5 Gaming AMP & DACs to Instantly Improve Your Audio!
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- Ever wanted to improve your gaming audio instantly? These 5 gaming AMP & DACs each are awesome in their own right, and we'll go over them to see which is best for your needs.
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I wonder if he talks so cheerfully in game chat? I wonder what a Randomfrankp rage compilation would look like
You just had an amazing video idea for Frank man haha, I would pay to see that 😂
That's hot
Accidentally cursing
i bet he the type of guy that says stuff like "dang it!" or "what the fudge!" or "you son of a gun!" when he rage on a game.
I wonder how many "your mom" jokes he'd make?
Me with a Laptop: Yeah, I should really not plug it in the front IO
................................................................................................................................still get a game amp and dac? lol
@@icesco_op yeah I'm still saving for one, but just wrote that comment because of how often frank said, to not plug your audio gear directly into the front IO
Very few headphones used for gaming need and AMP and DAC..... they simply do not require enough power to benefit from using and AMP and DAC.
Depending on the laptop might not bad, don't waste your money on any of these "gaming" DACs get a proper audiophile and when you get better headphones it will drive them better aswell
@@RyGuyTheAVGuy yea but this keeps you from plugging into the front IO which you and anyone who hears you speaking through your headset will be thankful for
“Because we would be here for 3 hours”
Very bold of you to assume I wouldn’t listen to you for 3 hours.
honestly if you're actually curious: gaming DAC/Amps are just about the same level as most of the newer motherboard. Invest in an actual dac and separate amp with a real headphone from Sennheiser or Drop (HD58x is my favorite with shiit magni+modi)
@18:30 You have the Blaster X G6 as having no mic volume adjustment; it does, you hold-push the volume control to cycle through headphone and mic options. If you are using the G6 with a console it also offers additional mix options on that button (all colour coded with the LED ring). Make sure the firmware is updated to the most recent version.
I’m not sure if my g6 has a bad mic input or my mod mic that came with my dt990 pros are bad. I tested my mic and it doesn’t work so I’m thinking that’s the issue. I plugged in my Hyper X headsets and audio plus mic worked perfectly
For those people he's also recording into premiere or whatever editing system he's using, he's not speaking into discord or Skype which is going to compress your vocals to take up less bandwidth on your upload
tbf youtube will compress the audio so it will probs sound similar
@@Mr_Meeks He is also talking in a studio setup which makes everything sound 10x better
@@ianbot9389 Which is still compressed after the fact, so not really.
@@ianbot9389 not really
@@epsi9923 UA-cam compresses to 192 kbps (at 1080p) which is more then enough. It is most definitely not hifi quality. But that should not matter when you're recording with a 50-150 dollar mic. Having said that most importantly the sound characteristics for example the mic not having an echo/the sound being fuller is purely caused by his studio setup which due to the acoustic panels etc improve sound quality more then compression matters. People have a hard time distingishing between 192 kbps and uncompressed for example. It is possible with an high-end setup. But why use a high-end setup to listen to low end microphone comparisons to find the most detail in a microphone. Then you should be looking at high-end microphones
You sold me! I've been wondering what the purpose of AMP and DACs were for the longest time. This was really informative. Thanks! The GSX1000 is mine now!
I absolutely love my Sennheiser GSX1000. Being using it for almost two years. The best surround sounds and it looks fantastic
I'm looking for the loudest and clearest sound for footsteps and obviously what direction because my hearing isn't the best so not sure which would be the best, and I'm going to pull my hair out if people keep sneaking up on me lol. Do the GSX do a good job for that or do you think something cheaper might do the same job.
I’m not even kidding when I say that I was just thinking about getting one of these for my speakers and I couldn’t remember which of your 100’s of videos that they were in. You read my mind! Thank you
Heey, really appreciate the info and in depth look at all of these! I ended up picking up the Hel from schiit after seeing how their budget version faired in the round up!
I've been waiting for this video, I'm one of the 50% using my front IO and really want better audio
Just the video I was looking for. Thanks Frank!
