The Forgotten, Overlooked NES RPG - StarTropics 2
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Today is March 1st, 1994! New episode every single Friday!
Welcome to Now in the 90s, where we rewind the clock exactly 30 years ago to see what new video games had just released! This week we had Zoda's Revenge: StarTropics II, The Peace Keepers and Wolfenstein 3D!
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I laughed harder at "UPDATE. PAWS ARE BACK" than I should have.
Honestly, i just imagine Dylan having done most of this, then he saw the cheetos at the store when he was shopping so he made the bit lol
i cheered. softer cheeto products are appreciated, the regular kind are a bit too rocky. corn is a rough grain, yknow? it comes right out the other end of you undamaged.
265 days until Donkey Kong Country...
I wasn't expecting to learn so much about cheese today.
The old-school Cheetos Paws were significantly thicker than the new version used in the video. The old ones legit looked like the ones in the game.
I was going to say, I remembered them looking different as a kid!
Few things depress me more than beloved food items being brought back, only to not be as good.
Snapple Elements comes to mind. The original run was amazing but the new ones are watery, and come in tiny-ass bottles, and there's only 4 flavors. There were like 20+ flavors in their prime, and they were all winners.
@@HylianFox3Yay for corporations always trying to save a buck so they "alter" the recipe, they do it enough times and the product is a shallow resemblance of what it used to be.
@@HylianFox3 Like the aforementioned Planter's Cheez Balls. They suck now, gross.
I thought it was just me.
European here, and I remember CJ's Elephant Antics! It's a really, really good C64 game - probably one of the best on the system in fact. It's a four-level platformer where you play an elephant who shoots peanuts (aaaah!) and bombs (eeeeeek!) to make his way back home through France, Switzerland, Egypt, and Africa. You got to fight through the difficult levels before facing the hunchback of Notre Dame in Notre Dame, the abominable snowman (apparently Swiss for some reason), the Pharoah, and of course - three giant volcanoes! (That last was more of a timed survival challenge.) There were definitely moments where it felt a little unfair, especially in the Egyptian level, but it was a very well-made platformer with a legit soundtrack.
Before I watch this, Jared if you actually got even a shred of joy out of the first Startropics it's worth checking out the second one.
What he got was a LOT of strategy guides...
@@Leron... Yeah I know
This must mean that Mega Man 6 is next week. I remember the ad that ran in 1994 about how you can get the Model 2 NES for $50 and they hyped up Zoda's Revenge and Mega Man 6. Loved Mega Man 6. It was the first Mega Man game I ever beat.
Yuuuuup. Mega Man VI is definitely next week. Ironically, I got V on my birthday that year (later in the month) because I hadn’t played it and it “didn’t make sense” to get VI before I played V. Ended up renting VI to play through it.
Ditto. Mega Man 6 is the first I beat too. Zoda though… what kind of stupid name is that??
Easily my favorite NES Megaman game
Zoda is also one of the villain racers in F-Zero. Drives the Death Anchor. Very much not the same Zoda, lmao
ay jerb you gotta play Zoda's revenge DOO IT COMPLETE THE DUOLOGY
Zoda's Revenge, YES! This game was my childhood. Would stay up until like 5am just playing it. Completed it multiple times. I miss the game, tbh.
Finally. Another cultured human.
I'm late to the Startropics party but I loved the first when I played it on the switch. So much so that I bought the cartridge for the second, but haven't had a chance to play it yet
I managed to get a copy just last year.
OMG! Same! "Zoda's Revenge" was my JAM growing up!
@@rpggirl017 I honestly never played the first one. But man, I had Zoda's Revenge, Astyanax, Marble Madness, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (the one AVGN covered) all on the NES growing up and played them all the time.
"Wild Wild Warrior" is the kind of subtle Editor Dylan humor I am here for
Zoda's revenge was a decent sequel that improved a lot of the problems of the original. The bosses were very well thought out. The remix of the Startropics dungeon theme used in the return to C-Island was excellent and pumped you up for the incoming boss rush at the end of the dungeon.
One thing I should mention about Wolfenstein 3D on Super Nintendo is the ID Software hated it because of the changes. So much that it's rumored they gave the Game's code to another developer and turned it to a parody game. That game is Super Noah's Ark 3D.
