I first laid eyes on this man in 1979 outpatient while in county jail. I was 22 years old I went back out but some of the things this man said stuck in my head. He had planted a seed of hope and I didn’t even know it. I have 35 years of joyful sober living today and when I watch these videos it brings tears to my eyes simple talk for a complicated mind I’ll be forever grateful
Thanks for sharing that , Joe. Interestingly, similar experience, except I was in navy jail, they showed us Chalk Talk film. It was 84, I was 20, only took ten more years before I went to phone book, in despair, called hotline, got sober after that Step Over to Barroom and try........lol. 29 years and some change. So grateful for the seed planter! Ha, this slowLearner Tennessee man finally decided that they were serious about those words "thoroughly followed our path".
I am 51 with 15 years of sobriety. I watched these videos when I was 17, in my first rehab.I was rebellious, selfish and disconnected from reality. I heard Father Martin , but I did not listen and it was not until I became willing to admit self defeat that I became open minded enough to listen, apply, then comprehend the intricate nature of my insanity and how a greater power could (if I allowed it) restore my sanity. I knew people were sober, but seemed so far out of reach for me. There were so many seeds planted at that time in A.A. and N.A. that I got sick of hearing them, but as life went on these were the ones that saved me from further destruction. I think now of the ones I might have forgot that might have saved me going further down the dark empty tunnel of despair that kept me in a state of relapse. The 12 steps not only taught me how to stay sober, it taught me how to live. Life cannot be perfectly lived, nor will it ever be, but the strive for perfection is the path to wisdom. The captain of a ship cannot control the storms or the waves, he can only learn to navigate through them the best he can, for the sake of himself, the crew and all the passengers that are in his care.
I heard him too when I was a teenager, but I didn't understand the disease yet , and had to drink a lot more before I "got it" Now I'm just grateful that I did. .now I'm 60 and I know exactly what he's talking about...Amen
I had 17 years of continuous sobriety. After 15 years I completely stopped going to meetings. It was inevatable that I would pick up a drink again. All the "yet's" the speak about in AA came true after I picked up that first drink. D.U.I 's , 3 times in jail for other alcohol related defences and a desire to end my life just about every day. The insanity of alcoholism is cunning baffling and oh so powerful. This happened over 4 years but today I have 1 week clean and sober. No it's not a long time but I am full of hope and allready feeling much better. Most importantly I got a sponsor right away and I am making at least 2 meetings a day. I will never beat this disease but by going to meetings and believing that a power greater than myself can restore me to sanity I can recover one day at a time. Thank you Father Martin for your wisdom and the wonderful way you speak about the gift of the 12 steps of AA Long after your death you are still helping alcoholics an addicts❤ Rest in peace and thank you for giving this alcoholic a new lease on life. God Bless us all and never ever give up!!!! ❤🙋💪👬👭👫💖
I am sorry you had to go through that latest round of misery. BUT I am glad you shared that. I am only 90 days sober and.my heads telling me I am good now and don't need AA. I know it ain't true and so I appreciate you sharing. Good luck moving forward.
Thank you Jesus that we have people like Bill W and Dr. Bob, and how Father Martin is explaining the spiritual malady to all of us!...Thank you Jesus for these people!
This man is helping me Chang my life....with a wonderful AA group.....there is so much more to life than drinks and drugs.if we don't stop drinking.. drinking will stop us
This man is absolutely brilliant I came across this video I now think by divine intervention, before I am just 2 months sober and clean it's very difficult during this covid time but I am doing it just for today and I'm thankful that I came across this video everyone be well
When I came to AA (in Switzerland) I heard some English people speak about Father Martin. I never heard or saw him. Now 46 years later I see him on youtube and appreciate very much his speeches. When I came to AA I had lost all faith and through the experience I got a non religion faith in a higher power who is always here. I am very greatful to be a sober alcoholic. Sobriety can't be enough estimated.
He just said it at 5:42, that if you don't believe in a God then try the power of the group of the fellow sober people sitting next to you. He's speaking to ALL believers and non-believers Rob.
