The Best 'Roided Out Seasons In Baseball History
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I'll take this to my grave. If Bud Selig is enshrined in the MLB HOF, ALL of those legendary cheaters should be in, as well. They should have gone in before him, as a matter of fact. That man covered it up. He knew what exactly was going on.
I agree, but I don’t blame Selig for turning a blind eye after the ‘94 season. The steroid era saved baseball!
Also Gaylord Perry is in the hall and he cheated
@@ruffkuntry2574I don’t blame him for turning a blind eye to it but I do blame him for eventually making them seem like the villains to save his own ass
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Shoutout to the players who didn't juice and could still hang in the League, shit some even excelled beating out juicers.
Gotta feel pretty shitty to have that regret of cheating in your love of life, and then find out some ppl did it the right way, and better than you.
You’re right. Selig didn’t deserve inclusion for multiple reasons but he knowingly oversaw steroid usage on a massive scale. He not only faced 0 consequences, but was constantly rewarded for it
The steroid era saved the MLB
Remember those commercials that said "chicks dig the long balls".
Definitely saved baseball.
100%. People don’t remember how much ‘94 hurt MLB
Must see tv
@@Nick_Valentine2702Exactly! That ‘94 season almost killed baseball…which is why baseball executives turned a blind eye on the steroid issue until they couldn’t any longer.
Agreed. Otherwise we’d not even be watching
Imagine hitting 60+ home runs THREE times and not leading the league once. Good times.
before ive watched the video im calling Sosa
Some big shoutouts are the guys who had all time great seasons in the middle of this.
Ichiro and Pedro. Pedro especially as he pitched the 2 greatest seasons of all time against a league of roided freaks.
If Conseco is to be believed, the upwards of 80% of the league was juicing in the early 2000s. Pedro in a hitter friendly ballpark, in a hitter friendly league, outperformed everyone.
To name a few, but also Maddux, Griffey Jr, Guerrero Sr, Big unit, etc...
IF CON SECO IS TO BE BELIEVED
the greatest conjecture since hamlet's "to be or not to be"
Ken Griffey Jr didn’t
Imagine if Barry Bonds played in Yankee stadium for half the season!
He'd have been bunting Home runs over that little league right field.
One thing that remains true: you can talk all you want about the home runs, but PEDs don't make your eyesight better. Barry's lack of strikeouts, and skills with contact, are always going to remain impressive for me, even if the HR numbers are tainted.
Professional players being taking supplements since they had hands. Thing with binds tho there is no proof. Only lies and rumors.
I know you said dont ask, but id love to know how Palmeiro won a gold glove with only 28 games in the field!
Great video as always, these seasons are simultaneously a blight and a saving grace for baseball
Pedro Martinez’s 1999 and 2000 seasons are two of the 3 greatest ever. His ERA was significantly lower compared to all peers, even compared with Mr. Gibson’s attempt to break baseball.
This 100
The golden era and imo most memorable time in baseball.
Bonds needs to be in the hall of fame. He was a hall of fameer before he went to the Giants.
He played 7 season for Pittsburgh. So no actually he wasn’t lmao
@@JustLikeYou. I dunno, while his numbers aren't eyepopping, he did in fact win two mvps, have a runner up, and post a season over 200 OPS+. It's hard to say he wouldn't necessarily be a hall of famer if his career abruptly ended after that point. It would be a 'what could have been' type of deal as his numbers were improving.
@@hispanicservices2589 I brought up number of years played because you need 10 in order to be eligible in the MLB
@@JustLikeYou. That is a fair point. I did some research and while that is in fact 'the rule', they have let in (at least) 1 player who didn't meet that requirement. For that reason I'd say it seems more like guidance and a suggestion than a rule. Addie Joss played for 9 seasons, got sick, died, and was put into the hall of fame. If someone like Albert Pujols only played for like 7 seasons and died or was forced to retire for whatever reason, he'd probably get elected into the hall as well, so to say Bonds wouldn't get in just based off that years rule is a bit silly. I do think context has a lot to do with it. If you retire simply cause you're bored, there probably wouldn't be an exception. If you retired because of a health reason or death, then I'm pretty sure they'd strongly consider an exception if you were good enough to warrant it.
I was a security guard at the Montreal airport when I saw Éric Gagné walk by me, I couldn't believe the size of the guy for a pitcher of all things. Seeing him on TV beside other baseball players I hadn't realized just how big he was until he walked by me and I was 6'2 220lbs at that time, I knew he had to be juiced to the max.
