This baller got a slam dunk surprise
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2023
- Scott Manley, Anna Ploszajski and Bill Sunderland face a question about a paradoxical piece of personal news.
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They gave him time to spend with his kid. Wholesome 🥰
The only way he'd get time off to be a dad. Paternity leave is few and far between in the US it seems. Let alone getting paid enough to have a stay at home mother.
incoming $20k bill for giving birth tho
You ruined it
Don't spoil
@@ac.creationseven maternity leave isn't mandatory in the US in all the states
"It's definitely the assumption the question wants us to make" Nothing's getting past Bill today
And thanks to that, they went in completely in the wrong direction.
In the words of DJ Khaled: Congratulations, you played yourself!
After they finished their detour, I did guess it. Might have remembered hearing something about it at the time it happened. That it was his girlfriend, was a new and interesting wrinkle to the story.
i really hope they began the conversation with "congratulations on your baby"
I hope even more they put it like this: "Congratulations! You're going to be a mother!" 🤣
you also have no choice but to carry to term because abortion's banned!
Reality mimics art. The Belgian stand-up comedian Urbanus had a similar story about a cyclist in the 1970's. It ended with an official telling the cyclist: "You're disqualified, but congratulations. You're pregnant."
I would have blown the answer with my first line for a joke, "Congratulations you're pregnant!"
Ahahahahahaha!!!
Me, joking to myself two seconds in:
He was pregnant.
🤣🤣
I had the same guess.
Closer than I expected.
Listening to this on the podcast, I came to the same conclusion pretty fast, but it was in a way that would have sounded natural on the Maury Povich show. "You ARE the father!!!!"
I like how even Tom Scott knows the power of UConn's women's basketball team. My school's team faced them once or twice a year and lost every single time.
Meanwhile, I was trying to figure out why there's a Yukon University in Connecticut.
This was the first time that i got it in under one minute and not just at the end right with the players. i really enjoy this series Tom!
Would have been a little bit fun to learn how the testing team reacted when measuring the urine, if they discovered that the testosterone level was too low for a male subject and therefore they decided to look for further details of hormone levels and so on.
It's fairly routine. They are given a urine-like substance, so they measure a couple of hormones to prove that it is indeed urine that could have come from the individual in question. Because as mentioned, faking urine tests is a huge industry, since so many jobs and sports require random urine tests.
I was shouting PREGNANT! PREGNANT! Hope my neighbors didn't hear.
There's this great scene in "Stephen Fry In America" where he attends a Alabama vs Auburn football game, complete with a fighter jet flyover! I love seeing him equally impressed and baffled!
The surprising thing about this, is that immediately after the question. I guessed the answer correctly. That's so surprising
Likewise.
That was my first thought on listening the question. For once I got the answer immediately.
Guess he's going to be a stay at home dad then 😄
For the first two years at least
Or have plenty of time to attend classes since he won't be distracted with having to play all of those games.
Yeah we all know that's not how it works. They revoked his scholarship the moment the stick turned blue.
I wonder if the child will see this episode at some point
A classic one.
I have no idea who that player is, but I got this one as soon as I read the question. Sportsman + test + ban = obviously failed drug test (nearly always urine), then it was just a matter of what kind of result from a urine test would be "surprising", and the answer was obvious.
it's so surprising, that now I would like an explanation of the reason... why did they do a pregnancy test?
I guessed that the test said he was pregnant, but I thought it was the thing where prostate cancer triggers a positive pregnancy test.
Could you possibly put the question in the description of each videos so we can have a look at the question while watching the video?
Huh. I guessed this one immediately. Neat.
I was thinking it was poppy seed all over again
This was a great opportunity for one of Bill's "Act it out" moments.
College sports are huge because they get elite level play but they dont have to pay them. Free labour which is pretty messed up!
At 5 minutes and 14 seconds I thought, OMG urine bag, he is pregnant! Before that I had no clue.
College sports are notoriously corrupt if you look into it. Not to dismiss your points about benefits to women's sports.
Because it's high level sports. Because there's a lot of money involved. Any sports organisation that becomes highly profitable, becomes equally corrupt, because it ends up ran by people who only care about the profits.
@@leandervr the amount of money that goes around in sports betting is also insane. So even a single matchfix could net betting agencies literally billions if they can make it not obvious enough.
@@leandervr "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil."
