A Shocking Knicks/Wolves Trade Could Make or Break Karl-Anthony Towns | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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  • The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Austin Rivers to react to the Knicks trading for Karl-Anthony Towns.
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  • @Warrentertainment
    @Warrentertainment 4 години тому +330

    Bill, get Zach Lowe to the ringer my guy! Let's do it!

    • @MrMoraltv
      @MrMoraltv 4 години тому

      He already there

    • @coltonroedl5736
      @coltonroedl5736 3 години тому +1

      Everyone agrees!!!

    • @LLLLL17992
      @LLLLL17992 3 години тому +6

      If espn cannot afford that guy what makes you think ringer can with his 7 digit salary?

    • @TerpsMatterPodcast
      @TerpsMatterPodcast 3 години тому

      ​@@LLLLL17992ESPN can afford him they just didn't want him anymore

    • @EdFredHernandez
      @EdFredHernandez 3 години тому

      Bring him home

  • @stewybstewy
    @stewybstewy 3 години тому +89

    Lowe NEEDS to be hired asap. Pay the man

    • @tjanderson5892
      @tjanderson5892 2 години тому

      Ya idk if the Ringer can afford talent like Lowe. Bill would prob have to give him some equity in the company to sign up w/ em

    • @CrazyCurryKing
      @CrazyCurryKing Годину тому

      ​@@tjanderson5892 its not like lowe gonna get an offer like that again, he'll take less money as soon as his severance is done

  • @samk2982
    @samk2982 3 години тому +85

    Is it weird to sit in front of a giant poster of yourself?

    • @shoquan9434
      @shoquan9434 2 години тому +9

      Yall newbies nowadays call everything weird when it’s probably you that’s weird

    • @sardonicus76
      @sardonicus76 2 години тому +28

      It’s not weird at all. Lots of people have done it. Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Kim Jong Il, Charles Foster Kane…

    • @twilitezn
      @twilitezn 2 години тому

      @@sardonicus76😂😂😂

    • @colesmith193
      @colesmith193 Годину тому +2

      @@sardonicus76don’t forget about White Goodman!

    • @sardonicus76
      @sardonicus76 Годину тому

      @@colesmith193 Nobody makes me bleed my own blood! Nobody!

  • @melverk_
    @melverk_ 3 години тому +199

    Austin Rivers mural of himself in the background has me weak 🤣

    • @alexsamain812
      @alexsamain812 3 години тому +4

      i noticed that too lmao

    • @Obiamajoyisrmd
      @Obiamajoyisrmd 3 години тому +18

      Someone gifted it to him. You guys should do better and get over it.

    • @jasonjones3694
      @jasonjones3694 2 години тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @joshuablack8221
      @joshuablack8221 2 години тому +11

      @@ObiamajoyisrmdIt doesn’t matter, it’s still funny, especially given that he didn’t accomplish anything in the NBA. Take your own advice and move on.

    • @accordingtodrew7302
      @accordingtodrew7302 2 години тому +12

      @@joshuablack8221didn’t accomplish anything in the nba? But he made it to the nba. 10 year veteran. Most players who come to the league end up just like that. Journey man who just want to make it to the 10 year mark for the nba insurance. But what have you accomplished?

  • @jasonwick4714
    @jasonwick4714 4 години тому +22

    This trades reeks of guitar Jimmy

  • @Tonellacam
    @Tonellacam 3 години тому +13

    cam payne , deuce , towns , bridges , brunson, OG can all hit 3's

  • @ki2726
    @ki2726 3 години тому +13

    Bill needs to re-hire Zach Lowe! He’s a much better basketball analyst than all the clowns working at ESPN like Kendrick Perkins and Stephen A Smith.

    • @scarletspider1240
      @scarletspider1240 2 години тому

      That’s because he’s an actual analyst…all those other d-bags are just there for viral clips and fake outrage. ESPN prefers the soap opera vs actually covering and analyzing the game, they’re pathetic.

  • @noodle123ify
    @noodle123ify 3 години тому +10

    Love DDV but JB, Mikal, OG and KAT can all shoot. Josh can roam around and do his thing

  • @chazbert2020
    @chazbert2020 2 години тому +29

    I liked Rivers's commentary, despite the poster.

  • @andysauro1500
    @andysauro1500 Годину тому +11

    The Knicks were reliable and played 0 mistake 110% effort basketball last playoffs. That was their sauce. KAT, while talented, is the opposite of that.

    • @Dipset415
      @Dipset415 34 хвилини тому

      He want be asked to do as much Knicks are loaded🤙🏿

  • @GraceAloneThroughFaithAlone
    @GraceAloneThroughFaithAlone 3 години тому +46

    The obvious winner of the trade is the Nuggets. Absolutely idiotic Minnesota trade.

    • @diegobromfield
      @diegobromfield 3 години тому +5

      😂 exactly what I have been saying. Most folks that are claiming the Wolves won are doing what Bill is doing. They are looking at it from the blasted money angle and not what really matters. The BASKETBALL angle. Its not like literal cap space can go on the court and take shots.

