Stargate has been so good at it's own growth. It gets darker as the stakes get higher, and seasons 9 & 10 being the darkest of SG-1 along with the two movies to wrap everything up.
@@darkstar3116Not the best wrap-up to be sure, but they had to make the final accord of some sort. It felt like they still hoped to continue at least for one season before someone pulled the money lever. At least they wrapped main series with two films.
I'm not sure if anybody has explained this so to put it simply. The Ancients/Alterran's started in the galaxy where Daniel and Vala went, came to the milky way, suffered a plague, left Earth via Atlantis to go to Pegasus/current Atlantis galaxy, got almost wiped out by the wraith, and retreated back to Earth where the remaining Ancients died/ascended.
Oh man, The Ori... As bad as the Gou'ld, Wraith and Replicators are, The Ori are just next level, and we haven't got to the meat 'n' potatoes episodes yet, oohwee!
I agree. As evil as the Gou’ld were, they look like cartoon villains next to the Ori and the Ori’s followers. The Replicators were just following their instinctive imperative, though that meant wiping out every other civilization. The Wraith are feeding and see humans as just cattle, though I would argue that they have also malice in their characteristics. The scenes where Sheppard is trying to gain Todd Wraith’s cooperation by appealing to his streak of spite, always make me laugh. And it’s a lot easier to oppose enemies who are in it for blatantly selfish ambition-you can play them against each other, bribe them, etc. When people are “true believers” in a cause, they will martyr themselves, etc rather than ever surrender their cause.
@@MelanieAF The Goa'uld were just posing as gods. The Ori on the other hand are the closest thing to actual godlike beings we've seen in SG. Contrary to popular belief a great villain doesn't need to be especially complicated to be interesting. Simply being a large enough threat to put our heroes in the most desperate situation possible to test if they can overcome it. I love the Ori exactly because they feel like the greatest threat our galaxy have seen.
@@poochyenajones1362I agree-upcoming episodes will show just how seriously they must be taken-there aren’t any buffoons in this lot, they are united in their cause.
You're about to experience an enemy unlike any other you've seen throughout this entire franchise, im so jealous you are getting to see it for the first time!
Speaking of cross-pollinating franchises, another fun fact about the new doctor is that Lexa Doig and Michael Shanks met when he guest starred on her Sci-Fi show, Andromeda.
Fun fact, the new actress that plays the new doctor, doctor Lamb, Lexa Doig, she is Michael Shanks' wife and she played in Andromeda with him (which is probably how they met).
LOL. And I really, really had to learn to suspend my disbelief that everyone in every galaxy, with very very few exceptions, speaks and understands English!
@@MelanieAF I had to appreciate this shows unapologetic ridiculousness linguistically. They have Daniel constantly translating stuff but everyone speaks modern, mostly American, English. I love it!
@@axelbjornsson7306I haven’t watched a whole lot of other sci-fi--has any show ever had a solution to this dilemma? Because I can understand that they can’t devote many (likely boring) minutes of story time to dealing with translation with every new people they come across.
@@axelbjornsson7306Yes, “unapologetic” is exactly perfect for how they dealt with it, and overall I think I’m fine with that solution, barring someone coming up with a solution which doesn’t completely interfere with the story, which I’m certainly not smart enough to do!
Eight seasons later, you'd _think_ people would learn to get excited when Doctor Jackson gets excited; the persistent arbitrary skepticism got a little tired.
the main difference between the Goa'uld and the Ori is that, while the Goa'uld used technology to ACT as god the Ori have the power to backup their claim.
20:32 - I don't think they time travelled. They just had their consciousnesses transferred into the minds of two people on another planet in another galaxy.
So, there was a race of "humans" known as the Altarans. They split in to two factions. One became the Ancients and ascended, and created humanity on Earth, but vowed never to interfere. The other faction became the Ori, and created another race of humans in another galaxy (which we see here). They appear to have ascended, but they do interfere, requiring worship. While the Ori require worship like the Goa'uld, they are apparently ascended being, and ascended beings have powers which can actually be considered god-like.
They aren't just god-"like" Most definitions of the word contain the "Creator" in it Since they DID IN FACT create the humans that worship them they ARE gods.
I'm pretty sure the stones don't communicate through time, but I could be wrong on that. I believe Daniel & Vala are at the same "time" but the planet their conscious went is just less developed than humans on Earth.
That’s how I always saw it-time is contemporaneous, just a less technologically developed civilization. It makes sense that it would be less developed under the Ori followers.
