Jeep JL Wrangler Coilover Suspension with High Clearance Long Arm Installation by EVO - PART 1
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2019
- Since getting our Jeep JL Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited a little over a year and a half ago, Cindy and I have had a chance to test out a myriad of lift kits and this would include everything from a budget boost to a 4" coil lift. We did this to learn as much as we could and gain as much first hand experience as possible and mainly because we always knew this day was coming - the point of no return!
Based on our years of experience running EVO coilovers on both of our JK Wranglers, it really was just a matter of time before we installed set on our JL Wrangler as well. In addition to offering a crazy amount of flex out on the trail and allowing us to bomb across the desert in comfort, EVO has always done a great job of designing their coilover kits to offer an on pavement ride that we absolutely love. Of course, ride comfort is 100% subjective and the best part about coilovers is that they're completely adjustable. In other words, if you don't like what you get standard, you can always set them up with whatever spring rate and valving you prefer.
To help optimize our ride quality even more, we decided to have EVO High Clearance Long Arms installed at the same time as they do a great job of correcting suspension geometry. And, in this episode of the JL JOURNAL, you'll get to see what all is involved to get them installed. We hope you enjoy.
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Always a good time at Mel's place. The build quality is amazing. And the gentleman doing the welding is phenomenal.
The welding really is amazing :)
Your editing was great! Very enjoyable and captivating to watch!
Thank you, we're so happy to hear you enjoyed the video as much as you did :)
Wow, very impressed with the work done by EVO. Those welds!!
Also, the fan and train portion of the video was a cool touch!
LOL - glad you liked the video and the extra touches. EVO can weld for sure!
Great video, been waiting patiently for it, can't wait for Part 2!! Looks like great install and some beautiful workmanship done by EVO on the install and the mfr. of the parts!! Thanks for sharing!
It's one of the biggest reasons why we love running EVO products.
Eddie, I have had that kit for the past 8 months or so, it is really awesome! Talk to Mel, but I would highly recommend putting limit straps on. It will flex so much it will put a lot of outward stress on the rear long arm brackets and will start pulling the welds off of the frame. My JL scored a 930 on the Metalcload CTI rig with the straps on.
And to think... our conversation back on the New Years run about going to coilovers made me think this day would never come. Lol. So cool guys. Can’t wait to see you guys in action
LOL - so glad that it finally happened.
Tommy’s Welds are Amazing!
He be Stacking Dimes! 👍🏼
Great video, that evo kit looks awesome. Looks like they did a lot of r&d to develop a very functional system. Waiting for the next episode to see the finished install and test drive, thanks.
No one I know has been developing and testing out coilover systems like this for the Wrangler longer than EVO. So glad you enjoyed the video :)
Looks amazing and love the video. Most definitely from all the videos you have sold me on Evo manufacturing components.
Awesome! Glad we could be of help :)
What a great video!! The craftsmanship and the amount of work these guys did was amazing! Great job!! Can't wait to see the finished product!
Glad you enjoyed it and the finished product is coming soon :)
Been looking at this option for a while and been stuck on the fence. Going to wait for your part two, but already the craftsmanship and clean install have squashed any concerns. Great choice!
LOL - honestly, this is the suspension system we've been wanting on our JL since it became available. I think you'd LOVE it as much as we do.
Tommy's welds are amazing.Sure hope they pay him good! He's a true craftsman.
Soooo much want! Jet Li is turning in a beast!! Can’t wait for part 2. Keep up the fantastic work:)
He's getting there for sure and part 2 is in the works now :)
Those brackets are a thing of beauty. Art in steel. Amazing.
Couldn't agree more :)
Wow! Such a tease. I wanted to watch until it was finished. Can't wait for part 2. Eddie you're giving me to many ideas.
Sorry my friend, that was our goal but there was just way too much footage to go through in such a short amount of time. Working on it though and hope to get it out soon :)
Super Cool.... Great Video! I couldn’t imagine taking on a Job like that… You can tell Mel’s Guys have this down to an Art! 👍😃
Mel definitely has a good crew working for him.
Those 2 guys did an amazing job. Can’t wait for the next episode.
Working on it now and hope to have it up soon.
This is the explanation of perfection, good job 👍🏻
Awesome work for sure :)
I really enjoy watching your videos ! Your channel is my Favorite to watch. Saving up for my 1st Rubicon! I had a Jeep Wagoneer way back in the early 90s.
Thank you, we're so glad to hear it and hope you're able to get your Rubicon sooner than later! :)
Impressive job by Evo. Looking forward to the next video Eddie.
They always do impressive work and we we're working hard on the next video :)
nice video! I had the evo long arm installed on my JKU and i love it! coilover are next
Super impressive! looks great amazing work by TEAM EVO !