    • @finglo9521
      @finglo9521 3 години тому +1

      Wrong..good trade go mn..for money reasons and nugget needed kat lol

    • @ThunderMan2
      @ThunderMan2 3 години тому +3

      Wrong Nuggets ain’t the winner of anything

    • @jacobw8849
      @jacobw8849 3 години тому

      lol! Bill thinks it’s the opposite.

    • @SkiLILs
      @SkiLILs 3 години тому +4

      ​@diegobromfield weren't winning with him. They know that. Offloading that contract is a plus.

  • @Cigstone528
    @Cigstone528 2 години тому +9

    How were we “better without him”?! When we had Randle OG & JB we were 12-2 blowing our contenders. We were not on that pace without him at all. Yall just push these baseless narratives

    • @RockWILK
      @RockWILK 2 години тому +1

      Amen

    • @thekongstocks
      @thekongstocks Годину тому

      TRUE but it was the regular season (mid-season)...practice? Y'all talkin' about practice?! lol j.k.

    • @MA9ELLAN
      @MA9ELLAN Годину тому

      IQ sucked, RJ sucked and Julius sucked...I was happy one playoff game when he was benched in the fourth and Obi played...we lost Obi to please Randle who forced things and turned the ball over too much...ultimately Randle made the teammates worse.

  • @NoCaping
    @NoCaping 4 години тому +51

    Bill hire Zach Lowe btw im pissed my Warriors didn't get Kat 😔

    • @cleigh113
      @cleigh113 3 години тому +2

      Lol, Kat seriously overrated

    • @lghrns
      @lghrns 3 години тому +1

      What would the warriors even give up to match salaries?

    • @leeschumacher8285
      @leeschumacher8285 3 години тому

      Wiggins for KAT - who says no?

    • @golanheights9000
      @golanheights9000 2 години тому

      Kat is terrible. Are you a fan?

    • @golanheights9000
      @golanheights9000 2 години тому

      ​@@leeschumacher8285 Someone who's watched basketball.

  • @zj8478
    @zj8478 3 години тому +4

    Ddv def boosts the wolves bench
    And if the wolves wanna play fast they can insert Naz for Rudy.
    But idk about trading a healthy player for an injured player .
    Knicks are def contenders but their paint defense is going to be suspect

  • @AP-xj9qr
    @AP-xj9qr Годину тому +4

    Bill interrupting Austin the whole podcast. Unbelievable😂. Let a mf finish the thought!!

  • @bilic8094
    @bilic8094 3 години тому +10

    Minnesota lost a key piece in defending against jokic i don't know how that is good.

    • @discowolf25
      @discowolf25 2 години тому +5

      2 words bro. Naz “Naz Reid” Reid

    • @1MarKnows
      @1MarKnows 2 години тому

      Naz reid is food on defense for every top big in the league​@@discowolf25

    • @scarletspider1240
      @scarletspider1240 2 години тому

      It’s not like Towns is an amazing defender, they’ll be fine. I’d be relieved that his bloated contract is gone more than anything else.

    • @blakelarson5005
      @blakelarson5005 2 години тому

      Jokic made quick wok of KAT 2023 playoffs. Then the Nuggets got rid of Brown and KCP. MPJ and Murray are always hurt.
      Thunder are the clear favorite in the west and the Mavs and Wolves are the only teams that can challenge them.

    • @Cultivated.
      @Cultivated. Годину тому

      @@scarletspider1240
      KAT has been the best defender on Jokic we’ve seen, wolves can’t beat the nuggets now, nor a lot of other teams

  • @kevincameron418
    @kevincameron418 3 години тому +7

    Knicks clearly won the trade! Randle didn’t want to take less than max! We have no idea how his shoulder injury will impact his game. Donte didn’t like the lesser role playing 15 mins behind Bridges! End of the day the Knicks have the best 7 man rotation in the league- Brunson, Bridges, OG, McBribe, Josh Hart, Mitch and Towns!! If they can stay healthy we will definitely make the NBA finals!! Book it!!

    • @kgtl12345
      @kgtl12345 Годину тому +1

      Knicks have the best 7 man rotation is peak Knicks fan delusion. Tatum Brown White Holliday Porzingis Horford Hauser. You would trade all your wings for ours and our guards will eat Bruson alive. And get this, they just won the title

    • @pamelapender6225
      @pamelapender6225 41 хвилина тому

      @@kgtl12345

    • @connorstevens2763
      @connorstevens2763 13 хвилин тому

      Celtics still got the better starting 5 but horford and hauser is not better than McBride and Mitch off the bench or McBride and hart off the bench 😭

    • @Seven9_exchange
      @Seven9_exchange 9 хвилин тому

      Now the Knicks have Towns on a super max deal on a bad knee. Hopefully Thibs doesn’t run him down and he can still play when they have to pay him $61 million four years from now.