A member of aa said to me to stop looking up for God and start looking in, I have come to believe God is the love in me and it is up to me to practice that love in my life x
Rob, I have 2 atheist friends in recovery and they both have over 20 years clean and sober. Personally I am not a religious person. I don't care what God is, if there's a God, or what anybody else believes in. I only know what has worked for me. I do the best I can, and for 10 years I haven't needed a drink. Pretty good for what was once a hopeless drunk, I'd say.
WHAT R YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS DOING HERE ?? GO AWAY ! SET UP YOUR OWN MEETINGS " ATHEISTS ANON !! YOU PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A CLUE THE DAMAGE YOU DO !!! SELFISH , SELF CENTERED IN THE EXTREME !!
@@johnmccaskie6200 We build a foundation on whatever their higher power might be and I encourage them to use it throughout the program, of course. My first sponsor, was a Southern Baptist who never, ever, at any point pressured me towards her beliefs. It's about your higher power, not mine.
@@johnmccaskie6200 I'm not an atheist, but I do encourage atheist to use the program. I would never discourage anyone away from what could possibly be life-saving.
Thankgod for this mans simple message,simple and straightforward.if you don’t like believing in yourself you’ll never find GOD, Truth of consciousnesses is God it’s the masterpiece of our nature.... xoxoxo
Absolutely love Father Martin-Whenever I struggle,loose track of my programme, First three steps (with Father Martin) and the first three chapters of the Big Book. As I can't get passed /complete Step 4. Obviously,I must be holding onto something.? So.....it's doesn't matte how long,it's a programme for life. xxxx
I do need people Father. I cannot thank God enough for my beautiful friends and the incredible blessings. I apologize to my beautiful friends for my overwhelming feelings, timidness and uncertainty. I have really been hoping for a little help to pull everything together. ☺
My philosophy is simple I'm learning with step two.....when your sick of being tired of just plain old tired!!! That's when you know your defeated by addiction.
Makes me tear up listening to this. As I've struggled with alcohol for the last 7 years I've admitted defeat. 2 days in. Starting a new life and commitment to AA. It's scary but needed. I'll be dead if my life continues in this insanity. 2 days sober and counting.
Alcohol is death. And before death, there is torture, and the torture is not pleasant. In fact, it is the worst experience I've ever had the displeasure to endure. I am surviving that torture, and I have this obsession that I can have a few drinks just for one night or day. I have this obsession so much that it controls me and I cannot control it. Alcohol IS MY MASTER.
ON the February 13 I made 90days not picking up 1min at time 5min at time 10min half day Right now One day at time I try many time to do this by my self It wouldn't work I'm powerless I go to alot of meeting I have a spouse Don't matter what don't pick up Drink will make it worse Love your self Ask God to help you God will make a phone call before you pick up Talk about how you feel It will work if you working If I can do it you can do it Happy Valentine's day The best Valentine's day for me love my self😊😍
Polar Bear it's way easier than the way we were living. Work it! It gets better and we DO recover from the hopeless state of mind and body we come in with.
you know I just got it. I don't have all the resources to do everything.so I ask for help. that's how we create jobs. I'm powerless in this area can you help me. wow now I can move on. thanks father Martin.
I have to disagree with the priest. Depending on what you believe about the God of your understanding a doorknob can work as a higher power. If you believe God is in all things then he's in the doorknob too. What is knob made of, it's metal. Where did metal come from, rocks. How did the metal in in the rocks, God put it there. So God was in it from the start. God is in all things and all things created by him. You have to expect a priest is going to get technical based on religion when you approach this subject. But I agree with his overall insight.
Father not a weakness at all - a soul sickness with Egos that cannot comprehend the Alcoholic is beyond human aid, Greater than "OUR" self's - In meeting egos can see the sickness not sure who is sicker when someone is already here in A.A after 6 months the sponsor or the sponsee as we are easily diverted by people, places and things. An inside job PERSONAL WILINESS IS THE KEY! A thing discovered not taught or learned - Beyond human aid! God is not as small as your ego want's to make him. but a perfect gentleman never shows up nu-welcomed and never over stays his welcome! -Time is nothing to God maybe to you!