Yeah, it’s noticeable through various glimpses at other villages in future episodes as well as the same village priest they meet becoming a Prior and traveling to the Milky Way that it doesn’t involve time travel rather just the weirdest long distance call ever.
I was hoping someone else had commented on that. The stones aren’t time travel capable. Especially considering that when Vala lives in the Ori galaxy, it’s the same culture, clothing, architecture, etc.
This is the Ancients'/Alterans' home galaxy, they came to the Milky Way and settled on Dakara, and later Earth. As far as we know, none of them went home after leaving Atlantis.
General Landry is Beau Bridges - Jeff Bridges brother (Iron Man, Big Lebowski) etc. He was a pretty big TV star back in the day, and for instance he was the dad on My Name is Earl. The stones are the same stones from Citizen Joe. They will pop up multiple times in the franchise, with far worse retcon and ridiculousness each time.
King Arthur lived in the 6th Century. The holographic knight is wearing armor from the 16th Century. We live in the 21st Century. Think about that: The knight is wearing armor a thousand years more advanced than it should be. We are only 500 years apart from that knight-- half as much time as that knight is removed from King Arthur!
That’s an interesting point which I never would’ve noticed, they’re usually better than that at preventing anachronisms, wonder how this one slipped by?
When the first promotional shots of Cameron against the knight came out, I assumed it was a mind game working on Cam's mental image of a medieval knight. I'm willing to try giving them a pass if the computer running the defenses in the cavern did a little mind-reading and updated the look of the hologram.
Season 9- AKA the best soundtrack Stargate has ever produced: Mitchell’s theme, Merlin’s theme, and now the Ori theme. Stargate’s always delivered a killer soundtrack but they were SERVING it this season. Rest in Peace, Joel Goldsmith.
I never really thought about that, good point, about what a good soundtrack the whole series has, really. But I do always remember the soundtrack from Ark Of Truth, very good and memorable.
If the Ori plot intro is difficult to digest so far, it's because the Season 9 pilot is actually a 4 part arc that still isn't over in part 3. It really is a soft reboot, it's as long as the entire BSG miniseries - 4 episodes.
I want to thank you for the uploads you do, I know it takes a lot of work and editing you do an outstanding job. Vala's my favourite Claudia gives an awesome performance she is quirky, funny, smart, adventurous, and has a troubled past to go with it. P.S., The show didn't want Vala to interact with Mitchell much because of their previous onscreen relationship in Farscape. I'm excited to see more of your SGA reactions season 2 is full of great episodes. 🥰
I appreciate your comment and support on these videos, Ashlee! :) That's a shame; their chemistry is electric, but Shanks and Claudia's is great, too. S2 of Atlantis definitely got hitters
It seems like you missed what Daniel said in the cave, and I will explain the overarching history of the Ancients as one would know it up to this point in the series. The Ancients (called then the Alterans) came from the galaxy that Daniel and Vala are currently communicating with. They left that galaxy, for reasons, and eventually found our galaxy, where they then created Stargates and seeded the galaxy with them.Their civilization grew and they allied themselves with the Nox, Furlings, and the Asgard (note, that as the Asgard are from another galaxy and we have yet to meet the Furlings, they too could possibly come from another galaxy). Eventually, there was a plague that spread throughout the galaxy. To escape the plague as it first began, Atlantis was launched and traveled to Pegasus. This is why the technology of Atlantis (which I'm certain changed and was updated over the course of at minimum several thousands of years) looks different and developed on a different path than the technology of the Ancients who remained. The plague likely took hundreds of years to nearly finish off the Ancients. The few Ancients who survived and did not ascend, tried to create a time machine to prevent the plague but it only created timeloops. Others created the device on Dakura to recreate life after the plague, implying this is why humanity evolved along the same lines as them. Those particular Ancients could have also died off from the plague themselves, leaving no more non-ascended Ancients in our galaxy, but having seeded the next evolution so that at least something would remain of them. Many thousands of years later, the Ancients from Atlantis, escaping the Wriath, returned to an Earth they'd only heard about as their ancestors left at least thousands of years prior. Some seeding the beginnings of civilization among humanity (Builders of Roads), and some even settling down with humans (hence the gene). Others left Earth to parts unknown, while even more ascended. After a generation or two, the non-ascended Ancients were all gone. With them gone, the Goa'uld found little resistance as they parasitically took over our galaxy.
@@darkstar3116 Dude, Spoilers. Granted I realize he's likely already past this in recording (as the next episode touches on the spoiler you referenced) but still, some people may be following the series for the first time with him. But to answer your question in a generalized sense, there were already people there. They aren't humans, they are what existed of Alterans who were not part of the group that left or [spoiler]. This is specifically referenced in [spoiler].
