floor as if it were water. A surreal "did she really wake up?" take on it. However, you can read the end in another way, albeit still ambiguous. One of the big complaint of "it was only a dream" stories is that they aren't "real" (which is silly, none of it is). I don't dislike that trope; I like dream stories and otherworlds in general. But the hallmark of a strong dream story vs a weaker one is: did the character learn anything from the experience? And that's the question the ending asks, but does not answer. She dreams, and has these experiences, takes control and finds her agency as she enters adulthood. When she wakes, adulthood comes crashing in, and we are left to wonder if she learned from that dream, or if she just becomes a victim. Asking that question is asking did the dream accomplish the purpose, and by extension, did the stories, the fairy tales we read, accomplish the purpose of preparing us for the horrors of the world that may come crashing in? I think that question is consistent with the rest of Carter's works, and the ending doesn't ruin the film for me quite as much.
it's also possible I just spend too much time thinking about this stuff, but I love fairy tales and dreams and fantasy/horror movies that touch upon them. Don't even get me started on Legend (my favorite movie ever)
I agree with you and I like your take on whether she learned from her dream or not. I never thought of that aspect and I always just thought it was another dream that heralded the end of childhood. To me, the wolf coming through the window of more interested in wrecking her toys vs eating Rosaleen. Hope your comment gets higher up in the thread.
Funny enough, Legend is also one of my childhood favorites.
@@darkartsandcrafts7996 That's an excllent point, with the wolf wrecking the toys! Definitely adds to the end-of-childhood symbolism!
I absolutely obsess over Legend, and have since it came out! I've easily rewatched that more than any other movie!
Excellent analysis! And I also love Legend. I saw that in the theater when I was 7 & Darkness terrified me & I wanted to understand why. I was already stalking my own thoughts & reactions. Then later, I became obsessed with the nature of good & evil. Go figure! You should start a blog or podcast yourself. You'd probably have some interesting insights.
I always saw Legend as a film adaptation of Milton’s Paradise Lost with unicorns being the forbidden fruit.
@@NinjaRunningWild thanks for the kind words! I just like to spend too much time thinking about the things I like! There's definitely a "fall from grace/innocence" theme in Legend, and one of the things I like about it is how complex of a character Lily is. On one hand, it is innocence, but on the other hand, she's starting from a place of entitlement. Clearly from a wealthy background (and explicitly a princess in the director's cut), so she's not thinking of consequences. She doesn't even know it's wrong to touch them until Jack tells her afterwards.
But when she sets about trying to make things right, she does, having even the presence of mind to fool Darkness, knowing he will kill her for it. To the audience, it seems that she turns, but she never actually does, quickly getting over her shock and manipulating Darkness to give the unicorn a chance. She can't know about Jack's plan, beyond trusting that he'll try to do something, just as she is.
....as I said, I can spend way too much time babbling about that movie! it's my very favorite!
I love your take! And Legend is awesome! 👏🏽
Oh, this! I caught it on TV once as a kid, and it spent years as one of those "did I imagine it?" movies
I switched halfway through a movie where Jennifer Lopez was in a dream enjoying seeing a man have his intestines drawn out and wound round something, this looks of sadistic pleasure on her face, not context for why, coded as sexual, very much thought i imagined it.
I can totally see that happening. The whole movie is kind of a fever dream.
@patrickdtx3638 absolutely. and asking my mother about it was no help.
"Remember that bizarre movie you let us watch once? About the kid and the weird grandmother?"
"... Flowers in the Attic?"
"No. You putting *that* VHS on where we could see it is a whole other conversation..."
Same!!
Same, I kind of remember catching like a scene from the movie when I was little but I feel like I was too young to understand what was happening.
Holy crap by sheer coincidence we just talked about The Company of Wolves in my university class about Fairy Tales!
Terrence Stamp plays the Devil! I love it! I’ve gotta watch this now, disappointing ending notwithstanding.
Anyhow, I’d love to see your take on Tales From the Darkside, and especially a review series focused on the Tales From the Crypt TV series. So many stars-before-they-were-stars and fun stories in that show.
Stamp is a massively under-appreciated actor. Kneel before Zod!
Sometimes it feels like David Warner is in EVERY weird film from the 80s and 90s...
People mentioning that the same director also did Interview With The Vampire, which also featured an underage girl smooching a full-grown man. At least in Interview, Claudia was aged up from the book, where she was described as being 6 or 7 years old.
