Natural Gas Generator Hook Up People Should Stop!!!

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  • Опубліковано 21 січ 2023
  • In this video I show a example of a bad DIY mod people are still doing today that is extremely dangerous. This could severely harm you and your neighbors if you are not paying attention or don’t know what you are doing. Please use the proper items when messing with propane and NG. Use yellow gas tape or pipe dope as well as a regulator when dealing with NG or LPG. #Dangerous #generator #diy #stop
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  • @jamesalles139
    @jamesalles139 Рік тому +173

    It is more than a regulator.
    It is a *safety valve* that is held open by the slight vacuum being pulled by the carburetor while the engine is running.
    The pressure differential is why the diaphragm is so large.
    But you are absolutely correct, the device is needed - even for connection to a 20-pound propane tank!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +17

      Yup by the correct stuff. 👍🏼

    • @BryanTorok
      @BryanTorok Рік тому +5

      Thank you for the explanation. I was wondering how a regulator would solve the problem. All a regulator would do is reduce the pressure. It would not stop the flow. So, how does this type of regulator control the flow of gas based on the load on the generator?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +7

      The vacuum of the engine will open the diaphragm as needed. The load control block up top will control the mixture which you need to pre adjust. Once set then good to go.

    • @cwilks5592
      @cwilks5592 Рік тому +3

      So my generator that is manufactured to be dual fuel isn't safe? And if it is can that same hose with attached regulator be also used on the natural gas line. I don't see the difference between a natural gas supply and a propane supply. My generator doesn't leak propane when it's not running.
      Thanks

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +5

      Your unit is fine and has a shut off built with in the unit.
      I have a video coming out soon showing what is and isn’t compatible for Ng

  • @guyztruth4593
    @guyztruth4593 Рік тому +534

    I have never seen or heard of anyone doing this, worst yet you probably gave people some ideas lol Still enjoy your videos!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +41

      Maybe but hopefully not. You can’t stop stupid. But there are videos showing how to do this thinking it’s a good idea.

    • @shanew7361
      @shanew7361 Рік тому +2

      Overeducated idiots are everywhere unfortunately.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +24

      They are among us…😂

    • @coreybabcock2023
      @coreybabcock2023 Рік тому +5

      @@johnnysweekends so much more so than 10 years ago

    • @gilbrook
      @gilbrook Рік тому +7

      @@johnnysweekends Thanx for this public service posting! Education always “trumps” ignorance.

  • @Jon_Flys_RC
    @Jon_Flys_RC Рік тому +28

    If you want a propane or dual fuel generator, get that kind of generator. All generators have a governor to maintain frequency in response to load, the fuel supply should never be throttled to the engine.

  • @dunckeroo1987
    @dunckeroo1987 Рік тому +42

    I believe the proper conversion kit comes with a negative pressure regulator : Vacuum has to be present in intake manifold for gas to flow. And someone also mentioned an electric cut-off solenoid for fail-safe redundancy. It would be simple if you have a quick connect for your barbecue, but if your power has failed you might want to use your barbecue if your electric oven has no juice.

  • @ysidroavila6454
    @ysidroavila6454 Рік тому +15

    I have seen this all over recently with the power outages and lack of supplies for people to run their generators. This should be shared widely. I appreciate you sharing this video

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +3

      Thank you. Tell people to buy a appropriate setup. I’ll have a video out soon showing what could work with a existing dual fuel unit. Probably sunday

    • @ysidroavila6454
      @ysidroavila6454 Рік тому +1

      I will definitely share and tell them. I used to be a fire brigadier at an oil refinery, specifically a gas plant with 300psi natural gas and 400 psi propane lines. A vapor cloud is bad news and can create a vapor explosion from a simple spark from an non intrinsically safe device.

  • @tracyjohnson737
    @tracyjohnson737 Рік тому +7

    Holy smokes! Good thing you posted this. Most people have no idea what you're doing or how dangerous it is. You probably saved some lives..thanks for posting this video

  • @michael_house
    @michael_house Рік тому +12

    Man - I didn't have the mental capacity to even realize I could use my propane generator with natural gas. Thanks for the video. I'll go ahead and binge watch the rest of your videos now. Appreciate it!

  • @slidewaze
    @slidewaze Рік тому +11

    Thanks for the link to the gas detector. Just used the link and got mine for $17. Nice find. I've been working around propane lately for work so this is a nice, simple tool to have on board. Thanks again. And REALLY? People do this NG hack? Scary!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +5

      Dude great buy on the pen!! I thought $23 ish was the cheapest but who knows lol.
      And yes there are a couple UA-cam video showing how to do just that. And have even had people comment which I delete those.

