Bob Crane Victim of Addiction
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Bob Crane AKA Colonel Robert Hogan. On top of the world but with a dark addiction to pornography. Beaten to death and to this day unsolved. If you wish to visit his grave you can find him in Westwood Memorial Park in Los Angeles. Follow Wilshire Blvd a half mile east of I-405 then turn right onto Glendon Ave. The cemetery is on your left. Bob is in the central lawn of the cemetery. Counting from the drive bordering the top of the lawn, he is in the fifth row in the middle. If you would like to suggest a future episode please send an email to contactusnow@talesoffameandfate.com
I absolutely adore this guy. Sitting here binge watching Hogan Heros at this precise moment which made me google him on UA-cam. No matter what his flaws or addiction I'll always hold him in the highest regards. He without sin cast the first stone😢What I wouldn't give to relive those days and times 🌹 Rest In Paradise 🌹
He was a truly talented man. He unfortunately was robbed of his realization that he needed help before he could get it.
Paradise?? I highly doubt that
@@marksorenson5871 Well than doubt you will ever know!!!😥
I don't.‼️😁
@@marksorenson5871 - Eh, I certainly understand why you said that but the fact is that there are people who repent at the last minute. We don’t know who and we don’t know how but it happens. The fact that he was in therapy to get rid of the sex addiction is a good sign that he was making an effort to do better. How all that comes out is between him and God. We will not know until we pass and we may not know even then.
Carpenter was guilty Bob Crane was trying to distance himself from him. Bob wanted a cure for his addiction. Carpenter was obsessed with Bob. He couldn't deal with the fact that Bob no longer wanted to be around him.
But the book said that no blood of Robert Crain was in carpenters car, it was someone else’s, so who killed him, Robert crain
@@lbl9066 John Carpenter murdered Bob Crane.
The blood found in Carpenter's rental car matched Bob Crane's rare blood type but it couldn't be proven it was Bob Crane's blood.
Debby I agree with you.
John Carpenter had all these women to have sex with because he was with Bob Crane. No woman would look twice at him and he knew it.
So his sex life was coming to an end when Bob Crane dumped him.
@@lbl9066 there was both blood and what almost certainly looked like brain matter. By the time they tested it for DNA almost 40 years had passed and it was a very, very small sample that was almost certainly completely contaminated. Really if there's blood and brain matter in your rental car you're probably the one who killed your best friend who's head had just been bashed in hours earlier.
"Carpenter was guilty". That's not what the jury found.
The only thing I can say about Sigrid is what goes around comes around, now she knew exactly how Bob's first wife felt! , Sigrid was just another home wrecker to take a married man. Bob was very handsome, but there was nothing on the inside, that was just such a shame. But I hope he is at peace. Edited to add... He did not twist those women's arms to be with him in anyway knowing he was a married man. The women were just as guilty, so don't make out Bob was all at fault.
Great job...and advice. I knew he was murdered. Didn’t know he was a good drummer, radio host, interviewer. He had everything. Seemed very happy. True addiction can bring anyone down.
The opening drum solo to HOGAN'S HEROES is done by Bob himself.
The sad thing about this all is that the 1975 Bob Crane show was a very well written show, and had excellent acting. Had it not been cancelled, this may never have happened.
Crane didn't feel that way at all. He felt the show was rushed to production by NBC and that he had absolutely no chemistry with any of his castmates. The critics were absolutely vicious in their criticism of the show and it was canceled after 13 weeks.
Well I think the reason that Bob Crane couldn't find another hit show with the public, is simply because the public only wanted to see him as Hogan.
Bob Crane should have eitheir gone back to radio, or written a script for a Hogan's Heroes reunion film.
I remember reading somewhere that Crane held, notoriously to some, a staunch conservative outlook. It's a such a shame to learn about his vices, not because of any judgements due to his actions, but the hypocrisy of it all. I know he wouldn't have wanted that to be his legacy, and the fact he was never able to redeem his actions before his early death is all the more sad.
Anyhow, thanks so much for the video! It was really well made and you perform well in front of the camera!
Addiction is deadly to anyone regardless of lifestyle, outlook or world view. The Bob Crane story is tragic and often forgotten.
Thus saith the Lord, set thy house in order, for thou shalt die, and not live. -2 Kings 20.1
Bob was a conservative Republican.
How has no one responded to this hilarious oral dissertation at the beginning of this doc? It's like a middle school production...but at a really good middle school.