To Mr Swearingham and Mr Edmonds: It is evident to me that both of you have some serious emotional and/or psychiatric issues going on, and for whatever reasons, you fail to grasp the basic principles of the AA organisation. Let me set the record straight.., but first, a disclaimer... I am a qualified and accredited alcohol and drug treatment specialist, and have been so for many years. Second, I have been a member of AA for the better part of 45 years. I can tell you, categorically, that there are NO Government background checks.., there is NO harassment by the general public.., there are NO underhand or covert methods employed by AA (or any of the other 12-Step self-help groups), to cause or induce psychosis, paranoia, or any other mental illness. Your paranoia sounds very much of your own making, and based on misinformation. AA does not engage in criticism of other treatment methods, does not sit in judgement of others, nor is it some kind of group of religious fanatics. We believe in a 'Power Greater Than Ourselves' .., that's it... Nothing more. Messr's Swearingham and Edmonds, I would strongly suggest that you get your facts straight. Change your shitty outlook on life, and stop criticising things because you don't understand them, or they don't work for you. Also, ask yourselves, "What did I do today to help lift someone up?", or "How did I show kindness to a stranger in need?" Finally, get over yourselves, your uninformed and ignorant opinions are not helpful, or wanted, and are indeed, harmful.
Step one ? Powerlessness Hmm ! When you want to stop , can you ? When you start can you control the amount you drink ? lf the answer is no you might have A problem Step 2 Came to believe , who did ? the people who wrote the Book ! How did they do that ? They took Steps 3 to 9 ( 2 days !? its in the Big Book ) clear cut precise instructions !!?? Thats it ! Simple huh ? QUESTIONS & ANSWERS . EVERY STEPS BEGS THE QUESTION " HOW DID THEY DO IT " ? EVERY QUESTION IS ANSWERED IN THE FIRST 103 PAGES OF SAID BOOK , FACT ?? A BUNCH OF EX DRUNKS WROTE IT !! THEY'D HAVE SCREWED UP A 2 CAR FUNERAL , ARGUED WHERE TO PUT A FULL STOP !! YET THEY DONE IT WITHIN A YEAR !! HIGHER POWER OR WHAT ?? THE ONLY DIFFICULT PART IS FINDING THE MAN DESCRIBED ON PAGE 18 , A RARE CREATURE ? HOW COME ? THEY'RE ALL DOING THEIR OWN THING !! ADULT CHILDREN ! THATS WHY AA DOES'NT WORK !! BY THE TIME YOU FINISH LISTENING TO THE PRIEST YOU COULD HAVE TAKEN THE FIRST 9 STEPS AND PRACTICING 10 & 11 WELL ON YOUR WAY TO RECOVERY . EVERY THING I SAY IS IN THE BOOK ! HO HUM . HAVE A GOOD LIFE !
You attend a meeting to fix yourself, not to change others or judge. That tells me someone is a dry drunk... get into your program, work the steps, you do you.
Auto...people like you miss out because you continue to be so hostile towards religion that you can't hear that he is saying that although your Higher Power can be God... IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE. He clearly said that to me.
+Rob Creighton Surely even atheists believe in SOMEthing. This program is more about what you believe in that what you DON'T believe in. It begins with the mere willingness to admit that there IS for sure something greater/bigger than myself. And that's who/what I turn to. If you have a problem acknowledging the existence of God, would you also be so adamant about there being NO power greater than you? If you can see ibethangel's comment about atheist friends with over 20 years sober time? How would that have been possible?
I saw these videos 35 years ago. And still sober. Thank you ❤
I first laid eyes on this man in 1979 outpatient while in county jail. I was 22 years old I went back out but some of the things this man said stuck in my head. He had planted a seed of hope and I didn’t even know it. I have 35 years of joyful sober living today and when I watch these videos it brings tears to my eyes simple talk for a complicated mind I’ll be forever grateful
Nice 👍😃
❤❤❤🙏🏿
Congrats!! Keep up the amazing journey you are now living!
Thanks for sharing that , Joe.
Interestingly, similar experience, except I was in navy jail, they showed us Chalk Talk film. It was 84, I was 20, only took ten more years before I went to phone book, in despair, called hotline, got sober after that Step Over to Barroom and try........lol.
29 years and some change. So grateful for the seed planter!
Ha, this slowLearner Tennessee man finally decided that they were serious about those words "thoroughly followed our path".
