Caedrel's Thoughts On The Potential Worlds Meta

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  • @Ty-dk6qu
    @Ty-dk6qu 4 дні тому +275

    If more people used mathematics in league, they'd understand a lot of LoL nerfs are psychological.
    August has admitted this is a thing, very low impact nerfs to change minds on the meta and shift it despite not much changing at all.

    • @SuperXD44
      @SuperXD44 3 дні тому +4

      Mainly because the people who make the decisions in the teams are not smart about champions. Sounds weird as it is their jobs but there are many paycheck stealers

    • @dm4226
      @dm4226 3 дні тому +20

      been saying this for 5+ years. pro like oh this champ lost 3 ad its unplayable. nah just cope

    • @Lewis434
      @Lewis434 3 дні тому +2

      It’s like FPS games when devs change the gun recoil a bit that actually has no impact, it affects your feelings on the gun.

    • @srensen3081
      @srensen3081 3 дні тому +1

      @@Lewis434 if you changed the ak's recoil in cs it'd be a functional nerf to a lot of people

    • @notdesmondesmond
      @notdesmondesmond 3 дні тому +9

      @@dm4226 In MF's case it's actually the BT nerf that hurt the most. She was the only champ next to Draven who 1st item BT every game so the first item spike is gone. That and her two best combo partners Rell & Lilia is nerfed as well. The -3AD also hurts her passive amp too so last hitting will be noticeably harder early. MF will not be appearing this Worlds.

  • @emptyptr9401
    @emptyptr9401 4 дні тому +726

    I mean, its important to remember that LS's tier lists are never what he thinks will be picked, but what he thinks is theoretically the best even if it doesn't get picked.

    • @MrGruxLike
      @MrGruxLike 4 дні тому +256

      In other words LS tierlists are always dogshit and they never come true.

    • @emptyptr9401
      @emptyptr9401 4 дні тому +207

      @@MrGruxLike No, on the contrary. I find it extremly interesting to envision what league would be like if it was fully optimized.
      And they often do come true, just with a very big delay. Don't get me wrong, he is not right about everything, but he is right about a lot of stuff. Be it Liandries, Ivern or camera movement, the guy is often a few years ahead of what we see in pro play. So I find listening to his takles and his view of the game VERY interesting.

    • @falinestixiaolong9691
      @falinestixiaolong9691 4 дні тому +102

      Dude is just getting satisfaction out of putting out a tier list completely different than everyone else's. First, if it's only theoretical, then... Ok, who the fuck cares then ? People watch Worlds tier list to know what will be picked at Worlds. No one cares about Warwick and Janna top, buddy. Second, let's admit only theory is ok. What is he basing himself on when talking about such niche picks? He says Rumble is counterpicked by Fiddlesticks top. Let's check top match-ups, oh, indeed Fiddle has a 100% winrate against Rumble in FIVE GAMES TOTAL (Diamond+, global). Amazing analysis, very relevant. Third, even putting aside the theoretical aspect, he just has completely random takes that go against every metric. Shen jungle ? 45% winrate. Lillia still Z? Caedrel just disproved that. His LB hate is unjustified, the champion was perma banned against DK all split, and almost carried KT to Worlds in G5. I don't dislike LS, I found some of his opinions very interesting, but other times I simply think he's being different for the sake of being different. High highs, low lows.

    • @emptyptr9401
      @emptyptr9401 4 дні тому +138

      @@falinestixiaolong9691 1.) Just cause you dont care doesnt mean no one cares, mate. Case and point: Me... I care... What a weird argument to use when talking to someone who obviously does care...
      2.) I mean, he does have a very deep understanding of the game and talks to many other people who also have a deep understanding of the game. When he says that a champ is strong, there usually is a valid reason for it. Doesn't mean he is always right, you can only go so far using theory alone, but he is right often enough to take his theorycrafting very seriously. Predicted that Ivern was strong for years, argued for f keys before anyone used them or most famously: The Liandries situation. Also, he does often practically test his ideas too, he is not just talking out of his ass.
      3.) Thats an appeal to authority fallacy. And if you are really good or enemies don't properly abuse the weaknesses of your champ you can make very suboptimal picks look very OP. I can't argue for or against LB, I could make steel men for both sides of the argument, but just saying "Its good because a good team won with it" is not a good argument.
      Maybe he sometimes is different for the sake of being different, but as I said, often there are good things behind what he says. And he generally does invite actual discussion and lets the people around him call his BS, so its not like his more crazy ideas dont get challanged. Those pro tier lists especially are done with the help of actual pros and former pros. Thats why in my book his takes have a ot of merit and do warrant being taken seriously-

    • @youhavegottobekidding
      @youhavegottobekidding 4 дні тому

      ​@@falinestixiaolong9691lmfao the fact you're looking at win rate stats shows you don't understand what analysis is. The 100% win rate info is not where LS got his analysis from. He got it from visualizing how the matchup plays out and talking to challenger fiddle and rumble players. There have been times where he consults two different one tricks of each respective champ to evaluate the match up or to even demonstrate what he's saying. LS was hyping up Nasus for years before he's now finally being picked in pro-play despite barely receiving any changes. He demonstrated its power in a support role against T1 Academy a couple years ago and he wasn't even a Nasus one trick lol