Anyway, while I love the idea of covering werewolf movies as a series, I also think you should do an episode overview of Jim Henson's The Storyteller. There were two seasons, one of European fairy tales and one of Greek myths, and I think a lot of people have vague 'did I dream that' memories of either/both.
That was the most accurate I have seen a show depict Greek mythology.
In The Company of Wolves is nuts. Funny to me that Neil Jordan also directs Interview With The Vampire.
I remember finding this movie late at night on tv. I fell in love! I don’t know what it is about finding movies you’re too old to watch on HBO as a kid, but all the flaws disappear. I watched it over and over again, and I was already a Murder, She Wrote fan too. I then read the book years later and didn’t even make the connection. 😅 The Bluebeard story was my favorite.
PLEASE cover 80’s werewolf movies! I was such a wimp as a kid but I loved werewolf movies. Wolf, The Howling, Waxwork, Silver Bullet (have to love an alcoholic Gary Busey). Also Waxwork has David Warner and John Rhys-Davies, so you can’t say no to that. 😂
for a view into Lansburry's career, I would suggest "Gaslight", as it's her first role, and I think the movie is pretty good, but she is a relatively minor player in it. and maybe not quite as commentary friendly?
I'm pretty sure Angela was never in Gaslight. You must be misremembering it like usual. ;)
@@Belgand ...
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that doll in the sailor suit is probably based on Robert the doll, a supposedly posessed doll in a museum in florida.
Right? I was gonna say.
Exactly! Looks like someone already noticed that.
I'm a little surprised you hadn't seen it until recently! Glad you did, this was excellent! Love to see more werewolf stuff! Are you thinking about doing Manchurian Candidate?
Angela Lansbury was great in that. Fantastic film.
Roses, your voice is very soothing and I can just listen to you for hours 😊❤
Good rundown and video. I love Angela as well. She was great! In the final scene when she wakes up and the wolf comes crashing through her window, are we going to ignore the fact the sailor doll and one that also seemed to attack her by coming to life looks like the totally haunted doll 'Robert'??? Creepy to say the least. The clown doll looks familiar too.
I saw this movie on video and instantly loved it. It is *so* odd. I agree with the person who thinks that the wolf crashing through the window is still part of the dream...and the fear of growing up and all that entails.
I remember feading the short story in an snthology, lovingAngela Carter's prose, and being excited that there was a movie about it. My parents forbade me watching it as a kid, so I was left stewing over what it was like, until I managed to pirate it a decade later. It remains a favorite despite the uncomfortable themes, simply for having a tone i like anything I had seen for years. Cannon productions did it like no other, and Neal Jordean was skilled
I can't remember if I saw it at the midnight movie when the Rocky Horror crowd was thin, late at night on cable when I was trying to pass out or if I saw it on VHS at a friend's house at a party.
All I know is that I remember seeing it and looking back on it thinking it was just a fever dream.
What a weird movie it was! Then again, so was being a teenager in the 1980s.
Best to you- ❤🌹
I rented the VHS back in 1987. I loved it at the time.
i remember trying to watch this in highschool and although the visuals were really fun i couldnt finish it because the actress's age made me so uncomfortable whenever the hunstman guy was on screen
I remember how iconic the VHS cover was. Walking the horror section at Blockbuster was always a must. I always just saw the ending as a fake out. She was still dreaming. It also reeks of studio mandate. It's gotta have that last shocking moment, ala Carrie, FT13th, etc.
I've missed you soo much Rose! This was an absolute treat!!
Hell yea! I actually really like “the company of wolves” it’s got a great cast in it too
I can’t get over the wolf peacing out after the duck quacked. That is too cute. 😅
Would love the werewolf film analysis 😊. Great vid as always.
The Red Riding hood movie with Amanda Seyfried looks a lot like this movie. Felt a lot like it too
I hadn't made that connection. Thanks!
The tidbit about the real wolf being scared of the duck because it quacked 😭😭😭 omg what a puppy ♥️
This has always been one of my favorite movies. The old fairytale atmosphere it has, is something I'm constantly searching through old 80's movies to find. Legend had a similar feel. And Labyrinth. But this one is particularly special for some reason. Maybe because it's lesser known. Maybe it's all the symbolism.