My sponsor turned me into this ❤..now I cant stop watching
I am 51 with 15 years of sobriety. I watched these videos when I was 17, in my first rehab.I was rebellious, selfish and disconnected from reality. I heard Father Martin , but I did not listen and it was not until I became willing to admit self defeat that I became open minded enough to listen, apply, then comprehend the intricate nature of my insanity and how a greater power could (if I allowed it) restore my sanity. I knew people were sober, but seemed so far out of reach for me. There were so many seeds planted at that time in A.A. and N.A. that I got sick of hearing them, but as life went on these were the ones that saved me from further destruction. I think now of the ones I might have forgot that might have saved me going further down the dark empty tunnel of despair that kept me in a state of relapse. The 12 steps not only taught me how to stay sober, it taught me how to live. Life cannot be perfectly lived, nor will it ever be, but the strive for perfection is the path to wisdom. The captain of a ship cannot control the storms or the waves, he can only learn to navigate through them the best he can, for the sake of himself, the crew and all the passengers that are in his care.
Going to meetings..im done..doing this for me..
Love this!
I'm 54 watched fr Martin more than 35 years ago. His message is timeless
Keep comin back
I heard him too when I was a teenager, but I didn't understand the disease yet , and had to drink a lot more before I "got it" Now I'm just grateful that I did. .now I'm 60 and I know exactly what he's talking about...Amen
I had 17 years of continuous sobriety.
After 15 years I completely stopped going to meetings. It was inevatable that I would pick up a drink again. All the "yet's" the speak about in AA came true after I picked up that first drink. D.U.I 's , 3 times in jail for other alcohol related defences and a desire to end my life just about every day. The insanity of alcoholism is cunning baffling and oh so powerful. This happened over 4 years but today I have 1 week clean and sober. No it's not a long time but I am full of hope and allready feeling much better. Most importantly I got a sponsor right away and I am making at least 2 meetings a day. I will never beat this disease but by going to meetings and believing that a power greater than myself can restore me to sanity I can recover one day at a time. Thank you Father Martin for your wisdom and the wonderful way you speak about the gift of the 12 steps of AA
Long after your death you are still helping alcoholics an addicts❤ Rest in peace and thank you for giving this alcoholic a new lease on life. God Bless us all and never ever give up!!!! ❤🙋💪👬👭👫💖
I am sorry you had to go through that latest round of misery. BUT I am glad you shared that. I am only 90 days sober and.my heads telling me I am good now and don't need AA. I know it ain't true and so I appreciate you sharing. Good luck moving forward.
same here glad u r back
@@bennyFROMaustralia ALL YOU NEED IS STEP 10 ON A DAILY BASIS ! READ THE BOOK ?
I have just joined AA. Today, I have completed 8 months in AA....one day at a time..
Thank you Jesus that we have people like Bill W and Dr. Bob, and how Father Martin is explaining the spiritual malady to all of us!...Thank you Jesus for these people!
Very hellpfull.
Thank you 🙏
He sure understands it lot of knowledge about AA God bless
Thank you so much for making Father Martin's talks accessible. Such wisdom and eloquence.
"Be around those that are well" = Wise stuff.
Isn't it amazing how we all need each other, I thought that was a brilliant point. No man can then boast in himself 'I did it on my own.' Brilliant.
I'm annoyed that there is an implication that you can't get out without God.
,,,exactly i am near 20 years and this god stuff can drive me crazy , some of the god guys have there heads up their asses..
What a great message
This man is helping me Chang my life....with a wonderful AA group.....there is so much more to life than drinks and drugs.if we don't stop drinking.. drinking will stop us
This man is absolutely brilliant I came across this video I now think by divine intervention, before I am just 2 months sober and clean it's very difficult during this covid time but I am doing it just for today and I'm thankful that I came across this video everyone be well
How are you doing today?🙏🏽
The most profound, powerful speech I have ever heard in my entire life.
When I came to AA (in Switzerland) I heard some English people speak about Father Martin. I never heard or saw him. Now 46 years later I see him on youtube and appreciate very much his speeches. When I came to AA I had lost all faith and through the experience I got a non religion faith in a higher power who is always here. I am very greatful to be a sober alcoholic. Sobriety can't be enough estimated.