  • @gustavorangel1331
    @gustavorangel1331 4 години тому +17

    Congratulations for your self esteem, Austin. Props up, buddy

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 4 години тому +8

      The mural behind him always cracks me up.

    • @Obiamajoyisrmd
      @Obiamajoyisrmd 3 години тому +4

      The one with low self esteem is the person who thinks they are talking to Austin rivers through their UA-cam comments.

    • @gustavorangel1331
      @gustavorangel1331 2 години тому +1

      @@Obiamajoyisrmd why the hate, man? Just a joke, jeez. Chill up, dude...

    • @gustavorangel1331
      @gustavorangel1331 2 години тому

      @David-iv6je got me wondering if I would do the same in his place. The answer is yes lol

  • @ChazJazzNY
    @ChazJazzNY 2 години тому +3

    Robinson won't be back till January and not strong enough to finish the year healthy. Julious is in the last year of his contract. Great player but we now have a top 5 centers and young. Although Robinson is younger but injury prone

  • @sergeynazaro1768
    @sergeynazaro1768 2 години тому +3

    Wiggins lost his father and was caring for him while he was sick, but you know that and you’re wondering why his level of play changed!?????

  • @chucknola484
    @chucknola484 3 години тому +3

    It was the way he was getting 25 a night which made Knicks fans hate Randle. Ball stopping, low FG% does not = winning basketball!

  • @santiagoskywalker
    @santiagoskywalker 2 години тому +3

    Both teams won, Minnesota got depth and maturity and the Knicks got a higher ceiling all star.

  • @joshhutchins6747
    @joshhutchins6747 2 години тому +2

    KAT will thrive in the East. I've been down on him his entire career, up until last year. He showed maturity with how he handled Ant's ascension, and even though the Mavs made him look bad again, I actually thought his game improved in decision making and defensive effort. This will be the first year I'm just pulling for the guy, barring a finals matchup with the Mavs. I genuinely hopes he has a monster year.

  • @am3818
    @am3818 3 години тому +2

    It’ll work for the knicks if KAT doesn’t succumb to the pressure. They match up so well with the Celtics so I hope he plays to his potential and doesn’t do dumbass fouls. The spacing/shooting with Gobert/Randle will be horrible for Ant and the offense. They got a little weaker imo.

  • @themadcow71
    @themadcow71 4 години тому +38

    KAT is one of the dumbest NBA players I've ever seen play. Good move for the Wolves.

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 4 години тому

      Right? He's such a moron.

    • @prasantht6910
      @prasantht6910 4 години тому +7

      Bro trippin. Kat is already a top 25 center. His career averages is uppppp there.

    • @stardestroyer44
      @stardestroyer44 3 години тому +7

      Career averages Lololol. What has he done in the playoffs

    • @thenightowls2804
      @thenightowls2804 3 години тому +3

      ​@prasantht6910 The Twolves gave up 4 first round picks and 40 mil a year to Gobert just to replace KAT💀💀💀

    • @Obiamajoyisrmd
      @Obiamajoyisrmd 3 години тому +5

      That’s a lazy comment. He’s one of the best bigs in the NBA.

  • @iTuber012
    @iTuber012 3 години тому +12

    Terrible CBA... NBA product sucks now... This is just the start... Basically cannot build teams anymore

    • @hustlecrowe9440
      @hustlecrowe9440 3 години тому +5

      Owners are multi-billionaires, they can afford pay luxury tax, they just refuse to.

    • @professorchaos9986
      @professorchaos9986 3 години тому +2

      You can, you just can’t give out max contracts to bench players like Gobert

    • @tompratt7125
      @tompratt7125 3 години тому +2

      I'm a Nuggets fan that has watched our title team whittled down during Jokic's prime because of the draconian penalties of getting into the second apron so I get your take. But you can still build championship teams like the Nuggets did and the Thunder are doing. Draft and develop players well and you'll do just fine with this CBA. You can no longer outspend everyone and buy a championship repeatedly. You can thank Joe Lacob for what he did as an owner and the fear of Steve Balmer and what he might do for this CBA.

    • @MavenFade
      @MavenFade 2 години тому

      Bench player is a stretch, but hes def not a max guy​@@professorchaos9986

    • @tompratt7125
      @tompratt7125 2 години тому +1

      @@hustlecrowe9440 This isn't about owners being unwilling to pay. If your team is in the second apron your front office is essentially restricted from doing virtually anything to improve your roster. Teams that are in that apron are essentially handcuffed from making moves. Zero roster flexibility. That was the whole point of this CBA. The league knew that owners would spend unlimited amounts like they do in baseball so to keep the richest owners from dominating the league they put in super severe penalties for over spending.

