Why is South Africa Suing Israel For Genocide? | Vantage with Palki Sharma
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- Why is South Africa Suing Israel For Genocide? | Vantage with Palki Sharma
South Africa has filed a lawsuit at the International Court of Justice, accusing Israel of committing genocide against Palestinians. Can the lawsuit stop Israel's war? Why is South Africa, of all countries, taking on Israel? Palki Sharma tells you.
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Will the Israel-Hamas conflict spill over into a wider war?
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Not conflict "jenocide" write it correctly
It's not a "war". In a war both sides have weapons. This is Army vs Unarmed Civilians. Stop calling it a war and miss-informing the world.
I greatly admire and respect Nelson Mandela... I really do. But, he too (like many around the world) missed one critically important factor while feeling empathy for Palestinians - Their ingrained "hatred" for Jews! A hatred so strong that they want them exterminated!!! 😳(There is a very long history there as well.)
And, I think, this is why the South Africans may not win their case... But, yes, it is nevertheless a risky move by the Israelis to challenge the case. We shall see what happens.
P.S.
I could be wrong, but I was thinking that it might be Russia that is influencing South Africa to launch that ICJ case... Basically to harass the U.S.? It's possible, no?
Hope that answers your question... Sort of? I mean, there is a larger conflict being waged, behind the curtains, by two major superpowers... And, there is always a chance it could escalate.
Yes, Israel is trying to bait US/U.K into the wider of war into Iran and attack Iran as excuse. Israel has been trying to do for years. I remember Reagan asked to stop it back in mid 1980's. Go back look at it.
Isn't it already? USA and Russia meddling `behind the scenes´, plus enemies of involved nations backing & bankrolling whoever they consider useful pawns. 🤔
Why do we even have an ICJ or UN? Both seems to consistently fail to live up to their charter or purpose.
Both useless organisations
Most country leaders in the world are puppet govt of the colonists under the control of US, Uk and europeans nation thats why UN is useless, UN collects fee from them.
They literally corrupt and still from African countries followed by covering up their tracks. Facts!
The UN is a toothless bulldog
Its a place to talk sh*t and get well paid.
South Africa's case against Israel is more about highlighting the flaws of the powers of the UNSC and therefore accelerate the pace of the demands for the transformation of the UN
Reminds me of corporate life, highlighting issues but no action to resolve them.
@@muso9539just wait and see. This is the time....
The UN and WHO both need to be defunded immediately. They no longer serve any useful purpose. 50,000 christians have been massacred in Nigeria by muslims, but nothing is done. And so on and so on.
True
South Africa knows full well that nothing is going to happen to Israel... not with backing of America and the West
As you say... it's just about exposing the flaws in UN
Did you even read the 84 page lawsuit??????? It talks of the genocide norms.
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SA is 5 yrs away from becoming another basket case, like its neighbour Zimbabwe.
But sure, suing Israel is definitely the top priority for it at the moment.
You want to put money on that mate? 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
What has that got to do with South Africa saying the truth? I believe your dislike for Africans clouds your judgment.
Good thing, they are in cahoot with India then.. and Russia.. and China.. and Iran..
Justice does not exist. If you want justice,you make justice.
Israel think it’s Justice to run millions of Palestinians out of their homes, and give it to Jews only.
@@amatyaucran2214chaia chaia prindapan, cow pee cow dung are good good good
No nuke or drone strike@@amatyaucran2214
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not when only certain countries control the word "terrorism"
Will South Africa be suing Russia as well?
Very good question ⁉️
They're a bunch of hypocrites. Sudan is a very close black nation to them in the same Africa. That's where real genocide and ethnic cleansing is taking place. What has south Africa said or done about it?
Ethnic cleansing black on black sudanes fighting each then you say its ethnic cleansing hows that possible😂😂
The world court’s precedents allowed any country to report acts of genocide even if that country have no relations with the conflict.
That means you can vote for candidates that can bring genocidal countries to justice. Maybe you can get your own country to report Russia instead relying on S.A to handle all the global conflicts.
No one defended Russia. When literally almost evert western country support actively by all means the occupation .
And it has been going for decades.
Also, funny coming for an American when your country was the number one reason why Putin invaded Ukraine and now you dropped them and let them down knowing fully they will not be able to defeat Russia .
Please do not confuse South Africa with the ANC! This is an ANC initiative.
SA have 60 million voices. Nothing to do with this event
The AFRICAN NATIONAL CONGRESS.... is the ruling party....in Central govt. No difference......love from.South Africa.....
Supported by most South Africans with a brain 🧠
@@ramasodimalete7193 probably the size of the one at the end of your comment……
@@eunallmaharaj8583 Saying the ANC speaks for all South Africans is like declaring one playlist suits the musical taste of an entire nation. It’s catchy for some, but others might be changing the channel.
South Africa and Cyril must focus on all the problems in south Africa...crime and murder and corruption is a priority...
And as well as returning stolen land to the rightful owners “the black people”
So before helping anyone in the world a country should be perfect and problem free? In that case why did any country help south africa to be liberated from the apartheid government, they should have all focused on improving their own countries
@@matthew_swanepoel this is why Mandela said what he said to these people. We believe in Ubuntu us these ones clearly don’t!
@Johanna-tz9mg It's almost as if a nation can multitask - addressing internal issues while also advocating for human rights globally. Who knew? #ChewOutRacism
Facts tho 😂
South Africa is a starving home, not because they have no food, but because the ones in charge can't cook. Learn to cook your own meals first.
Learn to use some brain before that
Sums ot up perfectly. South africa is rich in resorces, population and economic potential, but for the ruling elites, a poor country is easier to control.
They actually steal the "meals" from those of us who can "cook".
The dumbest comments I've come across
Like your figure speech, but it's definitely not far fetch. Its actually the truth
Has anyone taken note another around of killing by the Fulani Muslimist group in Nigeria in the last 24 hours of Christians- in the state of Kaduna?
Perhaps no one pays any attention because it is in Africa.In S.A.we haven't heard a peep out of the ANC re this.
