The MOST CONTROVERSIAL SNOW GAME in New York Jets HISTORY | Steelers @ Jets (2003)
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- In a 2003 NFL week 15 game between the New York Jets and Pittsburgh Steelers held at Giants Stadium, the Jets won 6-0. However, the talk after the game wasn't about the on-field play, but rather, the on-field conditions, because in the eyes of Steelers chairman Dan Rooney, the field was atrocious, and the Jets were not prepared to handle the snow. This is the story behind the controversy surrounding the 2003 Jets/Steelers game
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Members of the 2003 Jets:
Dan Stryzinski
Doug Brien
Chad Pennington
Vinny Testaverde
Michael Bates
Aaron Beasley
Tyrone Carter
Jamie Henderson
Ray Mickens
Derek Pagel
Omare Lowe
Curtis Martin
Donnie Abraham
Ray Green
Jacoby Shepherd
Jerald Sowell
LaMont Jordan
BJ Askew
David Young
Jon McGraw
Leonard Myers
Sam Garnes
Mark Brown
Quincy Stewart
Kenyatta Wright
Khary Campbell
Victor Hobson
Marvin Jones
Sam Cowart
Mo Lewis
Jason Glenn
Dewayne Robertson
Brandon Moore
Kareem McKenzie
Kevin Mawae
Jason Fabini
Jason Ferguson
Brent Smith
Chester McGlockton
JP Machado
Jonathan Goodwin
Dave Szott
Wayne Chrebet
Curtis Conway
Kevin Swayne
Santana Moss
Jonathan Carter
James Dearth
Chris Baker
Anthony Becht
Kevin Lockett
Albert Johnson
Josh Evans
Shaun Ellis
James Reed
John Abraham
Matt Walters
Bryan Thomas
Herm Edwards (head coach)
Members of the 2003 Steelers:
Jeff Reed
Josh Miller
Tommy Maddox
Charlie Batch
Dewayne Washington
Amos Zereoue
Dee Brown
Ike Taylor
Deshea Townsend
Brent Alexander
Chris Hope
Chidi Iwuoma
Chad Scott
Mike Logan
Russell Stuvaints
Verron Haynes
Dan Kreider
Jerome Bettis
Troy Polamalu
Matt Cushing
Larry Foote
James Farrior
Clark Haggans
Mike Schneck
Joey Porter
Chukky Okobi
Clint Kriewaldt
Jeff Hartings
Alan Faneca
Kimo von Oelhoffen
Keydrick Vincent
Todd Fordham
Kendall Simmons
Marvel Smith
Mathias Nkwenti
Oliver Ross
Plaxico Burress
Antwaan Randle El
Chris Doering
Jerame Tuman
Jay Riemersma
Hines Ward
Mark Bruener
Lee Mays
Aaron Smith
Jason Gildon
Rodney Bailey
Alonzo Jackson
Kendrick Clancy
Kendrell Bell
Casey Hampton
Bill Cowher (head coach)
It is rather HARD to believe that ANY NFL team north of the Mason Dixon line wouldn't have SNOW removal equipment.
they did but there was only 1 plow. for a place that doesnt really see that amount of snow its not really surprising they would keep more than that as it was the first time the jets had a snow game at that stadium which theyd been at for about 15 years. even the giants prior to the season didnt have many. then back to back weeks with snow storms. they were unprepared but its like when atlanta gets snow and the city shuts down they also only have one plow. why? cause its not that frequent of a problem
@@adawg1125 Yes I wtched the video. One plow is not enough. Atlanta is a poor example because they are way south of the MD line. They were ILL prepared, they should be able to clear the entire field in less than 15 minutes, halftime.
I mean of course it would be the Jets lmfao
@@skippythealien9627 I have a friend from NYC that calls them the GETS because they always GETS screwed usually by themselves!! LOL
seems pointless to be prepared for an event that happens once 20 years you dont need a chicago coat until you go to chicago
I watched this game live, and I swear there was a Steelers WR who got hurt trying to chase down a Maddox pass that went out of the endzone, but you couldn't tell where the endzone was due to the snow. The WR dived for a catch and slammed into some equipment or something like 5 yards out the back of the endzone,.
My dad actually worked for Zofenger and said he’s a terrible person so this doesn’t surprise me
5:27
Now I request you to make a video of that game, aka Snowballgate
TERRIBLE, MIKEY, TERRIBLE!-Christopher "Mad Dog" Russo
"...Wins and losses are what owners care about." Mmmm, not entirely sure about that one. Imhotep McCaskey might have a different take on that topic. But that's for another time.