  • @QGuides
    @QGuides 3 години тому +3

    Get Lowe pleeeeeeeeeeeease

  • @mrwesmess6715
    @mrwesmess6715 55 хвилин тому +2

    I'm not conceited.I just like pictures of myself

  • @DaBaltimoron
    @DaBaltimoron 2 години тому +2

    This trade was a huge win for the T-wolves

  • @chrislittles19
    @chrislittles19 3 години тому +11

    Donte didn't want to back up bridges that's why the deal happened...

  • @momohmart
    @momohmart 4 години тому +2

    Glad you guys covered the Towns' trade.

  • @diegobromfield
    @diegobromfield 3 години тому +17

    So he is saying Wolves won the trade because they got a 6th man? (Keep in mind they already had the 6th man of the year) And in the same breath also said he doesn't get the Randle angle? (So obviously a downgraded 2nd option) And also said they are better off due to money? What about actual basketball talent? You know... the thing that you need to win a freaking championship? Bill must have been drunk. Knicks CLEARLY got better.
    Oh right I just remember he is a Celtics fan.

    • @WaGwan-n6x
      @WaGwan-n6x 3 години тому +1

      Yeah it's hilarious how they try to cope with the financial flexibility angle. If they wanted to just dump Kat's contract there were much better ways. They themselves acquired a lesser star bigman in gobert for a bunch of picks and prospects. They definitely thought they can replace Kat with randle 🤦🏽‍♂️
      And what exactly are they "clearing cap" for? They already threw max deals at McDaniels, Rudy and Ant. But Kat was the problem? 😂
      Ultimately you need to fill the cap with a star player if that silly argument holds water. There aren't exactly a line of stars flocking to Minnesota. They'll be lucky to gain interest from anybody half of Kat's level.

    • @jjstraka1982
      @jjstraka1982 2 години тому +3

      ​@@WaGwan-n6xGobert had a significantly bigger impact on actually winning games. It's not even close.

    • @bpina2170
      @bpina2170 2 години тому +2

      No he’s saying wolves won because they got rid of a huge contract, they’ll be a lot more flexible in the future

    • @bobbybecker3572
      @bobbybecker3572 Годину тому

      Knicks only got better if you haven't been paying attention the last several years. Playoff KAT is stinky stinky trash. And his body is breaking down. Plus he's a five year old trapped in a thirty year old body

  • @A1since
    @A1since 3 години тому +2

    JJJ is another fouling machine

  • @rayzhou3151
    @rayzhou3151 4 години тому +2

    Been waiting for this !!!

  • @Kromatt
    @Kromatt 4 години тому +1

    I'm just commenting, doesn't matter what number.
    With all the injuries Knicks have been having, I feel that is why this trade was made.

  • @BWalker9313
    @BWalker9313 Годину тому +1

    This doesn’t make sense to me for either team. KAT can’t defend, and Randle doesn’t help with Minny’s spacing.
    I just don’t get it
    The New Orleans deal would make way more sense to me.
    Conley, Ant, Mcdaniels, Ingram, Gobert
    Murray, CJ, Jones, Zion, KAT.
    Those are really good lineups. I think that makes way more sense

  • @jakemorris1192
    @jakemorris1192 Годину тому +1

    The Denver part of this trade that Bill mentioned is laughably bad. Minnesota just looking past Denver now because they wanted to cut costs by shipping KAT out? That’s just a bottom barrel opinion

  • @Jfreire16
    @Jfreire16 2 години тому +1

    I understand the hesitation with this trade and the history with the Knicks. The reason why I believe this will work is because of Jalen Brunson and his leadership long with Thibs. I truly believe they will make it work.

  • @yosemite_ham6879
    @yosemite_ham6879 3 години тому +6

    Winner: Knicks
    Loser: Wolves
    Big Winner: Nuggets

  • @biggeneral1628
    @biggeneral1628 3 години тому +1

    LOL at adding KAT making the spacing worse. If spacing proves to be problematic the Knicks can just plug Deuce McBride in to start and have Hart as the sixth man

  • @skrilly321
    @skrilly321 Годину тому +1

    The hell is he talking about. Simmons seems to forget that his team traded for KP and Jrue last year and then is like how come they other teams reset all the time

  • @johnkirlin5034
    @johnkirlin5034 Годину тому +1

    You can tell these guys never really watched the Timberwolves except for a couple times during the season.

  • @ruxcooking
    @ruxcooking 2 години тому +1

    Love Towns in NY but knicks losing both Hartenstein and Divincenzo just sounds like trouble.

  • @rayzhou3151
    @rayzhou3151 4 години тому +9

    Damn Austin rivers is really good at podcasting tbh

  • @SSJRome
    @SSJRome 4 години тому +4

    Just imagine all the actions that New York ran with hartenstein at the top of the key and replace him with KAT , and then ask yourself who won the trade

    • @rizzo021
      @rizzo021 3 години тому +3

      Kat doesn't set screens

    • @SSJRome
      @SSJRome 3 години тому

      @@rizzo021 watch games

    • @c.r.b.5086
      @c.r.b.5086 3 години тому

      @@SSJRomeas a wolves fan who has followed Kat his whole career and watched the games he is not a good pick and roll big…

    • @rizzo021
      @rizzo021 3 години тому +3

      @SSJRome lol I'm a.knicks fan and even i know that ant goes to gobert far more in the pick and roll. Kat is too soft to set screens and he also won't roll to the rim...ever.