SA and other liberals remain silent cos the aggressor is not aligned to USA.. Anyone aligned to especially USA is the aggressor.. Even if they are the victim, they are perceived as the ones to blame simple cos of hatred to the USA/West.
Yes, but the ANC government only care about racism and bigotry by them against Israel.
No one is paying them to object to the slaughter going on in Nigeria. By Muslim thugs
No one will ever say anything, because it's Muslims ... If it was Christians killing Muslims , it was would've been headline news ..
They couldn't care less about Christians
South Africa itself ignored to uphold the ICC rulling by not arresting Al Bashir of Sudan😮😮😮
The ICC is different to the ICJ. The ICC has a very dubious dislike for pursuing any western leaders. The ICC is broadly considered without credibility by most of the world outside “The West”.
That is why South Africa is suing Israel via the ICJ, as unlike the ICC where rogue nations have not signed up most are signed up to the ICJ and its conventions. The USA even threatened The Netherlands with force should the ICC ever pursue an American leader.
There is no Palestiniane, never was, why perpetuate lies ?
You're right.. but there is something called Palestine
@@mortenfrosthansen84 hypothetical mischief
Money hungry and corruption from South Africa, all they are thinking is money.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nice try though.
Sad but true yes. Selling their souls to the money gods. Not all South Africans though ...soon those who are aligned with the One and Only true God will be relieved from this and the rest will feel the wrath. Praying for those in goverments to see the light and turn from their wicked ways.
That doesn’t even make sense, it’s actually the opposite, every country supporting israel is money, greed and power hungry. palestine stood in solidarity with south africa during our apartheid struggle which eventually allowed south africa to gain international support and break out of the occupation and oppression we faced, south africa promised to do the same especially considering the similar struggles of the apartheid state, except this is a literal genocide based on apartheid which makes it more grave and brutal than south africa’s apartheid. it’s called having morality and humanity. Unlike every other country who’s greedy for money and power, south africa stands for the human rights, democracy and freedom of the people since we understand the apartheid struggles based on racism and the superiority of “Gods chosen people”.
@@matthew_swanepoel , and who started the war on October the 07th 2023? Israel or the Hamas terrorist harbored by the Palestanian to terrorize the Jewish people. Israel will pay the lawsuit filed by Africa but, may be Africa will pay the holocaust survive when 4 million Jewish was genocide and burned alive by Hitler, that make more sense. If Palestine is so in love with Africa then Africa should demand Palestine to give denero to Africa.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Cry yourself to sleep, there's nothing you can do the case is continuing. We don't care about how you feel.
@@Music-scene , no care either but, you ain’t gonna nothing out of it. Because is all greedy, deceitful, fake and lies. Africa should advance themselves and make Africa become developed country instead of trying to make money out of nonsense. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
All about money. So the corruption can continue.
palestine stood in solidarity with south africa during our apartheid struggle which eventually allowed south africa to gain international support and break out of the occupation and oppression we faced, south africa promised to do the same especially considering the similar struggles of the apartheid state, except this is a literal genocide based on apartheid which makes it more grave and brutal than south africa’s apartheid. it’s called having morality and humanity. Unlike every other country who’s greedy for money and power, south africa stands for the human rights, democracy and freedom of the people since we understand the apartheid struggles based on racism and the superiority of “Gods chosen people”.
All about freedom and human rights
You won our respect 🇿🇦 Thank you🇿🇦
???respect ...ANC hates you ,they only SURPORTING Humas Hezbollah terorist for funding period wake up ....ANC government failed SA but trying to solve international affairs it's stupid
Just a reminder, Thousands of South Africans 🇿🇦 disagree with our government decisions against Israel 🇮🇱, and support all of Isreal 🇮🇱 to achieve their goals to defeat hamas and all associated proxies.
Those thousands are settlers
@@siohonelson9078go to hell allah
The same that supported apartheid disagree. We that suffered it defend those innocent women and children dying. The case is not about who is right or wrong but about saving the lives of the innocent. FYI, the government has spoken against the actions of hamas
@@ThatGuy-jr1wr last week in Nigeria hundreds of women and children were killed by radical apartheid islamists
@@fernandosuba9163 So SA must play police all over Africa? What have other African countries done?
I love seeing how the minority white South Africans differ from the black majority views. As South Africans we certainly take the fight against apartheid seriously
I stand with S Africa and Palestine.
@@worldONtrauma ❤
I noticed that as well. Oh well.. we stand against apartheid and ethnic cleansing.
@@theonly6359you had better concentrate on the African continent then, as the Africans are the masters of ethnic cleansing!
@@theonly6359 ✊
don't forget S Africa is one of very few countries to actually have hamas offices. S Africa will probably be needing money from the arabs soon, so cozying up to the arab view in the war.
RSA might conveniently source monies from BRIC. LoL Bric member India is already glued to the NATO and Israel.
Nonsense
South Africa and India is in the same axis of evil (trade union), along with such lovely places as Russia, China, North Korea, Egypt and Iran..
So india is indirectly supporting Hamas, through Iran and Egypt.
What about the farm murders in South Africa.
As a South African I have much to say however the Christian in me knows God is not mocked whatsoever people sew that is what they will reap. Blessings to all. Keeping all in my heart and prayers.
Do you mean whatever people sew they will rip ? Or maybe... what they sow they will reap?
@@maseratifittipaldi ”Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.“
Galatians 6:7
South Africa is cursed for the ANC devil worshipers
What’s that supposed to mean for Palestinians?
@@Sfundon Blessings to you. It’s not about us it is about God. His Will. His Word. His creation. His good pleasure. Jesus Christ will get the glory and His Word will not return to Him empty which is happening right now across the world in Prophecy. He will judge all who did not repent and believe the Gospel. God bless you and yours. I pray for all the people across the world 🙏🏻🕊️📖⛲️
The ANC needs to sort out it's own shit first.