To whomever uploaded these teachings, through these teachings, a change of thinking has changed in me. Thnx!
First time listening to this, it gave me hope.
I've seen these 100 times, and never realised Fr Martin said "bolloxed up!" 3:19
GOD........ Good Orderly Direction. OORAH to all who follow their plan of sobriety.
This man is absolutely amazing! 😱🤯....God bless him!!! 🤗
Religious people fear hell. Spiritual people lived in hell. Father Martin lived both and Preaches it. Thank you Father Martin.
He just said it at 5:42, that if you don't believe in a God then try the power of the group of the fellow sober people sitting next to you. He's speaking to ALL believers and non-believers Rob.
It's not about believers or non believers it's about Alcoholics Anonymous not you or me for that fact!
Awesome
Thanks for the video, I love to hear Father Martin speaking about recovery! Words of wisdom! Come to believe that it can be done! Amen!
❤ Thank you sincerely for this message ❤
A member of aa said to me to stop looking up for God and start looking in, I have come to believe God is the love in me and it is up to me to practice that love in my life x
We came...
We came to...
We came to believe...
Beautiful!
Old AA saying.
Commenting 2023 because this video needs to be seen more by people looking for help.
This is awesome! One of the best step 2 versions I’ve heard! He adds humor to get his point across , and I like that.
thank you father Martin you are missed, thanks for sharing your wisdom .
I love this man. yes I know he is no longer with us.
Simply. the best at explaining the 12 steps
Rob, I have 2 atheist friends in recovery and they both have over 20 years clean and sober. Personally I am not a religious person. I don't care what God is, if there's a God, or what anybody else believes in. I only know what has worked for me. I do the best I can, and for 10 years I haven't needed a drink. Pretty good for what was once a hopeless drunk, I'd say.
There is an atheist AA I heard.
WHAT R YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS DOING HERE ?? GO AWAY ! SET UP YOUR OWN MEETINGS " ATHEISTS ANON !! YOU PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A CLUE THE DAMAGE YOU DO !!! SELFISH , SELF CENTERED IN THE EXTREME !!
P.S. WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE ASKS YOU TO TAKE THEM THRU THE STEPS ?? DUH !?
@@johnmccaskie6200 We build a foundation on whatever their higher power might be and I encourage them to use it throughout the program, of course. My first sponsor, was a Southern Baptist who never, ever, at any point pressured me towards her beliefs. It's about your higher power, not mine.
@@johnmccaskie6200 I'm not an atheist, but I do encourage atheist to use the program. I would never discourage anyone away from what could possibly be life-saving.
Thankgod for this mans simple message,simple and straightforward.if you don’t like believing in yourself you’ll never find GOD, Truth of consciousnesses is God it’s the masterpiece of our nature.... xoxoxo
Thank you so much!!! This spoke to my very soul!
God bless Father Martin.
Thank you Father Martin.📿🙏
Absolutely love Father Martin-Whenever I struggle,loose track of my programme,
First three steps (with Father Martin) and the first three chapters of the Big Book.
As I can't get passed /complete Step 4.
Obviously,I must be holding onto something.? So.....it's doesn't matte how long,it's a programme for life.
xxxx
I'm 8 month sober ... Still grips me ... The man has bare wit and humour with it too.
I do need people Father. I cannot thank God enough for my beautiful friends and the incredible blessings. I apologize to my beautiful friends for my overwhelming feelings, timidness and uncertainty. I have really been hoping for a little help to pull everything together. ☺
I COMPLETED STEP 1 WITH MY A.A. SPONSOR AND FATHER MARTIN. AND HERE IS STEP 2 🏃🛡️🍷
My philosophy is simple I'm learning with step two.....when your sick of being tired of just plain old tired!!! That's when you know your defeated by addiction.
This just might be Father Martin's best!
People need People ! I Love this
Just amazing listening to this wonderful man 👏👏👏👏👏☝️
HE IS A AMAZING SPEAKER.
Thank you.
Obrigada por tudo.
Thanks for sharing, God bless y'all
Amen, Amen, Amen!!!
thanks 🙏 god for this xxxx
Makes me tear up listening to this. As I've struggled with alcohol for the last 7 years I've admitted defeat. 2 days in. Starting a new life and commitment to AA. It's scary but needed. I'll be dead if my life continues in this insanity. 2 days sober and counting.