TBH 6'2 220 soinds normal for a MLB pitcher. Doesnt sound huge at all. Definatly not " juiced to the max"
@@elliotthunter6226he’s talking about himself not Eric Gagne
@@Mr.JayDice gotcha. Makes more sense
This kid’s voice inflection is hilarious 😂
Its like a baby walking
Nails on a chalkboard
It was exciting times as a fan; I was pretty young so I didn't grasp the steroid stuff. Now that I'm older, it makes clean players like Griffey even more special.
I loved it! Baseball of the 90s were the most entertaining. Steroids saved baseball because the strike of 94 most ended our national pastime. Thankfully the players taking the juiced saved the sport!
Brady Anderson definitely needs to be among the honorable mentions
Also that none of it was actually cheating until 04-05.
I hear roids gave him those "Luke Perry" sideburns.
I remember those days with Cal.
That last bit is untrue. Illegal drug use was and remains very much illegal in MLB.
i honestly dont think brady anderson used roids, i mean, think about it, who goes out, uses roids, has the best season of their life by far, then says, yup, think ive seen enough of that, im done
The O's lineup was stacked that year. I'm in the camp where it's a maybe. Could go either way.
Nichols is right it was banned by mlb in 1991
Check out Bret Boone in 2001. In my opinion the most insane outlier of all time with the possible exception of Luis Gonzalez in 2001.
In 2001 Bret Boone played 2nd base for the Seattle Mariners.
1996 brady anderson is probably even worse
Luis Gonzales was definitely on steroids in 2001 and yes I'm only saying this because I'm a Yankees fan
As a Cubs fan I can attest that he was not in the same galaxy as late as 98'. The league was 100% complicit with all these shenanigans.
Brady Anderson is definitely up there, Bret at least had some other positive seasons around that year. Plus the 01 Mariners team was insane
Steroid era was the longest period of open cheating in baseball history? What about the last 15 years of sticky stuff? Not only did sticky stuff cheating have a larger impact on the game, it made baseball f'ing boring.
Houston Asterisks banging their trash can and hiding their buzzer
How about babe ruth showing up drunk and high on cocaine, while never playing against a minority. He was a famously obese womanizer. A players who's weight became such an issue, babe would either hit a homerun or he was out. A mediocre pitcher. An all around terrible guy. Baseballs favorite person.
@@ruffkuntry2574cry….rent free
@johnthomas1422 So where's the cheating in any of that? And you're straight up wrong about Ruth being a homerun or out hitter- .349 career average with 642 doubles + triples proves otherwise. He was also an outstanding pitcher with the Red Sox, but the Yankees stopped using him on the mound.
@@johnthomas1422 It sounds like he was putting himself at a disadvantage and was still playing better than everybody else. Anime mode lol
In Part 2, do Brady Anderson's 1996 season. The 1992 and 1996 Brady Anderson seasons have to be two of the most divergent All-Star seasons any single player has ever posted.
It'd be a little weird if Brady only juiced for a single season, no? I don't think we can chalk up his 96 season to drugs.
Just put a double asterisk by their names. Nothing's better than coffee and tobacco. The real PED'S. DiMaggio drank a cup of coffee and smoked a cig between every inning. Nothing wrong with that.
Hank Aaron - 755 HRs
Amazing! Unbelievable!
Barry Bonds - 762 HRs
Who cares?
Amazing video. Also love your narrating style, great work!
Steroids ruins it in retrospect, but man, as someone whose childhood in little league was right smack around '98, it's impossible to describe how exciting it was. Baseball was a pop culture darling, EVERYONE was so excited for the home run chase. Crazy time.
The biggest difference between MLB and other sports on this is that **not** everyone was doing it. There are some sports where it’s just assumed everyone’s doping: bodybuilding, any fighting/wrestling/martial arts etc, cycling, sprinting, probably football. In baseball it was a genuine uneven playing field and you saw players have massive jumps past natural or mostly-natural peers. That made it weird and different.
Juiced Bonds was Amazing. Couldnt throw him a strike or he would hit it out of the park!
Clemens's most insanely rioded out seasons were with Toronto in the late 90s...
Great video. Recently got in to baseball, you have a new subscriber
nah me too
Bonds is a HOFer without his steroid seasons lol
Brett Boone between 2001 and 2003 should also be an honorable mention. I think 2003 was his best of season. He just exploded out of nowhere.
During the 1988 season I went to Fenway park and the entire crowd was chanting "steroids" at Canseco. 30,000 people. Everyone knew exactly what was going on. Owners, managers, players, the press, and the fans. When a reporter called out the Andro in McGwire`s locker the rest of the press corps wanted to lynch him, but now these same people act as holier than thou when it comes to voting for the Hall Of Fame.