  • @Capt-Intrepid
    @Capt-Intrepid День тому +2

    “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin

  • @fryloc359
    @fryloc359 Рік тому +6

    Its a good video, other than making it sound like propane and natural gas are interchangeable.

  • @dipstick5869
    @dipstick5869 Рік тому +7

    Very important safety information Johnny, Thank You!🙂

  • @miekbell162
    @miekbell162 Рік тому +1

    thank you so much ive been doing that for years and never new it was doing that ur truly a hero

  • @tristanschaper281
    @tristanschaper281 Рік тому +50

    VERY, VERY good advice! You are totally correct. On a positive note, all of these dual fuel Genmax gens are really neat. They seem to be very innovative and ahead of the market with their dual fuel, 120/240 on larger units, and other great features. They have totally filled a gap in the market that nobody else has. I’m wondering what else they have planned for future units.

    • @rob21
      @rob21 Рік тому +2

      I've read some bad reviews regarding the construction quality of Genmax gens. I hope they're wrong because this particular model is very interesting!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      They are definitely filling gaps for sure. And being a new company customer service takes a while to get going.
      But they do better then most off brands at the moment. If not Honda or Yamaha then champion then Genmax.
      And stay tuned for updates on new models..😀😉

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      I have as well but that goes for every manufacturer. Also owner has to be considered. So after a while I have to toss some reviews and see which are legit from several different resources of reviews.
      I hope they continue to bring different models and make sure quality goes up.
      Or they will dissolve slowly.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +2

      Exactly, just do it right. 👍🏼

    • @REALBanannaman
      @REALBanannaman Рік тому

      Genmax is just a brand, they don't make them.

  • @peterking2794
    @peterking2794 Рік тому +106

    This would be highly illegal in the UK. Nobody is allowed to do any work on or make any modifications to a gas service unless they are trained and registered 'Gas-safe' engineers

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +16

      Yea all countries are different.

    • @daveonezero6258
      @daveonezero6258 Рік тому +49

      Yeah well this is America we have some more freedom for a lot of reasons. Many people have their own tanks on their land and no one else owns or controls it.

    • @max7768
      @max7768 Рік тому +11

      @@daveonezero6258 But I'm sure it's taxed one way or another

    • @gm08351
      @gm08351 Рік тому

      lol

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +15

      You still wanna use the proper equipment though…👍🏼

  • @42luke93
    @42luke93 Рік тому +3

    This is brilliant! Usually gas works during outages since it’s underground the pipes. Never knew such a generator existed.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      This is what not to do..!!! Please don’t!

    • @42luke93
      @42luke93 Рік тому +2

      @@johnnysweekends I mean I didn't know Natural Gas generators exist. Do it properly with that $100 regulator piece and it is a good idea right?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +2

      Yes that is the correct way and making sure your feed from the gas is legal.
      I have installed a few kits not. Gas generators turning them to tri fuel units

  • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
    @jed-henrywitkowski6470 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! I don't have this type of genny, however I am sure this advice shall be useful later on.

  • @rupe53
    @rupe53 Рік тому +10

    The internal regulator some are talking about here is not a regulator at all. It's a load block, and that's how you adjust the mixture difference between NG and propane, plus fine tuning for load variations and sometimes BTU availability of the fuel itself. (will vary by region) It's got a set screw and a lock nut... and once set you leave it alone. Regulators all have a diaphragm inside and most UL approved gaseous sets also have a gas solenoid as an extra safety feature. Matter of fact, I believe UL approval requires both the solenoid and a demand regulator. If you are not set up properly and have an issue your insurance company might have a field day!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +2

      You are correct, a load block it’s for adjusting and this century unit is a all in one. A shut off, a regulator that’s manually adjusted with the adjustment nut so you can run NG or LPG.
      Then from there it depends what you are trying to run will determine other things like line size and more.

  • @MJF40
    @MJF40 Рік тому +4

    Wow ! I know some people are clueless, but this is crazy on another level. 😮

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      It is, yet people still do it. Stupid!

    • @ericschepers9317
      @ericschepers9317 Рік тому

      ​@@johnnysweekends mhm. There should ever be a valve even on the output of the meter...

