I would have a hard time understanding this sonata myself. I could always tell it is a masterpiece, but felt I was just too small a musician to understand or hear it the way I should for a sonata. I thought there was something wrong that I didnt understand it, like maybe i just suck at listening to sonatas. I was never into this sonata like other pianists. But after hearing the beginning of this episode, I realize I'm not going crazy. It's so refreshing. And it's so refreshing to be able to hear this analysis. I could listen to you talk about this piece for hours and not be bored. I never caught it before, but you mention this piece has all the types of writing of Chopin in it and now I hear it too. I went back to listen to the whole sonata all the way through after hearing about this and your analysis. I am now in love with this sonata.
The more I assist your videos the faster I come to conclusions that not only are you a master of piano but on top of it you understand the Chopin music better than anybody else in the music world. And this is very important, there are many pianists but there are few who penetrate with such a feeling which combines spirituality and love ... and we are grateful that you do this work voluntary to help others to appreciate and to dive into that immense wisdom of Chopin works. Wszystkiego najlepszego od wiernych sluchaczy
This is my absolute favourite piano piece. When I first heard it I felt like it was taking me to another world. Sometimes I wish I had the chance to listen it for the first time once again
And yes Greg, I've been learning this Sonata for about a month and grasping the Exposition. Your analysis helped me understand the structure of this movement much more and I can't thank you enough for that. You've forgotten to mention that the 5th (the most soothing and loveliest) part of the Second Theme is made up of a variation of the opening five-note motif, with an inversion of the first four notes. The opening movement is undeniably the most beautiful of all Chopin's music.
Hi Maestro Greg, I don’t know how I missed this before today. I’ve been working on this piece for over a year and just finished listening to your first movement analysis and was thrilled to hear how much you love this piece. it was very inspiring. I can’t wait to hear the other movements. Earlier today, I left my last practice session very discouraged, but now I can’t wait to sit down again tomorrow. I can’t tell you how much this means to me. Happy Journey on the rest of your tour. 🚌🛳🚞
I watch and listen, and come back again as I understand more. Each time my appreciation deepens. When I have a question, I look for your channel and ask, "what do you think, Mr Niemczuk?" "How do I think about this?" My professor and a trusted resource. Thank you ever so much for sharing your gifts with us.
This first movement is a marvel of compository genie! All themes sprout from the beginning five notes and the subsequent phrase. Even the second theme is a broadening of it. So I'm surprised that Liszt didn't see this. As Chopin was a great admirer of Bach he used similar techniques like inversions etc...This you can see in the last part of this movement where he uses the inversion of the beginning in a beautiful melodic way but you can hardly recognise it! Marvelous!!!❤
Every time watching your video; I am inspired! I can’t wait to learn Chopin’s music. I can’t wait to practice harder. THANK YOU FOR YOUR BEAUTIFUL PLAYING!
thank you Greg for your analysis! by far my favourite piece as well! I think it combines lyrical beauty as well as creativity of form and motivic linkage
Another masterpiece of Chopin's music is once more so meticulously and delightfully approached by you, Mo Niemczuk, that no words will ever reach our gratitude owed to your tremendous effort to transfer a better world through your words and play. Since my early youth this sonata has also been a landmark of mine, through a vinyl recording by Abbey Simon, an english pianist who passed away in 2019, at the age of 99. Immortal works will survive humanity and will ever teach beauty and purity of real music. Your play is simply unique. I dare no comparison. Any artist is also unique. The persuasion expressed by him, depends on how divinely gifted his mind and soul are. What i can realize is that this sonata and you are one !!!
Dinu Lipatti's recording of this work is sublime and this was my first exposure to the piece so I always liked the piece. While I appreciate Greg for making this video, it can be packed more succinctly to make it more digestible for a more general audience.
You always let the melody breath and each melody has it s own life and yet everything flows together. And the tempi are always appropriate. Pure music. And thank you for the historical context regarding the critics apprehensions. As for Chopin s motives it is a psychological possibility. The insight re the fugue and the introduction of the unimportant theme is really stunning once you start bringing it out with that deep rich tone. Thank you again for all your amazing insights.
Pretty interesting analysis of this 1st movement of Chopin-sonata op. 58. This piece means to me what the Saint Matthew-Passion of Johann Sebastian Bach meant to real musicians. Op 58 is rich and full of the motives of Bach combined with Chopin's creativity and it sounds symphonic to me. Even Chopin never composed for orchestra. I'm encountering and playing this sonata for more than 27 years and each time I can explore more and more new aspects out of this genius master piece. The sonata op. 58 is a summary of his piano concertos, his preludes, his nocturnes, his scherzi and all music ever composed by this genius from Poland, who moved to Paris!
