Griffin is such a dark horse in this industry. Their products are phenomenal. I have a HRT, DL5/7, and their new M4SD-L in jail. They've invested millions in tech for the customer. Stuff like robotic arms for their laser welds and Autospray. They're also finishing up construction on 60,000sqft manufacturing plant. With the whole DA debacle. People should realize how important getting a supressor from an actual manufacturer is. Not just a marketing company.
You nailed it what you said about DA. And all the other stuff as far as the quality is true. I didnt realize how much of a dark horse they were until i went to the hub in tucson. They have a whole line of griffin armament cans in there and the moment i picked one up and really got a good look i could immediatley tell the difference between theirs and their competitors. Griffin falls in my top 5 suppressor companies. Might even have to be number 1. LOVE griffin products.
Ya, I first heard their stuff at the Capitol armory event at the end of last year. I messaged the owner with some questions and answerd them all. Super honest and hardworking guy. It showed he really cares about making the best product possible for people. He's spent the years going the hard route of building a manufacturing complex rather than sub contracting out. When I contacted him initially with questions about their Dual-lok system; I had no idea we would strike it off like we did. I now have 5 GA cans in jail. They have some REALLY cool stuff coming too.
Hes a paramedic that saves lives on yhe daily. He clearly can shoot nasty good and put the work in. Works 7 days a week.. and understands loyalty. So go on .. tell me what makes you so special compared to him ill wait
@@user-hk9ny7qk9u no no no thats not how this works man. You can't go saying really hurtful shit to or about someone, and when theres a response you say relax. You dont understand how hard it is for some people brother. Not everyone is naturally thin or have the same schedule as you to get into a gym every single day. Im defending him because hes a really good friend. Hes been there for me in an emergency situation. My dog whos a familly member to me was terribly injured and he was there for me no questions asked. Thats one of MANY times i could rely on him. Hes a good person. And i know deep down comments like this can really hurt somebody. I dont like it. I dont stand for it. Im asking you respectfully and nicely to not do it again. If you knew this guy im tellin you youd love him like a brother and feel real shitty about it.
I'm in the process of building a MK18 Mod 0 simply because I like the old school look. The fact this suppressor can mount on a standard A2 flash hider is phenomenal. Definitely will help me save some coin.
Dude this is the PERFECT can for that. Its basically an NT4 on sterroids. Youll love it. I bout one last thursday and can not wait to get approved. By the way im selling my mod 0 complete upper for a STEAL. Im talkin aimpoint, kac rail, grip, the works.
Not quite sure what you mean. Im not too familiar with the rotex.. but if the rotex is hub threaded to take other mounts you can get a gate-lok mount from griffin to work with the suppressor
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial sadly it is not hub compatible, they have their own a2 flash hider qd attachment but it didn't work with my a2 flash hiders. Can use any other suppressor mount with it either . So I'm trying to see what everything is using on their a2 suppressors
@@edwardrivera640 all i know is this. The a2 needs to not be too long.. otherwise itll be touching the baffles. And the way the gatelok works is you need to have the two rings on the muzzle device and the gate locks on there. It goes off the flat of the brake and locks in the ring
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial i’ve got one on layaway right now, my local shop had the price flipped over and i look at and the price and it was done deal.
Guys. I’ve been searching of a birdcage designed suppressor that can work with extended p&w 14.5in birdcages. The fedbois have made it particularly difficult requiring the pin and weld. Do you have any ideas if this griffin works on really common extendo birdcages like the bcm?
Hmm solid question. I cant say for sure. Id suggest going to griffins contact us and asking them. They are really good at getting back to customers and FAST.
Griffin Armament says this can will work with any mil-spec style A2 flash hider. However, it might be best to contact them for more specifics regarding your flash hider...
griffin says it needs to work with nato spec bird cages, and the extended ones are probably not within that specification. it also says on their site that it does not work with bcm
I’ve been researching this exact thing. I have an extended a2 flash hider from KAK. It meets the dimensions OD wise. and the locking groove meets width and depth requirements as well. The caveat is that it doesn’t have the bearing surface ring around it at the correct length, similar to the length of a standard a2. The bearing surface is required for support inside the suppressor to maintain alignment. Also serves as a seal if I’m not mistaken. Hope this makes sense and helps you out.
