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The Myth of Arab Expulsion From Palestine - Melanie Phillips
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Journalist and author Melanie Phillips sets the record straight. The lies surrounding this conflict are endless and flabbergastingly distorted.
I for one refuse this absurd idea that we as Jews should feel guilty about the so called Palestinian's plight. Everything awful that has happened to them they have brought down upon themselves.
really “the palestinians have brought down upon themself what happened to them …. “ but believe me the zionists helped them a lot to steal their lands , to destroy their identity , to occupy and rule a settler colonial policy over the palestinian territories , to cause an ethnic cleansing , to kill tens of thousands of civilians , and so in and so on … just disgusting …
It is other Arab Muslim countries that have caused it.
@@GretsGarbo lies and manipulations !!
You’re insane
Or the result of the actions of their fellow Arab Muslim neighbouring countries.
As a Christian I have a place in my heart Carved out to the Jews Am Yisrael Chai
Any place in your heart for Palestinian Christians who are more native by far than any Ashkenazi!!!
@johns22 you got to be kidding
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No, not kidding!!!!
that's because you're an anti-semite.
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I stand for truth and stand with God's people.
_Am Israel chai_
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@@jasonBGI yhwh was a violent colonizing warlord. Abraham did not meet “god” in the road
@@wakizashipwreck huh
@@jasonBGI the stories of the bible are about a colonization event.
@@wakizashipwreckWithout lies, Islam dies.
The irony is that if the Palestinians had chosen to peacefully co-exist with Israel then they could have participated in the most stable, successful economy in the region. Their lives and those of their children could have improved generation upon generation.
Read Moshe Dayan. He explains how the occupation instigated every major battle, and every massacre they visited on the Palestinians. yizrael is the son of Og. The Palestinians are David.
@@wakizashipwrecknice try
@@wakizashipwreck So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all of islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived.
So tell me, why do you even believe that you will be with GOD in heaven on judgement day when you follow Mohammed? And do show the quran verses on which you base your belief.
@wakizashipwreck get it right they are not so called Palestinians but Arabs trying to use more propaganda to get more people to their cause
Palestinians were never of David
Psychological war...
Thank you for the truth !
Take a break ollie
* double speak
I stand with you ❤
Blessings for Israel.
This needs to be said! An additional fact is that, by International law, a country that is attacked and wins the war , has every right to take that offending country or rule that country.
But Palestine is not even a legal country or statehood😮 . it never was...😅
Maybe that’s written in your primitive religious book
@@kylea6353 No, it's pretty much the rules of war since the beginning of time. The only time that a prevailing nation or group of nations did not was after WWII, when the US and its allies could have annexed and divyed up Germany and Japan but instead decided to help each rebuild and redirect them away from the respective ideologies that caused each to declare war in the first place.
@@gmh471 Please do not try to teach me the international law. I am a lawyer and what you claim is wishful thinking.
@@kylea6353 Who is trying to teach you international law? Wait, are you a lawyer or an international lawyer. You can't just say "I'm a lawyer" and think that's sufficient. If you were, you would have said so. I'm a lawyer too. For 30 years. Not an international lawyer, but I'm up front about it. Not sure what you mean by "wishful thinking." Sounds like for a lawyer you don't comprehend and analyze like one. What I said is fairly well known by even lay people. As for whether Israel is or has a history of violating international law (systematically or otherwise), it does not and has not despite the crap that the UN and the bogus ICJ continuously spew (save for the perhaps handful of outliers that happen with EVERY country and military). Check out Natasha Hausdorff and learn something from someone who knows more than everyone on this message board combined.
All these points are absolutely true.
To top it off; Israeli Arabs have rights & affluence their Muslim brethren in neighboring states, lack; education, medical coverage, infrastructure, etc. Israel got #5 on the World Happiness Report & Israel Muslims were included. Palestinians got # 103. All the neighboring states are around that number; not happy places.
@@brynawaldman5790 kept in ignorance so they dont see there leaders with there hands in the till living the high life at there expence .but the internet is the leaders biggest enemy
One might also ask about the rights of Jews living in Muslim countries…. if they’re allowed to live there at all?