I disagree with the critics' comments too. Your analysis plus live demo , almost phrase by phrase on the piano, is gold. You make this very difficult sonata sound like a piece of cake.
Fantastic analysis. I put this allegro aside because I could not find a way to unify the various sections and will try it again with your video as a guide
I would love to have Greg for my teacher!!! Imagine him guiding you say two lessons a week and each lesson is finished with you listening to him play a piece of your choosing. Sigh. Would definitely keep me motivated and inspired !!!
Most interesting. Indeed Chopin took the old sterile sonata form that he was undoubtedly bored with, and made it his, to the scorn of music critics of his day. Thank you for showing us how. Yes, the sonata is a masterpiece.
Wow, I really like your analysis of this great sonata. I hope I will also play it in some years :) But at the moment I play the Chopin Op. 25 No. 7 etude. Thank you for the great videos about analyzing Chopins music. You are a large enrichment for all people who want to understand more about Chopin and his music.
Thank you! I deeply appreciate this comment. It's important for me to know that it's also precious for others! Food luck with this Etude. It was one of her most emotional analysis made by me (the one about op.25 no.7). And the Sonata....well.... It's a piece of my life. My most favorite piece written by Chopin!
Great analysis as always! I had a hard time appreciating this sonata at first, but your analysis really helped me understand it better. I now enjoy it more and more as I listen to it. Have you heard Charles-Richard Hamelin performance of this piece in the 2015 Chopin competition? I know how you feel about competitions, but I think his interpretation is really convincing, and I was curious to know your opinion.
With the multitude of themes in the exposition, I'm wondering if Chopin was inspired by Mozart's sonata form movements which also contain a plethora of themes in the exposition. Take, for example, the first movement of K. 332 which has no fewer than seven themes in the exposition.
Nice video❤❤❤By the way, from the comments I have read, 95% percent of musicologists hated the last sonata op. 65 that Chopin wrote😢. I am curious about what do you think about that piece😊
What a passionate and inspiring analysis! 👏👏You play with such bravado and energy that surpasses even the Chopin Competition winners! Too bad my small hands can't stretch the first 5 opening notes 😥 but I'll keep trying. My favorite interpretation is the one by Argerich last year.
If you have small hands, why not play with 4-3-2-1-2 fingering? I can take a 9th from the top of the keyboard and barely a 10th from the edge. I can stretch it with no problem but still prefer the 4-3-2-1-2 fingering.
Bravo! maestro Greg! you inspire me every time. wow*\(^o^)/* your score is the same like my too much written score! I'd like to play this sonata again💪thanks Greg !
If somebody loved me the way Greg loves Chopin's music, I'd be happy.
I would have a hard time understanding this sonata myself. I could always tell it is a masterpiece, but felt I was just too small a musician to understand or hear it the way I should for a sonata. I thought there was something wrong that I didnt understand it, like maybe i just suck at listening to sonatas. I was never into this sonata like other pianists. But after hearing the beginning of this episode, I realize I'm not going crazy. It's so refreshing. And it's so refreshing to be able to hear this analysis. I could listen to you talk about this piece for hours and not be bored. I never caught it before, but you mention this piece has all the types of writing of Chopin in it and now I hear it too. I went back to listen to the whole sonata all the way through after hearing about this and your analysis. I am now in love with this sonata.
This is so special!! I'm so happy reading your words. Thank you so much!
The more I assist your videos the faster I come to conclusions that not only are you a master of piano but on top of it you understand the Chopin music better than anybody else in the music world. And this is very important, there are many pianists but there are few who penetrate with such a feeling which combines spirituality and love ... and we are grateful that you do this work voluntary to help others to appreciate and to dive into that immense wisdom of Chopin works.
Wszystkiego najlepszego od wiernych sluchaczy
Thank you so much! Dziękuję!
This is my absolute favourite piano piece. When I first heard it I felt like it was taking me to another world. Sometimes I wish I had the chance to listen it for the first time once again
Oh yes!!!
I'm going to perform it again next season
@@gregniemczuk That's great!
As a non-pianist, this music has always puzzled me. Thanks to your analysis, I’m coming closer to understanding it than before.
And I love Greg as I love Chopin.
And yes Greg, I've been learning this Sonata for about a month and grasping the Exposition. Your analysis helped me understand the structure of this movement much more and I can't thank you enough for that.