  • @mumrah73
    @mumrah73 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, first video I actually watched that is undoing this internet hack that is dangerous.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      You’re welcome and yes the other couple vid’s should be taken down.
      👍🏼

  • @cyrilharris
    @cyrilharris 11 днів тому +1

    Thanks well presented and safety is most important

  • @night_bot3798
    @night_bot3798 Рік тому +6

    Thanks for the great idea! I’m gonna be the guy who does the $3 dollar install with used fittings out of the miscellaneous fittings bucket in my shop

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      Lol gezzz I hope not. You would be as bad as the video I found this from lol

  • @danglyballs931
    @danglyballs931 Рік тому

    Never seen this done gona give it a try thanks 👍

  • @alanmolox2095
    @alanmolox2095 Рік тому +11

    Kudos to you for this video. I know these well-made videos take a LOT of time, you sacrificed your time and maybe saved a whole lot of lives for this, thank you!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, it’s just to make people aware of a couple bad videos 😀👍🏼

  • @rob21
    @rob21 Рік тому +3

    I don't know anyone that does what you specify in this video. No NG or tri-fuel conversion kit companies recommend this either. But it's good you posted this for people who might.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +2

      Well there are a couple UA-cam videos going around showing people exactly this. Hence why I made the video…! Very dangerous

  • @gregoriagregg7411
    @gregoriagregg7411 Рік тому +1

    Good safety video regardless of how it was set up. It gets folks to think before they do. Good job.

  • @100vg
    @100vg Рік тому +1

    Thanks! I would have installed a regulator anyway, to adjust and set flow for correct 3600 rpm and an accurate 120 VAC at 60 Hz precisely or very close, but now I know why it is necessary.

  • @Native_love
    @Native_love Рік тому +34

    Unrelated story time: My friend is a fire Chief who told me once of a large fire that they put out in a shed. They found out afterwards that a huge (250-500lbs???) filled propane tank was in the shack and was just about to blow up when they started spraying it with warer point blank. The owner didn't tell them that tank was in there!They got lucky!

    • @JackThelRipper
      @JackThelRipper Рік тому +3

      Those tanks won’t normally blow, they will BLEVE from a valve, look it up neat stuff…

    • @American-Motors-Corporation
      @American-Motors-Corporation Рік тому +3

      @@JackThelRipper lol bliung off gas during a fire through the "relief valve would have been bad followed by big boom!
      Look it up it's really neat stuff!

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley Рік тому +10

      I was a firefighter for years, you'll know it if a propane tank is about to rupture. The safety blow off valve will look like a huge blow torch blowing a stream of fire 15 to 30 feet long. They don't blow up, they split from the internal gas pressure due to the heat.

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley Рік тому +1

      @@American-Motors-Corporation not necessarily. Depends on how hot the fire got the tank. They don't blow up, they rupture from the liquid turning into a vapor inside the tank creating extreme pressure. The relief valve will handle most house fire temperatures without letting the tank rupture.

    • @American-Motors-Corporation
      @American-Motors-Corporation Рік тому +2

      @@Bryan-Hensley lol right, fire in building all around the tank, then being ejected from tank via the "relief valve" is the gas, you at the very least have a huge blow torch.
      Yes ot most likely would explode!

  • @Gruntled2001
    @Gruntled2001 Рік тому +4

    And while you’re at it, please do not backfeed your dryer outlet from your generator 😊

  • @golf-n-guns
    @golf-n-guns Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the pen link.

  • @kennethwallace4338
    @kennethwallace4338 Рік тому +3

    Almost thought this was going be about people using this on the inlet feed ( bootleg). Been in a house once where someone did that to run their gas pipe to pipe no meter, only gas appliance still working after that was their Dearborn heater, pressure tore the other controls up. Pretty sure something like that would destroy one of those generators straight piped.
    Excellent video.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +2

      If not enough gas it couldn’t definitely be to lean and slowly burn the engine down. To much will cause a rich condition and probably shut it off then letting the gas continue to flow since people don’t want to pay for the correct set up

  • @kevinlauzon7665
    @kevinlauzon7665 Рік тому +17

    Great video. I never knew anyone was doing this and NOT using a regulator. Wow! Thanks for sharing.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      Yup, you can find the those videos on this same platform. 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @AnonymousGameWarden
      @AnonymousGameWarden Рік тому +1

      A lot of people are doing this. And guess why it works... when the generator turns off, the entire house loses power. That's a better warning than any regulator will ever give you.

  • @jacksonrsr5046
    @jacksonrsr5046 Рік тому +1

    THANKS

  • @john-marcedwards9221
    @john-marcedwards9221 Рік тому +1

    My mind is literally blown right now
    In a current estimated week long power outage in Oklahoma. I was evening of having a gas line installed in my backyard but had no idea this was even a thing!!
    New sub here!!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      Oh yea, even worse a UA-camr promoting it. Just stick a open line in your generator and hope for the best 🙄

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner6633 Рік тому +15

    You need a proportional demand regulator. The ones used for propane powered forklifts are nice and come with several safety features too.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +3

      Yesss!! Correct, verses other videos showing a straight hose! 🙄

  • @jregamey
    @jregamey Рік тому +3

    You could add a 12v valve so when gen shuts off the valve shuts too....