Not sure if you've already done this but you should make a video on the single season homerun record from early mlb history through the steriod era and present day and why we may not see many 60+ seasons going forward based off the nature of the current game
as much as I'd love to watch that, Foolish Baseball basically has done that exact video. Not that two creators can't each make interesting videos on the topic, but I could see why that might be discouraging
@@astralsn0w756 I'll have to check his video out! You're totally right on that as well.
As a St Louis Cardinals fan, TILL THIS DAY, I am so damn conflicted about the Home Run race in '98. It almost single handedly saved baseball from that slump. But it absolutely belittled the true season record that was gotten without help.
If by gotten without help you mean it Roger Marris had an 8 extra regular season games to hit 1 more home run and he actually played/appeared in 10 more than Ruth (161 to 151), then yes, the record was 'gotten without help' lol. (To be fair the Plate appearances were similar Ruth 691, Maris 698).
I don't know, there's always arguments for and against everything. Clearly Ruth was ahead of his time with his approach at the plate, but it's also pretty obvious he was facing inferior competition compared to todays MLB. It's really difficult to compare his and other dinosaurs numbers to the modern game. The only person who has compared to or passed those numbers is Bonds for that 4 year stretch of 01-04, otherwise basically no one in the modern era sniffs 1.200 OPS not named Ted Williams or the 1 outlier seasons by Frank Thomas and Mark McGwire. I don't count Juan Sotos ~47 game season in 2020.
Plus baseball has mostly be founded on cheating and trying to get ahead, stealing signs (cough 2017 astros), spitballs, scuffing baseballs, pinetar on gloves for more tack on the ball, amphetamines, etc. So yeah idk. Steroids were just another level to it, but to act like most players were clean is a bit of a joke.
I wish they'd just bring steroids back, the game is so stat driven now its boring af.
Concerning Brady Anderson:
Nothing changed about him EXCEPT his launch angle and pull rate. Anderson's FB and Pull rates in 1996 were almost identical to McGwire's in 1998.
It was his approach that was different. He was in a year-long groove.
I agree. There's no evidence he took anything. He just had a fluky year and hit alot of flyballs and was in his prime.
There's too much speculation in this video....for instance The accusations against Clemens by his trainer and the FBI are very specific, and do not include 2005 or any of his years in Houston. He mentions 1998, 2000 and 2001...then implies he stopped bc the league was beginning to sniff around and test starting in 2003.
Barry bonds was an amazing hitter! I don’t think we will ever see another hitter as good as him.
1998-1999 Greg Vaughn and 1996 Brady Anderson come to mind
They should have steroid leagues
I wanna say it was Norm MacDonald on his live show that was saying something like that years ago and all I could think was "yup"
Mutant league baseball lets gooo!
Lanky doesn't mean long-limbed - it means Awkwardly tall and skinny. Impossible (literally) to be "lanky but muscular."
Baseball was better with Roids they need to legalize them
Juiced balls had more to do with overall league hike in homeruns more than steroids...
New to the channel
Would love to see a Blue Jays vid
13:08 Do we know if Manny was juicing early in his career? I was under the impression that the only time he was known to be doing it was during the twilight years of his career.
Their swollen faces...and shrunken balls. 😂
Aw man, a listical..
PS: If you have been replaced by an AI or this is an early April Fool's joke, the cadence and emphasis sounds really disturbing
So glad I was a kid during the steroid era. Loved watching MLB during that time.
I will never understand how the Cy Young voting ever took Win/Loss into account. That’s a team stat, not a pitching stat.
Barry bonds from 2000 to 2005 was the scariest hitter I’ve seen
This era was so fun to watch growing up
It was the most exciting timeframe in recent baseball history
First of all love the content brother keep up the great work, 2nd regardless of steroids you still gotta hit the ball, let everyone use steroids Bonds will still stand on top, till date stands as the best hitter their was regardless steroids , let the whole mlb take steroids no1 will compete
Luis gonzalez 2001. He more than doubled his career high in homers with 57 that year
Lasik eye surgery, prescription glasses, or Tommy John for that matter are all more performance enhancing in the game of baseball than any anabolic….PERIOD. People are down right ignorant to what anabolics do and don’t do for a ball player. This vid proves that.
I wanna see Yordan Alvarez and Aaron Judge in a hypothetical juiced era
Why does Pedro always get left out? The dude was on absolute fire 1997-2007 coincidentally the roid era. Before 1997 he had a 3.39 ERA and a 3.41 FIP. Once they cracked down on testing in 2004 he had a 3.87 ERA and a 3.69 FIP. During his insane run though he had a 2.20 ERA and a 2.26 FIP. Between the year of the roid era and last year of the roid era his stats his ERAs nearly doubled. Just seems very suspicious that his insane years match perfectly with the steroid era.