  • @GlandMaster-w9n
    @GlandMaster-w9n 4 дні тому +97

    0:08 Whoever came up with the idea to advertise durex on lol stream commited one of the worst business decisions ever

    • @zoso2640
      @zoso2640 3 дні тому

      hmm idk about that, i doubt league is experiencing a lot of brand new (young) players so most players are probably already a bit older, lets say 20-30, so they are well in the age of being more sexually active

    • @Meagreee
      @Meagreee 3 дні тому +20

      @@zoso2640 Lmao, talk about not getting the joke

    • @TH-dg2mm
      @TH-dg2mm 3 дні тому

      It's for when you're getting fucked by your team

    • @zoso2640
      @zoso2640 3 дні тому

      @@Meagreee Really? What the joke here?

    • @Meagreee
      @Meagreee 2 дні тому +5

      @@zoso2640 That gamers are virgins, especially tryhard gamers

  • @stev3258
    @stev3258 4 дні тому +56

    1:14 seconds in and he's said more than LS has said in his last 4 videos combined

    • @IWillTencent
      @IWillTencent 3 дні тому +3

      LS hella fell off bro

    • @momoaa
      @momoaa 3 дні тому +7

      LS is that gif of the black dude talking to a brick wall and his viewers are all just standing there applauding him as the greatest free thinker in the league pro scene

    • @Gabriel-cg9tj
      @Gabriel-cg9tj 17 годин тому

      Me when i lie/am braindead.
      Mind you, you fucks think a 1% increase on J4 passive will break him.

    • @ArcaneTricksterRS
      @ArcaneTricksterRS 11 годин тому

      LS is mostly wrong in most cases, he was just one of the first people who decided to try and analyze League in depth and show it to the world, thus coming up with specific terms and concepts that were unknown to the casual players at the time. Because of that, people thought he was some sort of genius who knows everything. Then, as people got smarter about the game and learnt more about how it works, they realized that most of what LS said was complete dumbassery that is either plainly wrong or just cannot be applied realistically.
      Thing is, he managed to gather a lot of believers, mostly people who couldn't ever critically think and judge if whatever LS said is right or wrong, they just blindly swalloed everything he was saying and yeah, we reached this point now that finally he is kinda irrelevant, his views are pretty widely considered dumb and no one really takes him, his tierlists or his theorycrafting seriously anymore.

  • @justsomeguythatwantssometh9986
    @justsomeguythatwantssometh9986 2 дні тому +5

    Man If Scout can't really attend on time, I hope they sub in Doinb cuz holy fk this is good for him. Galio TF Renek Ori on S? This meta is too good to pass on him ngl.

  • @thiagobaba7447
    @thiagobaba7447 17 годин тому +2

    fearless draft will come as a bless to the competitive scenario, we will finally be able to watch a best of 5 without the same champions every single game

  • @giovanidejesus9100
    @giovanidejesus9100 4 дні тому +8

    Sylas... With Zeka in worlds, perma ban

  • @Arty-j4t
    @Arty-j4t 4 дні тому +58

    Sudenly oriana appears on qarters for no particular reason

    • @padzman91
      @padzman91 4 дні тому +16

      Has to be an inside joke from pros 😂
      No Orianna in any of the splits but becomes meta in worlds

    • @yaooooo846
      @yaooooo846 4 дні тому

      @@padzman91 Same how Zeri basically hibernates

    • @Luciano-nv8kp
      @Luciano-nv8kp 4 дні тому +5

      meta is complicated. they dont need to buff orianna directly so she can be part of meta. for example, if they buff a champion whose orianna is counter, then she will turn meta

    • @padzman91
      @padzman91 4 дні тому +2

      @@Luciano-nv8kp or if Rell Jungle is viable again, god forbid 🤣

    • @yaooooo846
      @yaooooo846 3 дні тому +2

      @@padzman91 still better than this ad midline crap

  • @bernardkuiper1496
    @bernardkuiper1496 4 дні тому +33

    14:42 GEKOLONISEERD

  • @simonpetrikovthepoor9737
    @simonpetrikovthepoor9737 4 дні тому +9

    Don’t sleep on ryze dog

  • @darkumineru1681
    @darkumineru1681 4 дні тому +4

    i think ziggs will see pay due to how much players have played it and the nerf was mainly turret damage not the neutral game

  • @ChikoTheOGDog
    @ChikoTheOGDog 4 дні тому +128

    When will we ever live to see the day where Zed's meta in pro play again?.....

    • @teemopanda02
      @teemopanda02 4 дні тому +88

      When Ryu stops paying Riot to nerf it

    • @sooos_2294
      @sooos_2294 4 дні тому +108

      I think there was some statement from Riot themselves a couple years ago. They stated something like: "We think his Kit and Abilities are pretty toxic and should never be strong enough for proplay" You can probably find this somewhere, but unless they change their opinion, we will never see Zed in a super strong state for long.