    • @SSJRome
      @SSJRome 3 години тому

      @@c.r.b.5086 i think there’s more to his game than just pick and roll

  • @kyliedadify
    @kyliedadify 4 години тому +8

    Most Minnesota fans are happy with this trade.

    • @esohny
      @esohny 3 години тому +1

      The dumb ones are.

    • @cleigh113
      @cleigh113 3 години тому +5

      Made thir team worse

    • @jacobw8849
      @jacobw8849 3 години тому

      I wouldn’t say most are happy about it… I think most understand why it had to happen and they realize that Naz is the reason why they won’t miss the Karl minutes as much as some fans think.

    • @thomaschrischapman64
      @thomaschrischapman64 2 години тому

      You will hate Kat when you get to know him 😂😂😂😂

    • @mg8264
      @mg8264 47 хвилин тому

      I'd say it's the opposite if you look anywhere online

  • @BruceBryant-vl3jw
    @BruceBryant-vl3jw 2 години тому +5

    Would everyone please stop saying that the Knicks played better last year without Randle??
    The New York Knicks' record with and without Julius Randle is as follows:
    With Randle: The Knicks were 29-17 with Randle in the lineup, which was good for eighth place in the league.
    Without Randle: The Knicks were 21-15 without Randle, which was good for 12th place.
    Also, they were 11-1 when Brunson, OG, and Randle all played together.
    He’s not a perfect player but people forget what really happened and seem to just run with these narratives about Randle…

    • @joshuablack8221
      @joshuablack8221 2 години тому

      They played better in the playoffs 💯

    • @paul-macfarlane
      @paul-macfarlane Годину тому

      For a lot of those games without Randle the Knicks were a skeleton crew because OG was out for those too, so it’s a little misleading to use the record without Randle because it’s also without OG

  • @stevenvaldezii7936
    @stevenvaldezii7936 3 години тому +1

    I think in the long run the wolves will win this.

    • @joshuablack8221
      @joshuablack8221 2 години тому

      You can be certain that it won’t 😂

  • @tompratt7125
    @tompratt7125 3 години тому +1

    I get why the Knicks did this but I don't understand how this helps the Wolves other than maybe eventually getting them out of the second apron which will cripple them if they stay in it. It definitely doesn't help them on the court. Randle is constantly injured and a very inconsistent player. He's way too small to serve as a help defender v Jokic which will leave Gobert one on one against Joker. We all know how that turns out. Complete dominance and a Wolves series loss. Maybe getting a future #1 from Detroit is part of the reason. This seems like waving a white flag on the present and looking toward the future. We Nuggets fans sympathize.

    • @stevenhs9773
      @stevenhs9773 2 години тому +2

      They are creating cap flexibility. When Randle and Gobert opts out next season, they will have an opportunity to sign a big-name free-agent (or sign and trade), then go over the cap to extend Naz Reid and Gobert (or let him go). At the same time, they pick up arguably the best value contract in all of the NBA with Divo.

    • @tompratt7125
      @tompratt7125 6 хвилин тому

      @@stevenhs9773 Yeah, that's what I said half wit. It doesn't help them now so they have no chance whatsoever to compete for a championship which is the point of all this. I realize you Wolves fans have such low expectations after decades of being terrible that you can justify any moves.

  • @JordanGurney
    @JordanGurney 3 години тому +1

    DDV is being hyped up so much.... why do I have a completely different perception of him? As a Warriors fan.... that year that he played for us... felt a little underwhelming. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @watchingmedia101
      @watchingmedia101 2 години тому

      That’s fair but he definitely matured a lot in the interim and upped his three point consistency

    • @grindhousesports
      @grindhousesports Годину тому

      I was happy the knicks got him because I saw glimpses of this in golden state when curry was out

  • @arthurlindsey2017
    @arthurlindsey2017 2 години тому +3

    Rhetorical question but who the fuck hangs a poster of themselves in their office(?) documenting all of their former places of employment?

  • @NOHITJEROME
    @NOHITJEROME Годину тому

    hot take this trade is gonna end up being regretted on both sides

  • @KK-pm7ud
    @KK-pm7ud 3 години тому +3

    If it was anyone but Austin Rivers, I'd listen. Well maybe not Kendrick Perkins or Malika Andrews.

  • @dusttaker
    @dusttaker 2 години тому +3

    KNICKS GREAT MOVE!! WORLD CHAMPS BOUND YALL

  • @wutup3x
    @wutup3x 43 хвилини тому

    Stop blowing up donte...I'm a huge Knicks fan but come on ..after Brunson for hurt in the playoffs the knocks offense looked terrible. Loved Donte but townes can shoot & they even got Shamet who can shoot.