So excited to get mine out of jail! I see this as the best 1st can for anyone. You learn a lot about what you want in future cans and you can let your buddies borrow it or throw it on any other guns because you don't have to shell out $100 for additional muzzle devices like with other suppressors.
If your gun is tuned right it shouldnt be an issue. My mk18 has a geissele super 42 buffer system in it matched with a raptor SD ported charging handle. It practically removes the gas.
Hi I’m the owner of the host rifle. I run a Radian SD charging handle, and am still tuning my Bootleg BCG to my ammunition. My set up is pretty gassy IMHO.
LOVE THIS VIDEO. i went with the surefire rc2 but might get a m4sd2 now. i need to get out more and shoot i live in AZ as well north side. i need more buddies with the same hobbies as me lol.
I got a Griffin blast shield and it really brings down the blast. Got an M4SDII in the works too. Ive heard that open-tine muzzle devices are bad for suppressors. You guys heard anything about this? I would think the opposite would be true.
Dont listen to the bs. Look at it like this. Lets say your suppressor with a brake lasts 60k before needing service. Using a flash hider or other shit it would need service in like 57k not really the biggest difference. As long as you use good materials in your suppressor it should bs able to handle just about anyrhign
@@tootiredtostop1606 hey you too. Any Questions you have or concerns with any products? Go ahead and give me a shout. I will tell you just about everything I know. I'm not like an expert or anything but I do have a fair share of knowledge to offer that might help.
Awesome video brother I just ordered the m4sd II tonight. What state you guys live in iam from Michigan? Would love to do some videos with you guys and do some training
@@TheGlock34man honestly id be lying if i didnt say its the greatest place in this country. Ive had the best times of my life out here. You should make the move while you still can
YES actually. Dude. Dont even get me started. I would say if i didnt have a daniel defense mk18 already their rifle would be my go to battle rifle. Its built with amazing materials. They have a unique look.. they perform perfectly. They have cool features like stock stoppers and shit like that. Absolute unit. I highly suggest it
What about a review on the muzzle device you have (Griffin Flash Comp)? There have been several different reviews, but they are all for the old versions.
Good Idea! Currently we are editing/working on our rattle can tutorial. That is the next video up. But! Luckily Mikey(filmer/editor) has the muzzle device and we can review it real soon for you. 😎🍻😎
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficialawesome! There are a lot of devices, but I think at least a comparison between a basic A2 would be valuable since the Flash Comp is supposed to be a blended muzzle device.
I think the price is fair. If you look at cgs cans, surefire, and many other of its competitors this is quite affordable. Especially for the quality, the sound suppression, and the INCREDIBLE customer service. With that being said, I'd LOVE to see the m4sd come down in price! Who wouldnt?
You can get the A2 for under $10. Compare that to other flash hiders that are compatible with suppressors you're saving a lot of money. Especially if you have more than 1 rifle.
U could just get an adjustable bolt from bootleg or rifle speed adjustable gas block u could have easily changed it on the fly my boy or oss suppresor lol
the whole point is that the rifle was already tuned for suppressed use, the bolt carrier was adjusted so we could film unsuppressed comparison footage. most guns that are tuned to be suppressor hosts stay suppressed so we did adjust it 'on the fly' as you say
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial I don’t know if you are familiar with the rifle speed gas blocks but dude there is nothing like them on the fucking planet even my POS adjustable gas block. It takes a little bit of pounds of pressure to adjust but I can adjust my rifle speed with the click of a finger like it’s nothing bro, and it’s so easy to adjust that you probably already if you had one you would have known what your settings would be adjusted to if that makes sense to you. I know that you are the gun God and everything but you probably don’t own as many firearms as I do then you can just change it on the fly with under a second suppressed or unsuppressed you know once you know how that gun runs the best and obviously you could put a heavy buffer in it as well Aunt, it which I know you know all of this stuff, but other people may not know
Yes. Avoid at all costs. Dead air has been outsourcing their entire product. They are getting shit materials and having a different company manufacture their suppressors. There is a MASSIVE amount of dead air sandmans and sierras in for service. Massive is an understatement. Almost all of them. If you want suggestions for 30 cal cans or suppressors in general just say the word. Ill give you suggestions and why.