    • @heihy7965
      @heihy7965 4 дні тому +103

      If he’s good in proplay it usually means he’s disgustingly strong in soloq. Very unlikely unfortunately

    • @sooos_2294
      @sooos_2294 4 дні тому +43

      @@ChikoTheOGDog assassins in general are so weak and useless in proplay if they are not completely op. They thrive in soloQ because everything is uncoordinated but as soon as teams act smart and don't isolate their carries, assassins fall off super hart. Bad waveclear, bad sieging, 0 utility for most, only high single target damage and no chance vs Jax/Yone/Gwen/Camille in sidelane.

    • @ndnd7614
      @ndnd7614 4 дні тому +5

      @@sooos_2294you forget to mention the most important point: loses nearly every mid matchup, even mid adcs in lane.

  • @PabloLopez-l6x
    @PabloLopez-l6x День тому +2

    Yone + Ziggs meta = t1 not getting out of groups

    • @Gabriel-cg9tj
      @Gabriel-cg9tj 17 годин тому

      Rumble isn’t a must ban anymore+depending on how braindead pro’s are smolder might not be meta either. We can easily see a world where pro’s just stop picking ziggs like last year.
      Yone will be a perma ban tho. That champ is omega giga turbo busted rn

  • @MastaMozed
    @MastaMozed 4 дні тому +62

    Yay another Sejuani Vs Jarvan meta at Worlds, how exciting right ?

    • @Akynam
      @Akynam 4 дні тому +54

      j4 is fun to watch, seju not so much tho

    • @ChaosBanana
      @ChaosBanana 4 дні тому +38

      Better than trist vs corki every game

    • @SoulxWeaver
      @SoulxWeaver 4 дні тому

      Sej mai j4
      It’s wild how every meta just boils down to trading the same 3-4 champs per role

    • @hachiko2692
      @hachiko2692 4 дні тому +8

      ​@@ChaosBananaPeople already forgot about Lucian Nami Zeri Lulu

    • @wackoducky
      @wackoducky 4 дні тому

      @@hachiko2692 dont forget maokai vi!

  • @revachxl
    @revachxl 4 дні тому +5

    1 minute ago is intentional feeding

  • @Nothingnowhere909
    @Nothingnowhere909 3 дні тому +1

    I think the Jax gnar buff is crazy for worlds because Jax and gnar were already good.

  • @xSkwintz
    @xSkwintz День тому +1

    Ryze is sleeper op right now. Definitely expect him to be meta at worlds.

  • @hisaichiyushiki8219
    @hisaichiyushiki8219 4 дні тому +5

    Worlds tier list soon

  • @jzeppelin92
    @jzeppelin92 2 дні тому

    Aurora had 62% and 65% winrate (62 mid and 65 top) in ch on soloq kr

  • @hahahahahahahh9830
    @hahahahahahahh9830 3 дні тому +8

    LS tier lists are always so garbage, he’s deluded

    • @annaran85
      @annaran85 3 дні тому +1

      tell me in which way they are garbage i'd love to know that

    • @yashim08
      @yashim08 3 дні тому

      explain yourself

    • @atrain-wr9je
      @atrain-wr9je 2 дні тому +4

      ​@@annaran85Use your brain.

    • @Gabriel-cg9tj
      @Gabriel-cg9tj 17 годин тому +1

      You lot said for 2 years Ivern is the worst jungler btw

    • @ArcaneTricksterRS
      @ArcaneTricksterRS 11 годин тому

      @@Gabriel-cg9tj Ivern only became decent as soon as double ADC hypercarry comps became meta lol. He wouldn't be good last year despite being the same champion.

  • @Kyong008
    @Kyong008 4 дні тому +17

    S tier and Z tier lmao tier list tiers r getting stupid, and 6 tiers too lol

    • @Shirikatsu
      @Shirikatsu 3 дні тому

      Wait for X tier

    • @kakkashi21999
      @kakkashi21999 3 дні тому +1

      What is so difficult to grasp behind S tier meaning very strong, and Z tier meaning god tier basically. There’s always been champs over the years that are disgustingly strong, putting them in S doesn’t do it justice

    • @lazerfruit2121
      @lazerfruit2121 3 дні тому +8

      @@kakkashi21999 Because thats exactly what A and S tier used to be lol. Z tier is incredibly stupid and unneeded

    • @bluey1695
      @bluey1695 3 дні тому +3

      @@kakkashi21999 S tier is supposed to be the super strong god tier champs, A tier is for the very strong.

    • @peacepham7838
      @peacepham7838 14 годин тому

      @@lazerfruit2121 Well, you need context for it to work. LS put Z tier in for "alway under contest", Z tier champ is either pick or ban, while S tier is "super strong pick" but "depend on team comp". Did you get it? Z tier shape whatever ban/pick will be, S tier is piority when you go for certain team comp.

  • @johnmarcramos3180
    @johnmarcramos3180 2 дні тому +1

    Tank Sylas ☠️

  • @tnetennba2053
    @tnetennba2053 4 дні тому +1

    yone will be at the finals, this champ is just so safe and doesnt have any horrible matchups in pro

  • @xmdpxbasketball
    @xmdpxbasketball 3 дні тому +1

    why even bother to have lower tiers if we are just gonna make 2 S tiers and Z tiers. some of these champs would be F tier fr

    • @Gabriel-cg9tj
      @Gabriel-cg9tj 17 годин тому

      Name one plus learn to read. COUNTER. BLIND

  • @NopeFFx
    @NopeFFx 4 дні тому +5

    worlds teams tierlist ? :D

    • @Madge104
      @Madge104 4 дні тому +6

      Look at the MSI tierlist, drop G2 and T1 by 1 tier, add HLE

    • @NopeFFx
      @NopeFFx 4 дні тому +1

      Yea, HLE are just the best alone at the top but T1 lowest tier imo
      But I thought would be interesting what Caedrel thinks

  • @seraph_5703
    @seraph_5703 2 дні тому +1

    I just wonder why nobody pick assassins like akali mid?