You've forgotten to mention that the 5th (the most soothing and loveliest) part of the Second Theme is made up of a variation of the opening five-note motif, with an inversion of the first four notes.
The opening movement is undeniably the most beautiful of all Chopin's music.
Aaaahhhh yes!!! Too many things to tell, and I in fact forgot about that!!! This is SO IMPORTANT!! Thank you for mentioning it!
Hi Maestro Greg, I don’t know how I missed this before today. I’ve been working on this piece for over a year and just finished listening to your first movement analysis and was thrilled to hear how much you love this piece. it was very inspiring. I can’t wait to hear the other movements. Earlier today, I left my last practice session very discouraged, but now I can’t wait to sit down again tomorrow. I can’t tell you how much this means to me. Happy Journey on the rest of your tour. 🚌🛳🚞
I watch and listen, and come back again as I understand more. Each time my appreciation deepens. When I have a question, I look for your channel and ask, "what do you think, Mr Niemczuk?" "How do I think about this?" My professor and a trusted resource. Thank you ever so much for sharing your gifts with us.
I love your words!!! This is exactly why I was doing all those videos!!!! Thank you thousand times!!!?
This first movement is a marvel of compository genie! All themes sprout from the beginning five notes and the subsequent phrase. Even the second theme is a broadening of it. So I'm surprised that Liszt didn't see this. As Chopin was a great admirer of Bach he used similar techniques like inversions etc...This you can see in the last part of this movement where he uses the inversion of the beginning in a beautiful melodic way but you can hardly recognise it! Marvelous!!!❤
Every time watching your video; I am inspired! I can’t wait to learn Chopin’s music. I can’t wait to practice harder. THANK YOU FOR YOUR BEAUTIFUL PLAYING!
Yes!!! Thank you! Your comment made me so happy. Sorry for a late reply, I just didn't see it earlier
Late Chopin really is best Chopin. Thank you for your video, good sir.
thank you Greg for your analysis! by far my favourite piece as well! I think it combines lyrical beauty as well as creativity of form and motivic linkage
Another masterpiece of Chopin's music is once more so meticulously and delightfully approached by you, Mo Niemczuk, that no words will ever reach our gratitude owed to your tremendous effort to transfer a better world through your words and play. Since my early youth this sonata has also been a landmark of mine, through a vinyl recording by Abbey Simon, an english pianist who passed away in 2019, at the age of 99. Immortal works will survive humanity and will ever teach beauty and purity of real music. Your play is simply unique. I dare no comparison. Any artist is also unique. The persuasion expressed by him, depends on how divinely gifted his mind and soul are. What i can realize is that this sonata and you are one !!!
Thank you so much!
Your passion is very much inspiring Greg. Your performance of this sonata is certainly my favorite out there!
Thank you so much
I love this guy so much, thanks Greg
Dinu Lipatti's recording of this work is sublime and this was my first exposure to the piece so I always liked the piece. While I appreciate Greg for making this video, it can be packed more succinctly to make it more digestible for a more general audience.
Thanks for the analysis , I'm still learning. This great and beautiful piece I recently listen a lot.
amazing lesson!!!full of emotion and very clear even dor me!!thank you!!
I love your analysis so much they became my morning routine
Só good to know that!!!!
Amazing analysis
Mee too!
You always let the melody breath and each melody has it s own life and yet everything flows together. And the tempi are always appropriate. Pure music. And thank you for the historical context regarding the critics apprehensions. As for Chopin s motives it is a psychological possibility. The insight re the fugue and the introduction of the unimportant theme is really stunning once you start bringing it out with that deep rich tone. Thank you again for all your amazing insights.
This is my very favorite piece of Chopin. I just love it with all my heart!
Oh the Fazioli !!! Such a beautiful sound .
I was listening to this sonata while driving home today. Really pleasant.
Thank you!
Pretty interesting analysis of this 1st movement of Chopin-sonata op. 58. This piece means to me what the Saint Matthew-Passion of Johann Sebastian Bach meant to real musicians. Op 58 is rich and full of the motives of Bach combined with Chopin's creativity and it sounds symphonic to me. Even Chopin never composed for orchestra. I'm encountering and playing this sonata for more than 27 years and each time I can explore more and more new aspects out of this genius master piece. The sonata op. 58 is a summary of his piano concertos, his preludes, his nocturnes, his scherzi and all music ever composed by this genius from Poland, who moved to Paris!
Yes, well said. Thank you very much for watching and for your comment! It's very enriching.
@@gregniemczuk Just go ahead and take your time to explain Chopin to the audience on the World Wide Web! I (and they) appreciate you man!