When you finally acknowledged the horrific special effects, I literally breathed a sigh of relief. Like I needed confirmation we were actually seeing the same footage. 😂
My high school English teacher somehow was able to get us a copy of this and show it to us (mostly as an illustration of how we could adapt folktales to our own narratives), not a year or two after its release. I always remembered the bit about the eyebrows but somehow forgot it was Angela Lansbury in that getup.
I’d love to see you review the Celtic Riddle film in Murder, She Wrote. I remember when I was younger I had to record the film in 4 parts. I recently got the box set and showed it to my Irish BF, who was impressed that they didn’t Americanise the Irish Gardaí cars.
What a wild time. Always good to see Angela Lansbury doing something weird.
Oh, man. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do more weird 80s werewolf movies like the Jack Nicholson one. Also Silver Bullet if you haven't done that one yet.
When you mentioned having a dream about Eminem, then dropping the "gravity" line a minute later, that was just... *chef's kiss*
This movie traumatized me as a kid. Stills creeps me out now. And I'm 41.
The thumbnail creeped me out...to the point where I just _had_ to check this out (😄)! I'm now interested to check this flick out for myself now; the werewolf is one of my personal favorite monsters after all.
I have a couple of suggestions for future videos: ever hear of _"Carnosaur"_ or _"Cool World?"_
That ending reads as some exec going "It's a horror movie! We gotta end with a death!" and everyone just sighing and rolling their eyes as they go to do it.
I still remember the closing poem, even though I last saw this movie in 1991
Little girls, this seems to say
never stop upon your way
never trust a stranger friend
No one knows how it will end
As you're pretty, so be wise
Wolves may lurk in every guise
Now, as then, 'tis simple truth:
sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth
and I found the SOURCE for this poem: the original version of Little Red Riding Hood, where it exists with an extra 2 lines:
Little girls, this seems to say,
Never stop upon your way,
Never trust a stranger-friend;
No one knows how it will end.
As you're pretty so be wise;
Wolves may lurk in every guise.
Handsome they may be, and kind,
Gay, and charming - never mind!
Now, as then, ‘tis simple truth -
Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth!
If you want an 80s corny werewolf romance movie that also has Michelle Pfeiffer, might I suggest Lady Hawk? It is peak 80s camp and an utter delight.
At some point you really need to cover The Peanut Butter Solution
That movie is a fever dream!
@@AllofTimeandSpace EEEE! Someone else who has heard of it! YES IT IS A FEVER DREAM! I would love to see Roses cover it!
@@biorph8597 I know it’s rare to come across others who have seen that bizarre movie! have you ever seen the documentary made about the making of the peanut butter solution?
Honestly, from the thumbnail, I thought it was The Peanut Butter Solution.
@@biorph8597it’s such a weird but memorable movie! There’s definitely enough creepy in it for Roses to review! Have you ever seen the behind the scenes documentary of Peanut Butter Solution?
I am very curious about this, if simply 'cause I seem to recall the Bloody Chamber being part of the reading list for one of my textual intervention class at university - the whole idea was exploring reinterpretations of classic stories and fairy tales, I ended up writing a Choose Your Own Adventure take on Dracula and, funnily enough, a version of Red Riding Hood where she makes a deal with the wolf because of anger over her nickname, and then ends up cursed to become a wolf herself.
Also I have to wonder if the whole luring a wolf with a duck thing is a Peter and the Wolf allusion.
Recently I watched the 1990 horror anthology film The Willies featuring Micheal Bower from Salute your shorts. A few of the stories include some typical urban legends but the last two main stories are about a monster in an elementary school bathroom that kills and eats a teacher and children. The second with Bower is about a fly obsessed boy stealing fertilizer from a farmer until hes given growth formula that causes giant flies to attack.
I literally just bought this again a couple of days ago. It was one of my favourite Werewolf movies growing up, along with American Werewolf in London and Silver Bullet.
I think it should be both - we should learn not to hurt others, as much as we should learn to be cautious.
I'm saying that because I saw enough people walking into parade of red flags and then being suprised they got hurt…
True. I also dislike the focus only being on men when women do horrific things and hurt people too. Teach people to not be crap and to look out for themselves.
Not necessarily requesting a review of it, but I am curious if you have seen the movie The Court Jester. It also has Angela Lansbery, although granted in a somewhat secondary role, but is a really funny film I was introduced to at university.