Seems like in reality, the developer of Super Noah's Ark 3D just paid them for the engine and it was originally going to be a Hellraiser game, but then doom came out and they repurposed it into the Noah's Ark game.
@@ktoba_e Hey, the Hellraiser game happened. Civvie11 reviewed it awhile back. 😁😁
Gotta love the 90's where a game series continuity could be completely lost in localization. Or crazier, the same thing happens but different publishers own the rights to different games in the series.
Peace Keepers was a game I would play with my cousin all the time as a kid. The weird part was that no matter where we rented the game from it never came with instructions. Which was annoying because we had the hardest time trying to figure out how to do the screen clearing super moves that each character had (except for one).
Was it just me or did it like NOT have music?
"Next week a weird 90s fad turned video-game"
What immediately comes to my mind is Skitchin'
Or Pogs
My first thought was Trolls but I can't remember any Trolls games.
@@Sharkbaby424Trolls had a few games, I think they were European only though. I know there's one on the NES, think there's one on the SNES and there's that game Stone Protectors that is technically still a Trolls game (don't know what system it launched on, either SNES or Genesis however one version didn't release and it was leaked online much later).
The Noid? Or maybe that Spot dude from the 7up game?
StarTropics II is actually one of my favorite NES games. One of my buddies had StarTropics I and we would take turns playing that a ton in the early 90's. He had an older brother that somehow found out about this game coming out and hyped it up for all of the neighborhood. When it came out, that same buddy of mine got it on release and we all took turns playing it. I'll never forget how much fun we all had with it. I actually just played through it again about a year ago. It was fun, but definitely challenging! Looking forward to starting up the playthrough this week. Love to see you guys covering this wonderful piece of gaming history that many overlooked. It's just such a wonderful series that I wish would come back some day.
Rushing Beat was the first game. The sequel was released as Rushing Beat Ran, and the third one was Rushing Beat Shura. In Japan of course.
I loved the StarTropics games as a kid, I was obsessed with them. I remember when I got a copy of Zoda's Revenge, I was so happy with it. My friends and I got stuck on the cactus dance puzzle until we realized that we could just bomb the mountain anywhere and you'd get something (our favourite was finding the chicken nugget, which did nothing but was a fun joke).
I remember the commercial for this.
Strange time in video games. Genesis and SNES were in their prime. The Saturn and PS1 were just around the corner (1995) and NES games were still getting released.
I'm so glad we got to go back and see Rival Turf's cover again. Missed you buddy.
11:12 oh God those were so good I loved Planters cheese ballz that was one of my favorite 90 snacks along with Butterfinger BBs
Oh man Butterfinger BBs.
I know! I'd totally forgotten about Cheese Ballz, but childhood memory unlocked. They were absolutely THE best cheesy poof snack.
Another fun episode. I was surprised to hear that Rival Turf had sequels. Nice to see the entire trilogy on NSO now.
I found Zoda's Revenge at a pawn shop. I was obsessed with the NES when I was a kid because it seemed so old and inaccessible-there was a certain mystique to discovering and playing games from before my time. I played and loved StarTropics 1 (another random find in the wild) and had no idea it was a sequel, or even related to StarTropic until I started to play it. I was blown away.
That's odd, we've been waiting so long for you to do a play-through of Zoda's Revenge, and here we can see you have it in your possession! The Star Tropics-videos are among the best on UA-cam, thank you Jared.
I absolutely loved Zoda's Revenge as a kid. The original Startropics too, but I very much remember the sequel making much more of an impact. It might just have been due to something as simple of all the fun different locations/time periods, I STILL think of this game whenever sarsaparilla is ever mentioned. A big reason I was so excited over Jared's Startropics playthrough was in the hopes he would also play the second one too. For it's own sake too certainly, but also very much in hopes for him to keep going with it.
Ya know, I’m just damn proud to be a Patron and to have followed this show from day 1.
I can't believe how much I love this series. Just seeing the mentions of the Nintendo Power coverage brings back memories. Keep them coming!
I played wolfenstein 3D on PC as a child. It was my dad’s pc game and he’d also allow me to watch him play it too. Also I’m happy the sequel of Star Tropics is being mentioned here. I hope you play it at some point like the first one.