  • @HomeTech_Pro
    @HomeTech_Pro 16 днів тому +1

    Very informative !

  • @mikeconley8111
    @mikeconley8111 Рік тому +2

    A guy up the street from was doing this. One night sounded like a bomb going off. He lost his garage, 2 cars, a truck, and part of his roof. He was lucky.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      And that’s why I’m here lol.
      Do it right people!! 😂👍🏼

  • @johnnysweekends
    @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +65

    Please If you see people doing this have them stop. The life you save could be your own…👍🏼
    A proper Kit can make this possible to run NG with your gas generator. This will include a regulator and proper demand/load regulator as well. Never Run a straight hose!!
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    • @carmichaelmoritz8662
      @carmichaelmoritz8662 Рік тому +5

      That regulator you show in the video must be magic lol. most regulators I ever seen only regulate the flow , they do not stop the flow completely no matter what. So even with a regulator when the motor would stop the flow would still continue.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +2

      Yes a correct regulator like the one shown has a stop in it. Pressure closes it and vacuum from the engine opens it.
      Then the load block up top acts as a fuel screw.

    • @carmichaelmoritz8662
      @carmichaelmoritz8662 Рік тому +2

      @@johnnysweekends 👍🤟👌

    • @matthewgibbs6886
      @matthewgibbs6886 Рік тому +2

      if i see someone doing this im going to back away and go get marshmallows

    • @carmichaelmoritz8662
      @carmichaelmoritz8662 Рік тому +2

      @@matthewgibbs6886 before doing that could you please advise them that what they are doing will void their house insurance if they have any insurance at all.

  • @LFTRnow
    @LFTRnow Рік тому +26

    When I first saw this I thought it was a good idea for a backup generator. The explanation is to the point and clear. Nice to have a 3-minute video to show exactly what people do, why not to do it, how it goes wrong, and how (comparatively) cheap it is to fix with a regulator. Very well done! About the only thing I might add (maybe a part 2 vid) show the right way with the regulator. I wouldn't have thought a regulator would prevent leaks, but I'm guessing it has some kind of auto shutoff somehow?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +12

      I should probably do another… showing what’s needed

    • @Krankie_V
      @Krankie_V Рік тому +6

      That regular is sometimes called a "demand regulator" and it outputs gas based on engine vacuum. So if the engine stops, it produces no vacuum, and the regulator stops the flow. 👍

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      Correct..!👍🏼😀

  • @24vignettes94
    @24vignettes94 Рік тому +1

    Hadn't seen one of your videos in a while. Good to see you're still making them.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      Awesome thanks for stopping back by and hope all is well. And yup still here.
      😀👍🏼

  • @davidz1681
    @davidz1681 Рік тому +1

    Great video. I was planning on buying a gas generator and you answered a lot of questions.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      I have another showing which dual fuel units are able to run tri fuel and other that will be strictly dual.

    • @davidz1681
      @davidz1681 Рік тому +1

      @@johnnysweekends thanks...I'll look for it. Much appreciated!

  • @trxtech3010
    @trxtech3010 Рік тому +3

    Good video. I have always wonder that too that if the generator stalls then ghe gass just keeps flowing. Some people lack common sense.

  • @microdesigns2000
    @microdesigns2000 Рік тому +6

    The other day while driving from our home in Minnesota to Illinois, my wife and I were discussing generators for the house. I had an idea to connect our small generator to natural gas and use a small transfer switch to move the furnace circuit to the generator. Electrically this is pretty easy for me (I do controls for a living). I had not thought through the gas circuit and how to keep it safe. Well a couple of days later, lo and behold, what comes up in my feed but this video. Google is always listening to everything we are saying.
    Now, about this video; A regulator will make the operation of the generator stable under variable load. But how will the regulator shut off the gas supply if the generator fails?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      The regulator just puts out correct pressure but a regulator with stop pin and load adjustment does it all.
      When vacuum is stopped diaphragm closes and pin closes off from pipe pressure. When gen fires vacuum opens up or pulls open diaphragm and allows gas to flow and the load or demand regulator controls amount of flow per what the gen needs based on rpm.
      The correct components will let you switch any gas gen or even some dual fuel models which I will have a video out in a few days on that.