I'd guessed that it was a positive pregnancy test, but I thought that it was actually his urine - certain medical conditions can cause false positives on pregnancy tests. So the "surprising news" was that he had a medical condition that he didn't know about and therefore needed two years off for treatment and recovery.
My first assumptions were me remembering the disabled basketball league in the 2000 olympics and how one of the teams faked low iq scores to get great players in their teams.
my first though "pregnant, that would be surprising..."
when they came back to him using somebody elses urine, this possibility became relevant again
Me: Oh is it poppy seeds like what happened in Seinfeld?
Tom: [Explains the answer]
Me: So it was like that episode of Seinfeld, just the end of the episode and not the beginning. 😂
cool to know Scott has been to connecticut, uconn is the only modern interesting thing here that isn't a military secured naval base. Let's go huskies 💪
Well played, he created an extended maternity leave
At 0:18 i knew what this was. I feel like I'm a part of some club now😂
I think it was Tom's emphasis on surprising that clued me in, although it was a bit later that I guessed it was his partner.
Yeah, I clicked as Tom was reading the question and had it right
"I've got good news and bad news. You're about to become a stay-at-home dad."
The US doesnt have the 15 different levels of football feeder leagues like the UK, so for the major sports high school and then college sports are the levels that professional teams use to gauge performance
I totally thought this was the baked goods poppy seed opioids problem!
First time I got it right before then.
Some European countries have had police investigations into sport doping. Like the Austrian Federal Police raided a ski team at the hotel they were staying at for a competition as a result of a criminal investigation into the teams doping.
I guessed that was the answer from the start, I thought it was quite obvious.
The poor kid...
knew this because of the meme
This is literally a gag from Cheech and Chong's Next Movie.
Tommy needs to provide a urine sample, and to mess with his probation officer, he took his sister's pee, who was pregnant.
oh my god, my first thought was a pregnancy test
Being a father, he probably couldn't play much anyway.
5:45 He was using his girlfriends urine and she was pregnant.
Baby, I have good news and bad news. Bad news is, they found out I was using your urine. Good news is, your pregnant."
In the US most sports have, more or less, an equivalent of UK's Football League, and below that there aren't really any organized teams that anyone has ever heard of or cares about. College & high school sports fill some of the gap. It's a dumb system, but without it there aren't really any local sports teams.
I didn't get the specifics but my first guess was "someone was pregnant"
First thought ; he showed up as pregnant, as cheated on a drug test
Women sports is definitely funded equally in American colleges. They do get funded if based on success
Not sure why I went for "pregnancy test" immediately, Lucky guess I suppose,
Well, that’s one way of making sure you get paternity leave!
👍
UConn women's basketball went SIX years undefeated. The team's performance was a big boost to professional women's basketball; and also pushed for improvements in other schools women's basketball program.
UConn men's team, which won the national championship this year, is also very well known, and considered one of the top programs ever in college men's basketball - a so-called "blue-blood" team.
When a team (in any sport) goes undefeated for several years, that's mainly evidence for the _lack_ of quality of their opponents. So yeah, it definitely should push others to do better.
I know a guy who found an unused pregnancy test his ex had left and peed on it and was surprised to discover he was pregnant. The baby would be due between June 21st and July 22nd but because the found it so early, they were able to perform an abortion before it was too late.
This was a good thing, because this particular "baby" is usually not found in time.
There is a clue here in the baby's due date.
why did they test for that?
Scott's right that all athletes go through the college system but they don't technically all get degrees, most pros declare before they complete a degree
Immediate guess: He learned that he was *not* asmatic, and so taking astma medication was not allowed for him.
Bill really needs to let the others speak
I was nearky there. I was thinking about the Manny Ramirez story where the baseball player's urine had elevated estrogen that he took to mask the PED that he was using. I think it may have been testosterone, but i can't remember for sure.
I am going to guess he was pregnant.
2:01 - It's called *_handegg,_* Scott.
College Sports is the grassroots Football you see in England. Fans back something that binds them. In England, its the city they came from. In America, its the College they went to. The College fanbases are hugely passionate compared to the NFL and NBA fans. It's a great atmosphere and vibe despite not being the elite league in the country.
another aspect to this is that gridiron football and basketball both first developed and gained traction at the US collegiate level before there were any of their professional leagues to speak of. so those places are where so much of the tradition and history are stored
a big part of that is how urbanized England is in comparison to America, there will never be a big market professionally sports organization in Wyoming or Alaska, but having a college team is someone for fans to have a connection to and root for
I think its also because the lawmakers in America were crazy enough to greenlight insane facility budgets to schools. My Highschool had an Olympic sized indoor swimming pool, 2 indoor basketball courts and a 16,000 seat astroturfed football stadium.