@failwhale34, I appreciate the like, and hope you don't take my comment as criticizing you missing that throwaway line of Daniel's. It took me several replays of both series over the years to fully grasp all the backstory for the Ancients. There's so much information that it's easy to not put together or to do so in a different order.
@@darkstar3116 You are making one mistake, they are NOT finding evidence of THEMSELVES. Only evidence the Ori had a physical form before Ascension. Therefore it doesn't contradict anything. Like finding the Ancient Outpost in Antarctica is NOT evidence that we mere humans existed before the Alterans created us.
The new enemy. Ori are the other faction of the Ancients. The Ancients teach that you can ascend on your own. The Ori tell that you can ascend if you worship them.. The Ori believe in no free will. And Ancients will not get involved. Even if the Ori wish to destroy them. In some ways they are worse than the Wrath or the Gould.
OH, The Ori's motivations sound like the Goa'uld? Werid coincidence, that... I'm sure that's the only recycled beat you're going to pick up on, should be fine.
'Isn't this just the Goa'uld again' Yeah, that was a major criticism of the final seasons. How the writers just recycled the original conflict again. But the new characters and use of Arturian mythology make up for that.
"Uncanny to the 9th chevron", love it. I was so looking forward to the last episode knowing you are a Farscape fan. That was an enjoyable amount of spazzing out! Watched this all back in the day, re-watched it all several years a go and have been really enjoying your reactions. You're a good skin.
So looking forward to your reactions to the last few seasons of SG-1. For me the SG-1 series finale still stands up as one of, if not the most well-done TV show finales I've ever watched. I loved the new Ori threat & only wish we got a few more seasons with them before the show was sadly cancelled. The final 2 seasons contain some of the most creative plots from the series IMO.
I'm not fan of the new bad guys post the Goa'uld era albeit way better than antagonists in Atlantis. The issue is there was a certain level of levity when dealing with Goa'ulds and Jaffa, because they are just not far from regular advanced humans. It becomes more philosophical conflict.
Yes the Ori are pretty much the Goa'uld on steroids. To be fair to the creators, they never planned to get this far considering they were under constant threat of cancellation over the last few seasons so didnt really plan for a new big bad. So this is a little slap dash. But S10 does iron it out more. And while i dont think the Ori arc is strong, i did enjoy it. Again the character work more than makes up for any of the weaknesses of the show.
Compared to the Ori, the Gou’ald are tame. And if you think the tv show cross over are awesome. Wait until “Camelot”. You’ll see an actor from Lord of the Rings.
I didn’t know seasons 9-10 were less popular, kind of surprised to learn that. I know the vibe is different but I thought they did well with making a whole new story using new characters, which I know is difficult in such a long-running and beloved show, with beloved and familiar characters.
I don't think a bit of fencing in college is enough to successfully wield a broadsword (or is it a longsword? I really don't know the difference). I'm pretty sure it's not something he'd get through Airforce training either.
No, that’s not something you’d get through military training. Commissioned officers usually go through normal college/university either prior to joining or in tandem with military training. That’s kind of the difference between enlisted and officers. Can an enlisted officer become commissioned? Sure, but usually by rising up through the ranks. That’s the way my dad explained it to me as he was enlisted in the Navy.
@@lorismith1722 I feel like a better hand-wavy explanation for his success would have been "I was really into Renaissance fairs in high school" or maybe "I dated a blacksmith"
If only the Ancients stopped leaving their dangerous tech around so we pesky and perpetually curious humans don't stumble across it 😂 That does mean we'd never be enlightened by the light of all that is cult-dom, so..... Hallowed are the Ori 🙏
PS if you watch the movie "The Ark of Truth" a lot of your questions will be answered without giving any spoilers for the series itself .. The doctor is played by Lexa Doig, Michael Shanks real life wife .. The stones play a part in Stargate Universe
But I love, love Ark Of Truth, it ties into the series so seamlessly but also stands alone very well. I liked Continuum but just a bit less than Ark Of Truth.
Dood. Gonna meet up with sum new gods. Be back soon! (nope! they were the Ori.) I think I would have shot the communication device with a Zat three times but I bet the producers were trying to get away from using the Zats that way.
They are NOT posing. They DID create the humans that worship them therefore they ARE Gods as the definition is The Creators. The Goa'uld pretended because they did NOT create the humans they subjugated. The Ori DID.