    • @trendinvestor2893
      @trendinvestor2893 Рік тому +1

      @@johnnysweekends
      I want to convert my 8000 watt Generac gas generator to propane. Do you know the best place to get a conversion kit? Would I need to go directly to Generac?

    • @REALBanannaman
      @REALBanannaman Рік тому +1

      @@trendinvestor2893 Motor Snorkel makes a generic kit for most generators

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      There are a couple places like US Carburetor is one you can see if they have a kit or check eBay with you generatorname. Several kits fit different models

    • @Teh_Random_Canadian
      @Teh_Random_Canadian Рік тому +1

      Put in a 120v solenoid value. Manually hold it open to start the generator and when it is running it will work like a start stop circuit. Generator fails, solenoid closes.

  • @julianbrelsford
    @julianbrelsford Рік тому +4

    Multiple selfish reasons not to be that guy:
    1.For safety, gas company might cut your gas service temporarily if there's leaked gas around and they find out.
    2. You pay money for the gas you leak out into the air, and it does nothing for you
    3. it sucks to get hurt or killed by natural gas or the fire it could cause

    • @2009dudeman
      @2009dudeman Рік тому +1

      Additionally, around here at least if the gas company sees you doing this, they WILL shut off your service and refuse to start it back up again until the entire thing is properly inspected. They will probably also fine you pretty heavily.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      All depends on your municiple facilities policy. Hence have it inspected.

    • @946towguy2
      @946towguy2 Рік тому +1

      @@johnnysweekends Pulling out PG&E's plug from the test port and hooking up an illegal ball valve will get you shut off for sure.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      Already swapped back…👍🏼 only needed for two vids.
      My NG outlet is plumbed on the opposite side of the house. For a bbq or whatever. And a reconfiguration for something I don’t use is not worth it.

  • @CajunCoding
    @CajunCoding Рік тому +1

    Nice tip on that Gas Pen... I've never seen one of those before, but it's in my Amazon cart now!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, It’s goes everywhere in the Rv! 😀👍🏼

  • @Threedog1963
    @Threedog1963 6 місяців тому +1

    I like that detector. Am shopping out an inverter generator that is dual fuel.. gasoline/propane. The tri-fuel generators don't have the capacity I'd like. So, thanks for this video and the links.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  6 місяців тому

      I’ll be doing a video on this soon. It has gotten very popular and is consistently getting 4.3-4.6 stars..amzn.to/48DmOwx

  • @jeffpiatt3879
    @jeffpiatt3879 Рік тому +3

    Great info! As America's power grid becomes more unstable due to solar and wind, folks need to know that there are still options to run off of natural gas.

    • @Michael-Joseph123
      @Michael-Joseph123 16 днів тому

      The power grid is not becoming unstable because solar and wind, get a clue, most outages are caused by down transmission lines and transformer failures.

  • @mtmadigan82
    @mtmadigan82 Рік тому +5

    This is why I plumbed mine in before the meter. Free gas!

  • @LivingWaterEternal
    @LivingWaterEternal Рік тому +1

    Also, it is illegal by code to tap the gas meter on that tee, city inspectors if around will have a cow tapping the plug tee. Great tip and appreciated the video for being safe!!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      Mine is already switched back with the plug as it’s a 1 min swap. Now after the meter at the T you are supposed to tap in from the back side of the T, which would require a whole redo of that side. I was only making 3 quick videos and I was done. If I need to use NG I can swap back there for emergency or plug into my NG bbq line but that’s around the other wall.
      Remember there are homeless people dumping crap in the river and chemicals and more. Me being on one side of the T or the other in a emergency for power, well let’s say I’m sure some understanding could be had. But check your local codes for proper hook up 👍🏼

  • @CashisKingtrucking
    @CashisKingtrucking Рік тому

    Thank for showing me how to do this 🙏🏼

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      This is not the proper way to do this.you need a proper kit for your unit

  • @gilbertoosuna7467
    @gilbertoosuna7467 Рік тому +1

    This video fit the Do's and Dont's, very informative!.

  • @prestonhanson501
    @prestonhanson501 Рік тому +2

    I really like the duel fuel generators. Gives you options. Options is what you need when things go to hell

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      Exactly, dual fuel always and if ya can tri fuel as well. But once dual fuel the conversion over is easy if you know what you are doing 👍🏼

  • @AS-fm6iw
    @AS-fm6iw Рік тому

    That is a great idea I love it! Thanks

  • @globaldemise
    @globaldemise Рік тому +1

    Thank you! Great PSA

  • @LAMB53087
    @LAMB53087 Рік тому +2

    These are probably the same people that think they have it "all figured out" and use a generator to back-feed into an outlet to power a house. Using a double male cord.

