American Football: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @PolyvinylRecords
    @PolyvinylRecords 5 років тому +1911

    sad toot

  • @cakredi4132
    @cakredi4132 5 років тому +3979

    I love the album *American Football* but I prefer the predecessor, *American Football.*
    Of course, neither can top the classic sound of *American Football.*

    • @cakredi4132
      @cakredi4132 5 років тому +14

      @qweas dzxvc Yessir.

    • @crowing3886
      @crowing3886 5 років тому +91

      I didn't get this joke till i looked up all their albums are the same name...
      I thought they only has 1 album this whole time.

    • @bigmidget117
      @bigmidget117 5 років тому +76

      Don’t forget American Football EP which is also very good

    • @kittxkat2499
      @kittxkat2499 5 років тому +82

      what about americ anfootball?

    • @zoogboog106
      @zoogboog106 5 років тому +28

      Lp 2 was so blah it hurt

  • @darryl2306
    @darryl2306 5 років тому +1656

    my favourite album by americ is anfootball (1999)

    • @CamKnoppMusic
      @CamKnoppMusic 5 років тому +16

      wat

    • @ieatfoodthatisgood
      @ieatfoodthatisgood 5 років тому +38

      @@CamKnoppMusic the '99 album picture cuts off the text so it reads americ
      an football

    • @musyarofah1
      @musyarofah1 5 років тому +39

      Hot take: anfootball (2015) by americ is underrated

    • @coreygarner92
      @coreygarner92 5 років тому +13

      @@musyarofah1 no your just wrong it goes
      LP1 - LP3 - LP2

    • @dwayneman9710
      @dwayneman9710 5 років тому

      hahahaha brilliant!

  • @swordsect
    @swordsect 5 років тому +335

    I just cried like a 41 year old man

  • @giovannir.9196
    @giovannir.9196 5 років тому +735

    They really uploaded this late at night. Sad boy hours.

  • @ryanhoward3028
    @ryanhoward3028 5 років тому +1899

    American Football, also known as Sad Dads

  • @syamilsyahiran4844
    @syamilsyahiran4844 4 роки тому +154

    “I blamed my father in my youth, now as a father i blamed the boozed” sad dad

  • @leahpeachie
    @leahpeachie 2 роки тому +104

    I love that cut at 16:54 to the bassist and drummer playing while the kids are singing. The look of pride and happiness is so earnest and so great to see.

    • @CarnuareVideo
      @CarnuareVideo 7 місяців тому

      Aren't they some kids of them? or at least that what they said in the KEXP live

  • @joshwi4193
    @joshwi4193 5 років тому +341

    I'm so glad they've kept making music, these guys are phenomenal.

  • @dwnlg565
    @dwnlg565 4 роки тому +74

    The children’s chorus was such a wonderful touch. Brought tears to my eyes. LP3 is amazing.

    • @TheseBitchesWantNikes
      @TheseBitchesWantNikes Місяць тому

      How many bands actually pull off the children's choir? They are one of the few to imo.

  • @saksilangit
    @saksilangit 5 років тому +451

    The only football I pay attention to

    • @christopherespinoza-darnel8514
      @christopherespinoza-darnel8514 3 місяці тому

      Futball* and the name Football America used to call their national sport was their way at attempting to dominate the world's football (which they failed miserably) and show how much America doesn't respect the rest of the world & its largest, most popular sport, Football, Futsal, or Futbol. Sadly America was so stubborn we decided to not change the name of our relatively new sport but instead change the name Football to Soccer.

    • @TheseBitchesWantNikes
      @TheseBitchesWantNikes Місяць тому

      Fr

  • @Koshirozation
    @Koshirozation 5 років тому +401

    THE EMO DADS TINY CLUB SHELF CONCERT

  • @MMAOnPoint
    @MMAOnPoint 5 років тому +301

    Super dope.

    • @artuszara2684
      @artuszara2684 4 роки тому +17

      MMA On Point man I love ur content so nice to see u here

    • @niyor3608
      @niyor3608 4 роки тому +6

      I wonder if it's jason

    • @stephenlangdon5797
      @stephenlangdon5797 4 роки тому +25

      Weird to see mma fans and American football fans overlapping lol

    • @Flyzoola
      @Flyzoola 4 роки тому +1

      @@stephenlangdon5797 I mean, it makes sense when you consider that Ben Rosett does their opening music

    • @Flyzoola
      @Flyzoola 4 роки тому +3

      WO POSTED THIS?! THE HEART? TOMMY TOEHOLD?!

  • @alistairhume6586
    @alistairhume6586 4 роки тому +83

    Those six adorable children are very lucky they get to say, "yeah, I sang with American Football at a Tiny Desk Concert Once."

  • @inkusaido
    @inkusaido 5 років тому +140

    00:00 "Every Wave To Ever Rise
    "
    07:53 "Uncomfortably Numb"
    12:21 "Heir Apparent"

  • @sale9667
    @sale9667 5 років тому +175

    I love the drummer so much. Always looks like he's giving it his best, having so much fun too. Interesting style too.