Hallowed are the Ori. All men must serve 😶 A man has said. 9:44 ... 😶 ... 🤷♂ 13:46 A man cannot believe failwhale34 just mentioned RuneScape! A man played this game for uncountable hours, but stopped at least 10 years ago. Is this game still running and people are playing it?
Sure, it was flashy but that is not really that impressive. A run of the mill Goa'uld sarcophagus can do the exact same thing. If the goa'uld can do it then any Lantean based civilization should be able to do it easily.
Remember how long the Telchak took to revive a dead man? It wasn't instantaneous. The Sarcophagus takes much longer then that as it is a WEAKER version of the Telchak technology So YES, that QUICK revival is quite impressive
Can we hit *600 likes* again? See you Friday for Part 3!
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Watch the movie Ark of Truth and it will explain a lot of the issues confusing you.
"It's so epic that all these actors from different shows have come together in Stargate." Yep Vancouver is a magical place :)
Stargate has been so good at it's own growth. It gets darker as the stakes get higher, and seasons 9 & 10 being the darkest of SG-1 along with the two movies to wrap everything up.
I know I wish Stargate Atlantis had the same opportunity. I could easily see it go this far, back in the day if it had the chance.
@@darkstar3116Not the best wrap-up to be sure, but they had to make the final accord of some sort. It felt like they still hoped to continue at least for one season before someone pulled the money lever. At least they wrapped main series with two films.
The medieval space Catholics have entered the chat
this is an accurate description of
Asking for a Stargate setting to not look like Vancouver is like asking for a classic Doctor Who planet not to look like a quarry.
Or an office building.
😭😭😭
Early on they used to go to deserts occasionally, later, though, every planet was covered in evergreens, some quarries.
I'm not sure if anybody has explained this so to put it simply. The Ancients/Alterran's started in the galaxy where Daniel and Vala went, came to the milky way, suffered a plague, left Earth via Atlantis to go to Pegasus/current Atlantis galaxy, got almost wiped out by the wraith, and retreated back to Earth where the remaining Ancients died/ascended.
If I've made a mistake in there somewhere someone please correct me.
The Dr is like: Yeah she's dead. Meh. I'm off. (walks off with better things to do)
Oh man, The Ori... As bad as the Gou'ld, Wraith and Replicators are, The Ori are just next level, and we haven't got to the meat 'n' potatoes episodes yet, oohwee!
Soooooon!
I agree. As evil as the Gou’ld were, they look like cartoon villains next to the Ori and the Ori’s followers. The Replicators were just following their instinctive imperative, though that meant wiping out every other civilization. The Wraith are feeding and see humans as just cattle, though I would argue that they have also malice in their characteristics. The scenes where Sheppard is trying to gain Todd Wraith’s cooperation by appealing to his streak of spite, always make me laugh.
And it’s a lot easier to oppose enemies who are in it for blatantly selfish ambition-you can play them against each other, bribe them, etc. When people are “true believers” in a cause, they will martyr themselves, etc rather than ever surrender their cause.
@@MelanieAF The Goa'uld were just posing as gods. The Ori on the other hand are the closest thing to actual godlike beings we've seen in SG. Contrary to popular belief a great villain doesn't need to be especially complicated to be interesting. Simply being a large enough threat to put our heroes in the most desperate situation possible to test if they can overcome it. I love the Ori exactly because they feel like the greatest threat our galaxy have seen.
@@poochyenajones1362I agree-upcoming episodes will show just how seriously they must be taken-there aren’t any buffoons in this lot, they are united in their cause.
“This is going to be fun”
Vala burning alive says differently
You can’t win em all
I forgot that Lee stood in front of an aimed firearm; the man impresses me, more and more.
You're about to experience an enemy unlike any other you've seen throughout this entire franchise, im so jealous you are getting to see it for the first time!
Let’s enjoy the ride 🥹
Fun fact: the new doctor is married to Daniel IRL.
"Ancient leftovers"
Little did he know... 😂
Speaking of cross-pollinating franchises, another fun fact about the new doctor is that Lexa Doig and Michael Shanks met when he guest starred on her Sci-Fi show, Andromeda.
He just did the season finale on DialtheGate and admitted he was initially a bit upset that they cast her as the new doc.
They also happen to be married to each other, lol
@@jburditt6028 lol. yeah. "You cast my *wife* ?!" 😂😂
The fact that you keep calling Landry “Laundry”🤣
He’s the cleanest general
Fun fact, the new actress that plays the new doctor, doctor Lamb, Lexa Doig, she is Michael Shanks' wife and she played in Andromeda with him (which is probably how they met).