From Canada, love and prayers for Israel and all Jewish people everywhere. 🙏🤍💙🤍
Don’t lump real Jewish people in with yizrael
The Israel need to do a good job of counteracting all these lies.. Israel medis need to be improved
Exactly. Jews try explaining facts. That is how we will always lose. There is zero defense in winning politics. Either you have your enemies on defense or you have lost….period.
1. Name the founder of the mythical Palestinians.
2. Name one Palestinian historical figure before Arafat and Al Huseini?
3. Name one thing Palestinians have ever said that is not a lie?
4. Name one people on earth who have ever turned down a country one, let alone seven times other than the Palestinians?
5. Tell me why there is not even the letter “P” in the Arab language? Game over.
Israeli media, with the exception of channel 14, has long been captured by the left. And the left sides with the Arab colonizers over their own people.
No matter the improvement, it can always be countered by just calling it "Jewish propaganda", no matter how good a job they may be doing.
@@acqueenarkpyanne721 be hard the muslims are acomplished liers and winger's they have been for 700 years they live a lie
It doesn't mean we shouldn't keep saying it. And louder I think. Goebbels and Yasser Arafat figured out that if you keep saying a falsehood often enough and loud enough, people will start believing it. Hyperbole.
I love Israel and Jewish People so much My Dear Jewish Friend.🙏💙✡✝☮
Please make a good job of pushing these information out to the world..
It won’t, cuz it’s all lies.
One, CRUCIAL addition, not "pallies", since they were NOT called that in 1948 as of course you know, but make it clear for those that might not know. This is how we got to this mess, we've let it slide since the 1960's when they began calling themselves by that name....how naive we were.....that name means no more us! That was their whole purpose! So lets stop it already calling them "pallies". These are ARABS
It's incredibly hard to do that. That's like calling someone from Crimea a Caucasian. We have Uyghurs when there's no state of Uyghur, and frankly, Kurds when there's no state of Kurdistan. So you have to name them something to identify them geographically.
@@OZTutoh Doesn't matter how hard it is. We cannot validate a l ie. That name literally means the dest ruction
of🇮🇱. That's the purpose they adopted that name in the 1960s for. Did you know that they actually ha ted being reffered to by that name pre 1948? At that time, all locals were called "pallies" by the foriegns, but they insisted to be called ara bs, they didn't want to be included in the same group with us. Pre1948, an ara b ID simply said "ara b", a juu ID said "plstnian". How ironic....
Anyway, if what they did last year isn't our wake up call idk what is. Maybe the world will continue calling them pallies due to naivity, but it's our obligation as juus to stop doing so
@@OZTutoh Apologies for the misswording and spaces between words... otherwise it gets deleted (my acount is marked for some reason i can't use half the vocabulary)
@@elijahtt4853 Thanks on the word modification explanation. I keep believing it is the video author making the changes, but it does seem to affect everyone for and against.
Jewish csme n made the land prosper
Returned not came back and all Jews never actually left the mideast except in times of forced removal or to escape abuse.
@@acqueenarkpyanne721 true and now the arabs want to steal it back .
@@janetprice85 theres always been a few there before the radicals arofat came to loot gazas aid they all pretty much rubbed along together .these terrorists are not the friends of anyone gaza included there bank accounts are proof of that wouldnt you thing they would realise they have been screwed over by them . 👍🇬🇧🇮🇱
I often see comments from the hamass internet brigades, claiming Israel is an "occupier" and has no right to self defence.
Thanks!
More people need to read "Animal Farm"; And see how the history of "The battle of Cowshed" was re-written.
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Much needed information! Thank You! 👍
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The initial Arab understanding of Nakba meant Catastrophe, in the sense that they had failed to defeat Israel.
You mean western imperialism. yizrael didn’t technically kick them out of homes they’d been living in for generations, a coalition of well paid militias forced those poor people out of their homes.
@@wakizashipwreckNothing like that happened. Stop posting nonsense comments.
@@Frost-uy9me it’s fact, hasbarist. No matter how hard you try, you can’t obfuscate the truth.
Mark Twain wrote journals about the Holy Land in the last century and was astonished how the land appeared desolate! And it was still Ottoman empire that was ruling the land.