Soundblaster is great, had a pair of dt990 pros at 250ohm and it's crazy the sound quality u get but upgraded to the 600ohm version and it still powers it great and sounds fantastic in everything from gaming to just listening to music.
You were right, it is instant! I just ordered a dac amp combo, they haven't arrived yet but my audio is already better!
Me who uses a wireless headset : this looks important ...
Me who doesn't have headphones
Same
I know it’s a joke, but your headphones *should* have a 3.5 mm cable that you plug into the headset. :]
same kinda
There are wireless DACs
using the Astro DAC with Virtuosos via optical in/ 3.5 out and in all my years I am blown away by the sound, it is actually the first time I actually could hear the most tiniest details of sound. Also the Realtek 3D audio is enabled. Blows everything I have tested out of the water, but that's my personal opinion. Also the Astro mixamp software is enabled and the ability to have different sound profiles and create your own is my perfect cup of tea.
I’ve had my (older generation Astro a40 TR) for 8 years now and it still works great
Been waiting for this for forever. thank you mr frnak !! :)
Just last night I was looking for these on youtube, what a coincidence that you decided to upload this lol
This was awesome, know it was a ton of work, copped the headset and the senheiser amp. Thanks bro!
Thanks for the vid man, I really needed to get an honest review about the best Dacs and Amps.
I’m glad you used the pc38x for the sound test. I bought them because of your best headsets of the year video and I’ve been enjoying them for a while now. Super happy with the sound quality but I’m gonna have to get and amp/dac to improve mic quality. It’s decent but not quite up to par with my old headset.
thank you for the comparison! i use a Motu m2 for my setup as I only use a headphone about 30% of my time for the rest I use active studio monitors and a cheap xlr mic. for me this audio interface is perfect!
I needed this, thank you! My front was broke anyway but my cable barely reaches to the back.
No way frank, I was just looking at your videos trying to find where you mentioned a audio port, I can’t believe this lets go
schiit knows their shit.
That amp is fulla schiit.
And I’m writing this while taking a schiit. 😂😂😂
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Very few headphones used for gaming need and AMP and DAC..... they simply do not require enough power to benefit from using and AMP and DAC.
@@RyGuyTheAVGuy ikr? still love his videos though
I was astonished to see the difference between the front output and back directly from the motherboard, Thanks.
i bought one that Frank recommended a while back in his Top Tech under 50$ and it gets the job done, way better than my front IO
Can you give me the link? Or just tell me what episode was it
I strongly recommend a short post called "demystifying onboard audio" in hifi guides that is much more informative about the onboard audio in your mobo and why it matters
It's interesting that this post actually claims the opposite on the subject of the sound quality of the front panel. Quote: "The front panel normally has a better shielding and amp solution compared to the back I/O of your motherboard. Connecting your headphone to the front panel is the best course of action if you don’t have a dedicated external DAC/AMP solution.".
I am now more confused about what to buy than before I watched this vid. x) lol
I was just looking into this! That Was some good timing!
IVE BEEN WAITING ON THIS SINCE YOU MENTIONED IT!
Hey randomfrankp, love your vidoes man.
I am personally looking for a dac\amp to up my audio game, this video was of great help.
I have done some research on the soundBlasterX and wanted to correct one little thing in this video, you actually can adjust the mic volume using the volume wheel. hold the volume wheel until the light turns red.
GSX 1000 with a hd58x and the modmic 5 is my setup and I'm loving it. Also have a Polk mini soundbar plugged into it for when I don't want to use the headset.
Excellent review man , i was just looking out for one of these two days ago.
Always creating awesome content keep up the good work!
Damn, I just started looking into upgrading my headphone setup today. I don’t usually watch Randomfrankp videos, but this has been given to me by fate
The sound blasterx G6 does have mic volume control. You have to push in and hold the volume knob for 3-5 seconds and then you can adjust the Mic gain.
i have the G5x, will try that mic "trick" with it.