And then there’s a third galaxy, Ida, the home galaxy of the Asgard.
The alteraans/ancients coming originally from somewhere else reminds me of Battlestar Galactica.
New doc is the same actress who plays Romi in Andromeda and is Michael Shanks' wife.
You'd be amazed at the number of places in the universe that look like Vancouver, BC
LMAOOO
LOL. And I really, really had to learn to suspend my disbelief that everyone in every galaxy, with very very few exceptions, speaks and understands English!
@@MelanieAF I had to appreciate this shows unapologetic ridiculousness linguistically. They have Daniel constantly translating stuff but everyone speaks modern, mostly American, English. I love it!
@@axelbjornsson7306I haven’t watched a whole lot of other sci-fi--has any show ever had a solution to this dilemma? Because I can understand that they can’t devote many (likely boring) minutes of story time to dealing with translation with every new people they come across.
@@axelbjornsson7306Yes, “unapologetic” is exactly perfect for how they dealt with it, and overall I think I’m fine with that solution, barring someone coming up with a solution which doesn’t completely interfere with the story, which I’m certainly not smart enough to do!
That new Doctor is married to Michael Shanks irl
Shanks is a certified lover boy
Take that medieval demons episode, involve the ancients, throw in merlin and turn it to a 11 lol.
Eight seasons later, you'd _think_ people would learn to get excited when Doctor Jackson gets excited; the persistent arbitrary skepticism got a little tired.
He hasn't always been right. And we don't see their lives outside of episodes. Maybe he gets excited over things that don't lead to cool things.
Just a bit of trivia. The new doctor was a main cast member on Andromeda. Both Chris Jackson and Michael Shanks guest starred on Andromeda
the main difference between the Goa'uld and the Ori is that, while the Goa'uld used technology to ACT as god the Ori have the power to backup their claim.
They can’t talk their shit 😂😂😂
20:32 - I don't think they time travelled. They just had their consciousnesses transferred into the minds of two people on another planet in another galaxy.
Here…we…go! Hallowed are the Ori 🔥
Hallowed are the Ori
8:48 that's Beau Bridges, the brother of Jeff "you're Lebowski, I'm the the dude" Bridges
So, there was a race of "humans" known as the Altarans. They split in to two factions. One became the Ancients and ascended, and created humanity on Earth, but vowed never to interfere.
The other faction became the Ori, and created another race of humans in another galaxy (which we see here). They appear to have ascended, but they do interfere, requiring worship.
While the Ori require worship like the Goa'uld, they are apparently ascended being, and ascended beings have powers which can actually be considered god-like.
They aren't just god-"like"
Most definitions of the word contain the "Creator" in it
Since they DID IN FACT create the humans that worship them they ARE gods.
I forgot how slowly they developed the Ori in the beginning, my mind is already racing to supergates, ships but mainly Adria
Oh Adria, can’t wait for her to enter the story!
Took a while!
I'm pretty sure the stones don't communicate through time, but I could be wrong on that. I believe Daniel & Vala are at the same "time" but the planet their conscious went is just less developed than humans on Earth.
💯
Hallowed are the Ori
That’s how I always saw it-time is contemporaneous, just a less technologically developed civilization. It makes sense that it would be less developed under the Ori followers.
Yeah, it’s noticeable through various glimpses at other villages in future episodes as well as the same village priest they meet becoming a Prior and traveling to the Milky Way that it doesn’t involve time travel rather just the weirdest long distance call ever.
I was hoping someone else had commented on that. The stones aren’t time travel capable. Especially considering that when Vala lives in the Ori galaxy, it’s the same culture, clothing, architecture, etc.
"One of these things is not like the others..."
🙏🏽
in a nutshell:
Ancients = angels
Ori = demons
Tbf angels aren't exactly benevolent, more neutral tools for god. At least in Abrahamic religions.
@@StaubZuStaub Daniel Jackson likes your comment (about being neutral)
They are as much angels as the angels in SPN. As are the Ori like the SPN demons.
I can’t believe we’ve come this far.
Daniel Jackson doesn't just have plot armor, he also has infinite lives cheat lol
LMAO
What the heck is Andromeda doing on Farscape!! Wait what the heck is Farscape doing on SG1 featuring 1/3 of the x-files nerds 😂 this is so epic indeed
Daniel: *I have no idea/don't know* 2(68)
LOL
If Cameron Mitchell pulls the sword from the stone, is he the rightful King of England?
Someone told me long ago,
There's a calm before th storm, I know....
It's been coming for some time.