I would add that in the 1830's Muhammed Ali, the ruler of Egypt, sent an army to conquer parts of the Ottoman Empire. His armies got into Lebanon before they were turned back. During that time, he resettled about 100,000 Egyptian peasants in what today is called Israel. In UM Elfahm, an Arab city in Israel, there is even a quarter called the Egyptian quarter, because of the origin of its inhabitants. One of the most prominent Arab families in Nablus is the El Masri (meaning Egyptian) family. If we skip 100 years, during the 1930s, over 100,000 Arabs from neighboring areas came into the British Mandate of Palestine because the Jews created many jobs. Taking into consideration the high birthrate of the Arabs at the time, a good percentage of the Arab population had its roots outside of the British Mandate.
Far, far more than 100.000. From 1932-1944 about 500,000 Arab migrants came in from the surrounding regions drawn to the better wages and improved living conditions being developed by the Jewish people. In 1937 I think it was, 34,000-37,000 Syrian Arabs came down from Syria into the future Israel region. So many that a Syrian province official complained that he didn't have enough field workers to harvest his crops!
The Middle East migrations into Israel are a 'dirty little secret' of the Middle East. The leaders of the Arab countries know; the delegate of the UAE who was accosted by a mob referred to them as "gypsies" and "mongrels."
Did the Egyptian general really resettle that many? I read in what I thought was a reliable history book that he resettled a tribe of about 20,000.
In any case, I recently learned of another source of Muslim immigration into Palestine: in the late 1800s when the Ottoman Empire was weakening, they resettled Muslims from the regions they were losing into regions they still held. They resettled 2 million Bosnians and Circassians into the Levant, including Palestine.
@@floramondecar9884Are there any sources to back it up? I want to educate people about this, but I know if I don't have a source, they won't believe me.
Tip of modernity for my fellow internet traveler, search yourself and verify when people reply, happy educating yourself, the art of educating yourself is being an autodidact or a polymath
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape If you're referring back to my question about sources for data about migrations into Palestine, of course, I've searched the web for this info. It's only because I have not been able to find specific data as to numbers of migrants that I asked the commenter for sources.
There was no expulsion---They just left on their own volition!!!
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If that were true and it’s not they would still have the legal right to return
@@MackDaddy-eb4yido the 850 000 Jews who were expelled from neighbouring Arab countries as a result of the 1948 war ALSO have that “right of return”- or does that only work for the Arabs…….?
@@Glenrokyes under international law those jews have the right to return I don’t think they really want to but some probably do
@MackDaddy-eb4yi, if you walk away from your home or land, you are giving up ownership. No right to return.
@@MackDaddy-eb4yigood. At least you’re not a hypocrite. Now tell me- WHY have the Jews not done so, and why do they mostly not WISH to…..?
It is indeed an information war. Israel needs to constantly and consistently debunk all false information. Keep up the fabulous job Israel 🇮🇱
Every accusation is an admission
Truth.
Very excellent! Thank you for mentioning the fact that this is a war with Ishmael & his offspring!
Thank you.
The Arab Nakba is a myth! The Jewish Nakba was real. 700,000 Jews violently expelled from Arab Lands where lived before Islam existed.
The Palestinians are the genetic ancestors of the Natufians. They’ve been there continuously for 15,000 years. Save your nonsense
@@wakizashipwreckLook for a better script. Without lies, Islam dies.
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"Natufians" !!!! 😄
I bet you are the kind of person who also believes in "big foot"
Seriously, get a life!!!!
@@johns22 huh? The modern pals share 30% dna with the Natufians. It’s peer reviewed scientific fact. 15,000 years of unbroken stewardship.
“Get a life” was a great sitcom. A barrel of laughs, like your dimensionally deficient perspective.
@@johns22 it’s peer reviewed scientific fact. Modern pals share 30% dna with the Natufians. How can you equate something with archeological, and genetic proof with something from myth?
There are multiple dog sites in the northern occupied territories that have uncovered Natufian settlements. One is a burial site containing a highly revered Natufian female shaman. The Temple Mount was built on Natufian land.
The temples of Ashera, Ba’al, and yahweh were all built on Natufian land. The cannabis used to enthrall the first worshippers was grown on Natufian land.
It should be understood that the area is important to the monotheists, but religious dogma cannot supersede an ancestral claim. They were literally making bread in the area known as Yaffa 9000 years before Judaism existed.