They really do great work :)
There’s so much going on here, I have to watch it again!
A lot happened in a short amount of time for sure :)
Great video!!! Love the new long arms👍
Thank you and we're glad you enjoyed the video :)
The more I see of EVO's work and engineering the more impressed I am. The US has such an abundance of top artisans.
The guys at EVO are definitely one of the best.
Do you think it's because Mel has actually been off roading and Rock crawling for many years and really understands the dynamics at hand?
Damn that is a serious mod, all that welding! It was a pleasure to meet you at EJS Eddie! Unfortunately Elephant hill permits were full but hopefully next time I'm in Moab I can get out there!
Hey Matt, we met at the Jeep display right? It was a real pleasure to meet you as well and hope you're able to get out there in the near future :)
@@wayalife that was me! Moab is the best I'll definitely be out there again
Wow, those guys work amazing. Congrats to EVO.
It's the main reason why we came to them to do this install :)
Tommy, Rickey, Eddie. Great trio!
LOL :)
WOW!!! That's awesomesuace of a whole other level!
LOL - awesomesauce for sure!
The torch scene gets me. The line is in the way.
Serious business, No way back! Have fun with the new set up 🇳🇱❤️🇺🇸✌️💪🔧💪💪💪💪
Would never want to go back :)
I watched this one twice. Very fun to watch
LOL - good to hear it was worth a second watch :)
They look like they’ve done that at least one other time - lol! Top notch install & fast, can’t wait to see them finish it up.
LOL - I think they could have done it blindfolded.
Wayalife It certainly appeared that way......calm & precise with no wasted effort or deliberation. Confidence inspiring! Like your driving!
Awesomeness in a video. Great word and tons of fun....
So glad you enjoyed it :)
Great job! Your jeep always looks clean looking with all of the mods. I think you need to make a video and talk about all the mods. I like the fact you daily drive your vehicle also.
Thanks! Our Jeep has been changing a lot over the past year and a half but it's starting to get to the point where we want it. We might have to try and do some kind of walk around now.
Wow that was a ton of work done in a day! Wouldn’t probably find many over here in Hawaii that could do that.
Those MIG welds are beautiful !
Shoutout to that guy !!!
I can weld but mine never look like a stack of dimes. Stack of pancakes maybe, or maybe a pile of sandbags.
Truly beautiful welds.
Wayalife what an honor to get a reply from you !!! Thx for all the great content.
I’ve just started watching it...just got the notice and clicked. You ain’t even driving yet, just opening the door and I’m stoked... 😂
Awesome - hope you enjoy it once you get a chance to watch it :)
Wayalife it was great until the cliffhanger ending. 😢😂
Very awesome Bill can't wait to see it I just down the street from me
Looking good guys!!! Sooooo Awesome!!! 👍🍻
Glad you enjoyed it :)
Can’t wait to see it on the rocks!
We did a little testing on our way home and you'll see it in the next video. More to come soon :)
Finallly! Been waiting for this video!
LOL - been waiting to make this video :)
Now that's some quick work.
These guys at EVO were super fast :)
Mann if I could press a ❤️ instead I would! I wish I had one of these..! I can't complain about my metalcloak game changer 3.5 with flacons 3.3s but coilovers and long arm is just a whole new level! I also wish we had a professional shop that good up here in Quebec! Love to follow all your adventures and hopefully I'll be able to drive down and meet you guys if you ever come near north eastern USA ;) Ain't the JLX coming this way in October!?!
Oh yeah, EVO coilovers are in a league of their own. They do come at a cost though. JLX should be heading out that direction in October.
Oh and those welds... That welder is great at his craftsmanship!
Tommy is for sure one of the best :)
Can't wait to see that jet flying on those rocks again:)
Soon as we get our wheel situation figured out, we'll try to get out and get some footage :)
If I could give this 2 thumbs up I would. Fantastic!
Thank you, we really do appreciate it and are so happy to hear you enjoyed the video :)
No words that's just insane.
EVO really does make great products and does excellent work :)
@@wayalife I've been looking at them since you had mention them.
Great job you guys on the video as usual! Can't wait to see it finished. That should be like a mini pre-runner when you're done! You going to engine swap it when thats done or just focus on the Gladiator when you get that in? I see people driving them all over now.
We'll be focusing our attention on our Gladiator once it comes in.
I dig the axle jack. Might have to build one.
Thanks for sharing this. I think I saw an exhaust loop like the JK in there and a work around instead of cut and flip? That's new!
Yup, the bracket on the driver side just works around the loop flange.
@@wayalife thanks for the reply. Did the DD LA and coilovers on my JK much like what you had on Rubicat before the double throwdown. Ride is unbelievable. It's a bit of a reality check to see how fast the pros do it compared to some guy in his garage on his back. Lol
Wow, those welds are something else. And burned-in upside down! Don't try that at home! lol
Looking good!