S.A still needs healthy partnership.
agreed, but our government has a track record for fucking shit up.@@LukeRev480
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Really @lescrooge! Then who would act to stop blatant mass murder which we watch on international TV?
Which section of SA's petition that was submitted to the ICJ is morally and factually wrong.
The whole world is witness to the words which are included in the petition.
One more thing! Wars, killing, and destruction happen and continue because of alliances. Every ally wants his share from death and destruction of victims.
You need to sort your own shit
What was south Africa doing when Hamas was ruling Gaza !😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 Double standards 😜😜😜
Sending taxpayers money to Hamas so that they could build their tunnels?
Nothing. We respect DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENTS.
@@iqbalmohamed5128• Interesting comment. Off toppic: I really do not know, so I ask you because you should know. Are all Muslim Countries Democratically elected?
@@iqbalmohamed5128 since when are muslim governments democratically elected?
Hamas wasn't there till 80s genius yet Palestinians territories were occupied.
😂😂😂😂
Our governments are clowns 🤡 . ANC
Only White privileged south Africans of European origin would think or believe that statement..
You're not normal
Respects For Justice And Humanity.Freedom To Palestine 🇵🇸 🇿🇦
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@@trygd100From ancient times when Jesus was alive, Is***l is known to be evil, stop trying to promote it into a good state so desperately 😂 The ** cause ytb deleting my comments ☠
Stop the genocide.
Anyone that thinks this started on the 7/10 is a joke lol.
Leave Israel alone so there will be no problem. You can be Free as you wish.
Anyone who thinks there’s genocide is a joke
We the CITIZENS of South Africa distance ourselves from this action by the ANC government.
We the people do not agree with this.
The ANC should be brought in front of the ICJ for the same human rights violations against the people.
Speak for yourself Eugene
Pieter don't involve us. Say 5% of the white population don't agree us people of colour are with Palestine! And the 2% whites that opposes the past
Meaning you and your ancestors enjoyed the SA apartheid regime?
@Jehovahschild30 75 people are murdered in South Africa daily.
And they are talking about genocide.
75 people murdered daily, so times that by 365 days appears like genocide.
Anyways they are going to be voted out.
@@sufyandanjumaibrahim3524Well now after 30 years been destroyed.
And they still blame apartheid.
They are a joke.
75 people are murdered in South Africa daily and I repeat daily.
And they talk about genocide.
South Africa has made a mistake, the GOD OF ISRAEL will take away bread from your table
God is dead
ohhhhh please enough of all this. I am a bonafide Christian as well and I believe we have both Christian and Muslims in South Africa and even in Palestine. We serve the same God , stop being hypocritical.
Which god might that be?!
Let’s be enightend. The Bible is a religious argument, not a lawful argument. The Bible is not the Word of God. These books, including the Torah, were written by and for the jews themselves. There is no Word of God other than our conscience, no Chosen People and no Holy Land. The land was and is Palestinian territory in the Arab Middle East. All the Israelites must be moved to the United States because the Israelites have abused during 75 years the unique and dubious opportunity for their own state. They will never follow and obey the law, not even after 75 years.
SA govt needs to focus on eradicating load shedding and water shortages and upkeep of infrastructure and public services... focus needs to be internal not external. Our govt must learn what are priorities... our own ppl are suffering... defend the helpless and forgotten in SA...
Yes and condemn thebrutal farm murders by EFF and all other anti-White movements who have no concept of life and family
What I love about Zionists is that they consider Indians as idol worshiping sub humans as well🙂
What I love about Zionists is that they consider Indians as idol worshiping sub humans as well🙂
Think the electric issue is the worst.. if you are looking primarily on infrastructure.
But even if you have trouble at home, it shouldn't be a pass for others outside to massacre a nation.
As a South African, you should understand, what it feels like to be under the boot of military firepower..
But it depends on which side you were on back then.
Judging by your profile picture, you could have been seen as a mixed race child. They did not have a pleasant time during apartheid.
Massive corruption issues seem to be a thing, that saturate the BRICS alliance and all the members.
So now the government have joined a club, where experts of staying in power and getting all the money are currently residing
Since this is from a indian news outlet, it should also be mentioned that the caste system is still there.. and other sectarian violence..
So india is also not, in a position to sit on any pedestal.
Let alone the infrastructure problems, that india beholds
If this doesn’t go through I know we are done in this world 😢
That's not true. There's way more complex things to do than punish South Africa for a lawsuit.
Besides South Africa is a very important country on the world geopolitical maps.
It will not go through. Most of the judges are Europeans and North Americans
Why south Africa sticking it nose in Isreal affairs mind them own business
Palestine was against the Apartheid government of south africa from 1948, while Britain, America and Israel were funding the apartheid state of south africa with army tanks, weapons, bulldozers and money to build separate facilities for whites. Palestine made its stance clear and stood in solidarity with south africa during our apartheid struggle which eventually allowed south africa to gain international support and break out of the occupation and oppression we faced, south africa promised to do the same especially considering the similar struggles of the apartheid state, except this is a literal genocide based on apartheid which makes it more grave and brutal than south africa’s apartheid. it’s called having morality and humanity. Unlike every other country who’s greedy for money and power, south africa stands for the human rights, democracy and freedom of the people since we understand the apartheid struggles based on racism and the superiority of “Gods chosen people”.
But SA does not appear to be a shining light unto the nations when it comes determining its own affairs after the end of colonialism.
I am sure you are a white apatheid supporter
Colonialism ended in 1910....you mean apartheid...ended in 1994....
Go tell that to your mother, when did your country get independence or was it even colonised or were you colonisers
ANC has looted SA to bankruptcy, they are a bunch of immoral thugs.
@@eunallmaharaj8583 The Commonwealth is still colonialsm right up to the 60's
It's the ANC the governments doing,,, not the citizens of South Africa
I'm South African and support Palestine
An overwhelming majority of us South Africans support our government in this case. We hate apartheid
Why don't they worry about their own mass murders in South Africa.
Which mass murders might those be?!
Don’t try that Steve Hofmeyer “white farm genocide” bulldust here. Stupidity has its limits.