  • @wutup3x
    @wutup3x 33 хвилини тому

    The Randle hate is so disappointing as a Knicks fan...franchise been trash & this dude really took the challenge & showed up more times than not.

  • @iTuber012
    @iTuber012 3 години тому +1

    KAT has all the talent to be as good as an Embid or Joker but his personality stiffles him. He'll never be a number 1 option

    • @alexsamain812
      @alexsamain812 3 години тому +1

      the knicks have brunson. KAT is a good no. 2 and for OG and Bridges to do all the defense.

    • @yosemite_ham6879
      @yosemite_ham6879 3 години тому

      He does not have Jokic level talent. Jokic is generational top 15ish alltime talent. Kat is more like Chris Bosh level talent.

    • @seikousawaneh4814
      @seikousawaneh4814 3 години тому

      He doesn’t have that talent he’s good tho

  • @anycoveryoulike7510
    @anycoveryoulike7510 3 години тому

    Personally, I hate this trade for both sides. Really wanted to see the Villanova 4 and I think Minny had a unique edge with Gobert, Towns and Reid as 3 good bigs

  • @91thompson71
    @91thompson71 56 хвилин тому

    If you wanna be taken seriously as a contender…Karl Anthony Towns should not be on your team lol

  • @MrScroogedmcduck
    @MrScroogedmcduck Годину тому

    Aggregate..the gravitas..so nuanced. ....wikied cool. And Pisser. Your diction is bon

  • @Kilogram93
    @Kilogram93 6 хвилин тому

    I still don’t understand why Minnesota did this move. I get why they wanted to move Kat because of the 2nd Apron but Randle, DiVo and a pick is worse compensation than what they could of got from the Pelicans. And now your starting lineup is not going to have any spacing with Randle and Gobert. This move benefits the Knicks more long term especially if Kat is able the stretch the floor with Brunson running the show.

  • @joefried6604
    @joefried6604 Годину тому

    Homer Celtic GUY Bill Simmons
    1 and done for the Celtics
    -----------
    White vs Brunson
    Brown vs Hart or Bridges
    Hoffard vs BIG CAT
    Tatum vs OG
    Pozingas. Bs TOBINSON

  • @darthquaider54
    @darthquaider54 18 хвилин тому

    It’s crazy to watch dudes like Austin and Jeff Teague who were long-time solid rotation players in the NBA, often even starting, so they were in the top 1% of basketball players in the world
    …and yet they’re already so great at this pod & media stuff that they stand out way more than they ever really did on the court. Again that’s not a knock on them, they were legit, but holy cow they’re even better to listen to. Loving it

  • @tonybayarea
    @tonybayarea 31 хвилина тому

    Knicks won the KAT/Randle/Divincenzo trade. Minnesota got better Defensively but worse Offensively , Knicks lost Defense from Randle & Donte but got better Offensively with Towns.

  • @JasonBrendan-td4qb
    @JasonBrendan-td4qb 37 хвилин тому

    Bill casually calling KAT a top 35 guy or the 32nd best player in the league is objectively INSANE. He’s AT WORST a top 25 guy. You gonna have guys like Jimmy butler and Jamal murray ahead of him?? Just cause they had a couple hot playoff runs? When’s the last time Dame or PG did anything meaningful? I have KAT 22nd but he should be no worse than the 25th best player in the league. Jokic, Giannis, Luka, SGA, Tatum, Embiid, Ant, LeBron, Steph, KD, AD, Booker, Mitchell, Brunson, Jaylen, Bam, Kawhi, Haliburton, Ja, Kyrie, Wemby, KAT.

  • @tonybayarea
    @tonybayarea 33 хвилини тому

    Golden State Warriors missed out and trying to trade for Karl Anthony Towns before he was traded to the Knicks. Warriors could've done a 3 Team trade (Golden State / Minnesota / _________ ).
    Send Andrew Wiggins & etc.... to a 3rd Team and KAT to the Warriors. Steph Curry and Kat on the same team would've be 🔥 to see.

  • @tonybayarea
    @tonybayarea 12 хвилин тому

    Timberwolves are going to have to trade Julius Randle again to another team or trade Rudy Gobert. Doesn't make sense with the T.Wolves. Kind of Redundant to have two players who give you the same type of style on the court. All Defense and hardly any Offense.

  • @le9335
    @le9335 37 хвилин тому

    Rivers is atrocious. His takes contradict themselves by the minute. Anyone who thinks Zach Lowe is answer probably thinks an empty dominoes box is most hilarious person they know. Lowe couldn’t beat single entry DFS tournaments. He knows nothing. More Joe House. Knowledge. Humor. Entertaining. I wouldn’t listen to a Zach Lowe podcast if a gun was pointed at my head.