Frank, good reviews! I have also mixed and matched a lot of Amp/Dac combos. If you get a chance try running the 5.1 optical output of the G6 in speaker mode of course into the TR mixamp and try the Surround that way. I find in a lot of PC games it does a better job of virtual surround sound than the SBX or the TR's usb version for some reason. Not sure why or it is a placebo? I have tried this with the PC38x, TyGR 300s and the A40 and a few others. You are limited to which headphones due to the TR's low Impedance requirements.
Also in your review you might Specify which games you used for testing sense the sound design for each game has such a great impact on stereo versus surround. Thanks and good job!
Haha I just realized I need one of these then went on UA-cam and your video was sitting right there for me to watch thanks bro!
I personally have the gsx 1000. Games chat volume is fantastic and has brought me back to watching movies ever so often as the 7.1 on back gsp 500 headphone is soo good.
I would have bought the shiit fulla 3 if was more readily available in the UK.
for years ive been using the mixamp pro tr
with game audio coming down optical cable
and discord/any other voice chat though usb
and it works amazingly and allows me to have 2 separate audio channels with out software allowing me to record clips for montages with out my friends talking in the back ground where as before i used to have to plane alone if i ever wanted to record
Thank you I had no idea the Astro mix amp pro could be used with my pc38x headset. gave it so much more volume thanks for the video saved me money from buying another dac.
was waiting for this video!
I'd like to see more DACs and interfaces move the I/O to the rear. I don't think the majority of us are unplugging our gear very often so it's silly to me to have the I/O on the front with wires running across the desk
Alternatively, get something with front facing controls and mount it on the underside of your desk. I have an ifi zen DAC/can stack set up this way and it looks really clean, and minimises desk clutter.
It's for consoles
I am very indecisive, since I dipped my toes in audiophile stuff, I started collecting iem and chungus headphones, I switch so often depending the situation and type of content that I am considering getting a separate Amp that allows to connect many headphones and iem at once.
I totally agree
Fantastic video! Keep up the good work.
dude, plugged my speakers into the back i/O and omg, there legit is a difference, I never knew. Thanks for that advice
Hey @randomfrankp,
with the ALC1220 Audiochip in "newer" Motherboards, Port-D (Front Panel Audio and Mic) is actually preferred.
With ALC1220 the Front Panel Mic Connector has better signal-to-noise ratio (SNR). 120 dB to 110 from the 1200. It also comes with impedence Detection.
This headphone amplifier at port D has a high output voltage of up to 2.1 Vrms and can drive high impedance headphones (up to 600 Ω), which is not possible with the ALC1200.
TlDr; if u have a Motherboard with ALC1220 Audiochip, Front Panel is probably better, espacially if u have high Impedance headphones.
In practice, those dB's in the brochures are completely meaningless BS.
In reality, none of those chips meant for the Integrated audio are actually great.
My motherboard (Asus X570-E) has ALC1220. In practice, with my case (Fractal Design R6) and its stock cable, Front Panel Headphone jack is unusable. Insulated cable might've helped for the horrible buzz, but I didn't bother.
If cable is needed due to latency, I always use Optical Out, from my motherboard to the AV Receiver. Works as intended.
Luckily, most of the time I use Bluetooth 5.0 integrated on that motherboard (Intel AX200). It too works as expected, including too much latency for many Gamers.
Realtek SW is carbage. Windows 11 seems to create some extra challenges.
In the future I might buy a real sound card, external propably. Perhaps G6, perhaps something else.
I have tested The G6 and the Sennheiser 1200 pro myself, found out after a deep dive the 1200 uses USB 1.1 interface which limits the bitrate of the mic AND 7.1 mode ( 16 bit 48khz ) while the G6 is USB 2.0 or early 3.0 which allows high bitrate across the board.
Directly into the motherboard I plug my speakers that have mic and headphones outputs, sorted!
Man read my mind I needed one of these so I tried to see if he had a video on these yesterday.