Honestly, I much prefer this to the cities that pay for the professional sports stadiums. At least for a school that builds an impressive facility some of that money rubs off into the academic portion.
Pro stadiums funded by government should be illegal, its literally just handing millionares a sack of free money.
Initial thoughts: Not passing the drugs test is too obvious. Maybe he had cancer/disease, and couldn't join back until he was cleared. Needed those two years for treatments and recuperation. The "league" not wanting to be responsible of allowing him to not rest and play the court.
5:39 : He got tested pregnant. I should I've went with my gut instinct on this.
Is this story real? I've heard it so many times about so many different sports, I'd be surprised if any of the stories was real. And besides, athletes are supposed to pee *in the presence of an official*. Cheating with someone else urine is old -- back in 1978, Michael Pollentier was caught after winning a stage in the Tour de France with a condom filled with someone else's urine under his armpit. Furthermore, even if the women wasn't pregnant, alarm bells would have gone off, as testosterone levels of women are very different of men, and testosterone is one of the things tested during drug tests. He'd be caught anyway.
From my understanding, a lot of the soccer/football fascinated world has many levels and leagues of soccer that sport fans watch and/or follow to some extent. So any given football (soccer) fan might have a favorite premier league team, a favorite team in the championship, a favorite local team in the third or fourth tier down (helpfully called league 1 and 2 respectively.) a favorite team in an Italian league, a national team they support in national competition, etc. American sports have multiple leagues, (minors, AA, AAA, etc) and college is simply one of those leagues. So having a college team you root for and an NBA team you root for is similar to supporting a lower league team like AFC Wimbledon and a premier league team like Liverpool.
Possibly a weird question, but do you watch Vlogbrothers?
@@myladycasagrande863 I see you recognized my example of a fan of two particular football teams. Yes I do watch Vlogbrothers, and listen to Dear Hank and John.
@@stvbuys yeah, Liverpool is big enough to be a coincidence, but AFC Wimbledon seemed unlikely to be random.
It's not that us football fans are confused about how college basketball relates to the NBA. We understand that just fine.
(Btw college basketball is analogous to academy football. It's a pipeline into the NBA, not a lower league at all. The defining characteristic of a lower league is that AFC Wimbledon is _eligible_ to play in the prem alongside Liverpool, if they consistently put in the performance over a few seasons. Colleges can't play in the NBA - no matter how well they do. That's a B-team/academy side.)
What we find weird is the same institution being a bastion of tertiary education _and_ a bastion of professional sport. The two things are not inter-related in any way (to us, at least) - they require completely different infrastructure and support systems. Why are they jumbled together into the same institute? If a kid is good enough to play professional football, we don't understand why s/he is applying to colleges for scholarships and trying to sort out individual sponsorships to survive 4 years of college instead of actually playing professional football for a football club (it is very normal for 17/18 year olds to play in the premier league; I think the youngest to debut in recent years was just shy of his 16th b'day). And why is a college balancing building an effin' football stadium against funding some academic research?
The disbelief is probably compounded by the fact that in most of the world, college education is publicly funded, to some degree. Some countries only have publicly funded universities - but even in countries that allow private universities, the "most prestigious"/"best" ones tend to be publicly funded. So when we think of "college" we tend to think of _publicly funded educational institutes_ - and it's just feels wrong to imagine them spending money on developing professional athletes. NBA can pay for it's own damn player development - I ain't funding shit for them, it's not a net social good, unlike education.
Then I remember American universities are basically corporations - and it makes perfect sense they've diversified the business from education into sport.
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As an American, I find it odd as well, even as I cheer for my favorite college team. I really think it was just historical happenstance (gridiron football started as a casual sport among students), and money helped keep it where it is.
Don't worry, most colleges with top teams are also publicly funded. In many states, the highest paid public employee is a college football or basketball coach.
Baseball and hockey are a little different. The college counterparts are much smaller than professional, and many players don't come directly from college (about half in baseball are from high school, and I think many hockey players come from junior leagues).