Wait there is a court like this and when south Africa committed xenophobia nobody sued them
lol what
Defend what? An occupied land 🤣 good joke
Exactly!
The government of south africa never committed xenophobic attacks,it is the citizens who did that
@@lefutootse4861 yes , but the government is inciting xenophobia amongst it's citizens which leads to attacks...
In Palki Sharma voice you will learn international politics more than what the Universities will teach you. Her voice amplifies international relations to the understanding of all. Thanks ma🙏
Wrong, she is reading from a script. The tone of her voice and opinions is part of the Firstpost's agenda. Make up your own mind from various sources. Don't get brainwashed by her charm!
South Africa prosecutes a high profile international court action while at the same time fails to prosecute those guilty of continuing state capture the consequence of ANC 'deployment' strategies implemented as a patronage system to pay off powerful supporters. All the while South Africa also reels under the likelihood of total infrastructure collapse. South Africa is unable to keep the lights on. It's railways are all but defunct. Roads are potholed and the quality of water in most locales hazardous. This contrasts from the strong industrial base the ANC inherited from South Africa's former white rulers. Perhaps the ANC seeks to relive its glory Mandela days by litigating against Israel the ruling elite living as it does in its luxurious gated community, Bryntirion in Pretoria who are spared having to contend with extended blackouts lasting up to ten hours a day.
South Africa presents the picture of a failing state with nowhere to go
Rip. Mandela.
South Africa is not the first country to practice hypocrisy. Don't think they'll be the last. One should evaluate the merits of the case without engaging in whataboutism.
@@Sbudre ?
@@barryleveson6147 your whole comment was complete whataboutism
@@Sbudre Evidence as to the credit of a litigant is always relevant
South African leaders are mad
Because they are against genocide and apartheid??
South Africa would even be happy because through the Iron hand used to them by white,was not hatred but it was to give them green light of better life.eg with introduction of education that's why ramaposa is president today,
Nope! they have some sense of morality and humanity, which cannot be said about too many.
@@Hist247 they are just attributing their past to that of isreal.
@user-lf2jv3kx3v😂 .... Tell me you're a colonialist without telling 😂😂
Can you say WHY HAMAS IS NOT SUED
Exactly! They are actually guilty of genocide. In the Hamas Covenant it says that they will destroy Israel and kill all Jews.
Good question
As a matter of international law, an occupier has no right to defence whereas the occupied have that right legally enshrined. What precisely should Hammas be sued for at the ICJ?
@@martinsolomon2299 Israel isn't occupying the land. What can Hamas be sued for? They have broken around 7 laws.
@@FollowerOfYeshua1974 utter rubbish. Israel is not only occupying areas defined as pre-1967 boundaries, they are stealing Palestinian land and homes on a daily basis. The entire state of Israel was established through violence, facilitated by a Europe ridding itself of its “Jewish problem” and sponsored by the USA seeking to establish a vassal state in the Middle East. Heard about the Nakba? The constant murder of Palestinians? One can disagree with and even abhor Hamas’ tactics but never their right to fight an occupier.
You are shockingly ill informed.
Isreal is much much worse than an Apartheid state. After this genocide it deserves to be dissolved. They have become as monstrous as the nazis.
The anc should focus rather focus on its own affairs ...
There's is a different between terrorist and Apartheid ,here Israel is dealing with a gang called Hamas who started it all by attacking Israel.
South Africa better worry about providing electricity and water to its people
Don't tell us what to do
With its problems and challenges, South Africa knows pain and abuse of power when the see one. It doesn't take a genius to see the suffering of Palestinians unless u r hopelessly dumb and pure evil!
Very short sighted, food supply issues would ensue a world war, we cannot afford to have a world war!
Fact mate, we're really tired with loadshedding here
@@luzukombuqu4976South African government has destroyed the country and her people are suffering more than ever.
During the apartheid years in South Africa the apartheid government was supported by the US because they were providing uranium for there nuclear development during the cold war the Russians were supporting the ANC because they were shifting into power unfortunately the USSR got dissolved and the cold war came to an end but the loyalty between the Russians and the ANC rulling party in South Africa is still strong
Well said, as a South African I approve. My brother was even trained by USSR
@@RastaAfricanGentleman Majority of South Africans are pro west!But Israel is worse than apartheid South Africa in the treatment of Palestinians!
South Africa licking Putin's, ah, boots.
I think not loyalty but trust 🤔😀
USSR always stood for the right side
I stand with Israel!!! If you curse Israel you will be cursed. You can never win- going against the God of Israel, He fights their battles
And God laughs at the enemies of Israel for He sees their day is coming. Psalm 2
Did your God bless those who supported apartheid in south Africa too???
Sounds like a perfect white God 😂😂😂😂
So what about all the Farm murders in south africa.
South Africa should mind our own business. We have bigger problems in our country. No electricity, no clean water, anarchy. Someone is telling South Africa to do it.
🎯 en dit gaan boemerang 🙏
lies!!! You just want your apartheid government back.
Are you worried about a war? 😅
Yep that's what I'm saying too
Our tax money Ramaphosa what the hell
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Isreal has the right to defend it self.
Not by committing genocide.
So did the little guy with a weird moustache 😂😂😂😂
The ANC don't want someone to break their record for murder.
😂😂
Suing Israel for genocide but refuse to arrest Poohtin who has a warrant of arrest from the same court😂 The double standard of SA😂
Last time I checked Putin didn't set foot on SA soil.
@@kevinpetersen4043 even if he did, SA will not arrest him🤣 They've been telling that to the media😂
This will cost SA dearly.
Explain.
Says who , the world is not blind ,they can see the evil happening in Gaza, they might be scared of Israel the terrorist country, but SA is not
Yes! Truth is costly.
South Africa haven't finish solving local problems, it's international problems that is their headache. Please solve your local problems and stick to local politics before you drag yourselves into a fight that would consume you.
There’s no country without local problems
he makes sense tho..