For my sound setup I have my PC routed through my Sony STR-DG720 with the DisplayPort to the receiver's HDMI. I have the PC's sound through the receiver and use the Headphone Jack or I use the Full Speakers combined with a Yamaha YST-SW010 Powered Subwoofer with a 50" TCL TV for the Monitor.
IVE BEEN WAITING SOOOO LONG FOR THIS VID
love it. keep them coming.
Wow I literally was lookin for such a video yesterday
Please look at a proper audiophile UA-camrs, you will be wasting money on any of this stuff, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about
I'm looking into getting the Sound Blaster GC7 myself. Been really interested in AMPs and DACs lately.
You are using my favorite headphones. I love those!
AudioQuest Dragonfly Cobalt user here. Perfect tiny USB DAC for those who also want something when on the road.
Great vid as always 👍
In the same price range you guys should consider the Fiio K5 Pro, I use them with my Dt990 Pros and they're great not only for gaming but for audiophiles
Fiio k5 pro doesn't have a mic input. I think the whole point of this video is having a dac that has a plug for a microphone. Cause if were talking about dacs/amps without microphone ports then there are a countless number of them people should consider before any of these gaming amp/dacs.
This is some good schiit. Thanks for the content.
Blasterx is really good trust me, the front plugs are good in my opinion because otherwise you’re bending audio cables if you’re running them in the back, the blaster has optical in the back which is fine and headphone jack in the front is awesome and you have a shooter eq for shooter game it’s awesome and it has software too
I use soundblaster x3, good for fps games and also adding mic monitoring if you like that. Comes with app that works well with phone. Pair it with Seinheiser Game One headset
I just got done watching Hardware Canucks's version of this. I'm glad this came out too
Man I ordered a schiit fulla like 3 months ago. They have been back ordered for so long, but its worth noting the fulla is an audiophile grade dac, it will sound better with higher end headphones opposed to gaming headsets.
There's also the Schiit Hel at about 180 that's a massive step up from the fulla.
Just to add: The Hel is a different tier and will require wall power, but can drive a lot more headphones. It’s just not as clean as a one cable setup for power and data, and takes up more space on a desk.
I have the sound blaster g5 and it works pretty well and for $40 CAD. Although it technically CAN handle the impedance of my Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro I really need to upgrade to something better to get the most out of them. Any suggestions for ones that can connect to 2 devices? Currently, I have my sound blaster connected to both my console(Via USB) and my PC(Via Optical) and I'd like to continue to do so or at least connect to both some other way so I can get audio from both.
fulla is gaming just because if the mic input. I loved it so much I got the HEL when I was looking for an upgrade for beefier headphones.
I’ve been waiting for this
Already using a FiiO E18 and a set of Audio Technica ATH-m50x's myself The FiiO E18 helps to open the soundstage of the headphones which is a good thing
Nice video man !!
i was waiting for something like this
Nice video man!
just the video I needed!
Hey FrankP i saw you said in the features the soundblaster G6 didn't have microphone volume adjustment on board and it does. You have to push in on the volume nob twice or three times and it switches you to your mic settings
This came at the perfect time! just bought the Drop 58x Jubilee want to try and pair it up with a DAC or amp
Great video, I would like a dac that lets me switch from speakers to headphones easily... my speakers only have 1 cable (do not have a left and right cable)... is there a dac i could use for them? The speakers are a set of bose speakers. Thanks
Great and informative reviews. I know the Astro will work with consoles but will any others work on the Series X?
I'm enjoying my Sennheiser GSX1200 paired with my JDS Atom amp. Primarily using Beyerdynamic DT990 pro's :)
ive been waiting for this
Very cool and well explained video! i just have a question. ----> Will the PC38x use its full power with the astro mixamp?
I bought a PC38x and a schiit HEL I cant wait for it to arrive.
I use the Schiit Fulla 3 already! It's great!!! It's Fulla Schiit!!!
THATS dedication right there. Would you consider doing a Redragon H510 Zeus review? Or maybe a vs between that and the Blackshark V2 x?