I disagree with the critics' comments too. Your analysis plus live demo , almost phrase by phrase on the piano, is gold. You make this very difficult sonata sound like a piece of cake.
It's only possible because I've been playing it for years!!
Fantastic analysis. I put this allegro aside because I could not find a way to unify the various sections and will try it again with your video as a guide
I'm so happy to read your comment! That's exactly my goal when I'm preparing all those videos!
Wow excellent thank you so much!
Thank you!
THANK YOUU
I would love to have Greg for my teacher!!!
Imagine him guiding you say two lessons a week and each lesson is finished with you listening to him play a piece of your choosing. Sigh. Would definitely keep me motivated and inspired !!!
😀😀😀😀☺️☺️☺️☺️ i love teaching
@@gregniemczuk It shows !!!
10:35 " This is the bridge " I like it 🔥 znakomity koncert pięknie Pan zagrał
Most interesting. Indeed Chopin took the old sterile sonata form that he was undoubtedly bored with, and made it his, to the scorn of music critics of his day. Thank you for showing us how. Yes, the sonata is a masterpiece.
Welcome! So happy to have you here. Thank you for this comment.
Wow, I really like your analysis of this great sonata. I hope I will also play it in some years :)
But at the moment I play the Chopin Op. 25 No. 7 etude.
Thank you for the great videos about analyzing Chopins music. You are a large enrichment for all people who want to understand more about Chopin and his music.
Thank you! I deeply appreciate this comment. It's important for me to know that it's also precious for others!
Food luck with this Etude. It was one of her most emotional analysis made by me (the one about op.25 no.7).
And the Sonata....well.... It's a piece of my life. My most favorite piece written by Chopin!
@@gregniemczuk No problem. Thank you very much. Can you maybe also do some analysis of Liszt's music? I think this will be also very interesting :D
@@Tobi619Nr12 I might!
@@gregniemczuk Nice, that would be so great, really love the Mephisto Waltz or his Sonata in B minor :D
thank you!See you on Polish version
Beautiful!! 😍👏👏👏👏👏👏
Good evening
Nice Fazioli
Great analysis as always! I had a hard time appreciating this sonata at first, but your analysis really helped me understand it better. I now enjoy it more and more as I listen to it. Have you heard Charles-Richard Hamelin performance of this piece in the 2015 Chopin competition? I know how you feel about competitions, but I think his interpretation is really convincing, and I was curious to know your opinion.
Yes! I like this performance very much! I think he created a music rather than just performed a competition performance. I admire him very much!
@@gregniemczuk Great to hear! He's a québecois (french canadian) fellow, and we're very proud of him!
With the multitude of themes in the exposition, I'm wondering if Chopin was inspired by Mozart's sonata form movements which also contain a plethora of themes in the exposition. Take, for example, the first movement of K. 332 which has no fewer than seven themes in the exposition.
Who knows? He loved Mozart
Nice video❤❤❤By the way, from the comments I have read, 95% percent of musicologists hated the last sonata op. 65 that Chopin wrote😢. I am curious about what do you think about that piece😊
I think it's one of his greatest masterpieces
What a passionate and inspiring analysis! 👏👏You play with such bravado and energy that surpasses even the Chopin Competition winners! Too bad my small hands can't stretch the first 5 opening notes 😥 but I'll keep trying. My favorite interpretation is the one by Argerich last year.
I love this Sonata with all my heart!
If you have small hands, why not play with 4-3-2-1-2 fingering?
I can take a 9th from the top of the keyboard and barely a 10th from the edge. I can stretch it with no problem but still prefer the 4-3-2-1-2 fingering.
What does 門頁子金花 mean
Where did you get that Chopin bust, Greg?
I got it as a gift from one of my fans, fans of these analyses 😀😀😀 it came by post! So I don't know!
Having played both 3rd sonata and preludes... which do you thing is "easier" for someone from 20 to 25
Definitely Preludes
大好き❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Ha ha ha!! so fun it ^^
Bravo! maestro Greg!
you inspire me every time.
wow*\(^o^)/*
your score is the same like my too much written score!
I'd like to play this sonata again💪thanks Greg !
Great!!!
Sorry there is not Polish version! now is 00.22 in Poland.I am waiting!in fb is very silentGreetingsE
Tomorrow morning!
@@gregniemczuk ok thanks.For your lectures I can wait as long as it is possible
*for me
Oh I suddenly notice that there is a Chinese poem on the left side wall😂👍
Yes!! It's a gift 🙂🙂🙂