*Degenerate Phoenix,* Kudos for noticing the OBVIOUS details that this is a Shiller that speaks about random stuff and, switching off topics midway, misleading information and desperately tries to sound informed whilst adding nothing to these so called: Details"
Why there is no splash ? Because if it exists, every Kaminoan cloners, Clones, Droids, Jedis, Sith, and Aliens will try to see who can make the biggest splash !
one of the only reasons im plaing the 2017 is because anakin sometimes spawns saying: "I dont like sand, It's rough, coarase and irritating and it gets everywhere"
Also, if you run around as Anakin with whoever is playing Obi Wan (or vice versa) the characters actually talk to each other like Anakin and Obi Wan would
I kinda prefer the old map, there’s something about it that just feels more like Kamino and gives me more nostalgia. Maybe the blue tint in the new BF2 makes it feel different.
Bf2 had the best layout because it was made for outdoor pvp. Then 2019 the best for graphics and cover. But it’s made small and very symmetrical because it’s the center of the mode it was made for the wave defense so it was made to be even. And except for slippery edges.
I felt that Battlefront 2004 had such phenomenal gameplay. So immersive, you feel like one person in an army. Flyable vehicles, can hop in and out at will, large unite count, instant action, large maps. Now THAT was Star Wars! Such a classic game even today.
The new battlefront is still dissapointing. A fan could make a better game if he had the money, its just irritating on the lack of maps, game modes, ect. It's fun to play sometimes but still overall a disappointment, just like bfv
There is a splash! 5:50 . He just edited it out all the other times. Not trying to ruin his splash dreams. Really really nice vid tho! watched the vid twice!
For me: 04: By far my favorite maps of the series, especially Bespin Platforms, Tatooine Dune Sea, and Rhen Var Citadel. I also think having different species like the Tusken Raiders and the Gungans added a lot to the immersion of the game. 05 had it for a few maps but the EAfront games don't have it at all, which I personally find to be disappointing. The second most basic of the four we have thus far, but it doesn't fall into the trap that games like Dragon Age: Origins have. This trap being that 04 is a good concept with lots of room for improvement, which brings me to ... 05: Favorite game mode with Galactic Conquest and my favorite core idea: the unfettered unashamed single player/split screen power fantasy. 05 takes the overpowered nature of Force users and makes you feel as powerful, even when you're just a lowly front line grunt. The space combat is great (one of the areas where I think it holds up), especially boarding the enemy's hangar with a transport and sabotaging their systems. Granted I did grow up with BF2 like many people did, but even now I still return to it from time to time. One of the absolute crowning achievements from the Golden Age of Star Wars games. 15: 17 but worse in every way. The only thing I liked about this game was the direction they took with the heroes, and how they all played and felt distinct. It did also provide a template or 17 to vastly improve upon, so credit where credit is due there. 17: The most conflicting one for me. It has the best gunplay in the series without a shadow of a doubt and I think the best multiplayer. I also think the heroes in EAfront 2 are by far the best in the series, especially over the 2005 heroes. This game has had a No Man's Sky level of redemption throughout the years; it is by no means the shameless, hollow, and transparent cash grab that it was originally designed to be. However, I feel as though its important to remember this game's past. It is unfortunately a game of its time, and while the fallout from the outrage has long since settled, and the game is not what it originally was, I'm still left feeling conflicted about it. I don't find it as easily to dive into this one and lose all track of time as it is in the original Battlefront 2, but that could very well just be nostalgia. My personal list is 05 > 04 > 17 > 15. Nostalgia does play a role in that ranking, as does my personal thoughts on EAfront 2 as a product of its time, but that's just my opinion.
I can't choose between 2005 and 2019. The 2005 definitely has a better atmosphere to it but also has a lot of empty room, which I'm not a fan of. The 2019 map is much more detailed given the space it takes up, but feels way too bright and cartoony.
Did everyone just forget how in the original you could fly ships around and air strike dudes on the ground? Like the Kashyyyk islands map where you could fly a bomber around and carpet bomb people? So fuckin cool
You destroy those life supports things in 2005 as part of the campaign or defend them whichever one it is you’ll fail or win the mission depending on what happens. @Bombastic
Yeah, my frustrations are about how much more the game can be, but compared to the old ones is just so much better in basic aspects like gameplay and art direction.