The duck story had me howling. The same thing happened when I was doing a herding instinct test with one of my puppies. He had no interest in the sheep so I thought maybe with the ducks being smaller he'd be interested in them. One quacked and he hid behind me and refused to not have me in between him and the livestock. I'll let him know he's not the only pupper to think that Ducks are scary.
This is one of my top 5 favorite werewolf films. I love the Gothic dream like atmosphere and dark fairy tale tone. As for the ending I actually love it. It's your typical horror movie scare ending and I've always interpreted it as the main girl waking up to the reality that womanhood/nature is inevitable and sometimes terrifying, regardless if you accept it. If you enjoy this film, I highly recommend “Ginger Snaps.” Same synopsis, a coming of age story where the main girl becoming a werewolf is a metaphor for puberty.
Graham Crowden plays the Priest in this. Lovely guy, I knew him well for a few years before he died.
I am hearing Bingo from Bluey saying, "It was the 80ies".... 😂
Long gone are the days of the mom and pop video shops where that iconic Company of Wolves poster would be hanging in the Horror section looong after 1984.
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FUN FACT: David Warner is in this. David Warner also played a vampire hunter in "My Best Friend Is A Vampire", which ended with him running off with a pack of wolves!
You straight up kill me... every time I watch one of your vids. "Dressed like Kate Bush!" laughing for days. LOL
The wolfgirl from the well is portrayed by one of my favorite musicians and all-around multifaceted creative and performing artists Danielle Dax- who is the only reason I know this movie exists - her music is... very, wildly, unique; especially her one-woman-show earliest solo works
You should look into the 2000 film Icebreaker. So bad-it's-kind-of-good with heckling, Bruce Campbell chewing the scenery like he knows best, Sean Astin just before his LOTR days, all revolving around a terrorist plot... at a Ski Resort??
Me and my partner love watching your videos, watched this film and thought it was godawful hilarious, and I think you'd do a great recap of it! Thank you for the constant entertainment and laughs
The wedding scene WAS in the original Angela Carter story. It mentions a witch who turned a wedding party into wolves because the groom had left her for another. It's just only a paragraph rather than the other stories that are more detailed, but the wedding is there.
It's amazing to know that the director went on to make Interview With A Vampire after seeing this. Just goes to show you can't always make great things, but you can make the best with what you have.
I watched this as a teen, mainly because of Angela Lansbury as the granny! Overall the movie isn’t good, because it’s too confusing, especially the WTF ending! I got it on DVD, because I like werewolf movies like The Howling and Silver Bullet. But I feel Sarah Patterson was too young for that role, even director Neil Jordan warned her about the adult themes, that she had to go through child services, like Jodie Foster did in Taxi Driver. This movie is just disturbing!
So excited to see you covering this film! My mum loves it and we bonded over watching it together ⭐️
I love the idea of a tour through 80's werewolf movies :D Thnks for the ace vid
Oh my God. I have been trying to remember this movie for TWENTY YEARS. I remember seeing it at like 3 in the morning on Cinemax The Ocho or something. I fell asleep halfway through it (Because 3 in the morning) and was never sure if I actually saw a movie with a skinless wolf monster or dreamed it.
Well, turns out it was real.
I think they could've done something cool with the wolf breaking in at the end where they make it more ambiguous about why it's there. It could instead be a moment of the dream connecting to the real world and her being able to make the same choice for real.
I remember watching this movie in my first apartment for the first time. I was by myself and only had my dog and cat with me. It was an awesome experience as I had fairy tale phases before so I was really interested in trying to pick the film's metaphors and imagery apart.
Angela Lansbury's head exploding like porcelain against the wall. That is the only thing I remember about this film.
Thanks for the video.
"Now as then, 'tis simple truth, sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth." That ending poem always got me.
Little girls, this seems to say,
Never stop upon your way,
Never trust a stranger-friend;
No one knows how it will end.
As you're pretty, so be wise;
Wolves may lurk in every guise.
Handsome they may be, and kind,
Gay, and charming - never mind!
Now, as then, ‘tis simple truth -
Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth
Man, I really loved this movie growing up. It's good stuff. Macabre fantasy has always been a favorite genre of mine.
It is truly the creepiest part of the film
This is such a bonkers movie, but incredibly fun to watch. Like Rocky horror fairytales.
I agree with you on the ending , it makes no sense, and feels really out of place.
Love this video !
