We are the slowest infrastructure builders in the world. Our projects constantly go over budget, over cost with no explanation. How in the hell do you hand out lucrative contracts with no penalty clause, no budget restraints, no budget restraints. Graft!
Years ago I was working in Hong Kong for a British consulting firm that participated with a consortium for the 1st stage design of an MTR subway line between Shatin and Central. It is a 17 km line that involved building new stations, tunneling several sections, and a tunnel under the harbour. The works started in May 2016 and finished in May 2022. That is, 6 years in total and the trains are running normally. At my return to Toronto in 2020 I found a TTC station at Yonge & Eglington was under construction, and is still under construction at the end of 2022. We Canadians are not morons, there's something wrong with the way the Eglington Crosstown LRT is managed? Or our politicians aren't so talented as we think?
I worked at Eglinton Crosstown station, you would be quite surprised how large it is, the largest station on crosstown, all 4 buildings at each corner of that intersection have underground access to cross town, they are building them to have a few stores too.
Well,the Finch West LRT project started in May 2018,and they said it would take 3 years to complete! Let’s hope that they could get it done by May 2024 , many thanks to the contractor!!!
As someone who lives on Eglinton West it has been an economic disaster! Nothing but empty storefronts and struggling small businesses from Weston Road all the way to Bathurst.
Toronto doesn’t build anything because the city has no money and the mayor refuses to raise taxes to pay for stuff. The mayor spent 8 years begging other levels of government to build things for the city because he refused to raise money to pay for it himself.
It would be best for Ontario to build without planning. From past experiences, everyone knows that planning, budget and timelines are irrelevant and ineffective in Ontario.
It is big corruption in Canada construction industry. We, Canada is only best at Welfare and immigration... nothing else. We are so behind compare to quite a few countries in the world. So, please stop criticize others nations ... focus on ourself. Oh forget, Canada is so very best on reseach,study, public inquiry, public debate, investigate, press release,... Spend all the project funds and nothing is done.
Metrolinx is a Provincial organization tasked with overseeing transport infrastructure in southern Ontario they can't "walk away" anymore then the Department of Agriculture can. People could be fired and it would be possible to dissolve the agency but it can't walk away. However, this is a Public-Private Partnership and the private sector part, that does the actual construction, is Crosslinx which is a consortium of ACS-Dragados, AECON, EllisDon, SNC-Lavalin. These corporations could walk away but of course if they tried there would be legal action against them.
@@JeremyMacDonald1973 Can and could be fined and charged. But those precious precious votes after all matter then a few more taxpayer dollars. They know it, and thats the name of the game alas keeping *good jobs in canada* and if that means sub par work and vote appeasing certain vote blocs they happily will do so.
@@pakeshde7518 Could not fine or charge them. That requires proving that they willfully broke the law which is highly doubtful. Could probably sue Crosslinx and its parent corps for breach of contract. With Metrolinx all you could do was fire people and possibly dissolve the agency.
Well don't rush them. I still remember the doors opening on the newest trains periodically while the train was moving. I saw it happen once while going over the Bloor Viaduct. Imagine a crowded train with people leaning against the doors between stops and that happens. lol.....DO IT RIGHT PEOPLE!
Historically the Chinese had a lot of early problems with their construction (and sometimes still do) and I suspect one reason they got so good at doing this sort of construction is that they simply have done an absolute ton of it for several decades. The Europeans do really good work most of the time but they simply build far more projects like these then we do in North America. I think its essentially the difference between building something like this for the first time versus doing it for the fifth time.
A lot of contractors here are awful.From the single individual that delays a business/personal job and then ask for more money to the big companies that replicate the same thing as the small dude!WTF is going on here?
York Regon on Hw7 build a bus stop in the middle of the road from Hwy 400 to Woodbine Ave takes years and spend taxpayers billions of dollars for just a bus stop.. you don’t see more than 5 peoples on the bus.
400 to Woodbine is, like, 20km long and goes across 3 different cities and connects up to the subway to downtown. A billion dollars for that is pretty cheap. Highway 7 gets pretty congested sometimes, so being able to whizz by on the bus is pretty sweet.
@tom hook To be fair, we live in a province where the right wing party won power with fewer votes than the left wing parties. That same government regularly overrides the constitution when people disagree with it, and they just made a law making municipal elections useless because mayors can now pass their own laws with only 33% of the vote in city council.
We are the slowest infrastructure builders in the world. Our projects constantly go over budget, over cost with no explanation. How in the hell do you hand out lucrative contracts with no penalty clause, no budget restraints, no budget restraints. Graft!
There's a reason our future lines are being given to the Germans and Japanese. They are actually competent.
Doug loves his property developed friends. That’s why.
@@octagonseventynine1253 Was approved under the Wynne government.
Company's purposely under bid knowing theirs no penalty to get the contracts.
@@twocansams6335 We should seriously just build these things in house.
Too many supervisors not enough workers, they want to delay it to make more money
Can bet that this won't be even done by 2025.
More like 5000
Absolute robbery. Tax money out the window
its still better then a new highway
The Finch West LRT they are doing a good job hopefully it can be finished by 2024
Years ago I was working in Hong Kong for a British consulting firm that participated with a consortium for the 1st stage design of an MTR subway line between Shatin and Central. It is a 17 km line that involved building new stations, tunneling several sections, and a tunnel under the harbour. The works started in May 2016 and finished in May 2022. That is, 6 years in total and the trains are running normally. At my return to Toronto in 2020 I found a TTC station at Yonge & Eglington was under construction, and is still under construction at the end of 2022. We Canadians are not morons, there's something wrong with the way the Eglington Crosstown LRT is managed? Or our politicians aren't so talented as we think?