We , meaning me and my family fully support Israel!!!
Am Yisrael Chai ❤
Thank you. Love this channel. May you prosper.
The circumcision is It is a symbolic action to remember Abrahams willingness to sacrifice his first born son Ishmael.
You’re good at this. Consider debating Candace & the rest of them.
He wouldn’t debate anyone that’s not the point this is a misinformation channel most of his claims are laughable or abhorrent
*FROM THE DECLARATION OF ISRAEL'S INDEPENDENCE 1948 ISSUED AT TEL AVIV ON MAY 14, 1948:*
"WE APPEAL - *_in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months_* - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State *ON THE BASIS OF FULL AND EQUAL CITIZENSHIP AND DUE REPRESENTATION IN ALL ITS PROVISIONAL AND PERMANENT INSTITUTIONS."*
168,000 Arab property owners whose property fell within the borders of the reestablished Israel took the Israelis at their word and did not flee. Their descendants are now over 2,000,000 and comprise 21.1% of the population of Israel.
*_AND,_* the provisions for citizenship were part and parcel of the original UN Plan for the Partition of Palestine. The Palestinian Arabs of 1948 *_REJECTED_* the offer of 45% *_of the BEST_* of Palestine as *_their_* state and attempted to wipe out the Jews and take ALL of the land.
@@Construimus_Batuimus I don’t think there was any justification for the creation of Israel in the first place if i were the brits id have given it to Egypt
@@MackDaddy-eb4yi I don't think you think at all; I think you do exactly what your your troll farm manager tells you to do, Abdul.
Considering *ALL* of the history over the centuries in this place called "Palestine," there was every reason for the *_reestablishment_* of Israel.
Find a *_real_* job and stop lying for a living.
Am Yisrael Chai
Israel *IS.*
Israel *WILL BE.*
Of course its BS, the nakba, is about the arabs defeat,
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From the river to the Sea always was and always will be Israel. G-D bless the IDF. 👉🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👈❤
Another thing. The widely accepted unchallenged number is that 700 000 Arabs were displaced/fled in 1948 ignoring the fact that many of them were already living in The West Bank and Gaza where the Arabs fled to. In 1947 The West Bank's population was 550 000 and the population of Gaza was 180 000. The total Arab population from the river to the sea in 1948 was 1.2 million. Not forgetting 100 000 Arabs who did not flee and were absorbed by Israel as citizens of the new state. Do the math and little over 400 000 Arabs were displaced/fled from Israel's borders to The West Bank and Gaza. That's only 33 % of the entire Arab population. Yet 100% of them are classified as displaced refugees today.
Good remark. Also, at least 180000 remained and become israeli citizens; so more than you said. Aside course of beduins, druzers, samarians, cirkassians, etc, whom never had problem with living in a jewish dominated Israel.
Another point: in 1948 about one million Jews were displaced from the Arab countries, they were living during thousands years. Without properly, without compensation and without anyone admitting them as refugees. Israel adopted them unlike Arab countries didn’t accept to absorb the “Palestinians”.
@@gadipollack5578 Very true about these many jewish refugees from the arabic countries - at that time more than the amount of european Jews, whom arabic refugees NO propalestinian ever mentions.... Also, this exposes the myth Israel is some sort of european, sionists colonialism. While its true the skeleton philosophy behind the creation of the state Israel is sionism, so most Israeli are children to refugees - Including at least half of israelis are children to jewish refugees from arabic countries... Not even to mention; colonialism means there is a state standing behind, sending its citizens as colonialists and supporting them, even if necessary with weapons and army forces. Nothing such with Israel, and thus, Israel cant be no colonialist state, even aside of these refugees from arabic states.
“We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, what is to be done with the Palestinian population? Ben-Gurion waved his hand and adjuster, which said “drive them out”. - YITZHAK RABIN
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The Arab homeland is Arabia. Nobody has expelled them from Arabia. But, numerous Jews were expelled from their homes in Tunisia, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and many other places in Africa and the Levant, where they had live long before the Arab invasion. Yet, even though there were more than twice as many more real Jewish refugees, than Arabs who falsely claim to having been expelled, no special UN agency was established to aid them.
You should read the genetic studies which show that many Arabs in the Levant region have Canaanite DNA.