YOU'LL BE DEAD IF YOU DON'T TAKE THESE STEPS ! AS THEY ARE IN THE BOOK .ASK FOR THE MAN ON PAGE 18 . LET ME KNOW HOW YOU GET ON
I hope ur well today my friend ❤
Fantastic
This man is great
Alcohol is death. And before death, there is torture, and the torture is not pleasant. In fact, it is the worst experience I've ever had the displeasure to endure.
I am surviving that torture, and I have this obsession that I can have a few drinks just for one night or day. I have this obsession so much that it controls me and I cannot control it.
Alcohol IS MY MASTER.
I love it !
God bless you 😊
'An unsuspected inner resource..'
Very helpful
ON the February 13 I made 90days not picking up 1min at time 5min at time 10min half day Right now One day at time I try many time to do this by my self It wouldn't work I'm powerless I go to alot of meeting I have a spouse Don't matter what don't pick up Drink will make it worse Love your self Ask God to help you God will make a phone call before you pick up Talk about how you feel It will work if you working If I can do it you can do it Happy Valentine's day The best Valentine's day for me love my self😊😍
AA works for the Alcoholic
Ty Father Martin ty
What an inspiring roman catholic priest _
I wish alcoholism was the only thing wrong with me.
My grandfathers name was Jose de Leon. He was from Zacatecas
It's so hard, but I'm trying.
Polar Bear it's way easier than the way we were living. Work it! It gets better and we DO recover from the hopeless state of mind and body we come in with.
God knows I'm trying... but I fail from time to time tbh.
Christian you are not alone.
just let go. Dont resist it. YOu dont have to "try" Let go and trust.
ZOOM meetings
I sure miss him ? !
Do you miss him to ? !
💯🙌🙏💯🙌🙏
I always hated the doorknob riff too
Me to, through people.
IT CAN BE DONE
you know I just got it. I don't have all the resources to do everything.so I ask for help. that's how we create jobs. I'm powerless in this area can you help me. wow now I can move on. thanks father Martin.
📙FATHER FRED AND THE TWELVE STEPS 📕 Rad Fr. Fred’s experience 🇺🇸
Hey rob... have you read the chapter to the agnostics?
Hope
Alcohol was a power greater than me. I knew that there was at least one power greater than me, so why not another?
Good
Sponsor is missing component in mine.
I have to disagree with the priest. Depending on what you believe about the God of your understanding a doorknob can work as a higher power. If you believe God is in all things then he's in the doorknob too. What is knob made of, it's metal. Where did metal come from, rocks. How did the metal in in the rocks, God put it there. So God was in it from the start. God is in all things and all things created by him. You have to expect a priest is going to get technical based on religion when you approach this subject. But I agree with his overall insight.
God help rachel
Give up. Then win😳
100!
I appreciate. But how can I stop over eating?
They have over eaters anonymous too. My friend goes there and it works for her
@@madelinesantiago5590 online? What's the details
Who's Rob?
does this man know about ROCKBOTTOM i never bother with this stuff i think back on ocassions and it no happen anymore..
tuforu4 this is recovery.
Father not a weakness at all - a soul sickness with Egos that cannot comprehend the Alcoholic is beyond human aid, Greater than "OUR" self's - In meeting egos can see the sickness not sure who is sicker when someone is already here in A.A after 6 months the sponsor or the sponsee as we are easily diverted by people, places and things. An inside job PERSONAL WILINESS IS THE KEY! A thing discovered not taught or learned - Beyond human aid! God is not as small as your ego want's to make him. but a perfect gentleman never shows up nu-welcomed and never over stays his welcome! -Time is nothing to God maybe to you!
I never went in an AMA without a pint of vodka!
To Mr Swearingham and Mr Edmonds: It is evident to me that both of you have some serious emotional and/or psychiatric issues going on, and for whatever reasons, you fail to grasp the basic principles of the AA organisation.
Let me set the record straight.., but first, a disclaimer... I am a qualified and accredited alcohol and drug treatment specialist, and have been so for many years. Second, I have been a member of AA for the better part of 45 years.