Gabagu you are very smart mane the nostalgia is making these neck beards rage against the ea Star Wars we need to stop these damn man children from destroying a good game
I've only played battlefront 1 and 2 (originals) and I'd say 2, though I remember 1 had more air troops on ground maps which was awesome. But then 2 had jedi and sith, so that trumps it, but they are both great games.
I like BF2Cs Kamino map the most. Theres a platform on the Rebel/Clone side depending on what Era you are playing in that looks directly into the middle platform where all the action happens. And if you only play offline like I did when I was younger, you can just sit there and snipe all game without any interruptions whatsoever
I would really go for the original bf1 and 1 because if the movements were unrealistic but the fast movement and very simple and yet smoother running simulations just makes the combat so simple and just you can enjoy the game, like after school wanting to relax
I like to use a droideka as a shield. In battlefront I. They can't shoot u when ur right in front of them. So I use their bubble as my shield. And take out the vulnerable droids behind it while I wait for the shield to turn off and then destroy the droideka
Favorite map is 2005 BF2 because it was the better of the 2 Battlefront Games, the other being the 2004 one. That crap they put out in 2015 and 2017 didn't count.
I believe during the Clone Wars TV show when Fives is venturing around the city it is shown that the pillars do have ladders on them. It would kinda make sense because all the cadets would be like you and just slide and/or walk off for no reason.
That doesn't look like a normal pillar, looks like it has slots for records or such for storing important information. Maybe it was suppose to be for that?
Number 10. There are turrets throughout the map in the first two. But the new battlefront there aren’t any spread out,like the old ones. So you can’t just shoot someone clear across the map with turrets lol . Which I think th turrets were a nice addiction to kamino
Multiple fun facts on kamino: It has no core, which means it’s ocean has no bottom. There is a giant ocean monster living in the water, that’s why you don’t want to fall in.
I never thought of the Kaminoans cloning themselves. This would explain why they are always so calm during bad situations because they are already prepared to keep their species going.
I love starwars so much it's a huge part of my life every sense I was little I remember episode 1 2 3 and me and my mom watched the originals also but I grew up with the prequels which I'm happy for that I have. Massive starwars collection
I gotta choose 2004, I had fond memories of playing as the droids and telling everyone to stay at one command post and wait until the Clones began to surround us. It was like a reverse invasion and there would be moments where I couldn’t spawn because we had no command posts.
What sucked about the Kamino map in the original Battlefront 1. If you watch the preview of the map when you are about to select Kamino, you can clearly see Jedi Starfighters and droid fighers flying around and landing/taking off of the platforms. But when you play the actual map, they are not there, which means at some point in Kamino's development, you were going to be able to fly around kamino, similar to Bespin: Platforms.
2:26 nothing happened because it is just a REG match, under the "rise of the empire" campaign it works EDIT: 2:44 OH! HE GOT IT! ANOTHER EDIT:XD WOW! how did this ever get any likes?
I think for its time. The old battlefront 2 is the best. Obviously playing the new updated version in 2020 is amazing and that what i spend my time doing but all the different things you used to be able to do in 2005 you would expect endless game modes and "nothing to could make it better" type of games to come out today but companies just wanna milk our wallets instead.
In Battlefront 2004 there really is a splash when you hit the water. With the editing you have removed it (I don't know if on purpose), but you can see in the video in 5:51 how the clone hit the water and there is a splash
Small error, you said Old Battlefront II had only one interior command post, but there are two. Old Battlefront II has 1 command post on each side that is indoors, 1 command post on the high ground opposite of the indoor command post, and a forward base for each side. Perfectly Balanced, yadda yadda, you know the rest.
Those pillars actually have ladders on them I think, I seem to remember them from the clone wars when fives was getting out of the distraction ship and coming back.
One thing that disturbs me about the droidekas, yes we dont want them being OP thats fine, but a jedi's lightsaber walks up and cuts straight through the shield I call bullshit, most jedi fled when the shield came on they knew there was no way to get into it, I think they should go back to the way it used to be
The reasons why the flying things are well flying Is because in the clone wars cartoon series the main separatist force came from the water from debris of the space battle above
Do you believe the Kaminoan's are up to something sneaky? 🧐
First
Tell orion i said hi okay?
Ask Orion if he's ever been to yavin 3
I bf2 2019 the best
The battle is just like the simulations...
Oh wait...