Sorry you were not happy with the production. Still thanks for your feedback.
Thank you
We plan out our lives before we are born. We then agree to forget our lives on the Otherside and see if we will make the same choices while here. It's a fabulous game that we play with our Soul Groups because we are Eternal and this is a blast. We know that no what happens we don't really die. It's like waking up from a dream, you only know you've been dreaming once you've awakened. Once you're awake no matter how bad the dream you know you're not really hurt by it.
So yeah fate is Karma, it's all designed for the purpose of growth.
I remember when he was murdered and, at that time, Hogan's Heroes, was being aired in syndication and I think quite in demand although off of prime time for years. Very sad story.
Regardless of his personal monsters he was indeed a very talented man.
@@TalesofFameandFate indeed he was!
Just so darn sad
I thought he idolized gene Krupa?
I’ve read both books, so sad
Bob crane is my favorite actors and my favorite show, Hogan's heroes
He was a very talented man. We all have our daemons unfortunately his got the best of him.
@@TalesofFameandFate indeed
Breaks my heart he was murdered
@@lbl9066 Agreed
There is a book about Bob Crane, but I never read it yet. I watched Hogans Heroes when new, as a child, and thought he was cute. During 1975, Crane had a short-lived sitcom on TV of him as a married professional photographer to a magazine, if I recall correctly. He had no kids, and he and his wife lived in a nice apartment in a city. I thought it was funny. It was called The Bob Crane Show. I remember on the show, he sometimes wore a white sweatshirt with a dark sketch of Beethoven on it.
I've never read anything about Bob Crane seeking therapy of any kind for his sex addiction, even after it cost him his family and his career. Was he a "victim of addiction", or an addict who refused to admit he had a problem?
Probably both because both conditions go hand in hand. I liken addiction to a "party" and a very fun party at that. However, we all know what it looks like at the end of a fun party. Spilled wine on the carpets, vomit in varying places around the house, broken glass shards everywhere, trash can overflowing with smelly food, cigs, more broken bottles. The end was ungodly ugly for Bob Crane, it should have never happened but how can you predict your best friend will kill you?
Bob Crane was in therapy for his sex addiction. His addiction was causing problems with his kids especially the youngest whose mother was Bob’s 2nd wife Sigrid Valdez. The youngest was still a child and his mother would not allow the son to visit his father because of the sex addiction. Bob wanted contact with his kids so he had to overcome the sex addiction which is why he was in therapy. His therapist told him that in order to overcome the addiction he would have to stay away from places that could be sources of temptation and he would have to cut ties with anyone who was participating with him in the behavior he wanted to quit. So he was breaking it off with his BFF and “partner in crime” John Carpenter.
@@cmm2145 that makes sense. There's just no way that John was going to give it up that easily.
Who knows, they were naked alot together, maybe John had feelings for Bob ? Maybe he didn't even know he felt that way until Bob wanted to end their friendship?
@Gregory Schmidt - I’m surprised that you’ve never read about Bob Crane being in therapy for his sex addiction. I’ve read it more than once. I don’t remember where though.
@@erichaynes7502 - Actually, and surprisingly enough, it turns out that John Carpenter did not kill Bob Crane. He was the main suspect. I think he went on trial twice. The first trial was a mistrial. The second trial was an acquittal.
Sometime more recently the case was reopened because a detective found some new evidence. I don’t remember details, but the new evidence proved that Carpenter didn’t do it. It didn’t prove who did though. There are UA-cam videos that cover this. Next suspect may be an actress who was in the dinner theater play with Bob. Something happened and she was mad at him. She’s also the person who found the body. Or it could’ve been one of the women he hooked up with or the jealous spouse or boyfriend of one of them. The murder weapon was never found. Speculation was that it was a tripod, but it has been suggested that maybe it was a claw hammer.
It was sad about the demise of Bob Crane's career after Hogan's Heroes-according to Carol Ford (who wrote the book "Bob Crane" the definitive biography)--he was actually offered the hosting role on Family Feud but recommended Richard Dawson instead--he was even offered the chance to develop a talk show along the lines of Johnny Carson-but also refused that-saying he wanted to ultimately get into movies but anything that was offered didn't appeal to him
seen many musicians in TX die from addiction, it's always heartbreaking
I never understood why people make such a big deal when someone is addict to having sex. They portrait it as something bad, yes he was was being unfaithful but then he divorced...