How is this the Jets' fault? This is the facilities' fault. The Giants have snow removal equipment but the Jets don't?
But what if they won? Would he still have been complaining?
69th comment. Nice.
The Jets was the Butt Fumble of snow removal as well. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Let’s be real, the jets learned from the dolphins , mud bowl and all.
Lol. Oh man. They'll never EVER live the Butt Fumble down. It'd take ten consecutive Super Bowl wins to erase it, and that ain't happening.
Thanks tree.
See? Shows you how proactive the Patriots were. All the Jets needed was a convict and a snow plow.
Patriots got a heating system underneath Gillette Stadium. Helps a bit also. Actually frustrated me as a kid. As I wanted a good snow game.
@@MarkVrem That particular snow game occurred in Schaefer Stadium in 82
Pittsburgh actually comes out on top in all this. They get the 11th pick in front of the Jets 12th and Buffalo 13th. Allowing them to draft Big Ben. Chad Pennington missed alot of games because of injury and Bledsoe had a down year in 2003.
BOTH the Steelers and the Jets COMBINED are WAY BELOW a 39.6 and should SPIKE the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play.
My goodness. When I was growing up (in Pittsburgh) we used to WAIT for days like this to go and play football.
I miss those days. Tackle football in the snow. Nobody ever got hurt, or concussed..
We used to play at a high school that had a separate practice field. It was next to a
home for catholic priests who preached at the church across the street where they
lived. There was a prominent catholic high school next to the church that would go
to the state championship here and there. The priests kicked us off the field. So we
found a local college nearby, and played in a big field. You would play against the
dudes you lived with in the neighborhood. There was one loudmouth Cowboys fan
who would always run his mouth. You would tackle that bastard a little harder than
the others. lol! You know the funny thing about him was the fact he hated the Steelers
with a passion. This was a little after the Super bowls where Dallas lost. But he had a
freaking picture of Jack Lambert on his wall . The one where he was lifting the weights.
Every time a girl would like me, he'd find out and start pounding at my door wanting to
fight over her. The trouble was there were about six or seven girls that did so. So he
knocked quite a bit. lol! He would never throw a punch, just antagonize you. More bark
than bite I guess. I stomped around Pittsburgh a few times as a teen. I would have loved
to have played a friendly, but firm game of tackle football against you. My cousins lived
there, and I would visit from time to time from another state. It's a friendly city. Good
football history. Lots of great players in the HOF from western Pennsylvania.
Reminds me of the time an Oakland A's game got rained out despite the rain having stopped hours ago -- because the grounds crew forgot to put tarp on the field when it was raining in the afternoon.
That was in 2014, I believe it was early in the season against the Mariners.
@@vdubproductions2646 2014 sounds right. I was thinking somewhere in that general range. And yeah, definitely early season and Seattle sounds right.
That's got nothing on the time a Cubs-Brewers game got rained out despite it never actually raining that day
@@Phateagle262 when did that happen? That is ridiculous that they postponed the game with no rain
@@vdubproductions2646 2017...I remember the Brewers were justifiably pissed off about that. Cubs fan here but I can't defend that at all. It was May, the Cubs are Wrigley's only tenant, and afaik the field was in good condition...versus the incident JG9 covered a few months ago when the Brewers had to postpone a home game against the Yankees bc the field was too torn up from a Packers-Broncos game, the likely beginning of the end of the Pack's Milwaukee games.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about another Jets home game, this one in the 1981 Playoffs at Shea Stadium, in which the Jets had to go searching for goalposts.
Hey man, happy mothers day to the moms you know.
@@teen_laqueefa You as well!
@@CTubeMan was it you who went to school with Jon Kitna or was I mistaken? If I asked you this before I apologize.
@@teen_laqueefa Yes, I did go to college with Kitna.
@@CTubeMan I thought I read it before, I always have been a fan of his, but mostly his personality and his ability to stay sane with Bengals and Lions. I remember you painted him in a very humble light.
I could understand the Tennessee Titans,Dallas Cowboys, or some other warm weather team not having snow equipment. But in New York, where it snows pretty regularly?
Let’s be real, the jets learned from the dolphins , mud bowl and all.