  • @SaabAholic
    @SaabAholic Рік тому +2

    Boy howdy! I love propane and propane accessories! 🤠👍. Good heads up!

  • @unclejamesx9808
    @unclejamesx9808 11 днів тому +1

    Great informative video

  • @ericwilliams952
    @ericwilliams952 Рік тому +1

    Never seen anybody hooking up like that either. Nice gas test pin have one order. Thank you.

  • @Glocktard
    @Glocktard Рік тому +1

    I installed a Hutchmountain kit on my Honda EU2200i.
    It works well on propane and I even ordered the natural gas quick connect fitting.
    Their kit includes a demand regulator too.
    All the firings seem of the highest quality, I’ve run the generator for hours now and all is good.
    Only down fall is it takes more time to hook up and a few more pulls to get it to start.

  • @luisestebanr6311
    @luisestebanr6311 Рік тому

    Great advise!

  • @Atlanticsoutheasthillbilly
    @Atlanticsoutheasthillbilly Рік тому +1

    You need a regulator if incoming pressure is high pressure(2 psi) if not and at low pressure (.5ish psi) if the genny can be used on ng.

  • @normanbyler8556
    @normanbyler8556 Рік тому

    I have this same Generator getting ready to hookup to LPG, I didn't know this so I will order a Regulator.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      It doesn’t need one for lpg only NG. It already comes with the correct set up for Lpg

  • @nevadaxelizabeth
    @nevadaxelizabeth Рік тому +1

    this video popped up on my feed and to this day i had no idea a gas generator existed. it makes sense because NG and Propane are fuels but never crossed my mind such thing existed, and to think about it...its even better than having a gasoline one because the gasoline goes bad on storage but gas gets supplied to your house. i added one to my list of things i need to buy just in case.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      Of buying a generator but a dual fuel unit. When the carb has issues more then likely the propane will still work no problem

  • @lifentimes
    @lifentimes 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow !! Great Video, !!!

  • @Dat_Sun
    @Dat_Sun Рік тому +1

    My Cummins 12kw auto switching system has a leaky gas solenoid. Aside from a impressive backfire on startup it has never been a problem. It's on the list of things to fix.

  • @4runner4ever83
    @4runner4ever83 Рік тому +1

    Good info.

  • @ocsrc
    @ocsrc Рік тому +1

    I have the regulator off the propane tanks and then a separate regulator on the generator that regulates the flow in and shuts down the flow in the event the engine stops.
    That's what you need both of those

  • @jhonnyblossom3034
    @jhonnyblossom3034 Рік тому +2

    Exelent information!!👍👍👍👍

  • @sfranklin9073
    @sfranklin9073 Рік тому +1

    Do not use propane on natural gas or vise versa. The proper orifices along with the proper regulator is a must. Both need to be utilized with the correct water column pressure designed for the appliance, whatever that appliance is. Go by manufacturer specs. Living for a new day.

  • @scotts4437
    @scotts4437 9 днів тому

    Also propane and natural gas regulators regulate at different pressures. Installer must make sure the regulator is set to correct setting for either fuel. Orifice sizes are different for propane and natural gas.

  • @Nonplused
    @Nonplused Рік тому +2

    My tri-fuel conversion from US Carburetor came with a big regulator like the one you show so I think I am good. To run it I end up with two regulators, one on the tank like a bbq would have, and then the big one which I assume is low pressure and regulates the fuel to match demand on the generator itself. If I were to hook it to my natural gas, I don't need the tank regulator obviously but would still have the big one on the generator. With this system I don't need to adjust the fuel to match the load it runs wide open and the regulator maintains the correct fuel/air ratio. The fuel also gets inserted into the throttle body, not the air box. There is an insert between the carburetor and the intake which provides the correct Venturi effect.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      Correct you have done it right and have the correct kit. I have installed a couple kits now. Well 3. But yes no regulator as that kit acts as the regulator and demand or load regulator. And that kit was originally from US carb…👍🏼

  • @ericschepers9317
    @ericschepers9317 Рік тому

    It's also a small amount of pressure in that ng line...7 to 14w.c. aka 1/4 to 1/8th psi

  • @bigal7561
    @bigal7561 Рік тому +1

    Now that you've forgiven me I want to ask a question. How do these pass insurance inspections? I know those inspections are never done, even here, but in the event that there was a fire, or worse yet a death, the insurance would not cover the loss because of the unsafe modification. With the cost being a minimum and the risk being very high, what is the biggest reason for this unsafe mod? I'm a dyi'er but here, if you tie into a meter, it has to have a lisenced plumber do the work, plus, with the age of that meter, it has a meter reader that would have to shut off the service.
    I think it's great that you pointed out this. I'm going to sub and watch your vids. Thanks