I can tell you, categorically, that there are NO Government background checks.., there is NO harassment by the general public.., there are NO underhand or covert methods employed by AA (or any of the other 12-Step self-help groups), to cause or induce psychosis, paranoia, or any other mental illness. Your paranoia sounds very much of your own making, and based on misinformation.
AA does not engage in criticism of other treatment methods, does not sit in judgement of others, nor is it some kind of group of religious fanatics.
We believe in a 'Power Greater Than Ourselves' .., that's it... Nothing more.
Messr's Swearingham and Edmonds, I would strongly suggest that you get your facts straight. Change your shitty outlook on life, and stop criticising things because you don't understand them, or they don't work for you.
Also, ask yourselves, "What did I do today to help lift someone up?", or "How did I show kindness to a stranger in need?"
Finally, get over yourselves, your uninformed and ignorant opinions are not helpful, or wanted, and are indeed, harmful.
Check
It took me 3 1/2 months to get to this point-we came,came too,came too believe-june2022.
Congratulations Van I’m 47 days clean
Step one ? Powerlessness Hmm ! When you want to stop , can you ? When you start can you control the amount you drink ? lf the answer is no you might have A problem Step 2 Came to believe , who did ? the people who wrote the Book ! How did they do that ? They took Steps 3 to 9 ( 2 days !? its in the Big Book ) clear cut precise instructions !!?? Thats it ! Simple huh ? QUESTIONS & ANSWERS . EVERY STEPS BEGS THE QUESTION " HOW DID THEY DO IT " ? EVERY QUESTION IS ANSWERED IN THE FIRST 103 PAGES OF SAID BOOK , FACT ?? A BUNCH OF EX DRUNKS WROTE IT !! THEY'D HAVE SCREWED UP A 2 CAR FUNERAL , ARGUED WHERE TO PUT A FULL STOP !! YET THEY DONE IT WITHIN A YEAR !! HIGHER POWER OR WHAT ?? THE ONLY DIFFICULT PART IS FINDING THE MAN DESCRIBED ON PAGE 18 , A RARE CREATURE ? HOW COME ? THEY'RE ALL DOING THEIR OWN THING !! ADULT CHILDREN ! THATS WHY AA DOES'NT WORK !! BY THE TIME YOU FINISH LISTENING TO THE PRIEST YOU COULD HAVE TAKEN THE FIRST 9 STEPS AND PRACTICING 10 & 11 WELL ON YOUR WAY TO RECOVERY . EVERY THING I SAY IS IN THE BOOK ! HO HUM . HAVE A GOOD LIFE !
Th
Tough
Lonely with out the light
No doubt that baldamore accent
iv never been to a meeting where everyone was well most lie complain or try to pick up a sex partner not many well
mmm ok i feel that too then again i take little notice of what anyone says at meetings, i just being going now for 20 years..
Try another meeting-seriously !
tim vickers Tim u can always find something to complain about.but think it thru.will change u r mind.
You attend a meeting to fix yourself, not to change others or judge. That tells me someone is a dry drunk... get into your program, work the steps, you do you.
tim vickers keep looking keep walking the right way until you are the change you wish to see!
Sure can hear the religion culture being promoted here!
I don't hear it.... I'm about as agnostic as it gets lol.. But then "god" is all over the steps so..
Auto...people like you miss out because you continue to be so hostile towards religion that you can't hear that he is saying that although your Higher Power can be God... IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE. He clearly said that to me.
this proves AA is a god based programme. not much use to atheists.
+Rob Creighton Surely even atheists believe in SOMEthing. This program is more about what you believe in that what you DON'T believe in. It begins with the mere willingness to admit that there IS for sure something greater/bigger than myself. And that's who/what I turn to. If you have a problem acknowledging the existence of God, would you also be so adamant about there being NO power greater than you? If you can see ibethangel's comment about atheist friends with over 20 years sober time? How would that have been possible?
To not believe in God is a belief in itself :)
Rob Creighton at 6:15 he says you don't have to believe in God. Did u even listen to the talk? Lol u funny man.
Rob Creighton yes atheists, and agnostic s can get sober to.group of drunks.
Wladimir no shit!
Rob. .get your spelling in check. Then criticize