  • @PHNSPR
    @PHNSPR 3 дні тому

    Caedrel has 4 apples in his mouth saying Aurora.

  • @Aetolus
    @Aetolus 2 дні тому

    Leaving Malzahar open is a Z tier counter to Caedrel's team

  • @pemsapascual8521
    @pemsapascual8521 2 дні тому

    Riot didn't nerf yone for 3 patch despite of his win rate in lck

  • @goliath_red1102
    @goliath_red1102 4 дні тому +2

    Really? Katarina? The champ hasn’t been meta since S3 or something

    • @atrain-wr9je
      @atrain-wr9je 2 дні тому

      LS is a moron. Kat sucks in every elo. She is too hard for low elo players mechanically, and too easy to dodge, kite, lock down, and one shot in high elo. Her ult is so easy to move away from and she is standing still for 3 seconds while doing it, so good luck living while being a standing target dummy after pressing r.

  • @Lure-rw7rk
    @Lure-rw7rk 4 дні тому +4

    The fun part about worlds is that always some team bring some ramdon pick and the meta evolves, like Beryl with range supports or yuumi in 2021, even T1 last year with Jhin, Bard and Varus shit.

  • @TheBritishPoro
    @TheBritishPoro 2 дні тому +1

    Mega Yone prio + Jax buffs? All the Annie mains shaking in fear.

  • @sapphire--9375
    @sapphire--9375 4 дні тому

    "HWEI IS SO STRONG" - never picked
    I love hwei, pros should play more hwei

  • @AtlasAdvice254
    @AtlasAdvice254 4 дні тому +5

    I just like that we’re moving away from some of the brain dead champs minus smolder. There’s nothing entertaining about seeing the most mechanically gifted and talented players in the world play champions with no skill ceiling to speak of. I like seeing the Yone, the Ryze, the ahri, etc I hate seeing champs like maokai, Ziggs, corki, smolder, Op Zeri, and Vi

    • @mikeedwin1905
      @mikeedwin1905 3 дні тому +3

      Lil bro just called Yone a high skill champion 😂🤡🫵

    • @AtlasAdvice254
      @AtlasAdvice254 3 дні тому +3

      @@mikeedwin1905 if you dont think he is then you're probably just a low elo player that doesnt know what that champ is actually capable of

    • @ArcaneTricksterRS
      @ArcaneTricksterRS 11 годин тому

      How is Ziggs, Zeri and Corki unskilled champions lol. What exactly makes Ahri more skill expressive than Corki or Zeri?
      Just say that you are tired of watching those champions and want some change, don't spew random bs about skill expression.

    • @ArcaneTricksterRS
      @ArcaneTricksterRS 11 годин тому

      @@AtlasAdvice254 Yeah, I'm sure that champion that can miss his Q3 knock up and his R and still kill you in a sidelane is very skill expressive.
      The fact that you can do insane outplays with Yone and hard carry teamfights doesn't mean much if you can express zero skill and still be very effective.

  • @_renz.c
    @_renz.c 4 дні тому +9

    As long as fkin Tris, Corki, Vi, Sej, Maokai are out. I'd be happy

    • @lumivoid950
      @lumivoid950 4 дні тому +4

      Sej's base kit is just too strong. She will never not be picked unless she gets absolutely gutted or completely reworked. She might fall out of priority of like a top 123 pick, but she'll never go below like a top 5 or top 7-8 pick.

    • @mambaforever3239
      @mambaforever3239 4 дні тому

      Mao will be flexed either top, jungle or support. His ult is one of the most powerful ults in the game. Vi also has good synergy with Yone so I don’t think she’s going anywhere too.

  • @krass6603
    @krass6603 2 дні тому

    can anyone explain yone pick rate increasing so much I havent been up to par with competitive for a bit

  • @Klennexus
    @Klennexus 4 дні тому +7

    You all forgot jax didn’t you?
    Edit: like I said in the comments: I didn’t see it was only meant for Mid, as it has Lulu and soraka there as well, I thought its prio picks in general. But I forgot LS “genius” to play soraka mid in this meta

    • @YtFoff
      @YtFoff 4 дні тому +1

      this is mid role

    • @chokonnit7337
      @chokonnit7337 4 дні тому

      who is playing jax mid bro

    • @Klennexus
      @Klennexus 4 дні тому +2

      @@YtFoffoh my bad, didn’t see it and a lot of these champs I didn’t expect to see in a mid lane tier list

    • @bryanentienza3524
      @bryanentienza3524 4 дні тому

      Jax mid xdd

    • @momoaa
      @momoaa 2 дні тому +1

      people will unironically laugh at you/make fun of you for potentially suggesting jax mid while wholeheartedly supporting a list that says lulu, raka, ivern, fiddlesticks, and vel koz mid are good picks. This tier list is so made up in fantasy land, anyone with a brain would assume it is a general tier list.