I bought both StarTropics and Zoda's Revenge at the same time for 5 bucks each at Kay-Bee toys in '96, when they were pushing all the remaining NES stuff out for cheap to make room for Saturn and Playstation. They helped me get through the first summer of living on my own, and both are excellent games.
You are correct- they did discontinue cheessy paws, and only recently brought them back.
I had a genesis since Christmas 92, and dispute that, when StarTropics 2 come out, I had to have it. Love those games
Omg, I LOVE you dropped a MIB 2 reference with 'old and busted' and 'new hotness' when you were describing Wolfenstein! 😂😂😂
I was born 3 days later. I'm 30 this year. Wow.
Star tropics is my Fave NES game, yes even over Zelda.
I actually just picked up a copy of Zoda’s Revenge the other day, so that’s a neat coincidence
Always a nice friday PM each week (well most weeks 😅). Get back from lunch and grab my now in the 90s fix before continuing my work day. Keep up the good work.
Got lucky finding Zoda's Revenge at Babbage's, in box complete, for $2.99. Fantastic game. Definitely a title that should be played any way you can.
Something about how some of the most interesting games on a system came at the end of their years when new tech was coming in. I applaud those of the times who had the foresight to keep an eye out when the temptation to move to new stuff was strong.
A lot of the best NES games were released well after the SNES was on the market. As a result, many of them ended up getting overlooked...
To be fair that could be said about a lot of consoles. It's like the developers finally figured out how to squeeze everything from the system and they push all the boundaries.
@@Gatorade69 Yeah, but with the NES it's like night and day when you compare launch titles with the games released near the end.
@@HylianFox3 To be fair that's also cause later games also got helper chips in them, some of those later games would not be possible without them. The same could be said of SNES games that used the SuperFX chips.
@@Gatorade69 I just feel like maybe new technology has gotten stagnant. With newer consoles the difference between launch and later titles isn't nearly as drastic.
Zoda's Revenge...so overlooked it's not on Nintendo Switch Online within 5 years of that service's existence. Do the right thing Nintendo and let that game come back to light!
Nintendo : "Nah. Too hard. Do you want us to suffer ? Also Zoda's Revenge ? Never heard of it."
That subtle Men in Black 2 reference.
Here's something I find weird:
So around the Playstation and Nintendo 64 era, I got interested in the NES again and went shopping at Kaybee Toy Stores, as well as other locations... and the ONLY NES games you could get brand new (for three bucks a pop) were Startropics and Zoda's Revenge. They had just STACKS of them. I talked to internet game collector friends and they told me it was the same story in their neck of the woods.
That makes it just so odd that a game which--for awhile--was easily found... has any value at all. I actually still have the copies I bought at that particular Kaybee.
I don't remember that at my KB Toys, however one game they had stacks of form super cheap was Zombies Ate my neighbors. Because of it's price I assumed it was a bad game and passed over it multiple times. My dumb ass chose Pac Man 2 The new adventures over Zombies Ate my neighbors...
@@Gatorade69 Hey pan, Pac-Man 2 The New Adventures is an underrated gem!
Star Tropics was soooooo good! Loved that series so much.
Me and my dad were at an Egghead Software, as he was looking for some stuff for his workplace. I saw one of the PCs there had Doom running and started playing it. MIND BLOWING stuff for me, but my dad (who played Tetris and that's about it) saw it and started having a blast playing it too! The clerk gave us the shareware disc, to which I was like "FREE?! REALLY?!" so that was awesome.
About a week later my dad's whole office was playing Doom. Even his Swedish boss gave it a shot but got motion sickness almost instantly.
Doom rules.
Beautiful game. The boss music still gets me over 2 decades later.
Love me Startropics, have been waiting for this
Same
I came for those nostalgic childhood's release, but stayed for the Chetto's composition breakdown 😂 keep up the fine job 👍🏼
the interaction section keeps getting better! i always look forward to Fridays with new videos from you guys. thanks for the good times :)
This might be the 1st time Jared didnt point down when saying "...today!" during his intro.
Happy Friday!
Can we just pause one second and agree once and for all that Editor Dylan is the best in what he does ?
@1:40 HEY! It’s me! Thanks for the StarTropics love Jerd! My sister says hi by the way. She said her hand is still stretched out for you…
You guys remind me every Friday that I am getting older. I bought StarTropics and Zodas Revenge, new sealed for $5 each in late 1995. I didn't open them until early 2000's because I was bored one day. Yikes.. But still worth it. They are incredible games.