@chumpincustardchops8343
Facts usually irritate unscrupulous and immoral people. Without lies, Islam dies.
@@Frost-uy9me It’s ironic you say that because firstly I’m not a Muslim and secondly I’m pointing to scientific evidence which is well accepted. So you are obviously clueless.
God Bless Israel. The West must realise that if you fall, we all fall. Am Yisrael Chai!
“Palestinian refugees” are defined as those who lived there 1946 till 1948.because thats the time most of them came to “palestine” to work for the british
The myth? A land without a people for a people without a land. Shameless propaganda by the best liars in the business.
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Melanie Phillips explains the way that Jews purchased the land from the local owners prior to 1948 perfectly amicably and legally. After 1948 and up to the present day Israeli authorities and groups and individuals continued to buy land from the Gazans and WB Arabs through UNRWA as an intermediary. This was both within the 1948 borders but also in the WB and Gaza. That was why Israel when it left Gaza in 2005 and took the Israeli settlers there away had to compensate them for the land they had bought. Israel gave it to the PA.
Try reading a real historian like Ilan Pappe. Melanie is the zionist equivalent of a holocaust denier.
The Nakba occurred and im not pro anybody.
Dont forget that in Genesis a 12 vs 1-3 that God envoked a curse on what we call today Antisemitism. It is a curse that He has never revoked. So regardless of who you are, if you hate the Jewish people, seek their destruction and the end of Israel then God will curse you. So when life becomes extremely hard, difficult and fruitless ask yourself this question. Am I enjoying God's blessing or enduring His curse? In the way one or a nation treats Israel, you must decide.
Also go to Romans 9-11. The apostle Paul was beginning to see the seeds of antisemitism in Replacement Theology of the now mainstream churches. He pointed out, I believe in Romans 11:17 that Gentile believers are grafted in to the vine via grace, and have No right to arrogance over the vine. And that if He grafted you in, He can just as easily cut you out for arrogance. "It is a terrible thing to be in the sight of an angry Gd." Paul.
Islamists know that as long as Israel lives, the bases and claims of Islam weaken.🥰
Or backfire on israel. At present we dont know.
(1:15~) King Abdulla..."The Arabs were as prodigal ? (1:20~) in selling their land as they were in useless wailing & weeping."
It's just like what the king of the children of Ammon said to Jephthah in (Judges 11:13), then Jephthah had to correct the "facts" of the king of the children of Ammon (Judges 11:14-27)
Mad Woman!
The Arabs are responsible for the Nakba, not the Jews.
No lies Islam dies. Stand with Israel as always 💙🇮🇱💙🇮🇱💙🇲🇾
More details supporting the Nativity please. That would be a great way to deconstruct Roger Waters 'it's Palestinian land's line.
Go look up every article you can find by Peter Baum.
I thought it was a Melanie Phillips podcast
Total lies.
Robert Faurisson is a renowned historian, too.
What? You mean the 'renowned' Holocaust denier who said Hitler never condemned anyone because of their race or religion and who in 1991 was dismissed from his academic post?
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The same. You get my point?
@@danielreiss-cy4zr Are you claiming Phillips' claims are false?
Both sides twist, oversimplify and selectively use historical events to forward their agendas. Phillips account is no different. Benny Morris provides the most balanced account I’m aware of - there is blame on both sides and no one gets through without criticism.
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Moreover, a large portion of the Jordanians people called themselves Palestinians. It's litteraly the same people.
In the past in all these nations: Iraq, Syria, Jordan, there were a project of a big arab state.
They speak the same language, there flags look all the same, they have the same religion, same values, they look the same, in the past they wanted to all be one nation, but now when Israël comes they act like they are different and did not have their state.
It's not just that there a lot arab states and just one jewish state, the people they call Palestinians also have their state, it's called Jordan where a vast pourcentage of the citizens in the population call themselves Palestinians.
The Palestinian identity was just a propaganda against Israël by arab leaders who wanted the big Arab state.
They wanted all the region: Iraq, Jordan, Syria, and also current Israël and they wanted no jewish state at all, even if it was 7 time smaller than all these country united.