  • @slowrunner14
    @slowrunner14 43 хвилини тому

    Knicks made a good move..it's a little bit of a risk, but Thib's and Leon Rose know Townsend and his family really well. Townsend fits better with the part the Knicks already have than Randle did. Unfortunately the Knicks had to part with DDV, but they signed Shamet and they have Deuce so the combination with Townsends shooting will open up the floor for JB.

  • @derrickmatai1414
    @derrickmatai1414 45 хвилин тому

    I don’t get the end of this podcast. Y’all complaining you wanted to see the Knicks team play it out but they can move Randle when they need to. All I’m hearing is you know they were a move short and they just made the move to improve.
    Austin Rivers talking about the state of the game and the players sitting in front a mural of himself is wild 😂

  • @APTHAGREAT-28
    @APTHAGREAT-28 14 хвилин тому

    The Villanova Knicks was a good headline and storyline. I’m losing interest in the NBA. I hope the expansion teams rejuvenate my interest.

  • @sloanNYC
    @sloanNYC Годину тому

    Now didn't make sense to me, especially Wolves I feel like they should have seen how they look with another year together after a strong run last year. The KAT $$ and new cap rules just makes it tough next year... I don't know how KAT and Tibs feel about each other either.

  • @Cultivated.
    @Cultivated. Годину тому

    Rivers on Randle with the Wolves is on point, what’s he gonna do with Gobert? They can’t play together, period, this won’t work for the wolves this season if they keep Randle, and DDV is a good player, but the wolves need WINGS not more and more small guys, ANT, Mike, Rob, NAW, now we get another dude under 6’6? There’s one fucking wing who can play on the whole roster (Jaden)
    As a wolves fan I think we’re fucked this season, I hope I’m wrong but I don’t like our prospects

  • @Wcamp172
    @Wcamp172 19 хвилин тому

    The main difference with Knicks star chasing this time is we have a team already set around this guy and he isn’t even the number 1 star(although $ wise he is) he also fits perfectly. Still don’t love the trade but I def see the vision.

  • @Maxx-w9b
    @Maxx-w9b Годину тому

    Not knowing the ridiculousness of that background requires some major reality detachment

  • @Samsonmanase
    @Samsonmanase Годину тому

    Stop 🛑 it ! Vini was going be a bust before warriors got him on minimum and won . This guy hasn’t done anything to be considered a loss, KAT is the best player and will show up and u can’t tell me Randle wasn’t expendable when Knicks went to conference . Knicks now can win it all given everyone healthy

  • @juicethreetwo
    @juicethreetwo 2 години тому

    You're the best. More proof you really know what you're talking about! I go back to Jumpin Johny Green. 100% Agree with your take Bill when you say this is Knicks Classic, getting bogged down with a giant contract for an old veteran or a good but not great player. And now on the brink of real title contemtion the jinxed fan base gets a pie in the face as the team pulls out a Knicks Classic move giving up WAAAAY too much for KAT who will NOT be a fan fave Guaranteed. He will take the same blame as JR.

  • @moderndancingfool
    @moderndancingfool 2 години тому

    Towns is the best player in the deal & the Knicks were without Randle for that run. BUT. Losing DD is going to hurt because those weren't empty calorie shots - those were energizing fuel kind of shots. And with attitude. And OG is still injury-prone. The Knicks will need to bubble wrap those starters cause they can't absorb the loss of a main player like the Celtics can. And it still isn't a team that looks like it can beat the Celtics. And did you see that Towns contract?

  • @matthewvanwinkle6742
    @matthewvanwinkle6742 2 години тому

    Bill asks how we got a league with Etch a Sketch rosters. He needs to shine a light on the way the league is covered, including how he contributes to that coverage.
    If you're an All-Star without a ring, you get tired of UA-camrs breathing down your neck wondering if you really want it bad enough. If you're running a franchise you get people asking what you're doing to get to the next level 24/7/365. The noise isn't good for what happens on the court, but it is good for "business," whatever that means.
    Bill's right about there being less patience in the sport. He might think a bit more about what's whittled it down, and check his own floor for sawdust.

  • @David-ke5nm
    @David-ke5nm 32 хвилини тому

    Some real good potential for Rivers in my opinion. One of the only ex athletes to be even semi interesting. Once he no longer has relationships with the people he’s talking about he’ll probably hit his stride

  • @stevenswayze
    @stevenswayze Годину тому

    This team really just galvanized into a true core of Ant, Naz and McDaniels. Those 3 are tight, they have already been training together over the summer, and this just puts more expectations on that trio, and it looks like they are going to be able to handle it.

  • @jayjones9225
    @jayjones9225 56 хвилин тому

    This is a win for the Knicks. DiVo shoots the lights out, but believe it or not we did better with him on the bench and McBride in the game. Randle is good but Towns is better.