Blame the ownership. 😒
To be fair, Curtis Martin, who was from Pittsburgh, always had big games against the Steelers both as a Jet and a Patriot.
Steelers are fine ones to talk. Somehow, before the 1975 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME the 3 Rivers Stadium turf conviently iced over only outside the numbers. Basically nullifying the Raiders best offensive weapons. Belitnekoff and Branch.
That would make sense if the Steelers didn't have 2 HoF WR's of their own. You and the rest of the Raiders sound like idiots every time you cry about it.
Cope harder.
I was at this game. The crowd chanted 6-8 after the Jets won and were so happy and they pelted a Steelers fan who had no shirt on. I also remember George Bush coming on the Jumbo Tron talking about how we captured Saddam.
Jets fans can be real assholes but I do love them because they can be real assholes.
Good times, good times 😎😎😎.,
It was revenge for the Mud Bowl in the 1982 playoffs. But it was against the wrong team. Typical same old Jets! I stand with Rooney on this one. I grew up in the NY area and the people in charge of snow removal act like such Prima Donnas when it comes to snow removal in December!
Great video--There really is something special every now and then about a really intense "snow game". ...but this one never had to be a "snow game". Excellent story coverage on this one. I remember this game very well and the controversy about the field conditions on that date. Really well done.
An additional running back who had a huge day running without scoring a TD in the snow...Jamal Lewis in the Browns Bills 2007 snow game. Lewis ran for 163 and added one catch for 11 yards without finding the endzone in a Browns 8-0 shutout. Phil Dawson somehow hit a 49 yard FG in this game in probably one of the top 3 worst snow conditions games I've ever seen.
Bills fan here. I remember that game. I wasn't even mad about lol
There was at least a little more to Zoffinger's rebuttal than the video portrays. While even the newspaper article didn't seem that interested, it shows that Zoffinger did mention the costs of such clean-up efforts. The low effort was probably a decision to save money, having already decided the field was going to end up covered in snow regardless (though it turned out otherwise.)
Still poor planning.
Unfortunately, this is the first NFL game I ever remember watching
I grew up with Curtis Martin in Pittsburgh and when we were in high school we’d play football outside in the snow almost every Sunday.
He was a beast even back then.
I went to Plum. Graduated in '99. Woodland Hills used to DESTROY us.
@@Swim2TheMoon I knew him when he went to Dice, we used to play tackle football at Frick and St. Filomena’s in SQ Hill
@@uncledarthy3783 Allderdice, that's right. Who the hell was I thinking of at Woodland Hills?
As a Bengals fan who detests the Steelers, I respect the Rooney family and the rebuttal from Zoffinger was trash
Dan Rooney should have been more concerned about the constant horrible conditions at his home place Heinz Field. It has always been torn up even in good weather
I was at this game actually lol. Fun to watch, but tough to sit through, with snow at your feet.
Me too
I was at this game. No shirt!! Still have the pics. Made friends with the 50 people that actually attended.
The BETTER question-was The Home Depot open?
Nope. Blue Laws in Bergen County prohibit Home Depot from being open.
If FedEx Field only had one snowplow when snow like that was forecast, it would have been a controversy. Maryland isn't as used to snow as the New York metropolitan area is.
The fact that there was only one plow at this game was inexcusable. If it had kept snowing, the fact that it was a snow game would have been one thing, but if the snow stopped before halftime, they should have at least gotten the field cleared.
I absolutely love not only snow games, but bad weather games. Those games put a premium on running the ball instead of airing it out.
Post Date 5/8/22 18:07
2003 is the most recent losing season by the steelers to date.
This is by far my most viewed channel, thanks for the work that goes into each episode and happy mothers day to any mom who may happen to read this.
Its a great channel a.great escape from all the bad things in the world on other channels.
@@dustinsindledecker154 a good place for fans that like to debate and make a lot of hypothetical battles of who and when was the best in the best Era, and "when the game was for men" type talk lol
Are saying football is only for men, alot of women like football don't disrespect them, but other than that you are correct.
@@dustinsindledecker154 no, alot of the older dudes, use that phrasing when comparing the old eras to Today's game
I don't remember this game, but I do remember earlier in the season when Cowher complained about playing in San Francisco on Monday night, then playing in Cleveland the week after. The Steelers were the only team in 2003 to play a road Monday night game followed by another road game.