IT IS A SIMULATION! THIS MAP DOESN'T EXIST! IT IS A KAMINOAN TRICK! SAVE YOURSELF!
"This is what happens when you destroy all the clone life support consols"
"We lost control of a command post..."
Yes, the first one sucks
I was hoping he would comment on it or at least someone would point it out. You sir have my seal of approval.
@@carbon4482 Nah.
Wait in story mode I think you blow this stuff up and everything explodes or something. Edit I just watched literally one second ahead
DBZFAN2456 enemy forces have captured the command post
"Let's talk about the heroes for each version of the map"
*Proceeds to only talk about BF1 Heroes*
*Degenerate Phoenix,*
Kudos for noticing the OBVIOUS details that this is a Shiller that speaks about random stuff and, switching off topics midway, misleading information and desperately tries to sound informed whilst adding nothing to these so called: Details"
@@Colonel-Cornelius-CornJulio- Not to mention his god awful sense of "humor".
CornJulio Polio Why are you two watching the video?
@@Couch_Banana מה הבהיה שלך
@@yehoshuagoldstein6887- First of all, that's not how you spell "בעיה". Secondly, that was just my opinion that his humor is bad.
But no one can beat the simulations.
You said it brother
@@yungtoasterbath3652 yes now with two of us we shouldn't be able to miss General Kenobi with the AT-TEs.
@@commandosev no we still miss
@@commandosev Weird thing is Commander Cody died on Kamino, hating the stormtroopers
@@squidking762 which one because I feel alive right now.
Each Battlefront is great in their own way. I prefer the maps and game modes in the old Battlefronts, but I like the gunplay more in the new one.
The old one was just flat
@@batowner1 nostalgia is strong.
The Gunplay is definitely better
My dude, get the Battlefront II conversion mod if you’re on pc
The new one sucks why should I pay for everything ??
Why there is no splash ?
Because if it exists, every Kaminoan cloners, Clones, Droids, Jedis, Sith, and Aliens will try to see who can make the biggest splash !
Ha
Battlefront 2004 - 2005 why? Because have galactic conquest 👍
Yes conquest was the best
Now is capital supremacy
Leon Scott Kennedy they all have their own form of Galactic Conquest.
Yankee Force Studios no they don’t. Not the new one.
Federico Tresso Capital Supremacy is awful...
Kamino 2005: we are the most detailed.
Kamino 2017 bird whales:
*AM I A JOKE TO YOU?*
At no point did he say that 2005 had the most detail. This is such a pointless comment.
I can barely understand this, and I'm not a young kid on UA-cam not understanding things.
one of the only reasons im plaing the 2017 is because anakin sometimes spawns saying:
"I dont like sand, It's rough, coarase and irritating and it gets everywhere"
Wait really?
yes that was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
Red Bepis I used to only play as Yoda... I think I have a new main.
I only play now because Obi-Wan says hello there as an emote so I can spam it😍
Also, if you run around as Anakin with whoever is playing Obi Wan (or vice versa) the characters actually talk to each other like Anakin and Obi Wan would
Me: destroys all clone life support consoles
Clones: we’ve lost control of a command post
I kinda prefer the old map, there’s something about it that just feels more like Kamino and gives me more nostalgia. Maybe the blue tint in the new BF2 makes it feel different.
Bf2 had the best layout because it was made for outdoor pvp.
Then 2019 the best for graphics and cover.
But it’s made small and very symmetrical because it’s the center of the mode it was made for the wave defense so it was made to be even.
And except for slippery edges.
I felt that Battlefront 2004 had such phenomenal gameplay. So immersive, you feel like one person in an army. Flyable vehicles, can hop in and out at will, large unite count, instant action, large maps. Now THAT was Star Wars! Such a classic game even today.
On all levels except grafic, 2005 is the absolute best
Very correct
No, gameplay wise its rubbish
@@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613 mr. Spanish Inquisitor, we have a confession of heresy over here!
@@user-ft3jq5vi2l Ohhh no spare me, SPAAAAAAARE ME
Wait, but do you really seriously believe 2005 is rubbish?
I gotta choose the one I grew up with.... The first Battlefront II
TurTleguy123r that ones literally ass if you said battlefront 1 I would understand but the 2nd one is boring
@@CoorsBanquetChief how so?