Tommy is an artist :)
those evo guys are awesome.. Man they do some quality work and once again another great video.
Any idea if there parts would work on a Australia Spec Rubicon haha.. I take delivery of the very first JL Rubicon from my dealership potentially next month and already looking at upgrades.. unfortunately everything is made for the left hand drive version so im not sure how much difference there is in everything =/
The long arms and coilovers should be the same. Where you'll run into issues is with steering components. I would contact EVO to verify what you'll need.
Y'all can't leave us hangin like that, LMAO!! Wanna see those coil overs installed!
Project Napalm JL, RIGHT!! I was like, what, it’s over?? I need all the video 😂
LOL - sorry guys, we've been working hard to get these videos done since getting home. Hope to have part 2 up very soon :)
@@wayalife looking forward to it!!
Awesome outstanding job thanks
I knew it you were going to put king shocks just in time before the gladiator shows up
I did have a thought about the placement of the lower mounts on the front axle.. With the lower mounts being moved up to the centerline of the axle, nearly 100% of there rotational forces (wrap) are place on the upper arm and mounts. I know it have been tested and proven but I wonder how much sooner the uppers wear out from this design choice?
Good question
Chomping at the bit for the next video !
Sorry for keeping you waiting. Just have a lot of work getting in the way of things. Hoping to have it out by Monday.
Great video thank you!
Jeep número uno..!
Buen fierro..
Eddie if you wanna get rid some of your 3-3.5 inch lift kit send it my way here in Cali, ill pay the shipping👍🏼😂 i have a 2019 like yours. grear vid btw
SWEET, SWEET, SWEET!!!
love the way that they designed this. i did this long arm last june, don't have coilovers tho
The long arms alone do wonders to help correct suspension geometry and without having brackets that hang down low and get hung up on rocks. If you can get coilovers installed, I would highly recommend it.
@@wayalife yea im working on it. trying to sell the king shocks first but good luck on the new lift
Great video!! I'm considering the same coil over system you put in. I'm curious how the jl runs on the freeway with these modifications? I do a lot of wheeling but I also drive about 1000 miles a month on the freeway and am concerned about how it tracks and handles freeway speeds? What have you experienced? Thanks for all your videos.
On pavement, this setup rides WAY BETTER than the other lifts I've tested out.
Yes Those Welds
NOOOOOOOOO! Not the cliffhanger......... Keeping me in suspense. Man! I need to know how it ends. LOL
LOL - working on it even as I type this. Hoping to have it done soon.
Just from living in one of the Midwest states that loves their road salt... would it have been worth it to use some weld through primer (or something like that to prevent rust) behind the control arm brackets that were welded on?
I guess we're lucky in that we live in Nevada and where rust is a non-issue.
Great video as always honestly surprised it took this long. I thought you had the upgraded dynatrak axles?
LOL - it was all we could do to be patient. Needed to get as much experience with standard coil and shock kits before making this upgrade. No turning back now. We do have a PR44 front but just a factory rear axle.
@@wayalife oh ok I thought you did an axle swap but couldn't remember. Good luck with the build. Man those axles are $$$$$. Looking forward to part 2
Holy crap them guys know their stuff and man they fast as hell.. where can i get one of their stickers from ? Love their logo will put on the back of my jeep window
LOL - they were crazy fast for sure. A lot of care in the quality of their work too. Call them up and I'll bet they can help you out.
Awesome! Cant wait!
Assuming you'll be getting this done on your Jeep, awesome!
@@wayalife I wish! Not yet for mine. I cant wait for part 2 of your upgrade.
Very impressive
Good stuff for sure :)
So glad I get to see you put this lift through the paces. Because this is the first thing besides shoes that I want when i get my JL. If you dont mind me asking I'm sure you get discounted but do you know how much they charge for installation? I would just love to meet the evo also.
Full disclosure, Mel is a close personal friend and the parts he makes and the labor was given to us as a gift. What I can tell you is that it took 2 guys and 2 whole days to get everything done. That's about 16 hours worth of labor or so and if I could guess, you'd be looking at about $2k for installation.
Thanks for the response. Love how professional you are. Whatever their price is I'll gladly pay. Thanks alot though your guess well help me alot with planning.
Hi. I am wondering the JL/jk double thrown down system. What are the differences and pros and cons? By these two comparisons. Thank you~
To the best of my knowledge, there is no production DTD for the rear of a JL, only the front.
Droolin'!!
I am interested in a smoother ride on road as well as good off road capabilities. Does the coil over system improve on road ride and handling, as compared to the factory suspension?