This is the Ancients'/Alterans' home galaxy, they came to the Milky Way and settled on Dakara, and later Earth. As far as we know, none of them went home after leaving Atlantis.
General Landry is Beau Bridges - Jeff Bridges brother (Iron Man, Big Lebowski) etc. He was a pretty big TV star back in the day, and for instance he was the dad on My Name is Earl. The stones are the same stones from Citizen Joe. They will pop up multiple times in the franchise, with far worse retcon and ridiculousness each time.
Lexa Doig (the new Fraser) is married to Michael Shanks
*Hallowed are the Ori!*
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King Arthur lived in the 6th Century. The holographic knight is wearing armor from the 16th Century. We live in the 21st Century.
Think about that: The knight is wearing armor a thousand years more advanced than it should be. We are only 500 years apart from that knight-- half as much time as that knight is removed from King Arthur!
That’s an interesting point which I never would’ve noticed, they’re usually better than that at preventing anachronisms, wonder how this one slipped by?
When the first promotional shots of Cameron against the knight came out, I assumed it was a mind game working on Cam's mental image of a medieval knight. I'm willing to try giving them a pass if the computer running the defenses in the cavern did a little mind-reading and updated the look of the hologram.
Season 9- AKA the best soundtrack Stargate has ever produced: Mitchell’s theme, Merlin’s theme, and now the Ori theme. Stargate’s always delivered a killer soundtrack but they were SERVING it this season.
Rest in Peace, Joel Goldsmith.
There's a specific variation of the Ori Theme from the Ark of Truth that i play on repeat some days still. So good
RIP 🙏🏽
I never really thought about that, good point, about what a good soundtrack the whole series has, really. But I do always remember the soundtrack from Ark Of Truth, very good and memorable.
If the Ori plot intro is difficult to digest so far, it's because the Season 9 pilot is actually a 4 part arc that still isn't over in part 3. It really is a soft reboot, it's as long as the entire BSG miniseries - 4 episodes.
Hallowed are the Ori!
I want to thank you for the uploads you do, I know it takes a lot of work and editing you do an outstanding job. Vala's my favourite Claudia gives an awesome performance she is quirky, funny, smart, adventurous, and has a troubled past to go with it. P.S., The show didn't want Vala to interact with Mitchell much because of their previous onscreen relationship in Farscape. I'm excited to see more of your SGA reactions season 2 is full of great episodes. 🥰
I appreciate your comment and support on these videos, Ashlee! :) That's a shame; their chemistry is electric, but Shanks and Claudia's is great, too.
S2 of Atlantis definitely got hitters
@@failwhale34 yeah I like Daniel and Vala as well it just takes them time to get to the actual point where they like each other. 😇
Claudia Black posses a hell of acting skills.
She is amazing in this.
Also, the new doctor was staring the show Andromeda.
11:54 And now Andromeda's cast is just swooning on by the SGC, Dr Lam... She's married to Daniel Jackson in real life (Lexa Doig, Michael Shanks)
Best part of Stargate you’re entering.
Let’s get it!
Hallowed are the Ori! Hallowed are the Leftovers!
Hallowed ARE the Ori.
It seems like you missed what Daniel said in the cave, and I will explain the overarching history of the Ancients as one would know it up to this point in the series.
The Ancients (called then the Alterans) came from the galaxy that Daniel and Vala are currently communicating with. They left that galaxy, for reasons, and eventually found our galaxy, where they then created Stargates and seeded the galaxy with them.Their civilization grew and they allied themselves with the Nox, Furlings, and the Asgard (note, that as the Asgard are from another galaxy and we have yet to meet the Furlings, they too could possibly come from another galaxy). Eventually, there was a plague that spread throughout the galaxy. To escape the plague as it first began, Atlantis was launched and traveled to Pegasus. This is why the technology of Atlantis (which I'm certain changed and was updated over the course of at minimum several thousands of years) looks different and developed on a different path than the technology of the Ancients who remained.
The plague likely took hundreds of years to nearly finish off the Ancients. The few Ancients who survived and did not ascend, tried to create a time machine to prevent the plague but it only created timeloops. Others created the device on Dakura to recreate life after the plague, implying this is why humanity evolved along the same lines as them. Those particular Ancients could have also died off from the plague themselves, leaving no more non-ascended Ancients in our galaxy, but having seeded the next evolution so that at least something would remain of them.