I know I've mentioned this before, but considering this was an ITC film which was a part of ITV, it would be interesting to see you tackle some of the horror that was on ITV, like The Woman in Black and Beasts from Nigel Kneale.
The mirror crack'd with angela lansbury as miss marple. It has a great cast and plays like an extended episode of murder she wrote.
Never stray from The path, Never eat a windfall apple and NEVER Trust a man who’s eyebrows meet, I still live by this lol
You said (long ago) that you'd do a video discussing Murder She Wrote's Grady Fletcher (Jessica's nephew) and his bizarre love life (since he has a different girlfriend/fiance every time he appears).
I thought I'd give you a polite reminder
15:43 Street Trash, Tourist Trap, Freaked, Bad Channels, The Ice Pirates, The Nest, The Kindred, The 'Burbs, Innerspace, Psycho Goreman, and/or Manborg
A frog out of water, is an omen of death.
To be fair, in my dreams, I am a demi-god and in real life I'm a shlub. Having a cool dream and then waking up to a world of crap is a daily experience. No wolves jumping through my window, yet.
Another Trippy AF fairy tale horror movie I'd recommend - Snow White: A Tale of Terror (1997).
Starring Sigourney Weaver as The Evil Queen (not a queen in this version), Sam Neill as The Father and Monica Keena as Lilli (Snow White)
I would love to see you review and breakdown Murder By Death. Classic parody of a closed room murder as approached by the worlds most famous literary authors. And one of Truman Capote’s only acting credits!
No mention of the great David Warner ? 😢.
Wolf is not an 1980's werewolf movie. It came out in 1994. However, An American Werewolf in London, The Howling, and Silver Bullet are all horror movies with werewolves that came out then.
Dang, this looked like a real slog to get through. It also endlessly amuses me just how happy the pups playing the wolves are
I'd not heard of this before and thank fluff it's on UA-cam so I could watch it because I quite liked it. That first transformation did go on a bit too long, but as to the end, I kinda liked it. The dreaming breaking into the real world. And I loved when Tom from Waiting For God dropped a branch on Granny's head. That was to good. So thank you for making my night by introducing me to this movie.
I would LOVE 80's werewolf films... Which could turn into the vampire craze of the 90's.
But there was also this fairytale series from the eighties, I think. That I would love to see your commentary on. But any fairy tale content ftom the eighties and nineties would be awesome (things were just allowed to be a bit grittier at that time. I think it really adds to the vibe).
Making me think of the game The Path, where Granny also represents a kind of stifling safety. Granted that game is,,, much stranger in many ways
Okay, but the wedding wolves are ADORABLE.
The short story is actually very in keeping with what we know of the origins of Little Red Riding Hood which can be traced back like 2000 years I think? I'm guessing the author got inspired by Charles Perrlaut rather than the Brothers Grimm.
"There is some doubt as to [Sarah Patterson's] birthdate: IMDb (the Internet Movie Database) states the year as 1972. But this would mean that Patterson was eleven, or else just turned twelve, when she made The Company of Wolves. The sleevenotes for The Company of Wolves Special Edition say she had just turned 13 when she auditioned for the film, which would give a more likely birth date of 1970." - wiki note
Wow. 14 or 15 years' old. She looks about 27...
Hmmm is there a chance this movie (or the original short story) could've helped inspire the videogame The Path? "Never stray from the path", "Wolves come in many forms", the themes of loss of innocence... sure, the game's tone is somewhat different from the movie's, but I can't help but to see the similarities.
I saw this movie on shudder a few months ago; think I was on a werewolf kick for Halloween. Checked it out because of Angela Lansbury too. Very surreal film.
If you do end up covering all the 80s werewolf movies, I cannot WAIT until you get to Howling 2.
This used to be a pretty reliable rerun on TV back when I wsas a teen (so, like, 20+ years ago) and I always enjoyed it, nice to know I haven't dreamt it up
OMG memory unlocked. somehow I watched this and managed to completely forget it
I loved this movie as a kid- I think the weird practical effects kind of hold up, because they're so freaky!
“We have the American Werewolf in London transformation scene at home.”
This movie is the American Werewolf in London transformation scene at home.
"Maybe if we drink around it?" I died 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have to pop in and leave this comment irrelevant to the video -- i miss content with you and clint/LGR! I find myself rewatching old let's plays and wish you guys did stuff together again. Please respond! ❤🎉