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Actually many countries haven’t solved their local problems but they are actively involved in geopolitics. What’s your point??
@@theonly6359 If the Arabs couldn't solve their problems it's South Africa? SA is being induced, pushed and I hope they don't pay for it in future.
South Africa must focus more on their own country's problems 😢
Why did you say that? Is it giving billions of dollars to Israel in support of war crimes?
The ANC cannot fix anything most of them are 30%ters.
So before helping any country in the world, a country should be perfect and problem free? In that case no country should have took any action against south africa’s apartheid which wasn’t even nearly as bad as what’s happening in palestine - a genocide grounded in apartheid laws
@London_University😭😭😭
Thanks for the insight Palki, unfortunately nothing will change as far as the arrogance of Israel is concerned because even the so called USA is AFRAID of Israel. I am so happy that one country has shown the world that Israel is not invincible after all. What a man sow shall he reap!!!
South Africa has nothing better to do
They can't get their own act together
At least they recognize genocide. Do you?
@@felixmoyoedonmi do you know S.A. at all you'll have a different opinion
Take that comment to your family home
@@felixmoyoedonmi like genocide of our white farmers, you mean?.
And what about the real genocide going on in Africa? Like what has just happened in Nigeria? Sudan? Somalia?
Speak up....can't hear you...
@@dianathompson8794 Are you suggesting that one atrocity justify another? Is it your understanding that the atrocities of the apartheid state of Isreal should not be confronted because of atrocities in other places? Please understand that I am human enough to be compassionate with ALL LIFE. I wonder if you can say this about yourself. Your obsession to support zionism is sickening.
South Africa , It is sad that you would attack Israel ,and you have many problems on how you are treating the whites and blacks in your Country. South Africa should fix there own problems first. The world is watching.
I think that the S.A President should first put the lights back on in South Africa and then worry about
the world around him.
Well said
I think he should step down
Or he can do both.
South Africa and Palestine are not even nearly close to being the same.
@lordyoni922 maybe, but they are close enough.
No two situations which are separated by time are perfectly identical. What is important is the underlying motive.
The difference in the case of Palestine today, is declared war, but the excuse for war has the same dark sinister motives and agenda as apartheid in South Africa.
The implication is that the term war is a convenience. Hamas simply gave Zionists the excuse they needed to rapidly implement a scheme which they were implementing incrementally in the West Bank. The term war is needed for the following planned sequence:
1. for deception; propaganda and diplomatic license as cover for mass slaughter.
2. the hope is to escape accountability by declaring civilians to be accidentally killed, and
3. to justify eventual use of the term’s conquest, occupation, and annexation.
There is another implication. History keeps repeating itself.
What is happening today in the lands known as Palestine is a familiar story.
People who we know as ‘European ancestry’ covet both identity and lands of others. What is the familiar story century after century?
People of European ancestry’:
1. leave their ancestral homeland where they have nothing.
2. travel to foreign lands
3. to get free land they kill those who they find living there,
4. seize their lands and describe this act as ‘war and conquest’ by the civilized.
In this Palestinian case, those who are from Europe are described as settlers.
Now, retrace steps from 1440 CE to the present, and the same pattern in Palestine today will be visible every century since 1440 CE.
There is a third implication.
When Russia attacked Ukraine with impunity, I wrote a note saying that if this attack succeeds then it will set a nasty precedent of violence for the foreseeable future. Therefore, who is surprised:
1. that in Western Asia, Israel invents pretext for war and terrible mass violence.
2. that in South America, Venezuela threatens invasion of Guyana.
3. that Morocco might invade Western Sahara using the same pretext.
I also suggest that the reason why any of these acts have the remotest chance of success is because of the word “allies”.
Men and nations want their share of loot from destruction of victims and seizure of their property.
If all nations of the world apply what they claim as recognizable divine moral laws and criminal laws which were created by civilized people, then chances of success by “SCOUNDRELS” (term used by South Africa’s Foreign Minister in the Gaza case- INDIVIDUALS AND NATIONS-) might be significantly reduced.
It is cases like these that both reveal and affirm the difference between what so-called civilized people claim to believe and what they really believe. It is also why all nations must be significantly armed, as deterrence, to defend themselves and to discourage would be aggressors.
@@Hist247Do you believe Israelis were once in captivity as slaves in Egypt? If you do then where did they come from??
She just explained to you how they can relate to their situation if you’re confused watch again
A whole lot of bull shit.
By the way South African here.
@@Hist247your entire screed is shit, as there is no such thing as ‘palestine’ or a ‘palestinian’ people.
Typical leftist stupidity.
sa is showing how inept they are at understanding the war
Right...and you do?
Not S.A. rather the ANC.
@@cathypotgieter6345 all over the internet they say sa so why not anc? It's sa as far the world is concerned because that's how prefer to advertise it.
I'm sorry for what the South African ANC government has done here. But no it's not the people of South Africa that did this, it is the ANC government.
@@Nacifra7 africans have never understood about world politics only greed and corruption, clean up your own country before interfering in others, and yes, better than you.
What a joke, South Africa cannot even arrest Putin for bombing Ukraine
Because they belong are from the BRICS.The same as India.
South Africa needs to focus on there own problems especially the government.
@London_University and they got a lot of bull crap
Of all the nations in the world, why South Africa did file this case that Israel is committing the genocide against Palestinians?! Why not the West Asian countries, or a Muslim, or an Arab country? What is the cause or the law suit which most of the Muslim nations have supported?!
Thank you Ms. Palki Sharma,
As a brave and admirable reporter, not only you first asked such a fundamental questions which needed to be understood and therefore, seek for the right and true answer/s, but also, in answering those questions to let us know what prompted South Africa do so, you listed three good reasons which the majority of us didn’t know about, or if we do, may have ignored and forgotten.
Since all three reasons seems as if a genuine cause to support not only South Africa’s action against Israel, but to all who have shared the common oppression and ill treatment by a cruel and selfish oppressor, all three points you listed are crucially important and therefore, each needs to be responded to and explained why and where south Africa is completely wrong and therefore, should not be miss guided by their blind uncalculated mistake! I wish I could the same to all three, because I would not be able to, here is my comment about the first point.