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      You would need it inspected by PG&E to make sure the fitting is correct and leaks. That’s about it. This video would be a lot different if I went to my external gas line for my bbq. But that means my my electrical cord would be very long. But most people would not think its a problem because that line is far game. But since I’m next to a meter it seems all must be inspected and certified.
      Rules change change by county and even state. So check with you local municipal facilities to see what you are allowed to do. I have already converted this back after making a couple videos I needed to make. It takes about 45 seconds to swap this out from the original stock plug to the extension and valve I had on.

  • @jackjumperx4441
    @jackjumperx4441 Рік тому +1

    There are replacement carburetors with the regulator for most gas engines

  • @techlord5573
    @techlord5573 Рік тому +2

    I have gas and did not know you can do that if I lost power lol.

  • @chriswarren5986
    @chriswarren5986 Рік тому +1

    When it comes to gas or electricity hire a pro always

  • @evictioncarpentry2628
    @evictioncarpentry2628 Рік тому +2

    The only thing you need to do is put a conversion kit on it which has a different size jet.
    Nothing wrong with it at all, if you do it as above and ditch the ball valve as a regulator.
    Its obviously not "approved" but it works.

  • @j-davis7290
    @j-davis7290 Рік тому +2

    As a natural gas utility locator... please do not tap into your natural gas service for a stupid generator, I've seen too many houses explode because of stupid shit like this

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      And yet people do it …. No load regulator no nothing.

  • @clydeusa6596
    @clydeusa6596 Рік тому +1

    Hope everyone watches this. People do stupid things and hurt themselves and others. Good video.

  • @CarveLife
    @CarveLife 3 дні тому +2

    I prefer to put my quick connection before the meter.

  • @neilbrookins8428
    @neilbrookins8428 Рік тому

    Hopefully the future demonstration of the correct way will include a drip leg too.

  • @kevinriley7834
    @kevinriley7834 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi Johnny, thanks for all the info. You bring good insight in your videos. I may be shopping for a dual fuel or propane portable generator. Our off grid camp has a Harbor Freight knockoff, Yamaha, and ALP. The knockoff and Yamaha have after market regulator conversions to propane. They have seen better days. The Yamaha dealer won't touch the conversion and only agree to set it back to gas. Currently, we setup a new ALP propane unit which is low wattage. What's your view of GENMAX and Champion dual fuel ? Looking at something under 3K watt. I'm also considering taking the ALP and buying another with parallel kit. I have plenty of Bluetti and LifePO so this addition is more contingency and for recharging. Thanks again.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  10 місяців тому

      Check out this one www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHXLT5D9/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_dl_94ZN26EWN2M9J1KQ2JPB?linkCode=ml2&tag=johnny5dahlbe-20

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  10 місяців тому

      I like the littler alps but just low output and at max they are running at max so I dont know how long they can sustain that. But super fuel efficient. The genmax is a good option or even the pulsar 4000 DF would be a good one to look at with its competitive price i linked it…check it out

  • @jptrade8575
    @jptrade8575 9 днів тому

    Yes there are people who will do this. One lives three houses down from me. I told him it's a bad ideal. And he said it works fine.

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD Рік тому +1

    Propane and natural gas. Each fuel requires a different size orifice to work correctly for the carburetor. Same goes for duel fuel heaters and hot water heaters, stoves as well.

  • @1972challenger
    @1972challenger Рік тому +1

    I have a 110v NC solenoid connected to mine and plugged into the 110 outlet on generator so if it stalls the gas line closes.

  • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648

    Natural gas and propane differ in characteristics, and even short of other dangers, this could harm your propane powered generator. There are whole house generators that are designed to be plumbed into natural gas, and these are fine.

  • @kordta
    @kordta Рік тому +1

    It's called electric gas valve that cuts the gas flow when generator stops. It can be supplied by the generator outlet voltage circuit. A bypass can be applied just for starting with a spring valve for safety reasons.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      They also have a positive stop type. Positive pressure closed it. And vacuum opens it. That’s the kit you see in the video. Easy

  • @vinceparker2888
    @vinceparker2888 Рік тому +1

    That's why you buy the propane version and change out the orifice for natural gas and keep all the safety features

  • @Fordgroup00
    @Fordgroup00 Рік тому +1

    That makes total sense. Didn’t realize this was an option hmmm
    Do you have a video on how to do this properly?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      Yup just finishing it now and will be out in probably a week. This will let people know if there dual fuel unit is compatible to run natural gas or not. 👍🏼

    • @Fordgroup00
      @Fordgroup00 Рік тому +1

      @@johnnysweekends
      Right on

  • @tcidave
    @tcidave Рік тому

    This guy is the reason we need to take the warning labels off everything and let thing sort themselves out

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      If warning labels were off everything good chance you and I would be dead lol.