Thank God, greed was not rewarded and the ones who just wanted a state somewhere where their ancestors lived for thousands of years got their dream to come true.
can you post the link to the Ishmaelite Exile video you mentioned here.
The 7th century is a long time ago. Any group having been in the land for 14 centuries could be considered indigenous in their own right. They've long ceased to be invaders. However, I have heard that many who predated the wave of Arab immigrants in the late 19th-early 20th centuries had arrived only in the early 19th century, so they didn't go very far back. I'd like to know what the actual proportions were of Arabs who descended from relatively recent arrivals versus those with long roots in the area.
None of which matters. This never was a competition for who was there longer. The Brits conquered the Ottomans, so they were the new rulers. The Brits and the LON / UN saw that BOTH cultures had been living in the region for ages, so they split the land. The Jews accepted and created a nation. The Arabs refused because they wanted it ALL.
@@harrynutzach307religious Jews were a extreme minority before the 1900s Zionism wasn’t effective enough with peaceful only methods so the nakba happened
Where did all those so called Palestinians come from ??
They came from poland,ukraine,Russie,germany ....etc!!!!!!!
Most of them from eastern europe.
The Soviet Union’s intelligence unit created, out of thin air, during the Cold War, the fake narrative of an Arab Palestine- which had never existed before the Cold War. Note Bene: The Soviet Union (USSR) no longer exists, either.
The USSR paid an Egyptian born college student upstart, whose name is Yasir Arafat (1st leader of the Neely created PLO) to lead the Palestinian Liberation Authority. Why? Russia and its successor, the USSR always wanted a “warm sea port” in the Mediterranean for trade & military & economic reasons. The Soviet Union (USSR) wanted its troublemakers I.e. Yadira Arafat & the PLO to cause anarchy & havoc in Israel. 🇮🇱 so that Israel would allow USSR naval vessels to use Israel’s sea coast & its Ports in Haifa, Ashdod, Ashkelon to counter American naval bases in the NATO (Greece, Italy, France, Spain) and Mediterranean Sea.
Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and most invaded from Jordan. Of course those are all Arab colonized lands, and they originated in Arabia.
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@@deborahfreedman333 but why did they go there right before the creation of Israel ??
The work yourself and Melanie do is very important, keep it up 😊
5:05 the Bible also predict in exile for Israël in the last days that will be among the surrounding nations. When they will attack Israël before God intervene and destroys them.
The books of Ezekiel chap.38, 39 and Zechariah chap. 12, 13, 14 speak of this.
Also in Daniel it speak of a end time tribulation that will be the most hard before, the resurection.
And it mean what it says and says what it mean. It's not a metaphor for psycholigical torment. Unfortunately harder times are to come, but the good news is that in the end God come and save and deliver all his people.
The last day exile of Israël, Jacob trouble and tribulation will be short, very short. The ennemy will disapear forever.
Very glad the Nativity of Christ widely celebrated is put forward to PROVE that Jesus the Jew was born in Bethlehem, and grew up in Nazareth, both inside present-day ISRAEL.
@@michaelshapiro1543 Both cults of Jesus have STAINED the Land of the Living with the Blood of Gd's Firstborn Son Israel the Jews.
@@michaelshapiro1543 The Moshiach of the Bible is King David's progeny, a mortal man of flesh and blood who Isaiah tells comes at the End of the Days and will be ANIMATED BY THE FEAR OF THE LRD!