To begin with, I want you and your clients be the judge if in fact the case of South Africa and the Palestinians are one and the same common case, as you said is. Black South Africans are the aboriginal the first occupiers of the Land, they know no other place of origin but that part of the world. But In Palestinians case no one could say the same is true (here I particularly challenge the South African Blacks who claims to have the same common case). Both the Biblical history and the world history disprove this concept of both having the same history! As an excellent reporter, since I believe you have a much better historical knowledge, I leave that part to you to think back about it and recollect your memory or if you need, check and verify it to us (your clients). But, as the Biblical part which I have a sound knowledge about, I suggest to you to read the book of Joshua chapter 13 and see it for yourself not only who gave the nation of Israel the Land and when, but also, to precisely know the exact location and surrounding border of the land! When God gave them the land as their inheritance, because they (the Israelites) were given a serious warning by Him saying that, if they don’t live according to His commands, but instead mingle with and practice what the rest of the nations do, He would cause other nations to drive them away from the land; and as the result of their continual disobediences, this happened over and over again for few years. And when their Messiah-Jesus Christ of the gospels was sent by God to shepherded and restore them 2000 years ago, because they didn’t recognized and accepted Him, He clearly said to them “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not! See, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again, until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.” Matthews 23:37-39
And as the fulfillment of Christ’s prophecy the Jewish nation have been driven out of the land by Roman Empire since 70 AD never were able to return to that land till 1948.
What I would like you Ms. Palki, and the whole world (most specifically the South African and the UN members) to know and with absolute certainty understand is, after such very long time why this nation came back to their land? And who is this God of the Jewish nation who has orchestrated all these?! For their return to the land of Israel is not by chance or a human desire and decision making. No. in fact, this is the works of their very God who gave them the land as an everlasting inheritance; for He Himself has promised them that although He cause them to be scattered all over the world and they live a miserable life because of the mistreatment of the nations, but in in the book of Jeremiah chapter 30 from verse 4 through chapter 31 verse 1 to the end, and in Zechariah chapter 13 and chapter 14, He clearly has promised as He will gather them back once again and re-establish them forevermore after that!
Now someone may dare to ask who is this God is the Jewish nation? I would like to late everyone know that this God is the very same God who destroyed the entire rebellious human being by flood and saved the righteous families of Noah to give the whole earth to him and his descendants! The Bible clearly says and warns that, it is not His will for anyone to perish by going to hell or to be tormented by great catastrophic that he will allow to come unless people repent and leave alone His chosen nation. The justice you claim to the Palestinians against his people will be weighed and, a cup will measured to each and everyone as they have measured to His people!
It’s quite simple. South Africa brings a particular context to the case. As a former Apartheid state, South Africa has relevant standing and recent reference wrt settler oppression and state violence.
It only takes one country to level a charge at the ICJ and you can rest assured that South Africa would have canvassed widely for support before taking this step.
SA should solve the problems they have in their country first
Solve yours and let us worry about our own
@@luzukombuqu4976 yeah bro, I am not the Govt. You talk to my Govt
As a member of the Int Community SA has interests in a just international legal order. We will act on the International stage whenever we want to.
South Africa government is trying to ignore its own problems it has a country with tremendous opportunities but corruption and stupidity are to strong.
@@GeniusAjinkyawhich country doesn’t have problems?
As an African,i don't like what South Africa's government is doing. They should worry about Hamas, a terrorist group pretending to be freedom fighters. Hamas wants to spread jihad, and it's bad that South Africa didn't speak out against the killing of an innocent Tanzanian boy by Hamas in Israel. Hamas is usually the one starting attacks, and I don't like what the South African government is doing andTheyare moving in the wrong direction.
Don't be stupid.... South Africa is not supporting Hamas.... It's about the nearly 10,000 children who have been , the innocent lives that have been lost.
You have 75 years to catch up on....Best you start reading
@@Brown57… where do you get that figure from? …. from Hamas obviously
@@MusehanaHfrom the responses it seems that not everyone is gullible enough to fall for everything Hamas parrots.
@@Brown57did South Africa condemned Oct 7 attack? I didn't seen any news about it
Not all South Africans are in favor of this challenge.
South Africa is just being childish. Why didn't they sue Hamas. Very childish indeed.
Who is actually acting more like the Nazis? Hamas or Israel?
@@amatyaucran2214 Israel
Let me help here - Hamas and their idiots in the West
Because it is matter of survival of jews..
One grp does not desire peace and keeps on rejecting peace treaties. They also desire to eradicate an entire group of people. Geeze! I wonder which one is showing a nazi like behavior?
The Nazi's never gleefully livestreamed their atrocities.
Hamas are far more evil.
However Mr Nelson Sir (rest in peace) BUT HAMAS AND SEVERAL ARAB COUNTRIES HAVE SWORN TO EXTERMINATE AND WIPE OUT THE JEWS.
Those are not the Jews, those are europeans
@@siohonelson9078🎉🎉🎉🎉 Thanks for saying that
Cyril Ramaphosa should focus on South Africa because everything here in our country is messed up...leave Israel alone.I'm standing with Israel don't care how they feel.
Another more local reason, Palki, is that a very strong FREE PALISTINE stance will curry favour with many citizens in the Western Cape province (the only province not run by Ramaphosa's ANC) who are Muslim and have strong FREE PALISTINE sentiments. The Muslim population of the Western Cape is quite large, and it could swing sentiment in the election, taking votes away from the ruling party of the Western Cape, the Democratic Alliance (South Africa's leading opposition party with support from South Africa's Jewish community). The Western Cape province is by far the best-run province with frequent clean bills of health in their audit reports, whereas ANC provinces and municipalities score low on their audit reports, showing signs of corruption and poor service delivery. However, it's a dilemma as many black South Africans identify with the two biggest religious movements in South Africa which are a blend of Afro-Judeo-Christian values and traditions (that being the Shembe religion of Kwa-Zulu Natal and the ZCC religion of Limpopo--each with around 6 million members respectively. ZCC literally stands for Zion Christian Church...) This is a very relevant point as there will be general elections in South Africa this year.