I long for the relegation system here...
College Sports are important to the US, because it stops people at college from being recruited to pro level as teams can't recruit below age 21. 18-21 may also be why US Colleges require 4 year degrees for what takes other comparable countries 3 years.
No, US university education is just more old fashioned and doesn’t bother with A-levels or GCSEs. The goal is to produce a well-rounded, educated citizen rather than just be job training, which certain state governments insist it should only be.
I love how none of them understand that colleges constantly shed players, and have random performance year by year.
The hype about college sports, for Tom's sake, is it's something that just about everywhere has. So anyone wanting to be in to sports has options here in the USA, but if you're like me in a state that has anywhere from 0-2 professional sports teams spread across all professional sports leagues, you really don't feel as affiliated as a fan. I mean think of the people up in Alaska. What pro sports team to they have? The answer to that is none.
So while some states/areas are over privileged and have too many sports teams (looking at you Florida, California, New York, and Texas) there are quite a few people who still want to be part of that sports fandom and really feel like they belong. Peewee athletics is more of an event like old gladiators; one shall stand and one shall go crying to their parents in the sideline they didn't get the ball. Middle school and high school sports is a bit too early for really major hype to get mixed in, because it's just high school. There's a whole sequel chapter of education planned ahead if they so choose.
So university/college level sports is where a lot of people jump in on. Every state has at least a college and an university and they're usually getting better funding than a high school will for their athletics. It's the "Goldilocks" window of opportunity to be a sports fan while not having to refinance your home every time you want to attend a game or meet. Sure University/College level athletics can get pricey depending on the venue it's being held at and the stakes at hand, but for the most part, the public can be sports fanatics for their local college/university or their school of choice and not have to fork out $1200 for a nose bleed seat in a stadium 3 states over.
The other element to the mix is that school/local pride. There's only interest that will attach fans to professional teams, but university/college level sports tend to retain some loyalty of their graduates and prospective students. So there's that going for them as well. Basically it's easier for a 11 year old to justify in a simple way why he or she roots for, let's say, Cal State Berkley than for another to justify why they root for Manchester United.
"Middle school and high school sports is a bit too early for really major hype to get mixed in, because it's just high school."
Unless, of course, you're talking about football in Texas. They get *serious* about their HS football. Families get new jobs and move to different cities just so their kid can play on the right HS team. I was completely baffled when I found that out.
Don’t worry, with the rate global warming is going, Alaska will be prime real-estate before we know it.
Since everything is melting, shipping lanes are starting to open up between alaska and china/russia, so the US will have to spend a lot of money reinforcing the area, so its very likely to grow rapid in population numbers over the next century.
Oh, the guy hit it and I don't think he knows it. I bet he had someone else's urine and SHE was pregnant. The funny thing is that was my first guess, but not that he was cheating but it was a screwed up test or the lab screwed up and so they thought he was cheating. The "surprise" made me think he was legit and was surprised by any bad results.
2:05: The game is actually called “handegg.”
Petition for Tom to immediately pin an unrelated comment so that top comment doesn't give the answer away for us mobile viewers!
The top comment on my list doesn't give anything away (and no one forces me to read comments before playing the video, anyway).
Mandatory paternity leave.
Amateur, this is the first thing to avoid. I think even being on the pill can be detected.
Yeah, but if he wasn't on the pill the might actually get pregnant. What then?
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that is the fasters Fathers baby break ;]
Initial thoughts: Probably not the obvious, probably wrong on this and it's not medical. But my guess (because I am trans myself) is the routine test showed that he was intersex and it took two years for him to be able to play because he got the uterus or whatever removed and counted as a man again by the sports ball people? Not a chance I'm right but that's my guess lol.
Kinda ironic to combine handegg and college. You would think that being repeatedly hit in the head would make you less good at the academics part of college. Then again, copious alcohol will also do that.
I call soccer "Pointless" football. American football is played with an oblong ball, giving the ball two points. Soccer is played with a spherical ball and thus is pointless.
oddly, my first guess was that he was a trans guy and got a surprise pregnancy notification
College Sports is the grassroots Football you see in England. Fans back something that binds them. In England, its the city they came from. In America, its the College they went to. The College fanbases are hugely passionate compared to the NFL and NBA fans. It's a great atmosphere and vibe despite not being the elite league in the country.