  • @Skunked68
    @Skunked68 Рік тому +2

    Hello. I’ve never been sure what all a “regulator” does. At prior place, had propane furnace, heater in garage and a fireplace, basically there were regulators everywhere. I surmise those regulated the gas pressure to a rather constant level as time and gas level in tank and temperatures vary. So, if one is installed on a generator and generator stops, the regulator ALSO automatically shuts off gas flow ?? If you wish to give tutorial on regulators, I’d certainly enjoy learning more on that topic. Will budget in a DC inverter sometime before much longer, just for the necessary few things as emergency backup. Maybe I’ll just stick with propane and try to find bigger than 15 lb tanks. 20 maybe is around somewhere. We are not RV-ers to know more on propane tank sizes, refilling, etc. I do know where to just swap out the gas grill sized tanks, as is common. Realistically right here, the amount of time power is off is very little, swapping out 15 lb sized tanks for a day or two while off isn’t a terribly big hassle. 8+ hours power off is pretty rare. Just several 15 lb tanks should handle 99% of the time needed. But car gas, nope, no more, did that 20 years country life. Hassle. It’s kind of fun hearing a generator hum away when needed, tho, and enjoy the few things on truly necessary. I also will prioritize an enclosed unit for quiet as it runs in backyard. Not only for the one neighbor, but no sense advertising further away for a potential thief to get an idea of easy pickings.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      I could go over some basics on regulators and dual fuel generators soon.
      👍🏼

  • @dankdreamz
    @dankdreamz Рік тому +1

    What a great suggestion from UA-cam's algorithm. Hopefully it promotes it two more people

  • @vJofsy
    @vJofsy Рік тому +1

    As a distribution side Natural gas worker the best way to test for natural gas leaks not only the monitor/sensit but some good old fashioned soapy water in a spray bottle will find any leak

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      I always have a bottle hangin on the ready. Haven’t used it lately with the new pen. It’s cool!

  • @946towguy2
    @946towguy2 Рік тому +1

    It is a HUGE code violation for a customer to connect to the test port of the outlet tee. The customer connections must only be connected to the back side of that tee, such as replacing that bronze 90 by the wall with a tee.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому +1

      Mine is already replaced with the original plug after making a couple videos that day. Mainly to show people this bad diy that is going around.
      I would have gone on the back side but I would have had to reconfigure the whole thing. Verses the 45 second switch.

  • @jdmtechllc6589
    @jdmtechllc6589 Рік тому +1

    Its called an on demand regulator, there is a company i saw online a while back called US carburetion, I’m not sure if they are still around but they made multi fuel kits for this purpose and they seemed reasonably priced

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  Рік тому

      Correct !! Good job, yes they still make kits and that would be the safe way to convert these units if compatible. There is also another company as well but I forget the name.
      I have installed a few as well..👍🏼

  • @axjason
    @axjason Рік тому +1

    Yeah, cause people are always looking to cut corners thinking they know what they’re doing

  • @ZeroBlackfire
    @ZeroBlackfire Рік тому +1

    When I say the initial set up i just said "Aww come-on, no flashback arrestor at the minimum?"

  • @billmcmeekin7909
    @billmcmeekin7909 Рік тому +1

    A ball valve regulator. What could go wrong, lol. Remember it's only an explosive fuel that will only lift houses of their basements. Tip = Soapy water dribbled over connections will determine leaks by visible bubbles, for leak check.

  • @medwardl
    @medwardl Рік тому +1

    I always will buy a conversion kit to run it on NG

  • @johnbelwell2461
    @johnbelwell2461 Рік тому +1

    You can get a dual fuel carburetor for these dirt cheap so if you plan on doing it a lot it doesn't worth the hassle and not the danger, as the engine will work as it should. This works just fine if you are in a real emergency and have it outdoors but you can't regulate the fuel in real time so varrying the load can lead to release unburnt gas and if it backfires it can cause an explosion, the problem is that when you do this it needs supervising and people are turning on things and like to forget about them, just like if a plain and safe propane heater is left out of sight if for whatever reason it loses the flame and has propane filling the room it can lead to an explosion.