TurTleguy123r it’s literally bland all the bots just fall off the map it’s a choir to walk the map and get the command posts and it’s just boring
@@CoorsBanquetChief I fail to see it as boring. I guess it wasn't for everyone.
The new battlefront is still dissapointing. A fan could make a better game if he had the money, its just irritating on the lack of maps, game modes, ect. It's fun to play sometimes but still overall a disappointment, just like bfv
"does this galaxy even have a sun"
w a t
EA battle fronts look amazing, but they're not as fun as the originals.
Your not fun suck it noob
@@brandonbosworth1829 Hey fuck face it's his opinion ok? he ain't a noob because he likes something you don't captain austimo.
@@dutchvanderlinde5218 and noob is a new person so an opinion about which is funner has no information about how recent he started
@@jtc6366 yeah ik and idc
Actually play the originals then
As much shit as I talk about SWBF2 EA with my friends it's actually pretty fun 👍 Same with the old ones... 15 years ago, where has the time gone? 😂
Broken...but still fun.
I love battlefront but the lack of water splashes means I can't play anymore
The original Battlefront 2 is one of the best games of all time
The Lytz Hell yeah!
The new one no doubt beats all the. Soo you cheesy slugs need to stop and see new one way way better but yes
@@brandonbosworth1829 I would follow your insightful words of wisdom If I could understand what you were even saying
@@brandonbosworth1829 nah old one is always better and will always be better than these shitty ea star wars games
Battlefront 2004 - Best Maps
Battlefront 2 2005 - Best Game
Battlefront 2 2017 - Best Gameplay
There is a splash! 5:50 . He just edited it out all the other times. Not trying to ruin his splash dreams. Really really nice vid tho! watched the vid twice!
it's not a splash. It's rain effects, I'm pretty sure.
Than why isn't that anywhere else?
It the health pack you drop when you die
No splash. Played this game way too much. Would've noticed
Really? Oh, it looked like a splash anyway XD. But thx for saying.
For me:
04: By far my favorite maps of the series, especially Bespin Platforms, Tatooine Dune Sea, and Rhen Var Citadel. I also think having different species like the Tusken Raiders and the Gungans added a lot to the immersion of the game. 05 had it for a few maps but the EAfront games don't have it at all, which I personally find to be disappointing. The second most basic of the four we have thus far, but it doesn't fall into the trap that games like Dragon Age: Origins have. This trap being that 04 is a good concept with lots of room for improvement, which brings me to ...
05: Favorite game mode with Galactic Conquest and my favorite core idea: the unfettered unashamed single player/split screen power fantasy. 05 takes the overpowered nature of Force users and makes you feel as powerful, even when you're just a lowly front line grunt. The space combat is great (one of the areas where I think it holds up), especially boarding the enemy's hangar with a transport and sabotaging their systems. Granted I did grow up with BF2 like many people did, but even now I still return to it from time to time. One of the absolute crowning achievements from the Golden Age of Star Wars games.
15: 17 but worse in every way. The only thing I liked about this game was the direction they took with the heroes, and how they all played and felt distinct. It did also provide a template or 17 to vastly improve upon, so credit where credit is due there.
17: The most conflicting one for me. It has the best gunplay in the series without a shadow of a doubt and I think the best multiplayer. I also think the heroes in EAfront 2 are by far the best in the series, especially over the 2005 heroes. This game has had a No Man's Sky level of redemption throughout the years; it is by no means the shameless, hollow, and transparent cash grab that it was originally designed to be. However, I feel as though its important to remember this game's past. It is unfortunately a game of its time, and while the fallout from the outrage has long since settled, and the game is not what it originally was, I'm still left feeling conflicted about it. I don't find it as easily to dive into this one and lose all track of time as it is in the original Battlefront 2, but that could very well just be nostalgia.
My personal list is 05 > 04 > 17 > 15. Nostalgia does play a role in that ranking, as does my personal thoughts on EAfront 2 as a product of its time, but that's just my opinion.
0:21 the best part of the show
I can't choose between 2005 and 2019. The 2005 definitely has a better atmosphere to it but also has a lot of empty room, which I'm not a fan of. The 2019 map is much more detailed given the space it takes up, but feels way too bright and cartoony.
Darien West lol what? What are you smoking? How does the new one look bright and cartoony?
What are you smoking? How does the new one NOT look bright and cartoony?