GSX has the two devices showing in sound devices as one is for the game/main audio ('speakers') and the other is for voice comms ('headset') as it doesn't get any of the processing on the voice audio. had the GSX but upgraded to a Schiit Hel, overall quality is much improved, especially the poor GSX mic audio.
I'm surprised at the number of people who don't use an amp or DAC. I will never go back after using an Amp + DAC. The GSX is cool and a very nice looking one. It's a little overpriced for it being one of the most underpowered compared to the others you mentioned. My G6 can drive anything that I throw at it. However, I find software and buttons to be overwhelming. I've been using it the longest so I do like it, but it's just hard to try to get the best balance for music, then gaming etc. The Schiit fulla is so straight forward, small, looks cool, and meets all my most important basic needs. If I had to select one for a new user it would be the Fulla 3.
Nice video, many thanks, ....AMEND MICROPHONE VOLUME....id like to add that the G6 has a microphone volume so please add a note to video that the volume button has to be pushed in and held for 2 or 3 seconds and then the LED changes colour from blue to pink and now you have full contrpol of the microphone .
What would you recommend for a console + discord setup, right now I'm using a portable dac (qudelix-5k with a dt 770 pro or shure se535 and a modmic wireless for voice input ) and I'm switching from a MacBook (work station) to a ps5 (when gaming) what would I have to use to get ps5 game audio and discord voice chat
What audio interface do you normally use for your studio reference monitors Frank? Could it also be used for headphones as well or are (I'm assuming XLR/rca) audio interfaces used with those studio monitors just for them and can't also be used for headphones as well. I'm looking to find something that can be used with my studio monitors as well as a pair of headphones (audio technica) and a separate mic. Might be asking too much, but I'm not sure.
I'd definitely go for the sennheiser. They'd go great with my sennheiser 350s!
Loved the video. I think you should check out the ifi Zen DAC. It isn't a gaming one but best in the budget price section.
Sound Demo Would Be Great!! :) Tnx 4 video
Hi, Frank! I have a random question. So, my speakers do get this frequency interference but it’s mainly from my Logitech Powerplay mouse pad. When I move my mouse to certain spots, the speakers would get interference. I tried plugging it in the back and I tried a usb dongle. None of them work. Is there a different way to help with this problem? Thanks so much!
Nice info, what about the GSX300? Worth it? Looking to improve sound quality, im not interested in fake surround sound, dont like it...I
have an asus z97 using the onboard sound, its ok but hoping something like the Epos GSX300 in stereo mode will make a noticeable improvement....
Definitely gonna use these for my airpods lol
I remember purchasing the Astro MixAmp Pro TR about a month ago with my Astro A40 tr's. I remember the mix Amp made no difference even with hours of tweaking, tutorials and messing around. I'm just concerned with purchasing stuff just in case my ears are messed up or this is all a scam but my astros alone sound so bad for gaming and music. I don't know what to do :/
I've also purchased the Bose noise cancelling headphones 700 in the last year. for £300 They sounded exactly the same, I returned them straight away. I guess you have to spend 1000s just for a tiny difference? What do you guys think?
Currently I swap between Astro a40s and the earphones that came with my phone because they both sound EXACTLY the same, I feel like I'm crazy.
Just a frame of reference; I've been using various kinds of headsets for years. Steel series, turtle beach, razor, beyerdynamic. never experienced any kinds of differences other than comfort. :(
Awesome video! I plug my headphones into my elgato wave 3, and btw has anyone got any recommendated settings for the elgato wave 3?
just an fyi, Soundblaster g6 does have a mic volume adjust. You have to hold the volume dial for the headset till the light turns red, then you can adjust the volume on the mic.
How would you compare the sound quality (not only gaming but also music) between the fulla 3 and the g6? For example with your hd58x
Glad this video finally dropped. You've been teasing us for way too long .
Currently have the fulla schiit, but that sennheiser is tempting.
Great review can I ask please which one is best for music too improve volume and bass thanks
Im gonna buy MoonDrop Blessing 2's, So thank you for helping with my search for perfect sound.