But hey I enjoyed 6-10 that year, because of what happened next:
"With the 11th pick of the 2004 NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Ben Roethlisberger, quarterback, Miami University." - Paul Tagliabue
I'm not surprised that the Steelers threw so much in this game, as that's what they did in 2002-2003. Tommy Maddox was pretty good in 2002 and the Steelers had a ton of firepower (Hines Ward, Plaxico Burress, Antwaan Randal El, Jay Riemersma) that Maddox didn't exploit as well as expected. We know how this turned out in the end though!
Anyway, this was the first game "NFL Primetime" showed when the week 15 highlight package began, and my recording was late, so I was missing a few minutes.
This is the only Jets game I’ve ever been to. I was 12 years old about to turn 13 on December 20th and my dad got free tickets through his job. There was a few dudes in front of us shirtless chugging a bottle of whatever liquor they had, screaming like maniacs. It was awesome. We actually left at halftime because my pops was over it I guess. Made it home to watch the rest of the game the go play another football game outside in the snow. Fuxkin aweomeeeee.
But, never knew this. Thanks for the dope video!!
I really enjoyed this game, no matter what the circumstances were.
Seeing Hines Ward out there takes me back.
I lived in NYC when this storm hit. Was going to a bar on the Upper West Side for Lunch and saw a Cop Car stuck in the snow. I pushed them out of the snow, they drove off, didn’t even say thanks, and I grabbed a burger.
Steelers to the DEATH, but Curtis Martin is the best player you've never heard of...
There's always something weird going on with the Jets..... lol 😆
Something weird has been going on for the jets for the last 50 years.
Another episode of The Jets Being The Jets
@@dustinsindledecker154 meh , from 97 to bout 2013 , the jets were constant contenders. If the patriots were not in the same division, we would have countless division titles and at least one Super Bowl.
Let’s be real, the jets learned from the dolphins , mud bowl and all.
@robert Lawrence yeah maybe you had a good few season during that time but mostly it wasnt that great.
Cry me a river, the Steelers are notorious for manipulating their field like letting the sidelines at 3 Rivers ice up when playing teams that relied on speed and allowing Hienze field to become a mud pit to take advantage of the likes of Jerome Bettis and other straight ahead runners they've had over the years
And that my friend is called home field advantage
Are you sure you’re not Mark Davis?
@@CTubeMan not at all, I' just tired of the Steelers and their fans whining about being cheated when they are guilty as any team in the NFL of such shady crap, they refuse to admit they're no better than anybody else when it comes to fairplay
I'm a Steelers and i don't think we have been cheated so much than any other team.
@@dustinsindledecker154 yea, you guys screwed Carson Palmer and we took Antonio Browns brain
It was sleeting from about the end of halftime until maybe 10 min left in the 3rd quarter.
That Day I Went To Lunch @ The IHOP In Brooklyn, NY With My Family When That 1,2 Punch Monster Blizzard Fell On NY/NJ Back In The Winter Of 2003 & My Team (NY Jets) Won That ❄️ Wonderland @ The Old Giants 🏟 Putting The Pittsburgh Steelers On 🧊 By Our Defense & Shutting Them Out 6-0! That Was A 😊 Day To Be A Jets’ Fan! Go, Jets! 💚🤍
The NJSA was like. “We did this last week, we didn’t want to do it again this week”
The damndest thing was just a few miles south there was no snow at all.
As a jets fan these videos become of what they did wrong lol
is anyone surprised that the Jets weren't prepared to do something?
I was at that game and it snowed way more than 7 inches.. way way more
Ironic that the next event on CBS was a skiing competition.
The NFL misses Dan Rooney
In our defense: Not our stadium.
How did George Zoffinger kept his job after that response? That was a face palm moment and he knew he messed up in failing to keep the field somewhat clean. I don't know why NFL teams keep building open roof stadiums in cities that get bad weather like I don't know SNOW.
the Jets most likely believed that they could play better in the snow.
2:53 So True!😁
I love it when you make that reference. Who knows; that quote can easily be a spinoff channel.
I was 8 rows off the field for that bills colts game that was shown at the beginning of the video out of all of the bills games I’ve been to this is by far my favorite
Not a fan of snow games but I love games when it rains heavily those are pretty fun to watch.
I love snow games we need more teams not getting rid of it so fast
Too bad the Minnesota Vikings play in a enclosed stadium these days, never to enjoy a "snow game" ever again. ☃️
@@luisreyes1963 skol totally agree you have the best home field advantage possible and we don’t use it
I remember watching this and being relieved when the Steelers lost this pointless game. Cause we were one step closer to either Rivers or Roethlisberger!!