If your cheating on your wife that is sick. Their is no excuse for that revolting behavior. An addiction can spiral out of control, crane was a good actor but his obsession with sex was just way out of control. I’m a female who could not even imagine that.
Great talent sad end
Very sad indeed.
The second photo when mentioning the Hogan's Heroes affair is of Helga, not Hilda.
Otherwise, great video, such a sad story.
Thank you whoops.
Bob Crane was really good, sorry he is gone, had a tragic death
You are really a great narrator
Thank you.
I agree! Please do more. :)
The National Enquirer (always reliable-ha!) published a story claiming it was a mafia hit and that Bob had promised to do two films, one a pornographic flick, but he backed out of the deal. This would lend credence to the theory that the theater lady and an accomplice were the culprits.
I liked watching Hogan's Heroes in the late sixties and see him in a Walt Disney movie called Super Dad . But I always liked watching Hogan's Heroes it was my favorite TV show. It's a shame whoever murdered him got away with his murder.I liked him very much. RIP Bob Crane😢😢❤.
"In his Scottsdale Arizoner apartment" lol Arizoner gotta love that northeast accent
LOL Accent? I don't hear it!
I pronouncer i rather the same way..
Yes, strange Arizona
Wow his son was born in 1951...so he was 13/14 when hogans heroes first aired!
found yesterday he was IN Hogan's Heroes in 1969
I live in Costa Rica. I am lerning english and your english easy for me was perfect for syudents like me and i undertood you spech . Thanks berry much
Thank you! 😃
you understood the narrator's awful accent?
@@tulllguy 🤔
Cool video. Turn the music down just a tad.
The DNA from John 's rental was retested and came back as two distinct sample, one unknown and one too degraded. The supposed brain matter sample has been lost.
Some say this clears John Carpenter of the murder but all it proves is that one sample isn't his or Bob Cranes, maybe he called a very close friend after the murder and the sample is theirs or maybe it's nothing to do with Bob Crane murder.
As for Richard Dawson not going to Crane's funeral, that just prove's he's not a hypocrite who would show up a funeral of a man he disliked just because the press was there.
Why wouldn't the police just get a summons for Dawson to appear. It happens all the time in capital cases.
You r right, that’s what I read, so we really don’t know who murdered hin
Love your channel facinating
Thank You Carol. I hope you continue to enjow the channel.
last thing he did was dinner theater show going around country, can't believe how much he struggled to get steady work after Hogan
His problem wasn't being a ladies man, it was fatal jealousy of his roommate who hated Bob Crane's Fortune in life a man was jealous of Bob Crane
I disagree; Crane's problem was sexual obsession, and having a "friend " who shared his obsession, but didn't have the money to feed the obsession. Not much different than a drug addiction, cut off the "drugs", and the bread winner dies.
@@allan9603 no the above guy creating was correct-HE killed Crane when Capenter realized his good thing was ending.
@@lamper2 , Carpenter was aquitted.
Had to add another comment... Ever since I saw that Richard Dawson would not testify, and did not show up for Bob's funeral, I found him a petty, jealous POS. I'll never see him differently again. Him not testifying perhaps knowing the truth, than he is just as guilty as the murderer himself.
Didn't know that.
@@deanguando1335 yes, I read that in an updated doc.
@@deanguando1335 I saw that on an updated doc about it, not read, but you can look up the updated vid about it, I think it was from the book " who killed Bob Crane" I guess Richard Dawson and Bob Crane did not like each other, and it was because Richard was so jealous of Bob. And I believe Dawson knew and chose not to tell, so in my eyes he's guilty too, cause I guess Carpenter went to Dawson to get something off his chest after it happened, so I think they are both guilty.
@@jayceew.rabbit9358 after researching this I believe dawson knew about this.
I always knew there was something strange about this man.
Especially family feud.
@@deanguando1335 yeh! The more I found out about him, the more I dislike the man! And he may of gotten away with covering the truth here, but he has to answer to God now!
The Narrator/Producer did a great job ...I just find crane's behaviour abhorrent. Creepy! Ughhhh! I am sure his deviant actions eventually led to his demise
Thank You Lisa. I agree it was what led him to his death. Like all addictions if only he could have gotten help early on.
@@TalesofFameandFate
Yes , it was an addiction, I can empathize with having an addiction but I didnt like the way he apparently exploited women
@@LisaMitchellGD . Ditto Sister!
Great video!
In Miami to visit the final resting place of our next episode... The great one himself, Jackie Gleason. Thank you for your kind words.