  • @devinfrench4924
    @devinfrench4924 5 років тому +953

    Does anyone realizes just how talented their bassist is? He deserves to be recongized more often. I thought he was lame af untill i realized..
    He plays so
    Tight and solid but insanely colorful note choice.
    (He actually sat down and PUT THOUGHT IN TO THE BASSLINES. they are super simple yet so damn effective with his colorful note choices.
    He has insanely good technique. His left and right hands are both relaxed. His freting technuique is so stretched out comfortable an the neck and
    he is so proper that no. Notes sound so consistent. it kills
    No Fret buzz.
    No bad tone.
    His picking technuique is so proffesional and constistent which fixes some notes sticking out in the mix tone.
    Keepin mathy time signatures on the back of his hand.. when he has to keep time forstrange minor fills.. dynamics in note length and note onterval was very proffesional.
    A + for holding back. Great use of your diffrent picking dynamics. and picking lenghts
    Hes no flee but he is no averge .

    • @00Kie00
      @00Kie00 5 років тому +45

      I KNOW I especially love in "Every Wave To Ever Rise" he keeps it simple from the start but then just changes a LITTLE bit during Elizabeth's verse and it changes the entire song mostly with different context to each instrument with the reharmonization.

    • @gloryxkid
      @gloryxkid 5 років тому +33

      He has a solo project called Birthmark that is incredible. He also played for Joan of arc here and there

    • @hapakek1
      @hapakek1 5 років тому +7

      +soothing voice

    • @omnifuturistic
      @omnifuturistic 5 років тому +52

      That's Nate Kinsella! He's an epic musician all around. He's also an incredible drummer and organ/piano player. Check out his drumming in Make Believe. Totally different band, but really highlights his playing.

    • @davidl.7027
      @davidl.7027 5 років тому +20

      Yeah, Nate Kinsella is a bad ass musician at everything he plays.

  • @jimson172
    @jimson172 5 років тому +545

    Shout outs to the xylophone guy. He's been practicing his entire life, waiting for this moment.

  • @DivaRockFaster
    @DivaRockFaster 5 років тому +356

    Disclaimer: No Sad Dad were Harmed in this video.

  • @joekentffc
    @joekentffc 3 роки тому +73

    there are certain moments in life that just require listening to this band

  • @gehteuchnichtsan7911
    @gehteuchnichtsan7911 Рік тому +7

    I got so much love for the drummer. Hes a mad genius.

  • @kellinpatler
    @kellinpatler 5 років тому +36

    Indie royalty. What an incredibly influential group of musicians.

  • @garrettsfoodreview1765
    @garrettsfoodreview1765 4 роки тому +11

    Trumpet, vibraphone, choir, this video has a jam sesh feel to it and I’m obsessed

  • @Mr__Snrub
    @Mr__Snrub 5 років тому +606

    At this point I’ve heard Never Meant so many times that I don’t care that they didn’t play it. Also, the new album is absolutely incredible so it’s a win either way.

    • @inflago
      @inflago 5 років тому +37

      Their whole current career is built on Never Meant, let's not kid ourselves. I love most of their stuff, don't get me wrong, but if it weren't for Never Meant they would be a somewhat forgotten band only appreciated by die hard 90s emo fans.

    • @edunogues23
      @edunogues23 5 років тому +25

      @@inflago true but imo its overrated. So many better songs in the 1st album(I still love it dont get me wrong)

    • @onelgalagedara4472
      @onelgalagedara4472 5 років тому +9

      Edu Nogués I agree with you to an extent! For example summer ends, I’ll see you when we both are not so emotional are some of my favs from that record

    • @inflago
      @inflago 5 років тому +16

      @@edunogues23 My personal favorite is "Stay Home," but we can't deny that they are sort of the one hit wonder of obscure bands. I'm so happy they are touring again, but the reason they are able to do that at all is because of "Never Meant."

    • @edunogues23
      @edunogues23 5 років тому

      @@inflago I guess the other songs on the album never meant much to people Dxx. Yeah I agree. And stay home is my fav too,such a beautiful track!

  • @LeandroSilva-nd7fz
    @LeandroSilva-nd7fz 5 років тому +49

    13:48 What a beautiful bass line ♥

    • @arseniy1329
      @arseniy1329 5 років тому +14

      Leandro Silva might as well have just said 00:00-18:16

  • @ZombieBatmanJesus
    @ZombieBatmanJesus 5 років тому +10

    Love the smiles on the band's face after the kids start singing. Amazing job, all of them.

  • @danielhortonmusic
    @danielhortonmusic Рік тому +5

    I always loved the back-and-forth play between the two vocalists on Uncomfortably Numb.

  • @fayedatfangirl2330
    @fayedatfangirl2330 4 роки тому +26

    Vibrophone fella making this quarantine much better.

  • @micropens
    @micropens 5 років тому +131

    What an honor to be here!! I first want to thank NPR music for providing me entertainment at 2am and American football.

  • @TheTruthVScompliance
    @TheTruthVScompliance 5 років тому +55

    Holy throw back, I listened to these guys in the 90s in high school!

    • @roemip
      @roemip 3 роки тому +2

      Their first album came out in ‘99...