I worked at Eglinton Crosstown station, you would be quite surprised how large it is, the largest station on crosstown, all 4 buildings at each corner of that intersection have underground access to cross town, they are building them to have a few stores too.
True but I like the Ellington Crosstown
Maybe time for a class action lawsuit against Metrolinx and the Crosslinx Construction consortium by local residents and BIAs?
Well,the Finch West LRT project started in May 2018,and they said it would take 3 years to complete! Let’s hope that they could get it done by May 2024 , many thanks to the contractor!!!
True
This is typical Canadian speed
Literally a Canadian and American issue 🤦🏿♂️. When are we going to be better at building big infrastructure projects 🤔??
As someone who lives on Eglinton West it has been an economic disaster! Nothing but empty storefronts and struggling small businesses from Weston Road all the way to Bathurst.
Even as far as redpath near Yonge you have businesses caged behind those fences while no work is being done out front
What if everyone on Eglinton, businesses and all get together and block off Eglington for a week ... to get people attention
Lol all this for a privately owned line what a joke
it’s not privately owned
Politicians debate forever and build nothing this is why i support strong mayor legislation. Asian cities build infrastructure overnight.
Toronto doesn’t build anything because the city has no money and the mayor refuses to raise taxes to pay for stuff. The mayor spent 8 years begging other levels of government to build things for the city because he refused to raise money to pay for it himself.
It would be best for Ontario to build without planning. From past experiences, everyone knows that planning, budget and timelines are irrelevant and ineffective in Ontario.
This project has been under construction for over half my lifetime. No hyperbole.
We build some private company profits. Lol. What a joke
Shocking!! LOL!! A BIIIIIIG RIP OFF!! Sue them!!
This disaster project is no where as bad compared to California’s High speed rail … don’t even get me started 😂
Watch the Ontario line and the Scarborough extension open before this one
It is big corruption in Canada construction industry.
We, Canada is only best at Welfare and immigration... nothing else.
We are so behind compare to quite a few countries in the world.
So, please stop criticize others nations ... focus on ourself.
Oh forget, Canada is so very best on reseach,study, public inquiry, public debate, investigate, press release,...
Spend all the project funds and nothing is done.
My neighbourhood is like a trash heap because of this thing. This city is a joke
All we need is a dedicated bus lane and bike lanes.
metrolinx dont care it will get paid, and if I remember they said if they get sued they would just walk and leave the mess to the city.
Metrolinx is a Provincial organization tasked with overseeing transport infrastructure in southern Ontario they can't "walk away" anymore then the Department of Agriculture can. People could be fired and it would be possible to dissolve the agency but it can't walk away. However, this is a Public-Private Partnership and the private sector part, that does the actual construction, is Crosslinx which is a consortium of ACS-Dragados, AECON, EllisDon, SNC-Lavalin. These corporations could walk away but of course if they tried there would be legal action against them.
@@JeremyMacDonald1973 Can and could be fined and charged. But those precious precious votes after all matter then a few more taxpayer dollars. They know it, and thats the name of the game alas keeping *good jobs in canada* and if that means sub par work and vote appeasing certain vote blocs they happily will do so.
@@pakeshde7518 Could not fine or charge them. That requires proving that they willfully broke the law which is highly doubtful. Could probably sue Crosslinx and its parent corps for breach of contract. With Metrolinx all you could do was fire people and possibly dissolve the agency.
I think it will be finished in 2024
no one alive today will see the ont line run
Well don't rush them. I still remember the doors opening on the newest trains periodically while the train was moving. I saw it happen once while going over the Bloor Viaduct. Imagine a crowded train with people leaning against the doors between stops and that happens. lol.....DO IT RIGHT PEOPLE!
Chinese contractors could have done it in 4 years. Here is a lot of money under the table by delaying it. We all know where that money goes.
Historically the Chinese had a lot of early problems with their construction (and sometimes still do) and I suspect one reason they got so good at doing this sort of construction is that they simply have done an absolute ton of it for several decades. The Europeans do really good work most of the time but they simply build far more projects like these then we do in North America. I think its essentially the difference between building something like this for the first time versus doing it for the fifth time.
A lot of contractors here are awful.From the single individual that delays a business/personal job and then ask for more money to the big companies that replicate the same thing as the small dude!WTF is going on here?
bullcrap
Pro tip: Next time a trainwreck like Metrolinx gives you a completion date just wink back. 😂
Mafia ties
It’ll be finished on February 30 /2023 for sure.
lol never
They would literally save money ripping it all out and pave a smooth road.
York Regon on Hw7 build a bus stop in the middle of the road from Hwy 400 to Woodbine Ave takes years and spend taxpayers billions of dollars for just a bus stop.. you don’t see more than 5 peoples on the bus.
400 to Woodbine is, like, 20km long and goes across 3 different cities and connects up to the subway to downtown. A billion dollars for that is pretty cheap. Highway 7 gets pretty congested sometimes, so being able to whizz by on the bus is pretty sweet.
@tom hook To be fair, we live in a province where the right wing party won power with fewer votes than the left wing parties. That same government regularly overrides the constitution when people disagree with it, and they just made a law making municipal elections useless because mayors can now pass their own laws with only 33% of the vote in city council.
Lmaooo
Maybe if you ran buses frequently instead of every half hour, more people would use them.
Most overrated city in the world