  • @arielrommelbriones8948
    @arielrommelbriones8948 3 години тому

    Great pod I think the Minnesota win this trade I think naz reid would be great next year if he started but its funny they traded donte after brunson just took pay cut I understand if donte wants to be traded but in my opinion I rather have keep hartenstien and trade bridges and try to trade for Julius randle Robinson Mitchell because his always injured or let them walk and find a back up center then it would be perfect starting 5 of brunson , donte , bridges , anunoby and hartenstien
    and you have josh hart 6th man because I was fan of their thoughness and defense
    Because randle and KAT sucks in the playoffs they don't have thoughness especially they need to extend bridges at long term I think Knicks lose this trade at least Minnesota they can still trade randle or let him go I think naz is a better fit and they have donte and they got pistons first round pick

  • @kindredwinecoff
    @kindredwinecoff Годину тому

    What have we learned? In the 2nd apron era you need depth. Wolves have a lot of it now, and most of it is on the same timeline. Knicks have less, but still a great top-7. I like it for both teams, more for the Wolves.

  • @tjanderson5892
    @tjanderson5892 2 години тому

    Towns is talented, but still one of the most overrated great players in the league. Has all the tools, but the corniness of his personality is also reflected in his game lol. Then watching him try and act like a leader just came off as a poorly written joke. Dude can ball tho

  • @grindhousesports
    @grindhousesports 2 години тому

    Julius randle will be missed yea he can drive you nuts with stupid shots and the i dont care faces but his bully ball was something we needed when you watch the 4th qtr nobody wants to bang with randle he beats you up! Kat to soft for that and the rest of the team to small. I see this as a better trade for the Minnesota then for the knicks. DD to he had some ice water in his veins we needed that.. knicks will be alright though we still got talent and i trust leon rose that man has a vision for the knicks

  • @srinivassuresh466
    @srinivassuresh466 3 години тому

    The winner of the trade is the nuggets. Now thats one less big for him to worry about. Julius randle and karl Anthony towns add no value to the teams they traded, and by value i mean playoff performances. KAT guarding embiid giannis and kristaps, good luck with that😂😂😂

  • @daron9229
    @daron9229 Годину тому

    KAT’s “silly fouling” won’t be a problem in New York - the refs will be looking the other way to let the biggest basketball market get their championship.

  • @kissmills
    @kissmills 2 години тому

    Yall tripping thinking miles McBride isn’t gonna be an upgrade to dvo, he has same impact on defense might be more of a problem, and can play the 1 to relieve Brunson, we good. And I love dvo we gonna cheer him when in the garden.

  • @PhillyDawg-m4u
    @PhillyDawg-m4u 3 години тому

    Acttully, this new CBA brings parity to the NBA, like the NFL. It means dudes must play efficiently, bench players matter and coaching matters. No more super teams.

  • @PlayLikeABoss-u5l
    @PlayLikeABoss-u5l 2 години тому

    The trade makes no sense for the Knicks because it doesnt make them title contenders. Wolves the trade makes sense if youre trying to get under the 2nd apron and Anthony Edwards doesnt like playing with KAT.

  • @nathanharrison2839
    @nathanharrison2839 3 години тому

    To me this was the rare time we’re the deal makes sense for both teams even though it was out of the clouds. The Knicks knew that they weren’t beating the Celtics with the current roster. This is a big risk but if it works they could be really good. Gotta love the NBA

  • @joshuablack8221
    @joshuablack8221 2 години тому

    Great trade for the Knicks 💯 Not so much for the Wolves unless they’re moving Rudy for some pieces 👀 Or they might be trading Randle for something else 🤔

  • @jacobcunningham6771
    @jacobcunningham6771 Годину тому

    So u are saying wolves got Randle and d aaaand a 1st for towns for the "3rd or fourth best center in the league "? Wolves stole this. Plus the saved money. Stfu

  • @vs777jes
    @vs777jes 2 години тому

    Why do the Wolves make this trade? Check out KAT's numbers in the first 3 games vs the Mavs in the WCC. Pathetic, not going to be a part of a championship team.

  • @farenzeks437
    @farenzeks437 Годину тому

    I told my homie (Knicks fan) the same shit, they just upgraded Zay & DDV to KAT & Bridges.. although the KAT & Thibs shit is odd 🤔

  • @eshakumar6982
    @eshakumar6982 55 хвилин тому

    I’m curious if Spotify will offer a variable versus fixed contract to Zach. I think is the biggest hurdle

  • @infamouswildcat11
    @infamouswildcat11 2 години тому

    Damn for a guy who had longer career in the league only due to his father being the coach/gm and the fact that he bounced around dozens of teams has this much confidence to have a mural of himself lol

  • @scottellis1292
    @scottellis1292 2 години тому

    Knicks fans dont like the faces Randle makes? Think hes a ball stopper? Have they ever watched KAT play before cuz they’re gonna hate him then

  • @eddiewilks4874
    @eddiewilks4874 3 години тому

    KAT is now being severely underrated divenchenzo???? Really… this is what we are doing