  • @apblolol
    @apblolol 3 дні тому

    got a bad feeling that adc mid is going to be meta and lane swaps. going to be a boring farm/dive meta with one team fight per game.
    smolder, trist, ziggs stuck in mid or bot flex. Yone, Garen, Nasus...
    renekton will be the most played champ, not cause its op but because its safe. people will try and fail to play olaf. Only two people are going to play K'Sante, and the rest will be Jax or Ornn.
    Supports and junglers are just going to fill out the comp for front line. J4 Lee Sej Ivern. Rakan Leona Rell Renata. maybe a few really good teams will pull out some spicy picks on stage just to flex against a team that could never beat them

  • @daniely6410
    @daniely6410 2 дні тому +1

    Remember when LS and Nemesis constantly shit talk Doinb, saying he is the worst mid of the tournament (2019 champion), his play style is awful and would never work? That should give you a glimpse on how qualified of an LOL analysis he is.

  • @wnazgul
    @wnazgul День тому

    Seems Caedrel cant read graphs, every drop looks teh same, if its 2% or 10%, the graphs scales so a drop always looks terrible.

  • @sheabishop6200
    @sheabishop6200 4 дні тому +2

    Karma is not a good champ. Don’t blind it

    • @annaran85
      @annaran85 4 дні тому

      she is a flex into 4 roles so if you can take advantage of that she is good but standalone mid she prolly like a or b

    • @sheabishop6200
      @sheabishop6200 4 дні тому +1

      @@annaran85 Seraphine is a better mage/support in 3 of those roles. In top, you’d play her as a tank. Just pick a tank at that point. There is no reason to pick her unless you want a pushing bot lane

    • @willmollard9078
      @willmollard9078 3 дні тому

      @@annaran85tons of champs are flexes in multiple roles it’s whether or not they’re good in other roles.
      Brand jg was really strong but he wasn’t made any stronger by the fact that he could technically be flexed mid and sup because if teams did that they’d be trolling.
      Karma mid is a bad pick right now and it doesn’t magically become strong because it can be flexed.

    • @atrain-wr9je
      @atrain-wr9je 2 дні тому

      Karma is not an s or even an a. No cc worth a shit, no scaling and definitely a trash mid. LS is a moron.

  • @AlpnzAMV
    @AlpnzAMV 4 дні тому +2

    why is leblanc so low for proplay? that champion is so frustrating to play against

    • @awung11
      @awung11 4 дні тому +1

      I disagree with LS putting her that low, but she's B at best. She can 1v9 smurf in the right hands (i.e. top regions vs play-in teams) but is a lot easier to play against when the teams are even.

    • @YtFoff
      @YtFoff 4 дні тому +5

      She requires essentially you or your team to play better, aka get leads to function, and even after starting a snowball she dies once and it's like hitting a brick wall, she can be oppressive when her conditions are met yes but she puts a massive risk on the game, if you pick Leblanc because the enemy team is worse well then why not just play normal and win in a stable way instead of putting the game at a way higher chance of being thrown

    • @timerunhistory2604
      @timerunhistory2604 4 дні тому +1

      @@awung11I mean most champs can win if it’s an lck/lpl team vs a wildcard. His argument is LB requires way too much perfection from you and your overall team. Ie KT v T1 BDD is ahead on LB but has no impact bc his sides are so behind

    • @lunacy5510
      @lunacy5510 4 дні тому +7

      @@timerunhistory2604yeah. The effort to impact ratio in LeBlanc vs Yone was brutal. LB was on life support despite playing really really well for majority of the game and then she died once and became completely useless. While Yone was a like ticking time bomb feeling and being much more of a threat despite being camped, bullied and like 0-3. These series really illustrated well why ls doesn't like LeBlanc. She can be 10-0 and you can still easily lose control of the game while actual good champs can be a factor even despite some mistakes or poor execution there and there.

    • @tim..indeed
      @tim..indeed 3 дні тому +3

      LS doesn't like champions that require you to win lane and snowball like LB or Renekton, he wants you to pick champs that go even and scale.

  • @ZadenWoW
    @ZadenWoW 3 дні тому

    I really just wish EU / NA would just play their own game. I swear they would have better chances picking for fun or comfort then trying to copy cat whatever is hot in korea/ china.

  • @the1eloboss592
    @the1eloboss592 3 дні тому

    We're is rumble

  • @jimjohn8481
    @jimjohn8481 3 дні тому

    Which UA-cam channel for worlds again?

  • @Tiger24444
    @Tiger24444 3 дні тому +1

    LS detected opinion rejected

  • @thatguy_nick2937
    @thatguy_nick2937 3 дні тому

    Another worlds patch, another J4 and Viego patch xdd

  • @TWG_IceBreaker
    @TWG_IceBreaker 4 дні тому +2

    If the meta doesn’t change and T1 doesn’t adjust…. They’re cooked😭

    • @Emilie-um3qc
      @Emilie-um3qc 3 дні тому

      When worlds they are the meta 😅

  • @Marco-qt5nv
    @Marco-qt5nv 4 дні тому +2

    I mean these changes are amazing for Zeus, hes prob gonna be best top of worlds again, perfect meta for him jayce gnar spacing kingdom, oner loves viego and ad jgls like j4 and xin, faker might get back on mages which is good, even tho he doesnt have azir anymore, and keria guma can abuse their enemys with ranged sup cuz most tanks got nerved

  • @LokiTheAnsuz
    @LokiTheAnsuz 4 дні тому +1

    Why is Rumble so low? I had the impression he's been pick or ban every single game in every region and I haven't seen changes to him in the patch...
    Edit: Oh I saw the changes. Maybe he's bad now...