lol Melanie Phillips. British commentator/news paper columnist. she knows f all
Reading on podcasts is very weak. Doesn't work
1. The amount of land purchased by the jews during the great flights is less than 5% of the land
2. Up until 1840 the population of arabs who are documented (alot where undocumented) are at least 520,000 with less than 25,000 jews… and during that time during the western mandates of palestine the arabs were already fighting for independance
3. Arab christians existed in palestine not due to islamic concuest yet they where dispossed the same
4. The current palestinian resistance is not due antisemitism or anti-jew ideology but rather anti-colonial ideology (just as it was in ottoman, french , british mandate those were not anti-christian resistance)
5, even if we grant that jews has a history in that land it still doesn’t translate into occupying and killing those who are on the land right now who played no role in expelling the jews from either europe or judea previously
Free palestinians
There were Arabs in the land when Nehemia came to Jerusalem... (Neh 3:19)
I have also heard that many of the arabs living in Israel gaza or Judea and Samaria have genetics to the reason, particularly the Christian Arabs. The Muslim Arabs have a more obviously mixed ancestry coming from the Arabian peninsula or even mostly. But many Arabs mainly Christian Arabs have lots or ancestry from the levant and they are even descended from Jews who were forcefully converted, same goes for Muslim Arabs although a smaller portion of their genetics. We need to understand the other side in order to properly rebuke them. And with this it seems like a Christian arab ‘palestinian’ ‘refugee’ might be pretty pissed that they’re outside of the levant. However this type of connection does not apply to all or most of the so-called refugees because many of them immigrated into the levant later when the Jews were making it a better place to live. So it’s important to acknowledge this in our arguments and practice good faith and know what we’re up against. Israel is still in the right and there are many cases where people weren’t able to return to their land after a war, such as Germans living in land now controlled by Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe who were expelled back to Germany after world war 2. So this should be our stance that it is normal in war for people of the losing side to be permanently displaced if their side loses and they should be integrated into society elsewhere. Israel shouldn’t be held to a standard higher than the rest of the world.
04:00 Arab immigration into Palestine during the 19th century started decades before the first Aliya and was much more limited in number than what this video implies. See Frantzman, S. J., & Kark, R. (2013). The Muslim Settlement of Late Ottoman and Mandatory Palestine: Comparison with Jewish Settlement Patterns. Digest of Middle East Studies, 22(1), 74-93. doi:10.1111/j.1949-3606.2012.00172.x
Seriously?
Pa LIES tine
Older people, which includes myself circa 70 years of age, have a much fuller, and I think more accurate, appreciation of Israel’s history, and I would wager that the vast majority of us older folk side fully with Israel. The problem is with the young and the misinformation passed on to them as education. That’s where the correction needs to be.
Sure thing 😂
Yes, those of us alive, when the Arab occupiers adopted a name they can't pronounce, have a more accurate knowledge of the history of the region. We haven't been indoctrinated to believe falsehoods.
Not even a clip. Bait and Switch. Hate that
Does anyone have a good answer why gypsies didn’t get a state after ww2
Had they bought up large amounts of land in an empire that was soon to disolve, in their ancestral home ( india) or at least a land they have historical connection too, they might have. It's possible they still could have. The soviet union considered creating an autonomous gypsy Republic. Idk what happened to that.
@@AdamAdamHDL it was dissolved because of the rothchilds the reason gypsies didn’t get a state after the holocaust was because they were to poor to corrupt any host nations
Why is an event in History so controversial ???
Because all the lies involved !
One word. Ant*semet*sm
Because the Arabs developed a counter narrative to the actual history, and have captured ME history departments, to disseminate their lies since the 1960s.
@@WideAnimationHandlelol both sides are Semites wtf are even saying
Do you want to know the answer?
Do you actually want to know or did you just fart that question out of the side of your neck?
Lie lie lie
I remember Christopher Hitching saying some Arabs were forcefully evicted by some Jewish zealots, and I'll be honest if he said it I 100% believe him that it happened!
Rest of what you say I also know is correct and true.
again it is a case of #notall and every case should be judged by its own merits not by tribalism.
Yeah we need to be honest with ourselves that a small proportion were expelled by Jewish militias. If there were to be a right to return, it could perhaps only apply to those who can prove they have descendants who were expelled by Jewish militias, which will be an amount not enough to disrupt the demographic balance and will be seen as morally fair. Some were also told by arab leaders to leave but I believe the vast majority left in the heat of war after false rumors arose from deir yasin of rape and massacres happening that were published in the news that led many arabs to flee. Someone correct me on this information if they want to. I still think Israel is overall in the right its just our enemies overemphasize the arabs expelled by Jewish militias and make it seem like this was the case for all of them. You could also argue there should be no right of return anyway because Jews were kicked out and fled other middle eastern countries and aren’t able to return, and it led to an india pakistan style population transfer on a smaller scale. No one is asking for a right to return in the indian subcontinent.
The problem was, the land was sold and many of the tenants were forcedly evicted..