Nice channel Ed🙂
Thank You Mike!
@@TalesofFameandFate a job well done, sad story though. I am sorry I listened 😔
PLEASE PRAY FOR HEALING FOR EVERYONE FROM DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND SEX OR GAMBLING THAT LEADS TO KILLING ANYONE THANKS AND PRAY FOR PEACE IN JERUSALEM AND UKRAINE AND THE WHOLE WORLD. IN JESUS CHRIST NAME AMEN ❤️ SHALOM
It would be interesting to solve this after all these years.. dawson didnt go to his funeral wonder why..
The Scottsdale police simply didn't have the expertise to deal with such a high profile murder case (the story goes there had been 1-2 murders there in the previous 10 years)--when they arrived on the scene they essentially didn't restrict the coming/going of people around the crime scene-essentially contaminating it-they didn't take sufficient samples-and DNA analysis was not known or in its very early infancy so simply couldn't be used in this case--the murderer got away with it in large part due to police ineptitude--(although I agree Carpenter was the most likely suspect--interestingly he flew back to Los Angeles and stayed at Richard Dawson's home-and it was known that Dawson and Crane were not on good terms)
anyone remember him on Donna Reed show? played neighbor was a doctor
As someone who suffered from sex addiction for over four years, I can attest to how debilitating it is. I put myself in some strange situations and made very dangerous choices that a "normal" person would not have made. I didn't realize it was an addiction... I thought I was "enlightened" and had simply moved beyond "American Puritanism." My point is that I'm certain Crane crossed paths with numerous men (and women) who felt victimized by him. It's possible that his murderer is someone whose name has never come to light. But with that in mind, I still think that Carpenter is the likeliest suspect (even though recent DNA tests supposedly cleared him). We'll probably never really know the truth.
Sorry to hear about your addiction and hope you're doing better. As far as Carpenter, he almost certainly killed Crane that 1994 book by Graysmith is so incriminating it's not even funny. However, no prosecutor worth their salt would dare prosecute such a case because let's face it with the lifestyle Crane had, every person within 1,000 miles of the crime scene is a possible suspect. Still, Carpenter had "B" type blood and brain matter in his rental car in the world of common sense he's the murderer, just no way to prove it 100% back then because they didn't have DNA testing.
@@erichaynes7502 are blood-tissue samples taken then still viable for DNA testing? would there not be some kind of degradation over time? (even if stored in liquid nitrogen etc)-I'm sure that any defense attorney would argue that in court
You show a picture of Bob with Sigrid Valdés speaking of their affair and wedding but then you show a picture of Cynthia Lynn who was Klink’s Secretary Hilda in the 1st season. Bob had an affair with Cynthia too but that’s not being discussed. Sigrid was Klink’s Secretary Helga from the 2nd season until the end of the show.
I feel sorry for Bob Crane, used to watch reruns of Hogan's Heroes on television. I also wonder if there's going be a video on George Reeves the star of TV's Superman.
He was a man with an addiction. Regardless of what the addiction was he deserved to get help but was robbed of the chance. George Reeves is a very good idea I would have to think about how to present it as not many under 40 would know who he was as I don't think the reruns are even on anywhere.
@@TalesofFameandFate George Reeves would be a wonderful discussion too....a big fan of his.
Bob Crane was also one of the most RECOGNIZABLE looking visual celebs of all time, certainly of TV.
18:27 "LAURA LAUGHLIN". Not to be confused with the modern day, far more disgraced Lori Loughlin.
the problem in my family is the thinking that you have to help ypouself so they wont get involved in my addiction
Who got his video tapes? I need to examine them for "research" purposes
I liked auto focus.
Great channel
Thank You Kent. We have been a little late getting a new video up because of health reasons but will be back up and running very shortly.
@@TalesofFameandFate here's to good health and getting better soon
one rumor I heard was Bob was killed by mob hit, he may have slept with the wrong woman
12:08 That's Hilda 12:11 That's Helga
Like Anthony Perkins in Pyscho typecasting is not good for anyones career.
No it is not. Happened to Bob Denver - Gilligan and so many more.
"...and Bob sang?"
Sounds like the murder may have been done by a Pimp who did not like Bob and had enough! Seems more plausible than his buddy Carpenter wacking him off.
LOL I never heard that theory but its a good one too.
When Bob crane Married his second wife and costar of Hogans Heroes there were 2 blonde different blonde women you showed it was the second one in the second season who he married. If you look closely you will see the differences in both the women.