    • @gravitybr3aker_-237
      @gravitybr3aker_-237 4 дні тому

      I was about to say .. they did my boi dirty and took important DMG from him
      It doesn't feel good to play him ATM imo

    • @timerunhistory2604
      @timerunhistory2604 4 дні тому

      It’s specifically mid lane rumble and every other champ on this list

    • @wwekings9505
      @wwekings9505 4 дні тому

      @@gravitybr3aker_-237ye this was worlds patch, so a lot of the buff and nerf was mainly from pro play and setting up for worlds, when rumble have been a must pick/ban on redside for like 2 year now, you would have expected it to been nerf a long time ago. And in pro play there really no counter to blind first pick rumble

    • @ArcaneTricksterRS
      @ArcaneTricksterRS 11 годин тому

      Rumble isn't bad necessarily now, it's just that maybe AP mid laners are coming back, and then if you also have Rumble in top, you completely lack physical damage, considering Ziggs can also exist. Basically, it might force a meta where you can only play Rumble or Ziggs, therefore there won't be that high prio for Rumble anymore.

    • @timerunhistory2604
      @timerunhistory2604 7 годин тому

      @@ArcaneTricksterRS this isn’t including rumble top. It’s specifically about his position as a midlane pick

  • @parabebe2499
    @parabebe2499 3 дні тому

    wait what happened with yone i know hes been played in regions on and off but what made him pick/ban ?

  • @jaydenq.9963
    @jaydenq.9963 3 дні тому +1

    is this lpl meta or lck meta or t1 meta?

  • @Knicks176
    @Knicks176 4 дні тому +12

    I feel like LS just says random shit because if he says something wrong no ones gonna care they’ll forget and just chalk it up to LS being LS but since he just throws so much shit at the wall he’ll eventually get some things right so people will be like wow giga brain 5head mega insane prediction and stroke his ego

  • @corbis7765
    @corbis7765 4 дні тому

    I have a bias but akali is A just because she has consistency, really hard to get ganked and be pushed out of lane

    • @wwekings9505
      @wwekings9505 4 дні тому +3

      Unless your zeka on the akali, there just so much better pick you can go

    • @corbis7765
      @corbis7765 4 дні тому

      @@wwekings9505 like I said I have a bias I main her and am pretty good

    • @willmollard9078
      @willmollard9078 3 дні тому

      Wow I main zed and I’m pretty good and he’s similar in those ways. Guess I can say he’s S tier in PRO PLAY.

    • @corbis7765
      @corbis7765 3 дні тому

      @@willmollard9078 did I say akali is S tier and you could argue zed would be higher because he is an assassin with less risk involved in his trades

  • @LLNG
    @LLNG 4 дні тому +1

    League is really dogshit compare to dota 2 on how many unique champions/heroes are being pick in a tournament

  • @Avxm
    @Avxm 4 дні тому

    lissandra meta 100%

  • @ozymandias8523
    @ozymandias8523 3 дні тому

    There's a secret combo that teams should use, Urgot top + Braum supp, they proc the Braum's passive instantly.

  • @SenehaKhatun-r2q
    @SenehaKhatun-r2q День тому

    Lee Jessica Martin Eric Wilson Ronald

  • @RadialSeeker113
    @RadialSeeker113 18 годин тому

    Im so glad yone is strong. Watching corki, azir, ori just farm in mid for 30 mins got boring af.

  • @user-xi9ru5dp7f
    @user-xi9ru5dp7f 3 дні тому

    I highly doubt Yone being meta in worlds.
    He requires way too much bans for him to be able to breath in mid. It isn’t worth it.

  • @scotthall1658
    @scotthall1658 3 дні тому

    Where's the other half of the roster?

  • @lolthisisatroll
    @lolthisisatroll 3 дні тому

    Bro is the absolute international corporate arch -CEO of farming HUHHs

  • @thursday-ue4lq
    @thursday-ue4lq 3 дні тому

    Will gooning be meta for worlds?

  • @Omegathejoa
    @Omegathejoa День тому

    Hate this Ziggs priority meeehhhh....

  • @RuthTrimble-k5q
    @RuthTrimble-k5q 14 годин тому

    Rodriguez Shirley Robinson Christopher Jones William

  • @sherlock2940
    @sherlock2940 4 дні тому

    I need smoulder to either be so op that he’s perma ban forever in mid or so dogshit he’s never picked. If smoulder is played most games mid in world just not going to watch

  • @Njox
    @Njox 3 дні тому

    I wish LS and Caedrel hopped on call and discussed

  • @guruespiritu2069
    @guruespiritu2069 3 дні тому

    Sick and tired of Ziggs

  • @princeatomz
    @princeatomz 4 дні тому

    How is zed lower than nafari the champ is mega shit

  • @mugen050
    @mugen050 4 дні тому

    a meta with kha zix is always sick i can only hope

  • @bos7522
    @bos7522 3 дні тому +1

    Umm this is the first time i think LS's tier list is kinda based.