Not exactly sure what youre asking. But mine is a m4sdii (second gen) and the baffles are the eco flow system. The gate lock doesnt go all the way through the can like the originals. The baffles are U shape cut.. like the keyhole style cone baffles. Hope this helps
Another thing to add. Both me and demo are running the same muzzle device. It works best fro suppression. Its called the griffin armament flash comp. Its a longer brake than the others but it breaks down gasses better than any of the others. Cant go wrong with that.
Griffin is such a dark horse in this industry. Their products are phenomenal. I have a HRT, DL5/7, and their new M4SD-L in jail. They've invested millions in tech for the customer. Stuff like robotic arms for their laser welds and Autospray. They're also finishing up construction on 60,000sqft manufacturing plant. With the whole DA debacle. People should realize how important getting a supressor from an actual manufacturer is. Not just a marketing company.
You nailed it what you said about DA. And all the other stuff as far as the quality is true. I didnt realize how much of a dark horse they were until i went to the hub in tucson. They have a whole line of griffin armament cans in there and the moment i picked one up and really got a good look i could immediatley tell the difference between theirs and their competitors. Griffin falls in my top 5 suppressor companies. Might even have to be number 1. LOVE griffin products.
Ya, I first heard their stuff at the Capitol armory event at the end of last year. I messaged the owner with some questions and answerd them all. Super honest and hardworking guy. It showed he really cares about making the best product possible for people. He's spent the years going the hard route of building a manufacturing complex rather than sub contracting out. When I contacted him initially with questions about their Dual-lok system; I had no idea we would strike it off like we did. I now have 5 GA cans in jail. They have some REALLY cool stuff coming too.
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial hey bud. The owner of GA would like to get in touch with you. You should add a contact email to your channel.
@@goawaybaizuo the email is Elementdbm@gmail.com
Have you received your m4sd-l yet? What are your thoughts? I’m looking at that vs m4sd-k as my first can.
Meal team 6 team intro......🍟
Hes a paramedic that saves lives on yhe daily. He clearly can shoot nasty good and put the work in. Works 7 days a week.. and understands loyalty. So go on .. tell me what makes you so special compared to him ill wait
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial 🤣 Relax you act like he’s your girlfriend. It’s a joke like your response….
@@user-hk9ny7qk9u no no no thats not how this works man. You can't go saying really hurtful shit to or about someone, and when theres a response you say relax. You dont understand how hard it is for some people brother. Not everyone is naturally thin or have the same schedule as you to get into a gym every single day. Im defending him because hes a really good friend. Hes been there for me in an emergency situation. My dog whos a familly member to me was terribly injured and he was there for me no questions asked. Thats one of MANY times i could rely on him. Hes a good person. And i know deep down comments like this can really hurt somebody. I dont like it. I dont stand for it. Im asking you respectfully and nicely to not do it again. If you knew this guy im tellin you youd love him like a brother and feel real shitty about it.
Honestly griffin is a very underrated suppressor company.
STRONGLY agree. One of the best suppressor companies in the game if you ask me
I'm in the process of building a MK18 Mod 0 simply because I like the old school look. The fact this suppressor can mount on a standard A2 flash hider is phenomenal. Definitely will help me save some coin.
Dude this is the PERFECT can for that. Its basically an NT4 on sterroids. Youll love it. I bout one last thursday and can not wait to get approved. By the way im selling my mod 0 complete upper for a STEAL. Im talkin aimpoint, kac rail, grip, the works.
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial How much for that complete upper and how many rounds through it?
@@Knight_of_the_Old_Code if not then DM me on insta @Southwestgunner.v2
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial Just texted you...
Will these gate lok muzzles work on the b&t rotex x?
Not quite sure what you mean. Im not too familiar with the rotex.. but if the rotex is hub threaded to take other mounts you can get a gate-lok mount from griffin to work with the suppressor
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial sadly it is not hub compatible, they have their own a2 flash hider qd attachment but it didn't work with my a2 flash hiders. Can use any other suppressor mount with it either . So I'm trying to see what everything is using on their a2 suppressors
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial so I'm curious if the gate lock flash hider will work
@@edwardrivera640 all i know is this. The a2 needs to not be too long.. otherwise itll be touching the baffles. And the way the gatelok works is you need to have the two rings on the muzzle device and the gate locks on there. It goes off the flat of the brake and locks in the ring
@@edwardrivera640 I'm going to post a short in a few minutes showing it
to hard to tell a difference for me i’ll take one now
@@nickpool3943 bro to the human ear. Its NUTS. I bought an m4sd immediatley after this video
@@nickpool3943 go look at my shorts. Before and after unsuppressed to suppressed
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial i’ve got one on layaway right now, my local shop had the price flipped over and i look at and the price and it was done deal.