First, ride quality is 100% subjective. Second, factory suspension is pretty damn smooth or at least, in my opinion. Third, coilovers can be setup up with whatever spring rates and valving you want. Having said all that, I personally feel that this setup out of the box is better than factory but it does come at a very high cost and one that will require regular maintenance.
Wayalife >>> wow, that's a whole lotta labor going into the Jeep. I'm most impressed with the welding skills I'm seeing, incredible! ;-) ... too bad the new long arms aren't being attached to 8-lug full-floating axles; that would have been a very nice tie-it-all-together upgrade.
That would be a future mod once we're ready to roll on 40's :)
@@wayalife may your wishes come true soon! ;-)
I am very impressed with your explanation...how mutch is the price of the TJ coilover kit.sukses and continue to make useful vlog..😀👍👍👍
I'm not sure they make this kit for a TJ. For the JL, you're looking at about $9k plus labor.
Around 5:45 the comment about using a torch instead of a sawzall, why not use a plasma cutter? Next you need a hellcat or hellephant engine. It seems that EVO is really stepping up their builds. Great video. Great Jeep. Good luck. Thanks
Well, I suppose because they didn't have one handy. :)
Looked real sweet and great workmanship. I wonder if suitable for RHD? Steve
You would need to contact them about that but I'd be willing to bet they could help you out.
Even tho we understand your friends with these guys could u help out with the range of price for a shop like to to install this system on our jeeps since that wasn’t covered. Thanks thanks. Also why didn’t you go with the double throw down for the front and back ?
You're looking at about $9k installed. At the time, there was no DTD for the JL and even now, there is only a setup for the front.
Now we’re talking 🤟
Been a long time coming :)
Very cool! Man... some bigger axles would have been nice. You probably saw Lite Brite just busted theirs? Mel gave me a ride in his. Couldn't swing it at the time.😢 congratulations on the upgrade. OlllllllO
LOL Same name same addiction
Awesome work! Assuming the rear frame brackets must be bolted AND welded not just bolted?
You can get by with just bolting everything on but having them burned in is what I would recommend.
@@wayalife thanks. I currently have the rear high clearance on some take of D44s. Ordering this bracket soon. I’m just unsure if I’ll use this same setup for the front or go a different route. Welding “feels” too permanent if that makes sense.
@davidamarquez Trust me, nothing is ever too permanent, especially not welding.
Looking good. I said it at the same time you did...stack of dimes.
Might be just me, but the whole tear down time i'm like "OH THE HUMANITY!!!!"
LOL - there's definitely no going back now :)
Does the rear sway bar contact the coil over at full droop? My does. I’m wondering if the sway bar links were longer if that would resolve the situation. I have the same kit in a 2021 JLU.
Sounds like your lower control arms are set too long. Your axle is too far back.
@@wayalife thank you for the prompt reply
What that coilover system that you linked in description does it come with the long arms?
If you look, you will see on their site that this kit is listed under "long arm" kits.
Is there a part 2 video? Or did that never get posted?
Yup, there's a part 2. ua-cam.com/video/Vabax6_tA3c/v-deo.html
Eddie. If someone was interested in this mod, what would it likely cost. VERY NICE!!
The long arms and coilovers come up to about $9000. Labor would be whatever the going rate of the shop who's installing it. Off Road Evolution was able to get everything done in 2 days if that helps.
It does. Thanks.
Seriously considering this for my 2019 JL. Do you guys recommend this build with the b-lock wheels as a daily driver ?
It is ours :)
Finally!!!!
No kidding! :)
I have to ask, and I apologize for being late to the party, but what is the touch up paint they use on the new brackets and frame ?
It's just chassis paint. You can get it at most any auto parts store.
wow I want to bring mine in.
These are the guys to do the work for sure!
Wow! Impressive job.
The guys at EVO do great work for sure :)
So if you decide to swap say a dynatrac 60 in hows that work can they send you an axle with the correct mounts? Or would it be easier to axle swap first then do the Evo suspension?
It would be easier to do axles first and then have the EVO suspension installed.
@@wayalife gotcha not sure if they dropped the JL specific rear axle yet at Dynatrac yet? Awesome video as usual cant wait to see it in action!
At this point and time, what we really need is a set of XD60's as that's what would get us running on 40's
I am assuming your wife does the editing. Something different about this vid. Edgy and looks like she is trying new things. Well done
Yup, Cindy does all the editing and we're glad you liked what you saw in this video :)
Do they help pay for any of this with all the marketing your doing for them? I know I'm going evo after watching these videos! I'm just going to ship my jeep cross county or trailer it.
I also know you don't know how many days did it take to get this done
I knew it was just a matter of time.
LOL - you know us too well :)
I want that long arm kit on my yj