  • @MrGetownedLP
    @MrGetownedLP 4 дні тому

    Sally

  • @vh6517
    @vh6517 4 дні тому +1

    LS is trolling with this list or what

  • @gelatonevado1529
    @gelatonevado1529 4 дні тому

    New meta ? So the ADC meta or mayble lane swap meta is over?

  • @lordheadass8310
    @lordheadass8310 4 дні тому

    0:08 I find it funny that durex of all of company sponsored e-sport.
    League of Legends e-sport of all thing.

    • @hansjurgen4567
      @hansjurgen4567 9 годин тому

      Its not about making money in this case, but about keeping league players from reproducing

  • @window9213
    @window9213 4 дні тому +2

    No way LS thinks Smolder is gonna be a Z tier counterpick after the 5 direct nerfs xD

    • @willmollard9078
      @willmollard9078 3 дні тому

      Well was highest prio blind pick after 4 straight nerfs….

    • @annaran85
      @annaran85 3 дні тому

      surely the 5 less damage on q and 30 less hp matters right? if he is completely broken rn these nerfs are completely irrelevant

    • @window9213
      @window9213 3 дні тому

      @@annaran85 No ap ratio on q, less w damage, fleet nerfed, shieldbow and bt nerfed. Why would you not pick a mage? Especially considering smolders solo q wr mid and bot being absolutely terrible because his laning phase is unplayable now.

    • @annaran85
      @annaran85 3 дні тому

      @@window9213 his winrate was horrible before these nerfs, no ap ratio doens't matter when smolder rarely built liandry, w damage is completely irrelevant, he goes grasp now and he rarely built shieldbow or bt his core items are same, you can play mages but smolder is def still good in pro

    • @window9213
      @window9213 3 дні тому

      @@annaran85 His winrate was actually fine on 14.16. It dropped on 14.17, and guess what. Pro play was on 14.16, not 14.17. Phreak himself said that they had no reliable data for how smolder was currently in pro play because after general nerfs in 14.17 no pro games were being played. Because they were all on 14.16. Your data is just not accurate.

  • @ardyn3177
    @ardyn3177 4 дні тому

    Zeus on top fr

  • @Emilie-um3qc
    @Emilie-um3qc 3 дні тому

    They said it was T1 meta by riot is it true?

    • @willmollard9078
      @willmollard9078 3 дні тому

      It’s not. If anything it’s LPL meta . People are stupid.

  • @aitordominguezcomin9147
    @aitordominguezcomin9147 4 дні тому

    Is vladimir’s W nerfed for worlds?

  • @mauricewalmsley7035
    @mauricewalmsley7035 4 дні тому

    Rumble C tier? Nope

  • @orbarak123
    @orbarak123 3 дні тому

    Are they going to nerf Yone ?

  • @dontyouwannaknow
    @dontyouwannaknow 2 дні тому

    oh we love ourselves all the LS slanders 😌😌😌

  • @heehee4341
    @heehee4341 4 дні тому +1

    ls kekw

  • @Almond_Boy
    @Almond_Boy 3 дні тому

    Where's nunu?

  • @miruajin6448
    @miruajin6448 3 дні тому

    This world means a lot for China no? They’re declining

  • @aversear
    @aversear 4 дні тому +2

    Litteraly Nemesis patch

    • @dirtydard4870
      @dirtydard4870 4 дні тому +12

      He'll never have any meta again. He gave up on his dream

    • @samuel-nq6he
      @samuel-nq6he 4 дні тому +6

      ​@dirtydard4870 crazy that one of the best players in the west isn't competing tho

    • @hahahahahahahh9830
      @hahahahahahahh9830 3 дні тому

      @@samuel-nq6he much easier to stream and probably makes more. Pros play like 10-12 hours a day

    • @samuel-nq6he
      @samuel-nq6he 3 дні тому

      @@hahahahahahahh9830 I know

  • @deyfre4750
    @deyfre4750 4 дні тому +45

    I swear each time I see something comming from LS I'm getting even more convinced that he is the most overrated and delusional guy in lol esports.

    • @SwayNoir
      @SwayNoir 4 дні тому +8

      I like him but he lives in a completely different world. I think the version he plays on has completely different patch notes to the game in reality.

    • @JQuill116
      @JQuill116 4 дні тому +27

      Yet tons of pros still go to him to talk about the game and value his opinion. Even if people disagree with his takes, he clearly has a ton of insight into the game and a ton of respect from some of the best players in the world. You don't get that by being delusional.

    • @annaran85
      @annaran85 4 дні тому +2

      he did the tierlist with apa and he mostly agreed on every placement so you are saying apa is delusional? also you probably didn't hear a single explanation for the placement so its easy to say that when you are brain washed by "meta" and you probably think that if a champ isnt picked in pro then he is bad

    • @stetscopes
      @stetscopes 4 дні тому +8

      Apa has always been YAPPA. Too much talk, 0 play.