Yeah one of the few times I was happy we lost.
As a Steelers fan who witnessed the Monday night dolphins Steelers game, the one 3 years after this that ended 3-0, where punts actually stuck directly in the turf like javelins, the Steelers probably shouldn’t complain about field conditions.
There wasn't much they could do about that...terrible example chief
Something involving the Jets organization was incompetent? Noooo, you don't say!
You can’t talk about terrible field conditions at the Meadowlands without talking about the Slush Bowl in 1977, when the Bears beat the Giants 12-9 in OT to get into the playoffs as a wild card. The field was covered in icy slush that made things treacherous for anyone who tried to do more than walk and chew gum at the same time. Bob Thomas, the Bears kicker, had a rough time, missing at least two FGs, having an XP blow up due to a fumbled snap, and falling on his butt on every kick. But the Bears somehow moved the ball into FG range in the last minute of OT, and with a tie doing them no good, Thomas managed to get one through from about 30 yards out for the win. Oddly enough, guess who called that game for CBS? Vin Scully and Alex Hawkins, along with Johnny Morris. Hawk was two weeks away from the career-ending debacle documented so well by JG9 recently.
Let's go back to 1972 AFC championship game. From the numbers out Three Rivers Stadium's field was iced over. The Raiders were a bomb pass offense, the Steelers run between the tackles. Rooney should've just shut up.
NJSEA ah the good old New Jersey Goverment doing the bare minimum. (NJSEA) is a government agency
The Steelers got the better end of the deal, anyway. This defeat, and finishing 6-10 eventually led to them drafting a quarterback named Ben Roethlisberger. Hadn't had a losing season since 2003.
I'm giving the Jets a pass on this because it's far less important than how they got screwed by the Dolphins making them play the 1982 AFC Championship game in a swamp by not covering the field during a downpour the day before that game.
Jets fans whine about the Dolphins not putting a tarp on the field the night before the 1983 AFC Championship Game.
It didn't look like it was snowing in the 2nd half cause it was raining. I was at this game. I was lucky enough to be sitting in the 200 level. The rain made the snow slushy.
I enjoy your videos but I get a commercial every single minute. I can’t do it anymore. I’m done.
This almost seems funny to me. How many teams have had questionable field conditions that gave them the advantage? I think of Candlestick park and the way the grass between the hash marks and sideline was twice as long as the center of the field whenever they hosted a team that had speed at wide reciever.
I also seem to recall the 49ers and Raiders would have soggy fields even when it wasn’t raining.
...but it didn't effect Jerry Rice? Hmmm
@@johncianciarulo6848 of course it did, but it wasn't as big of a factor because he didn't rely on soeed alone to get open since he was such a great route runner. Plus they ran so many slants... You don't have to take my word for it there was plenty of talk about it back then.
Too long of a video. I was interested at first but too much editorializing.
The steelers always crying about something
They could have went to the nearest Walmart and purchased everything they needed.
That’s not the jets it’s the meadowlands complex
Pittsburgh should've been able to handle a bad snow game.
The 6 P's: Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance.
I thought I was clicking on a Hockey game.
I guess the jets are too cheap to buy additional plows.
I remember this game. It was ugly.
Curtis Martin should have asked for a trade when he saw that he was never going to win in New York he was one of my favorite players in that era.
He sure was a great rusher
Yeah he wasted alot of years on some crummy jets teams.
@@teen_laqueefa why the hesitancy about putting him in the Hall of Fame though?
I’d say Barry Sanders has a bigger complaint
Even if the Jets had more plows, they only had 15 minutes at halftime to remove all that snow. I doubt all the snow would have been removed from the 🏟 field.
Actually, that's exactly how it's done.
@@Swim2TheMoon And remove all the snow from the stadium? If they just pushed on the sidelines, it would have been big piles on sidelines. You could do that in stadiums that played baseball too. Like Three Rivers or Municipal Stadium. Those stadiums had more room on sidelines for snow.
@@mrg8581 As you said, removed from the field, not the entire stadium...
@@Swim2TheMoon But NFL teams now remove all the snow from the entire stadium field, including the sideline areas and back of the end zones. No way would the field be cleared and all the snow hauled out of the stadium during halftime.