Darien West nigga you high
Did everyone just forget how in the original you could fly ships around and air strike dudes on the ground? Like the Kashyyyk islands map where you could fly a bomber around and carpet bomb people? So fuckin cool
You destroy those life supports things in 2005 as part of the campaign or defend them whichever one it is you’ll fail or win the mission depending on what happens. @Bombastic
Putting aside how frustrating the new one can get (at least for me), I still personally think it's the best!
Yeah, my frustrations are about how much more the game can be, but compared to the old ones is just so much better in basic aspects like gameplay and art direction.
Gabagu you are very smart mane the nostalgia is making these neck beards rage against the ea Star Wars we need to stop these damn man children from destroying a good game
*It's treason, then.*
DAKARIJOSH STUDIOS or people just have different opinions than you? Also it took the new battlefront a year and a half to actually be good but ok🤷♂️
I work outdoors and yes, I have seen clouds that are that black. Usually about 5 seconds before a HUGE downpour.
Never a boring moment in your videos. I personally love the rapid fire commentary!!
I've only played battlefront 1 and 2 (originals) and I'd say 2, though I remember 1 had more air troops on ground maps which was awesome. But then 2 had jedi and sith, so that trumps it, but they are both great games.
I like it when you go on those wild tangents and let your imagination run wild
"Hey dude, lets play Battlefront 2!" "Ok, which one?" :D
I like BF2Cs Kamino map the most. Theres a platform on the Rebel/Clone side depending on what Era you are playing in that looks directly into the middle platform where all the action happens. And if you only play offline like I did when I was younger, you can just sit there and snipe all game without any interruptions whatsoever
I have been looking forward to this
kamino maps gives me shivers thx to the hours i spent completing the battlefront 2 campaign
I would really go for the original bf1 and 1 because if the movements were unrealistic but the fast movement and very simple and yet smoother running simulations just makes the combat so simple and just you can enjoy the game, like after school wanting to relax
When I'm talking about conspiracies I know who to call...
This makes me wanna go and play 2005 Battlefront.
I like to use a droideka as a shield. In battlefront I. They can't shoot u when ur right in front of them. So I use their bubble as my shield. And take out the vulnerable droids behind it while I wait for the shield to turn off and then destroy the droideka
That end Theory is GOLD!!!!
Favorite map is 2005 BF2 because it was the better of the 2 Battlefront Games, the other being the 2004 one. That crap they put out in 2015 and 2017 didn't count.
Your loss lmao
I remember when I was a kid and I played Star Wars Battlefront from 2004 and I was thinking "Why the water doesen't splash when I fall in it?"
Keep doing vids like this
Wow Bombastic is scary hyped on this one
I think Star Wars Theory should really make a fanfic about that Kaminoan Army thing
Kamino was way larger in the second game also was playable in both eras
I love these realistic and hilarious videos!😆
3:03 my brain while doing maths because I’m terrible at it
The Kaminoans are cloning Wookies! Why? Obviously it's for the Droid attack on the Wookies.
Honestly, the new bf2 is better in every way. However bf2 1 is more nostalgic for me
Damn, i really couldn't get into it. Felt too artificial for me and the matches were such clusterfucks lol ...style over substance i guess.
I believe during the Clone Wars TV show when Fives is venturing around the city it is shown that the pillars do have ladders on them. It would kinda make sense because all the cadets would be like you and just slide and/or walk off for no reason.
That doesn't look like a normal pillar, looks like it has slots for records or such for storing important information. Maybe it was suppose to be for that?
Number 10. There are turrets throughout the map in the first two. But the new battlefront there aren’t any spread out,like the old ones. So you can’t just shoot someone clear across the map with turrets lol . Which I think th turrets were a nice addiction to kamino
Multiple fun facts on kamino:
It has no core, which means it’s ocean has no bottom.
There is a giant ocean monster living in the water, that’s why you don’t want to fall in.
I never thought of the Kaminoans cloning themselves. This would explain why they are always so calm during bad situations because they are already prepared to keep their species going.
Andrew trying Ryan Higa style rant: wild
That mission against the clones in old bf was so hard but boba fett was so fun to play as
Oh that was easy to me. Also depend if you play on hard or easy difficulty. I think desactivating the droid factory was harder.
When I was a kid, I thought Qui-Gon’s and Obi-Wan’s breathing apparatuses were there lightsabers.