    • @annaran85
      @annaran85 4 дні тому +5

      @@stetscopes ohh yea so does bwipo who helped make the top tierlist and trymbi who helped make the supp tierlist

  • @mariuseskedal1095
    @mariuseskedal1095 4 дні тому +1

    AU rora
    not rororora

  • @Staxxet
    @Staxxet День тому

    Problem is ceadreal looks at what will be the actual meta, not looking at inherit strengh if they were to be picked.

  • @Arahan96
    @Arahan96 4 дні тому +9

    Yeah the moment i saw Xerath on S tier list for PRO play i laughed. Yeah pick Xerath on pro play. See what happens

    • @annaran85
      @annaran85 4 дні тому +2

      absolutely justified to put xerath into s counter, against low range team comp with little engage xerath is insane

    • @steich3016
      @steich3016 4 дні тому

      @@annaran85lol

    • @willmollard9078
      @willmollard9078 3 дні тому

      @@annaran85? What team comp is going to be low ranged and also have no engage?
      If a team somehow manages to draft that there are tons of champs that can punish way better than xerath.

    • @annaran85
      @annaran85 3 дні тому

      @@willmollard9078 ksante xin zhao syndra jhin rell, very normal comp we might see at worlds and xerath fucks syndra jhin and rell should never be in position to engage on xerath given there will be 4 more champs on xerath's side

    • @hahahahahahahh9830
      @hahahahahahahh9830 3 дні тому +1

      @@Arahan96 saw it once, picked to counter azir and he didn’t do much countering. Jungle was constantly mid and xersth died like 2 times

  • @_thecrimsonreaper_4972
    @_thecrimsonreaper_4972 4 дні тому

    Fizz meta in worlds please Sadge

  • @MrNommerz
    @MrNommerz 4 дні тому +3

    Zeka upset with this meta because Yone is such an easy permaban now. I think it actually really hurts him that banning Yone won't be a boon for his teams draft anymore, or something that might not happen. Obviously it's not the only champion he could play but it's probably his best.

    • @EverTruu
      @EverTruu 3 дні тому +3

      He could dominate on anything lol he can’t be banned out like faker

    • @aesthory939
      @aesthory939 3 дні тому +1

      @@EverTruu so false lol it is true for Chovy, he can play any champs. But Zeka isn’t that good on mages (his azir sucks for example) but his ad champs, and assasins are just another beast.

    • @EverTruu
      @EverTruu 3 дні тому +1

      @@aesthory939 His Azir is what he played against faker to win the worlds finals in 2022. How many HLE games have you watched this season? Just a few or?

    • @hieunguyenduy1357
      @hieunguyenduy1357 3 дні тому +1

      @@EverTruuyeah zeka champ pool is pretty nice

    • @MrNommerz
      @MrNommerz 3 дні тому +1

      @@EverTruu Zeka's obviously a very good mid but I think he usually performs best on melee mids like Sylas, Akali, and Yone. In my mind those are his 3 best champs. Doesn't mean he'll just int if he can't play them but he almost always looks like one of the best in the world whenever he gets to play melee mids and they're in a good spot in the meta.

  • @FOLIVER_ph
    @FOLIVER_ph 4 дні тому +1

    Orianna prio is just for faker like good old days

  • @SilencedButNotForgotten
    @SilencedButNotForgotten 4 дні тому +10

    LS hates every champion that needs hands. 😂

    • @awung11
      @awung11 4 дні тому +19

      Yasuo is Z-tier?

    • @hogmuncher
      @hogmuncher 4 дні тому +2

      Xerath s tier yasuo z tier you lack eyes i think

    • @leviathanarchviste832
      @leviathanarchviste832 4 дні тому +1

      "I'm a fucking moron and I like to show it off publicly"

  • @MaybeBlackMesa
    @MaybeBlackMesa 4 дні тому

    2024 and people still pretending that pros adapt to the latest patch note... they're just going to pick the nerfed champs and not get punished by it because the opposing team will also do the same

  • @potheadesens8725
    @potheadesens8725 4 дні тому

    This was a LPL patch and you would still have iwilltencent complaining that it is a T1 patch when it basically nerfed all the LCK champs 😂😂😂

  • @IYPITWL
    @IYPITWL 4 дні тому

    Riot doing so much to improve the game... But then they bring back Lethal Tempo.
    If you want attack speed -> Hail of Blades
    If you want damage after attacking several times -> Press the Attack
    Want BOTH?! -> Lethal Tempo.
    It's a trash designed rune that chokes out everything else thereby warping the meta around it.

  • @varelasensei
    @varelasensei 4 дні тому +1

    I like how we're glazing on pickrate/winrate stats when the patch hasnt even been out for a week.

  • @joshuaclouthier4405
    @joshuaclouthier4405 4 дні тому +14

    LS has trash takes, nothing new

    • @annaran85
      @annaran85 4 дні тому

      so does apa when he agreed upon most placements right?

    • @willmollard9078
      @willmollard9078 3 дні тому

      @@annaran85? We’re just gonna pretend as though apa is remotely relevant internationally?

  • @alexchad9301
    @alexchad9301 4 дні тому

    5000€ on blg now. if this fails ill sue you