@@nickpool3943 good shit. I got the brand new griffin A2S in fde coming anyday now itll show up. Can not wait
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial will be waiting for that review!
Guys. I’ve been searching of a birdcage designed suppressor that can work with extended p&w 14.5in birdcages. The fedbois have made it particularly difficult requiring the pin and weld. Do you have any ideas if this griffin works on really common extendo birdcages like the bcm?
Hmm solid question. I cant say for sure. Id suggest going to griffins contact us and asking them. They are really good at getting back to customers and FAST.
Griffin Armament says this can will work with any mil-spec style A2 flash hider. However, it might be best to contact them for more specifics regarding your flash hider...
Someone said it will not work with extended a2 devices.
griffin says it needs to work with nato spec bird cages, and the extended ones are probably not within that specification. it also says on their site that it does not work with bcm
I’ve been researching this exact thing. I have an extended a2 flash hider from KAK. It meets the dimensions OD wise. and the locking groove meets width and depth requirements as well. The caveat is that it doesn’t have the bearing surface ring around it at the correct length, similar to the length of a standard a2.
The bearing surface is required for support inside the suppressor to maintain alignment. Also serves as a seal if I’m not mistaken. Hope this makes sense and helps you out.
So excited to get mine out of jail! I see this as the best 1st can for anyone.
You learn a lot about what you want in future cans and you can let your buddies borrow it or throw it on any other guns because you don't have to shell out $100 for additional muzzle devices like with other suppressors.
How’s the gas in the face on a DI short barrel?
If your gun is tuned right it shouldnt be an issue. My mk18 has a geissele super 42 buffer system in it matched with a raptor SD ported charging handle. It practically removes the gas.
Hi I’m the owner of the host rifle. I run a Radian SD charging handle, and am still tuning my Bootleg BCG to my ammunition. My set up is pretty gassy IMHO.
LOVE THIS VIDEO. i went with the surefire rc2 but might get a m4sd2 now. i need to get out more and shoot i live in AZ as well north side. i need more buddies with the same hobbies as me lol.
Do you have instagram?
i do @@SouthWestGunnerOfficial
I got a Griffin blast shield and it really brings down the blast. Got an M4SDII in the works too.
Ive heard that open-tine muzzle devices are bad for suppressors. You guys heard anything about this? I would think the opposite would be true.
Dont listen to the bs. Look at it like this. Lets say your suppressor with a brake lasts 60k before needing service. Using a flash hider or other shit it would need service in like 57k not really the biggest difference. As long as you use good materials in your suppressor it should bs able to handle just about anyrhign
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial That's what I figured. Stay safe guys.
@@tootiredtostop1606 hey you too. Any Questions you have or concerns with any products? Go ahead and give me a shout. I will tell you just about everything I know. I'm not like an expert or anything but I do have a fair share of knowledge to offer that might help.
You went the same route I did! Hope my can is approved soon
@@WearilyCorrect youre going to love it
Have a 30sd/k and it performs nicely from my limited experience with suppressors.
Thats a great can! My buddy has one. Absolute tank. Love griffin armament
Awesome video brother I just ordered the m4sd II tonight. What state you guys live in iam from Michigan? Would love to do some videos with you guys and do some training
Arizona! Best place on earth. If you fly out i will take you to the ammo spot to load up and we will go train
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial awesome would love to live in Arizona
@@TheGlock34man honestly id be lying if i didnt say its the greatest place in this country. Ive had the best times of my life out here. You should make the move while you still can
ARIZONA ALWAYS FUN TIMES HERE !
FACTS!
Does your M4SD baffles have a "U" shaped groove that runs from the front to rear of the suppressor?
Is yours mod 3 or 4?
This is a m4sd ii
It has a ring before the baffles that have holes going around. Then the baffles are U shaped cones.
It’s called clipped baffles. You didn’t get a baffle strike bro.