Many thousands of years later, the Ancients from Atlantis, escaping the Wriath, returned to an Earth they'd only heard about as their ancestors left at least thousands of years prior. Some seeding the beginnings of civilization among humanity (Builders of Roads), and some even settling down with humans (hence the gene). Others left Earth to parts unknown, while even more ascended. After a generation or two, the non-ascended Ancients were all gone. With them gone, the Goa'uld found little resistance as they parasitically took over our galaxy.
@@darkstar3116 Dude, Spoilers. Granted I realize he's likely already past this in recording (as the next episode touches on the spoiler you referenced) but still, some people may be following the series for the first time with him.
But to answer your question in a generalized sense, there were already people there. They aren't humans, they are what existed of Alterans who were not part of the group that left or [spoiler]. This is specifically referenced in [spoiler].
@failwhale34, I appreciate the like, and hope you don't take my comment as criticizing you missing that throwaway line of Daniel's. It took me several replays of both series over the years to fully grasp all the backstory for the Ancients. There's so much information that it's easy to not put together or to do so in a different order.
@@darkstar3116
You are making one mistake, they are NOT finding evidence of THEMSELVES. Only evidence the Ori had a physical form before Ascension.
Therefore it doesn't contradict anything.
Like finding the Ancient Outpost in Antarctica is NOT evidence that we mere humans existed before the Alterans created us.
Vala being burned alive like that royally pissed me off. I say go full anubis on that town.
First off, I'm so appreciative of your videos!! Your hype reaction always improve my mood.
Hallowed are the Ori
Embrace Origin.
Indeed
Ori are the Hallowed
Kree Ori.. kneel before ur God
The difference between the Ori and the Goa'uld is that maybe the Ori are actually gods.
there it is
The new enemy. Ori are the other faction of the Ancients. The Ancients teach that you can ascend on your own. The Ori tell that you can ascend if you worship them.. The Ori believe in no free will. And Ancients will not get involved. Even if the Ori wish to destroy them. In some ways they are worse than the Wrath or the Gould.
OH, The Ori's motivations sound like the Goa'uld? Werid coincidence, that... I'm sure that's the only recycled beat you're going to pick up on, should be fine.
Hallowed ARE the Ori.
Hallowed ARE the Ori
"All hallow the Ori"
( chorus ) "All hallow the Ori"
And that's when the situation went bad.
Hallowed are the Ori
'Isn't this just the Goa'uld again'
Yeah, that was a major criticism of the final seasons. How the writers just recycled the original conflict again. But the new characters and use of Arturian mythology make up for that.
The new Dr Frazier is Daniel wife in real life. Hope one day you scream Andromeda series .
"Uncanny to the 9th chevron", love it. I was so looking forward to the last episode knowing you are a Farscape fan. That was an enjoyable amount of spazzing out! Watched this all back in the day, re-watched it all several years a go and have been really enjoying your reactions. You're a good skin.
Glad you're enjoying the reactions and watch along this time Karl! Also, I've never heard that expression before, what's that mean?
just means a good bloke.@@failwhale34
1:00 Even if Daniel dies. He gets out of it :D
Hallowed be the ORI
Rommie is in the chat! Love her as the new doctor.
Woop woop!
you get a like before i even watch it
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FYI, Lexa Doig and Michael Shanks are married at time of shooting these episodes. IIRC
So looking forward to your reactions to the last few seasons of SG-1. For me the SG-1 series finale still stands up as one of, if not the most well-done TV show finales I've ever watched.
I loved the new Ori threat & only wish we got a few more seasons with them before the show was sadly cancelled. The final 2 seasons contain some of the most creative plots from the series IMO.
hope you enjoy the reactions :) got plenty of SGA and some SGU to come too. They do get creative eh
It's possible they used the same stone village for many episodes.
"This could be dangerous"
... uuhh yea!
Oooooh ya
The new general is Beau Bridges, older brother of Jeff Bridges.
Hi! What is the music at the end where they praise the Ori?
Great two Part of Stargte SG-1.
agreed Hallowed are the Ori.
Loved RuneScape. Definitely reminds me of it.
RUNEscape a classic, same with Maplestory.
I'm not fan of the new bad guys post the Goa'uld era albeit way better than antagonists in Atlantis. The issue is there was a certain level of levity when dealing with Goa'ulds and Jaffa, because they are just not far from regular advanced humans. It becomes more philosophical conflict.
Yes the Ori are pretty much the Goa'uld on steroids.
To be fair to the creators, they never planned to get this far considering they were under constant threat of cancellation over the last few seasons so didnt really plan for a new big bad. So this is a little slap dash.
But S10 does iron it out more. And while i dont think the Ori arc is strong, i did enjoy it.