It amazes me that Nintendo doesn't design a Switch (or Switch 2) emulator and just sell rom files of their games for like 1-2$. Sure, they are adding some older titles to the e shop but there's still plenty of games like Zoda's Revenge that aren't playable unless you have a NES and a copy of the game.
Wow, six colors on the pie chart! You can tell the 3D boom with the new consoles rushing to join is going in full swing.
I remember Jaleco and it's logo splash screens. Liked it lol
Every week you guys provide me with knowlegde of games I hadn’t heard of before, that so awesome. It’s like the game show of the good ol days that shows of games that you need to know about. Keep up the great work!
Zoda's Revenge has the honor of being the last NES game I ever bought new at retail. I got it marked down at Toys R Us with some money I had leftover for another game that I also bought marked down... Earthbound.
ZR was also one of the last NES games I got new at retail. All the later purchases came from secondhand sellers like FuncoLand.
God, I miss FuncoLand. So many classic titles at great prices.
Thank you Dylan I appreciate you cut back on the vulgarity on this episode. This is like one of the one shows I watch that’s clean so I can watch it with my kid and thank you thank you thank you thank you.
Dylan you MadmaN, YOU DEVOUR those dunkaroos.
Been loving this channel and these videos Jared. A nice place to stop for a while day to day and remember the past. The videos are just the right length too. Not too short and not too long but just enough time to go over the details. I like the concept of 30 years ago...today- good structure.
This game has been chilling in my Analogue NT Mini Noir for weeks. Such a good game, and an absolutely killer and heavily overlooked OST!
Can confirm, Zoda's revenge is easy to find and get a hold of inexpensively.
Peace keepers was a trilogy?! That was one favorite games. My buddy and I played it all the time!
I hope to see a play through of Zodas Revenge on your plays channel!
I liked both startropics and zoda's revenge as a kid. And while zoda's revenge is an improvement gameplay wise, its also more linear in the overworld department. Besides chapter 5, its very hard to get lost in this game as the maps are all primarily a straight path. With warps that take you to your destination.
I LOVE your content! Thank you for such fun, nostalgic videos. Simpler times.
It’s only a matter of time when you discuss either Doom ii on September 30 of this year considering that’s the 30th anniversary of when it came out. And Rise of the Triad on December 21st of this year on this show.
I'm not sure I would call Star Tropics 2 "overlooked", but hey you got my engagement out of it. Also, love this channel. Insta watch every time.
I'm glad they brought back *Dunkaroos,* but the only flavor I liked as a kid was cinnamon (vanilla cookies with a cinnamon), and those are VERY hard to find. They exist under the flavor of "Cinnamon Toast Crunch", which people are probably disgusted by, so no wonder it doesn't sell well (I assume, since no-one sells it). -_-
I love that this has become a friday tradition
Jarrod this channel is awesome.👌 YES STAR TROPICS 2 ZODA'S REVENGE should be the way it's announced by you.
I looooved Zoda's Revenge and Star Tropics. I am kind of shocked that it can still be bought as cheap as it is. It has all of those makings for an insanely priced NES game: late in the system's life, very good but not well known, published by Nintendo...
Wolfenstein 3D is one of those childhood games that I didn't own personally but I played probably at least as much as any game I owned. My grandpa owned a computer with the shareware version of W3D on it and every time we would go to his place for a family gathering my brother & I would play the game for a couple hours. By then the ps1 had already been out for a while so 3D games were fairly commonplace (and doom had been out for years), but for some reason we really loved and replayed it all the time.
I really like this show man, i look forward to it every week. Thanks!
I already said it before but, i just can't wait to see the launch of the PlayStation and Sega Saturn, the 5th gen is by far my favorite of all time 😊
Later this year...if they talk about Japanese release dates
I remember renting The Peacekeepers frequently from my local video store. I really enjoyed the branching paths. Don't think I ever managed to beat it. Also, the character with the leather coat had a badass DBZ style transformation for his screen clear.
Cheetoh's Paws always reminded me of Honeycomb cereal but cheesy
I have Zoda's Revenge, and have never met a single other person that heard of it.