You had any experience with their rifles? Looking at a MK2 with supressor
YES actually. Dude. Dont even get me started. I would say if i didnt have a daniel defense mk18 already their rifle would be my go to battle rifle. Its built with amazing materials. They have a unique look.. they perform perfectly. They have cool features like stock stoppers and shit like that. Absolute unit. I highly suggest it
What about a review on the muzzle device you have (Griffin Flash Comp)? There have been several different reviews, but they are all for the old versions.
Good Idea! Currently we are editing/working on our rattle can tutorial. That is the next video up. But! Luckily Mikey(filmer/editor) has the muzzle device and we can review it real soon for you. 😎🍻😎
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficialawesome! There are a lot of devices, but I think at least a comparison between a basic A2 would be valuable since the Flash Comp is supposed to be a blended muzzle device.
What did you guys think of the video? I think the editing came out pretty well on this one.
What does that X mean?
I heard if you buy all the merch tfd might tell you
I like the idea of just being able to use an A2, but they want a little too much for the can, imho.
I think the price is fair. If you look at cgs cans, surefire, and many other of its competitors this is quite affordable. Especially for the quality, the sound suppression, and the INCREDIBLE customer service. With that being said, I'd LOVE to see the m4sd come down in price! Who wouldnt?
You can get the A2 for under $10. Compare that to other flash hiders that are compatible with suppressors you're saving a lot of money. Especially if you have more than 1 rifle.
@@thetacticalpuertoricananother strong point
The Griffin M4SD2 does come with a comp included if that helps.
I'm strongly considering this can, I love my rc2 but if I want to suppress all my rifles I'm spending just as much in muzzle devices
THIS. Im buying one when i got a little extra spending cash
Is that Jonah Hill from war dogs?
😂 dude
He’s wearing the earmor 50$ knockoff muffs
Yup! They are awesome. I got a pair. Couldn't be happier
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U could just get an adjustable bolt from bootleg or rifle speed adjustable gas block u could have easily changed it on the fly my boy or oss suppresor lol
the whole point is that the rifle was already tuned for suppressed use, the bolt carrier was adjusted so we could film unsuppressed comparison footage. most guns that are tuned to be suppressor hosts stay suppressed so we did adjust it 'on the fly' as you say
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial I don’t know if you are familiar with the rifle speed gas blocks but dude there is nothing like them on the fucking planet even my POS adjustable gas block. It takes a little bit of pounds of pressure to adjust but I can adjust my rifle speed with the click of a finger like it’s nothing bro, and it’s so easy to adjust that you probably already if you had one you would have known what your settings would be adjusted to if that makes sense to you. I know that you are the gun God and everything but you probably don’t own as many firearms as I do then you can just change it on the fly with under a second suppressed or unsuppressed you know once you know how that gun runs the best and obviously you could put a heavy buffer in it as well Aunt, it which I know you know all of this stuff, but other people may not know
@@dannypierce9528 rifle speed gas block huh.. ill have to check that out. Any and all information is welcome here. Thank you for that
Wait the sandman is shitty?
Yes. Avoid at all costs. Dead air has been outsourcing their entire product. They are getting shit materials and having a different company manufacture their suppressors. There is a MASSIVE amount of dead air sandmans and sierras in for service. Massive is an understatement. Almost all of them. If you want suggestions for 30 cal cans or suppressors in general just say the word. Ill give you suggestions and why.
@@SouthWestGunnerOfficial😅 Basically ever since they stoped having Kgm make there cans it's all gone down hill.
@@HersheyRoseX yeah its a wrap for them
Loud af still 😂
556 will ALWAYS be loud. But the m4sd is stupid quiet. You should see it in person. A camera will do it no justice
Does your M4SD baffles have a "U" shaped groove that runs from the front to rear of the suppressor?
Is yours mod 3 or 4?
Not exactly sure what youre asking. But mine is a m4sdii (second gen) and the baffles are the eco flow system. The gate lock doesnt go all the way through the can like the originals. The baffles are U shape cut.. like the keyhole style cone baffles. Hope this helps
Another thing to add. Both me and demo are running the same muzzle device. It works best fro suppression. Its called the griffin armament flash comp. Its a longer brake than the others but it breaks down gasses better than any of the others. Cant go wrong with that.