Again the character work more than makes up for any of the weaknesses of the show.
Na dude your understand of the ancients and Ori is spot on!!
Ayyy
Hallowed are the Ori!
Hallowed ARE the Ori.
Compared to the Ori, the Gou’ald are tame.
And if you think the tv show cross over are awesome. Wait until “Camelot”. You’ll see an actor from Lord of the Rings.
I love season 9 and 10 more than season 8 actually :D don't know why people hate it
Would love to hear people's criticisms as we got through it together!
I didn’t know seasons 9-10 were less popular, kind of surprised to learn that. I know the vibe is different but I thought they did well with making a whole new story using new characters, which I know is difficult in such a long-running and beloved show, with beloved and familiar characters.
So the lacking reaction to Alexa Doig tells me failwhale missed Andromeda where Lex Doig and Michael Shank met each other.
I don't think a bit of fencing in college is enough to successfully wield a broadsword (or is it a longsword? I really don't know the difference). I'm pretty sure it's not something he'd get through Airforce training either.
No, that’s not something you’d get through military training. Commissioned officers usually go through normal college/university either prior to joining or in tandem with military training. That’s kind of the difference between enlisted and officers. Can an enlisted officer become commissioned? Sure, but usually by rising up through the ranks. That’s the way my dad explained it to me as he was enlisted in the Navy.
@@lorismith1722 I feel like a better hand-wavy explanation for his success would have been "I was really into Renaissance fairs in high school" or maybe "I dated a blacksmith"
@@StarkRG I like that. I think it would have added a little more dimension to his character. Not that it was lacking.
If only the Ancients stopped leaving their dangerous tech around so we pesky and perpetually curious humans don't stumble across it 😂
That does mean we'd never be enlightened by the light of all that is cult-dom, so.....
Hallowed are the Ori 🙏
They just left tech Everywhere, different factions, really was a mess 😭
Sanctus Ori, Omni Ori!
I really hope FW has been watching Game of Thrones as well, just so I can see him lose his shit even more when Ronon shows up.
yup! Reacted to S7-S8 :) on the channel
PS if you watch the movie "The Ark of Truth" a lot of your questions will be answered without giving any spoilers for the series itself .. The doctor is played by Lexa Doig, Michael Shanks real life wife .. The stones play a part in Stargate Universe
The Ark of Truth will arrive.
and I've never seen a small piece of tech be so integral to a spin-off lol
Honestly, all the use of the stones in SGU was one of the plot devices which irritated me.
But I love, love Ark Of Truth, it ties into the series so seamlessly but also stands alone very well. I liked Continuum but just a bit less than Ark Of Truth.
Lexa also played the Andromeda AI on Gene Roddenberry’s Andromeda
I cannot wait for the next episode. XD
See ya Friday!
Dood. Gonna meet up with sum new gods. Be back soon! (nope! they were the Ori.)
I think I would have shot the communication device with a Zat three times but I bet the producers were trying to get away from using the Zats that way.
Zats don't always work on everything or everyone
Remember Aris Boch, "that tickles"
Yes, the Ori are posing as Gods like the Ghoul except... they are closer to being "Gods" than those snakes. 🤐
Hallowed are the Ori!
Hallowed are the Ori
They are NOT posing.
They DID create the humans that worship them therefore they ARE Gods as the definition is The Creators.
The Goa'uld pretended because they did NOT create the humans they subjugated. The Ori DID.
Buckle up, buttercup.......
oooooh baby, dial the gate
Good episode.
First time I watched this and Vala was burning....oe that was rough. It will get dark.
frfr, but also some fire episodes🔥
Hallowed are the Ori.
All men must serve
😶 A man has said.
9:44 ... 😶 ... 🤷♂
13:46 A man cannot believe failwhale34 just mentioned RuneScape! A man played this game for uncountable hours, but stopped at least 10 years ago. Is this game still running and people are playing it?
Hallowed are the Ori
Sure, it was flashy but that is not really that impressive. A run of the mill Goa'uld sarcophagus can do the exact same thing. If the goa'uld can do it then any Lantean based civilization should be able to do it easily.
Remember how long the Telchak took to revive a dead man? It wasn't instantaneous.
The Sarcophagus takes much longer then that as it is a WEAKER version of the Telchak technology
So YES, that QUICK revival is quite impressive
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It IS mentioned. OR have you forgotten Evolution part 2?
Personally I'd be perfectly happy being chained up with Vala. J/S 😊
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Indeed
Have you ever thought of not shouting?
The Ori? Pffft, dudes don't even have a good recipe for pie crust