@@mrg8581 So what? That's not the problem that needed to be solved in this situation.
Hey, can we get the nfl on aol again??
Try to forget the Tommy Maddox years, weren't great times for us Steelers fans.
When was the Giants game?
I don't see how anybody lives in New York the rats,the Siberia winters,the rude people,the bad traffic no thank you.
Well its better living in Ron desantis's hellscape called florida, and at least we can abortions whenever we want.
The NJSEA was inept here. Heavy snow is to be expected at times in the NYC/Newark area, so how the serious hell do the NJSEA and the Jets have only ONE snowplow in the joint? That's inexcusable. Rooney was right on the money. He knew the proper protocol for this. Also, thank goodness Giants Stadium switched to artificial turf before the 2003-04 league year because if the venue still had natural turf (the 3-year experiment that was the natural turf tray system was a massive failure even in good weather), this would've been an even more colossal fiasco than it already was.
Maybe the NFL should not schedule any outdoor games when a snowstorm is going to hit the area. Of course schedules are released in the spring and no one knows what the weather is going to be in seven months.
so put every team inside a dome? screw that.
Weather games are one of the best parts of the sport why would you want to take that away if anything all stadiums should have to be outdoor
Jaguar do you love the Jets? lol
We all love the jets because they always are an easy victory.😆
@@dustinsindledecker154 We say the same thing about the Jags i mean Zach Wilson ran a 50+ run for a TD against the London Jags so SHHHHH
Well I say the same thing about both teams, even though the jags have given my Steelers more challenging than the jets.
@@dustinsindledecker154 Steelers are old news with Rapistberg retiring
How is it that a city as big as New York can't have separate football stadiums I know it kills the Giants and the Jets to have to share stadiums these two fan bases can't stand each other.
They share Met Life 50/50. Both clubs' choice.
@@Backpackfiles That doesn't really answer my question oh well I guess it's another New York thing.
@@Backpackfiles Does it by any chance have anything to do with Zoning laws as it relates to the land? I guess is what I'm asking.
@@karlcooper7016 ...like the Rams & Chargers...?
@@karlcooper7016 Space and cost of land.
This is so Lionesk coming from a Detroiter.
Lionesque
@@teen_laqueefa Right you got it see I've been here too long Hahahahahahahahaha.
@@karlcooper7016 hey I just was wondering if you were tired or maybe keyboard issues
@@teen_laqueefaWell it was about 9:00 pm Detroit time when I typed it so maybe it's a little fatigue.
@@karlcooper7016 greetings from Cincinnati
I love snow games. I grew up in Minnesota so I saw a lot of Viking games in the snow and they were all great. Fast forward to 2013. I now live in Arizona it was in November. And I rarely do this but this particular Sunday I went into a bar to watch some football. And there were five snow games going on at the same time. I swear I thought I died and went to heaven. It was great.
You got to see the at Metropolitan Stsdium too. I hate that all the old "cookie cutter" coliseums are gone. It's BS and their removal has made the game boring. To me, those stadiums were very much a part of the game itself. They were like a character in a movie...
I always loved seeing the baseball infield during the early leg of the seasons. Oakland Coliseum was the last remaining that still had that feature. But it's now gone as of a few years ago
@@chuckshartz2722 the Oakland Coliseum is not gone. The Oakland A’s still play there. But not for long. They will be moving to Las Vegas within the next three years.
And I disagree with you about the cookie-cutter stadiums. They were a compromise. The seats were not great for baseball or football.
It is better now that MLB and NFL play in their own stadiums.
Because the stadiums are designed for the sport that they are housing. And the seats for the fans who go to the games are much better than they ever were in the past.
And Metropolitan Stadium was a terrible place to watch football.
@Shackdaddy oh okay. I was thinking the coliseum was done for it. They just stopped playing football there for now since the Raiders moved to Las Vegas. Don't they have a fancy indoor arena too? I hate these fancy stadiums. I especially hate seeing them built in places like Minnesota and Detroit. Football is meant to be played in freezing weather
And lasty... did I mention how badly I hate these new stadiums?
@@chuckshartz2722 yes, the Raiders have a indoor stadium in Las Vegas. But they do play on real grass.
If one team had an advantage, I could understand the whining. But both teams played under the same conditions. Rooney, God rest his soul, should have just kept his mouth shut.
You missed his point...no better than the Jets owners rebuttal 🤦