@@bella-hi4oo It was a while since I watch the Hitch comment on the story, but I had the impression Zionist, the ultra zealot kind, ganged up and forced all the Arabs out of a zone. I'll have to go see if I can find it again after Lotas Eaters
@@bella-hi4oo ua-cam.com/video/ejadhwDB-OY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Bucketheadhead
not the video I was thinking of, but he does mention that evictions of deed holders in Jerusalem. That should be regarded as a crime should it not?
So Hitchings lied. So what?
I'm not on either side actually but this video is ridiculous. 15,000 "palestinians" brutally murdered, 55.000 forced to leave, over 600,000 civilians who fled for fear and were not allowed to return to their homes, laws passed to justify the latter and even appropriate funds from bank accounts, and this is not taking their property? Even more Jewish people expelled from their homes in Arab countries and centuries of persecution certainly also true, but two wrongs never make a right.
Hello Ollie, thank you for all you do. I dont know whether you have a chance to read all the comments, but I hope and pray 🙏🙏🙏, that you will read this one I'm writing now. Please make a video and get to the bottom of that supernova music festival on October 7 . Ive never heard anyone from Israel talking about it. Talk about organisers - the crowd from Brasil, talk about their ideology, what they believe etc etc. When i researched more about supernova festival it became very clear to me that this event was an insult to God of Israel, very similar to the golden calf from the exodus story. Please do it. If those who attended dont want to repent for what they did, other God fearing people can ask God for forgiveness on behalf of those who attended. God bless you and protect you Ollie 🙏
The death toll in Gaza is well over 187,000. Doesn't look too good. Do I see you on any of your videos condemning this. ?
This was very powerful, and I absolutely agree. Thank you!
You are literally making up history as you go in this video
Why was it made a felony in 2010 to Expound on the Nakba ??
Was the hannabal directive a myth?
I don’t believe Israel killed their own on oct 7 but i do believe they knew ahead of time an attack was going to happen
It was an idea that Israeli military not be taken alive. This was due to idf soldiers who had be captured by the Syrians being tortured to death anyway. It was proposed that if idf were captured by the enemy, the idf would immediately attack said enemy to return the soldier (rather than let then be taken back behind enemy lines) even if the fight kills the solider in the process.
It was never introduced, and of course is subject to anti Israeli propaganda.
@@AdamAdamHDL
Your own civilians as well?
@josephgee143
No, the directive has no mention of civilians. It was a proposal explicitly about soldiers captured in combat, and not adopted. It's essentially men on the battlefield telling their comrade's "don't let them take me alive".
All this other talk is slander.
This is propaganda. I suggest you go read Illan Pappe's book 'The Ethnic Cleansing of Israel'
At no point did you show Melanie Phillips saying what you spoke, odd, your dirty laundry t-shirt is distracting from the positivity of the message
the nakba is pretty well documented... tell me, how many Pali's live 'in' the settlements...
Yeah we need to be honest with ourselves that a small proportion were expelled by Jewish militias. If there were to be a right to return, it could perhaps only apply to those who can prove they have descendants who were expelled by Jewish militias, which will be an amount not enough to disrupt the demographic balance and will be seen as morally fair. Some were also told by arab leaders to leave but I believe the vast majority left in the heat of war after false rumors arose from deir yasin of rape and massacres happening that were published in the news that led many arabs to flee. Someone correct me on this information if they want to. I still think Israel is overall in the right its just our enemies overemphasize the arabs expelled by Jewish militias and make it seem like this was the case for all of them. You could also argue there should be no right of return anyway because Jews were kicked out and fled other middle eastern countries and aren’t able to return, and it led to an india pakistan style population transfer on a smaller scale. No one is asking for a right to return in the indian subcontinent
No, we don't have to admit that something that never happened, happened. The Jewish militias only fought against those who were attacking the Jews, and trying to destroy Jewish communities.
Do you actually believe your own bullshit
Rabin himself said he expelled 10s of thousands of Arabs from Lydda and Ramle
It’s not a myth. Some of those people are still alive and their descendants certainly are. You try to erase it to clear your image and your conscience, but it will haunt you forever.
You guys love the right wing don’t ya? LOLOL
*** The Nakba ??? in 2010 it was outlawed to discuss the Nakba in Israel. = WHY ??? ***
Is no such thing ?
Do u also believe Elvis is still alive
LOL, some people will believe anything. Amazing.