I love how people are naive and ignorant enough to think it ever stopped 😂
Bro even if you don’t hit the 3k which we all know will you’ve got to do a series we need it
Best era of baseball, without a doubt
Cansecos rookie season was 86, not 88
Steroid baseball was the freaking beeeeeest. Bring it back!!!!!!!
The hitters r always talked about in the steroid era.. but the pitchers were roided out to
One other season I would like to mention is Bret Boone in 2001.
I dont know bro, but what i remember was sosa getting hella attention cuz it was sosa vs mcguire and a year or two later it was bonds. Maybe im wrong but thats how i remember it, the race to 60(?) With sosa and mcquire
They were walking Bonds in BP back then 😅😂
Who remembers Josh Hamilton's insane home run derby
Funny how they promoted Bonds so hard when he was juiced and going for records. I remember they would always change the game coverage so you could watch Bonds at bat. They knew. It was the most well known secret, even to the fans. I think it's atrocious that they used Bonds and then threw him under the buss when it was convenient.
Kevin Brown threw a nasty "heavy ball"!
There should be no asterisk or ban on the steroid era players from the hall of fame. Everyone in mlb knew what was going on. These guys single handily saved baseball from extinction. They need to be celebrated just the same as any other player. I’d also argue that mlb owes these guys a massive debt that can never be repaid.
Nolan 301 strikeout season is impressive as well
Steroids don’t make you not strikeout so this is nuts
It helps when you get fear walked every other time 😁😁 but I'm with you my mans eye was insane
Barry is the best player to ever play baseball. Period.
Dudes will see this and just think ”hell yeah”
Barry Bonds should be in the hall of fame
Glad my team's guy during this era can't be talked about with the roid guys, does make me wonder how good ken griffey jr would of been on the juice though.
Best era of baseball.
Baseball has SO MANY stats!! Probably because nothing is going on 😂
Dude dont be salty tha u dont know that bonds had JMFR +21.0
If u cant understand that then ur venus must be in retrograde...stupid
"annual reasons" AHHHHH
Brady Anderson: 1996
How did Barry's head not explode?
Bring back the juice 💉
Luis Gonzalez not being on this list is criminal
Brady Anderson
2001 through 2004 bonds is a fringe Hall of Fame career level of numbers lol
Bonds wore so much padding so he could crowd the plate
Lets keep in mind, KGJ, did what he did with no steroids
These guys will make it to the HOF in like 2050 when some veteran's committee meets and decides to forgive them. Many of these guys won't be around to see their names in the hall nor will their descendants really care.
It was "ethically" wrong, but damn was it fun to watch.
I'm 39 the roid era was my youth/prime when I watched played went to more ball games then ever B4 or would after ...I don't hold the roid thing against any players that used them simply because sooo many were and let's be honest baseball was nvr so fun and exciting....long live the roid legends!!!!
'ROIDED 😂😅😂
Im one of the few who think he started back in the early 90s, his 20 lbs of muscle added in the '93 offseason was insane, but dude's still on a hall of fame path before that even.
Unfortunate what the steroid era did to countless legends. Need a select place in the hall for them all still, headlined by Bonds
Yep, they need to be in the hall but in a designated area for known steroid users.
I like that compromise
I get that steroids help but Barry bonds had such great hand eye coordination that he still would have been really good
I hated the steroid era not because I remembered it bc wasn’t alive for most of it but it completely turned my dad away from baseball. He hated it and bc of that he never got me into baseball early so it took my alot longer to get interested in it
Major League Baseball saw the rock being thrown, and then hid their eyes. And American story if I ever seen one.
Black eye to baseball
Several things to note:
1. “Cheating” goes back to the 50s likely with the heavy use of amphetamines.
2. Barry Bonds was an absolutely incredible hitter before the use of any performance enhancing drugs. No matter how much he took or didn’t take, he still had amazing hand eye coordination and gets overshadowed completely cause of his potential use.
Also Cancesco’s 40/40 season isn’t that great anymore.
Acuna Jr. demolished it and there are 30/30 guys half his size now.
Yeah Bonds was the best hitter without roids and was the best hitter with them. He infact had the 2nd 40/40 season in 1996 which was completely uncelebrated. His lack of recognition to inferior hitters like Mcguire, is almost certainly why he started them.
Jacoby Pillsbury
Can’t think about home runs and not think about cheaters
"If you're not cheating, you're not trying"- baseball, probably
MLB players are bigger and stronger than ever, so...
Please do one "There will never be another Roy Halladay"
Second this
Brady Anderson?
Not a big deal but Bonds 2002 OBP was .582, not .589
Add a corridor called Hall of Shame and be done with it already
it was fantastic....wonder how nba roided out year would look like lol