That Kamino theory is a good idea
I honestly don’t really like the battlefront 2017 Kamino especially in HvV. Getting pushed of the map by Luke is probably the worst thing I experience
I love starwars so much it's a huge part of my life every sense I was little I remember episode 1 2 3 and me and my mom watched the originals also but I grew up with the prequels which I'm happy for that I have. Massive starwars collection
If the old battlefront just got remastered it would be WAYY better than the new ones
1:20 I believe those are called Bacta Tanks, but I could be wrong.
Battlefront 2 (2005) in my opinion. Heroes were monsters, vehicles were amazing, modes were one of a kind to me
Am I the only one that misses going prone in battlefront 1? Something small, but I liked the option.
Also, telling NPCs what to do like stay or go or follow.
great video man! deserves more views
more splashes, and rants, needed.
Star Wars has come a long way
What is the background music does anyone know
Andrew you have BOMBASTIC imagination and very good theory with the Kaminoan's
The truth is that the water is hot sand. Character explodes before they can hit it and Anakin has never been on the plante!!!’
Kamino water slide simulator this needs to happen!
I gotta choose 2004, I had fond memories of playing as the droids and telling everyone to stay at one command post and wait until the Clones began to surround us. It was like a reverse invasion and there would be moments where I couldn’t spawn because we had no command posts.
I do remember it being easier to be the last man standing in the 2004 version.
The water splashes in both original Battlefronts.
Bombastic: Have you ever seen a cloud that is this black.
Me: Yes. I went camping.
The pole is for Rancor dancing...
Kamino + Ocean =
*Kaminocean*
They were good in their day but dated now.. Battlefront2 2019 wins
All kamino maps: not splashing
Vader: "I find you're lack of splash disturbing"
What sucked about the Kamino map in the original Battlefront 1. If you watch the preview of the map when you are about to select Kamino, you can clearly see Jedi Starfighters and droid fighers flying around and landing/taking off of the platforms. But when you play the actual map, they are not there, which means at some point in Kamino's development, you were going to be able to fly around kamino, similar to Bespin: Platforms.
The new BF2 Kamino is based off the huge separatist invasion of Kamino. Except it wasn't exactly a rainy day during that
Kaminoans actually do clone them selves that’s how they have survived this long their planet wasn’t always covered in water
2:26 nothing happened because it is just a REG match, under the "rise of the empire" campaign it works
EDIT: 2:44 OH! HE GOT IT!
ANOTHER EDIT:XD WOW! how did this ever get any likes?
We've lost control of a command post.
What
4:30 I believe there are two posts indoors
I think for its time. The old battlefront 2 is the best. Obviously playing the new updated version in 2020 is amazing and that what i spend my time doing but all the different things you used to be able to do in 2005 you would expect endless game modes and "nothing to could make it better" type of games to come out today but companies just wanna milk our wallets instead.
Man i really miss the old ones
In Battlefront 2004 there really is a splash when you hit the water. With the editing you have removed it (I don't know if on purpose), but you can see in the video in 5:51 how the clone hit the water and there is a splash
you really gotta watch for those wrist rockets
The things on Kamino do explode but in the campaign
At 5:40 there’s a splash it’s like 2 seconds delayed but still a splash and slow it down
11:01 don’t ya just hate it when you have to reload your lightsaber?
the sniper guy haves a robot that explodes and make super big dad ass shoots
in the first one
Small error, you said Old Battlefront II had only one interior command post, but there are two.
Old Battlefront II has 1 command post on each side that is indoors, 1 command post on the high ground opposite of the indoor command post, and a forward base for each side.
Perfectly Balanced, yadda yadda, you know the rest.
I agree with you about the splashes I’m disappointed with it being so unrealistic. Especially the Trident droids
Those pillars actually have ladders on them I think, I seem to remember them from the clone wars when fives was getting out of the distraction ship and coming back.
Is it just me or the Battlefront in 2005 was like rlly fun more more realistic back then but now it just looks like OG tomb raider
One thing that disturbs me about the droidekas, yes we dont want them being OP thats fine, but a jedi's lightsaber walks up and cuts straight through the shield I call bullshit, most jedi fled when the shield came on they knew there was no way to get into it, I think they should go back to the way it used to be
The reasons why the flying things are well flying Is because in the clone wars cartoon series the main separatist force came from the water from debris of the space battle above
Do I want your wild tangents? ....that's, why I'm here...