Ahhh yes nice catch.
Correct, had an affair with the first blonde, then married the second blonde after getting her pregnant
He left door opened or let someone in so he had to of known his killer.
That’s so sad 😢😢😢😭😭😭
V I C T I M !
He had a dockroom in his home.
so, he deserved to die, doof...??
ps you meant Darkroom
So? He liked to take pictures of his playtime, along with his female playmates. He developed his own photos. Nothing wrong with that. Not my cup of tea, but I’m not so judgmental as to condemn someone for following his own path. Judge not, less you be judged.
If there was brain matter in that car why was it not stored for later testing? And from what I saw of the test was there were 2 blood types but only 1 could be shown to not be Bob's so whose blood was the other one? It was obviously a man as a woman absolutely could not lift that heavy tripod hit him with that kind of force! The sad fact is someone no matter what he done murdered him & after all this time no-one will ever know who done it & he will probably never get justice!
It’s not sex addiction it’s called sin.
Richard Dawson had something to do with it...he's creepy as hell
There were many questions about Dawson's actions and attitude after Crane's death.
Tales of Fame and Fate I agree....they both seemed to have had an addiction to pornography
He was a very strange man. On Family Feud, I always thought his constantly kissing the women was creepy and disgusting.
Could have been that Dawson felt guilty being that he introduced Carpenter to Crane in the first place.
I agree
12:10 is Cynthia Lynn who played Helga (Klink's secretary in season 1 someone who Crane also had an affair with) it's not Sigrid Valdis
It was the headless Horseman who killed IckyBobCrane!!!!
LOL
Addiction isn't a bad deal, for some of the addiction. GOD should be an addiction. Love is a good addiction. Peace a plus for addiction. 11-25-2021
Carpenter got away with murder due to police incompetence.
Are you doing a Rod Serling impersonation?
😁😁
No Rod Serling did an Ed Doyle impression LOL.
Lol
Me And Bob crane Have the Same Birthday
Need stream.
The photo at 12: 11 is not Sigrid Valdis--but Cynthia Lynn-who was Colonel Klink's secretary in Season 1 of Hogan's Heroes--in fact she also had an affair with Bob Crane and left the show to try and salvage her marriage when the affair was discovered by her husband
Cynthia’s husband found out about her affair with Bob and gave her an ultimatum. Either quit the show at the end of the first season or he would divorce her. She quit the show and about a year or so later he divorced her anyway.
I liked Bob Crane. I think he had a serious sex addiction. Not just conceited and arrogance. For some, it’s a real illness.
Tiger woods???? Bob Crane and Bill Cosby? All famous! Harvey Weinstein?????? Hollywood! Marilyn Monroe???? A pattern begins to emerge??????
Melody you are sooo right.
Richard Dawson was his best man
Richard Dawson was somehow involved, ?
Bob Crane was clearly a good-hearted and loving human being -- these attributes shone through. His addiction problem was an unfortunate affliction, very sad.
Seems though, that many well-known people have that affliction, especially Democrat politicians that fund payments to gag subjects of their party members' escapades. Then of course we have wild Bill Clinton, Weiner, JFK, and many others.
Very nicely said. Thank you.
@@TalesofFameandFate All the best to you.
2:30
He did it. Who is had a motive?
Everyone knows he did it. The police botched the case.
Jesus Christ saves from sin.
Romans 3: 23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Hebrews 9: 27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Isaiah 64: 6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Revelation 21: 8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Romans 5: 8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
John 3: 16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 14: 6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Romans 10: 9-10.
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Jesus said John 5: 24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
1John 5: 10-13
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
Ephesians 2: 8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 8: 1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 15: 3-4
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
2 Corinthians 5: 21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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OJ killed him, duh.
lol
The sexual prudishness and judgmentalism of this presenter is just too much to watch.
It wasn’t so bad. He’s talking about addiction more than sex. It doesn’t matter what the addiction is.
@@mercoid you're crazy
Life is Shit!!
Okay the cats out the Bag Freddie Cougar Killed him. GREAT VIDEO MORE MORE MORE!!!! THANK YOU!!!
LOL
His death was fate . Look at his zodiac , Sun in cancer , moon in taurus, ascendent in gemini.
If you understand astrology you'd understand his fate.
Explain,
@@lbl9066 your astrological chart determines your fate.
@ShayQueen make wise decisions.