Watch out for the Muslims in South Africa or you are going to end like Mozambique. The growth of the Muslim population in Mozambique came with terrorist attacks in a country that has never done anything against Muslims.
Muslims must vote with their conscience and not just vote for a party because of its so called Pro Palestine views!!! Oh Lord help us!
...and the ruling party in western cape, the DA openly supports Israel and it's genocide.....lets hope we can expel the DA from the western cape....
Interesting point. The western Cape is the best run province. But the bar isnt that high. Which is why only rich areas are well run and every other areas is in the gutter. The DA just supports rich people.
@@lyndonjacobs5264 I hear you. I'm no expert in this area, but I believe I may have heard Helen Zille commenting on this issue saying that many impoverished South Africans are flocking to the Western Cape as the WC's poor areas are still better than other places in the country (and of course the oppurtunities too) and that as the numbers increase, the Western Cape government is "trying hard" to provide basic services to all its people, even the new citizens... that's their stance anyway... South Africa remains a difficult society inwhich to live, as the poverty is stark, glaring and troubling...(I personally believe it is everyone's problem...I don't know how people can "flash the cash" when so many don't have even the most basic of housing)...
why SA did not tell any word to Hammas for attacking Israel .. SA dont care for own people suffering from hunger , poverty, unemployment but showing and appeasing muslim countries ...
You have no capacity to think. The suffering of the people of Palestine should have touched your heart if you have one.
@@felixmoyoedonmi What are your thoughts on the Armenian and Kurdish genocide committed for years by Turkey, or Saudi Arabia's war crimes in Yemen?
@@strawmanfallacy8666 Just as terrible as I am feeling right now. I am human enough to condemn all atrocities against our humanity. It is amazing how we are hell-bent on trodden the path of self-destruction.
@@strawmanfallacy8666I hope you receive as much mercy as you give other
@@felixmoyoedonmi Its good to have humane feelings for others. But feels a bit too hypocritical when Israel is hated for self-defense while there is practically no equivalent outrage against any of the Muslim countries committing even more heinous crimes on other populations. Maybe if all aggressor countries were called out EQUALLY then it would be less hypocritical.
Don't worry change is surely coming. It is inevitable and wen the change comes it is going to be very decisive shocking those who believe that power will stay with them forever
Israel's national homeland of the Jewish people since the time of the kingdom of Judea
South africans want to live in gaza for free 😂😂😂😂😂😂
What this has to do with anything
@igop8583, which ones? The same ones who supported apartheid?
The ones on the side of Hamas@@Hist247
Again, she is wonderful at reporting. Spot on without waste of a second.
When the South African president going to be taken to court 🤔🤡
For what?
Where was SA, when Hamas attacked Israel first?
They were watching like you have been keeping a blind eye while Israel was killing Hamas people (Palestinians).
They were calling Hamas the next day
South Africa self is guilty
For what?
Interesting.Seem to have so many problems that need solving here at home??
So before helping any country in the world, a country should be perfect and problem free? In that case no country should have took any action against south africa’s apartheid which wasn’t even nearly as bad as what’s happening in palestine - a genocide grounded in apartheid laws
Why didn’t South Africa sue Putin? Why did South Africa said they’ll not arrest Putin?
For what? Don't be a moron.
Anc licks the toilet of putin for free money
One word.
Whataboutism.
The answer is the Americans already did.
These Palkis and their kind never condemn RAPES murders suicide bombings so to pro Palestinians supporters Anti semetic people like so many incite provoke instead of being neutral. Yes why all these people not saying one word against Russia is this not genocide. God will give Israel Wisdom because they and all who Believe Shall Be Saved. God Bless all God Fearing Countries who obey your commandments.
I must GOD SAID THOU SHALT NOT MURDER. THOU SHALT LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF. THOU SHALT NOT COVET WOW COVET IS THE BIG ISSUE WITH ALL COMMUNIST COUNTRIES .NEED NOT BE ROCKET SCIENTIST TO KNOW EVIDENT HERE BETWEEN PALESTINE GAZA ALL ARAB COUNTRIES.
Comparing apartheid in South Africa to situation in Israel is just buying into a narrative that is little backed with facts and complexity of the situation. Each and every move by Israel to stiffen Israel's border controls with Gaza and and separation of Israeli and Palestinian populations in West Bank was preceded with fatal violent incidents (violent riots, shooting, stabbings and suicide bombing attacks). On the other hand, the Arab Israeli citizens enjoy full rights in Israel. So, the narrative is just that - a narrative in a language that is designed to simplistically move the masses without real facts and complexities.
Israel are illegal occupiers of Palestine, you can't seize what belongs to me and then tell me about the the right to share, nonsense. We recall that the same Israel armed white South Africans with weapons to murder blacks as well as with nuclear weapons to to terrorize it's neighbors.
Israel has been consistently expanding it's borders since it's creation.
It is still occupying UN recognized Palestinian territories genius.
Palestinians just want Israel to adhere to 1967 borders.
Israel still has Golan heights of Syria.
A little reading and research won't bite you 😂😂😂
What about the killing of farmers in South Africa! What does the ANC government do about that!
If this is the case, then what is the point forming ICJ in the first place? International Court of Justice is then meaningless since if they gave their verdict, no one will follow, is better they dissolve it or call it something else.
ICJ exists to create the illusion of justice. Otherwise the world will fall apart in anarchy. The powerful countries are gonna act their way anyway, ICJ exists or not.
It is just an umbrella for something else.
To deal with "small" countries and which are regarded as anti US and westerners. UN, Cj and ICC are jst tools funded as proxies bodies
It will still have an effect because global public opinion. If the ICC affirms the genocide it will change Israels image forever
Waste of money.