About the Wolfenstein 3D SNES port: It was published by Imagineer, but actually developed by id Software. They had originally contracted a man to make the port, and then forgotten all about it as they started working on Doom. But right in the middle of Doom's development, they were contacted by Imagineer who hadn't gotten any updates about the project. Id Software couldn't get a hold on the man they'd contracted, so they just decided to do it themselves. Thus, right in the middle of making Doom, they took around 3 weeks "off" to make a Wolfenstein 3D port for the SNES.
Many people doesn't give the NES the importance it really had. By 1994, even with the 16 bit consoles and the upcoming 32-bit ones, the NES was still very popular. We still rented games and consoles (both original and pirate) were still been selling on stores. 1994 saw the last great games for the console in the US and it was discontinued in1995 mostly because the N64 was supposed to arrive that year but many unlicensed games were done by then. It pretty much survived two thirds of the SNES lifespan.
The NES had a freakishly long lifespan for a gaming console, 10 years (1985-1995). It remained on shelves long after the new 16-bit systems had come out. It's still my all-time favorite console.
The Switch is getting close to rivaling it. It'll be 7 years as of March 3rd, and the Switch 2 isn't likely to drop until 2025...
@@HylianFox3 Definitely one the best and a huge cultural milestone around the world.
Stadt Meister? That's pretty clever censoring for the NES port of Wolfenstein 3D.
Your editors were so preoccupied with whether they could they never stopped to think whether they should.
As a Brazilian I laughed at Dylan's remark "there must be a Master System version from Brazil" 😂
Somehow, Zoda returned.
Well they are clones. The "real" Zoda is still dead.
Many years ago, I sat next to a co-worker whose “pregnancy craving” was Cheetos dipped in chocolate pudding. I think Dylan might be wise not to cross the streams between cheese puffs and chocolate. 🤢
Those paws aren't the same as they used to be. Paws had a more dense texture, and a completely different shape.
Definitely more enjoyable than the first outing despite losing a bit of the tropical atmosphere. I like how the final dungeon is actually the first dungeon of the first game with a boss rush crammed in.
Fun fact about the cheese thing: that isn't just cheetos! The ingredient that causes the issue is rennet, and it's the most common way to coagulate milk into curds and whey, with the curds being separated out and used to make most types of cheese. Almost all cheese uses rennet derived from animals, but there are alternate enzymes that can do the job too. The quantity of the rennet that remains in the final product is miniscule, though, so for my money I'd say it'd be vegetarian, though obviously that's an individual call.
I'm surprised they haven't put startropics 2 on NSO yet.
Rushing beat and crime fighters... If I had a nickel for every Japanese beat em up trilogy that was made into 3 unrelated games overseas I'd have 2 nickels, which is not a lot but it's weird it happened twice
I completely forgot this series was a thing
Regarding Wolfenstein 3D, I think it was adapted from the Mac port because that version had the extra weapons and map as well.
I freaking love Rushing Beat Shura! First beatemup I ever clicked with thanks to the dash attacks!!
Those new portraits in the localized version are hilariously bad though!! Just play the original, it’s good.
Good episode as always.
Don't forget that Wolfenstein on the SNES had all new maps. As such, the SNES version is effectively a whole separate game, basically the third in the series, following after Spear of Destiny and the original.
10:14 to paraphrase Todd Ingram, Evil Ex no.4 "Cheetos aren’t vegan?!"
Although i have been vegan for about 10 years and never heard about that enzyme thing. I never thought i would learn something like that from this show!
You just keep on being the best Dylan
Great episode, I wish you'd add a little bit more history behind the games, or even showing you beating the final boss in some of these. You make amazing consistent content, for real!
Hell yeah, I love the Peace Keepers! As for why the Rushing Beat series was rebranded stateside, the only thing I can think of as to why is that the story is considered an afterthought in most beat-em-ups. So the people who localized the game probably thought "Eh who gives a crap about the story, just copy what the X-Men are doing but make it noticeably different so that we don't get sued."
Im all here for mid show 90s snack food reviews haha.
By the people who made Quest 64? I already know what kind of quality to expect there, then.
EDIT: 4:52 what the heck is that art?
Zelda's Revenge sounds awesome!
An extremely nerdy thing that I can add to the discourse here is that the SNES version of Wolfenstein 3D was derived from (or at least shares an immense amount of similarities to) the Macintosh version of the game, rather than the original DOS iteration