This is ANC not South Africa
A N C = animals without common sense ĺiving in darkness of jungles in Africa
South Africans are brave.😮 From Pakistan
South Africa is a power to be reckoned with, or is establishing that power to be reckoned with, on the geopolitical maps and space. Actions like these creep o to the consciousness of the world and build a reputation that transcends the different generations that inhabit the world.
At what cost to the people of the country? What makes you think the people of SA will benefit from any internationsl recognition? Surely you don't hope the leopard will change its spots?
As many other "power to be reckoned with" countries, just wait until ALL of the inhabitants of these countries, stand before Almighty GOD ✝️🙌✝️ Then we will Know " A POWER TO BE RECKONED WITH "
What if the court orders Israel to end the war, and then Hamas attacks again?
Then let the court deal with HAMAS
Seems like you don't follow the news closely. The root of the problem is the occupation. That's why UN called the land as the occupied territories of Palestine. When there is an occupation, there will be freedom fighters, and resistance groups.
Israel should not listen
@@RastaAfricanGentlemanwhat would they do then? Just file a case to Hamas? Hahaha
@@banskiesp2801i mean the problem really goes away if they r given an state and not get treated like an fcking animal on daily basis… idk maybe tht will help ??
Millions of S A does not support this evil . We stand by Israel. We pray for Israel . Israel for ever .Israel has the right to defend themselves.
Why are you supporting genocide? Why are you supporting the atrocities of the apartheid state of Isreal? Until you can search your heart, you will never find peace.
Settler i bet 😂😂😂
Not millions, just the remaining racists with their apartheid ideology
SA must keep a low profile in geopolitics. SA has enormous domestic issues and more political focus must be diverted to it.
😂😂😂😂 which country in the world doesn’t have issues, oh great one?
South African people are heroes who stood against oppression and apartheid, so it is not surprising from this world power to take a move against this genocide.
What does South Africa has to do with this? They can clean up their own affairs. What about helping to find hostages that among them are little babies and children as well as elderly.
And why are you guys always saying phullk saaaaport saaaar i lav israel women😂
Clean up your country and stop worrying about South Africa.
@@gedenironald8635 where is my country? What does South Africa has to do with this? The corrupt officials have taken money to create an unnecessary problems. If they are just, they can find the hostages!
Cause it's master russia said so.
What in your heart makes you angry at a country trying to stop another country from killing and starving children?
This one thing doesn't stop them from "cleaning up their affairs".
What you're basically saying is, yes there is genocide, but only countries with no internal issues should say anything about it.
I will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel. Genesis ✝️
Funny🤣🤣
@@Nsm123go to hell allah 😂😂😂😂
Those Israelites are long gone.
Did God bless those who supported apartheid in south Africa???😂😂😂😂
Thank you, Ms. Sharma, for another clear, concise report. This is how investigative journalism is done.
What exactly did she investigate
What South Africa doing it's really rubbish, they must think about their people first and also i don't even understand why they're trying to interfere?
The Gazans may be fighting for self determination but they want it without the Jews. They were offered Gaza but they want Israel too without the Jews.
Go do your research. Israel and the US always vetoed a 2 solution state at the U.N. meetings for decades. SO who exactly doesn't want to live in peace? Lower your voice if you know nothing.
Palestine had already accepted UN partition plan and Oslo accords.
Nice try genius 😂😂😂😂
There is no apatheid in Israel.
Islam is the second-largest religion in Israel, constituting 1.707 million and around 18.1% of the country's population as of 2022. The ethnic Arab citizens of Israel make up the majority of its Muslim population, making them the largest minority group in Israel. Dome of the Rock, an Islamic shrine in Jerusalem.
Arabs and Jews have the same right to education and health.
Yet the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza are determined to anijilate Jewish people, refusing to live side by side with Jewish people for religious reasons. Jewish people have the right to exist.
Besides Africa should also sue South Africa for genocide(xenophobia ) on African people in South Africa. Zimbabweans should be allowed to reside in South Africa and stop genocidal attacks on Zimbabweans and other African Nationals.
Wow ,someone speaking the truth...well said
ANC is a bunch of funny chaps .South Africa is in free fall the ANC is more concerned with politics than economics
They obviously cant focus on anything because things are home are really bad, but a war they are not involved in thousands of miles away suddenly is of paramount importance.
i believe they've been 'asked' by Iran to bring this on. They look ridiculous and probably know it, but the reward CASH, support or other is clearly enough for them to compromise whatever principles they may have had.
South Africa should be more concerned with their black outs and corruption. They are in trouble with criminals in charge. Israells government are heroes to their people.
There is simply no comparison.
I have started to like you Palki Sharma. You have started giving a neutral unbiased view. This is the kind of journalism that is needed. You gave a counter for both sides and did not give a 1 sided story.
What you mean unbiased when she just showed Mandela who was a terrorist with his cronies killed innocent people got ak47 from who. Russia they love why . Plz Palki get your facts right. You inciting
1.Bashir was not arrested in SA in protest of the bias of the court which seems only interested in trying and jailing Africans.
2.President Putin agreed not to attend the BRICS Summit in SA in order yo protect us from these Western imperialists who only respect internet law when it suits them.
3.Arab nations have the potential but are in no way close to the investment we get from these Western imperialist countries.
4.So at the end of the day we juggle different interests in how we deal with international issues.
@sthe_zar6341
100% on point. We are showing the world that your UN, ICC and ICJ are jst useless bodies and a waste of time. We are hypocrite maybe as the presenter says but we made the point that we too can not be dictated by the same ppl who designed UN and yet fail to obey its rules. We cannot be blind followers of law created to suit US and West ego.
Anyway UN offices are in NY yet and already US has rubbished our submission as meritless. That shows that the world SA navigates cannot be trusted and we want to expose how hypocrite so called democratic countries are.
So SA is testing waters and wants to see if the is a value left in these bodies.
The Arab Legue are not even able to solve their own differences. That is a real pity.
BS
@@janineduplessis6043 Eat it.
Well said, nothing but the truth