    • @vaocl
      @vaocl 2 роки тому +1

      @@roemip they had stuff before that

    • @nyantend0
      @nyantend0 2 роки тому

      @@roemip the first EP came out in '98

    • @indi2544
      @indi2544 Рік тому

      @@roemip yea thats the 90s idiot

  • @maxblair3317
    @maxblair3317 Рік тому +4

    Crazy how these guys are astronomically more influential to music than people could ever know

  • @jellybingus416
    @jellybingus416 2 роки тому +24

    They xylophone added way more than I expected it too. Great performance.

    • @TheAluvisify
      @TheAluvisify 11 місяців тому +1

      That's a vibraphone. But yeah it's a cool instrument that can add a lot when you get a percussionist that understands it.

  • @musyarofah1
    @musyarofah1 5 років тому +18

    13:26 the combination of glockenspiel & melodica are just perfect

  • @norre_
    @norre_ Рік тому +7

    Listening to American Football on the radio, travelling the long interstates in a cold lonely night, true feeling of bliss.

  • @Hiby9
    @Hiby9 Рік тому +6

    I find it so amazing that they sound just as good live as they do on the track

  • @pgroadhouse6894
    @pgroadhouse6894 5 років тому +10

    The sheer beauty of the choir at the end almost had me in tears. 😀

  • @momomakusushimasu
    @momomakusushimasu 4 місяці тому +2

    steve's melodic phrasing is insanely good, especially for a career drummer

  • @kurdtjohn
    @kurdtjohn 4 роки тому +11

    Literal chills when the children choir comes in near the end of "Heir Apparent"

  • @andresarturo1230hot
    @andresarturo1230hot 4 роки тому +13

    I just keep coming back to this set. their latest album has been witness of all that ive been through these last 2 years. I dont know what it is, but their lyrics to me show a lot of nostalgia and sadness while their music makes me hopeful for the future.

  • @enlasrado1
    @enlasrado1 3 роки тому +12

    I've been listening to heir apparent in a loop for about an hour now. The kids chorus makes me wanna listen to it all over again

  • @milfutopia
    @milfutopia 5 років тому +101

    happy 2 see heir apparent get the recognition it deserves

    • @Lkease
      @Lkease 5 років тому +21

      heir is the best song from LP3 imo

    • @arseniy1329
      @arseniy1329 5 років тому +3

      Lukease rivaled by uncomfortably numb imp

    • @fyk365
      @fyk365 4 роки тому +5

      @@arseniy1329 doom in full bloom.

    • @danielcooke7089
      @danielcooke7089 4 роки тому +1

      Best song IMO

    • @everlot1000
      @everlot1000 4 роки тому +4

      The best song they’ve ever written Jesus christ

  • @TheLordQuasi
    @TheLordQuasi 5 років тому +23

    wow was not expecting this when I saw that lil notification. Bless you NPR Tiny Desk

  • @edoramcan5194
    @edoramcan5194 5 років тому +76

    I'm finishing work and studying, very tired.... And i saw this...I'm listening not expecting this awesome and emotionally powerful concert, i'm crying and i feel awake again!!
    I want to see my friends, share a beer with them
    I'm sure now that i have to tell her that i love her

    • @gustavoroman2214
      @gustavoroman2214 3 роки тому

      Well did you tell her?

    • @alexrocha6927
      @alexrocha6927 3 роки тому

      Yes , this song make me feeling like you describe in you post. The music of AF is soft and in same time heavy, sad and happy. I love this

  • @dbeatfan
    @dbeatfan 5 років тому +8

    I watched this like 30 times before they released it on UA-cam and it’s one of the most gorgeous things In the entire fucking world they’ve aged wonderfully and their music is so close to my heart

  • @lobsterbankerco5230
    @lobsterbankerco5230 5 років тому +14

    Oof that trumpet solo before uncomfortably numb gave me chills

  • @kattalasso
    @kattalasso 9 місяців тому +4

    Xylophonist stole the show, didn't think it could get any better. THen the drummer started playing trumpet, it was the best part, best ever. Then there was the man on the ganzá. Then Mike Kinsella was awsome, sublime, totally stole the show. It couldn't be topped. Then, oh! a melodica! Then the little person's chorus came in, and it was next level. Exatctly like on the record! Just totally stole the show. This

  • @dustincovert128
    @dustincovert128 4 роки тому +10

    the drummer loves his life

  • @BobSchoepenjr
    @BobSchoepenjr 5 років тому +114

    The musician hidden in the back is a very talented drumpet player.

    • @AnunakiGates
      @AnunakiGates 4 роки тому +4

      Bob Schoepen jr most appropriate dad joke award

    • @caseyvenus7751
      @caseyvenus7751 3 роки тому +1

      Steve Lammos

    • @itwasflavor-aid
      @itwasflavor-aid 3 роки тому +9

      He's also an English professor at University of Colorado Boulder.

    • @JuanFelipe.787
      @JuanFelipe.787 2 роки тому

      @@AnunakiGates The life of the party they tell you

  • @curtisbailey2766
    @curtisbailey2766 4 роки тому +460

    what’s with all these emo drummers being able to play trumpets

    • @messybedroom
      @messybedroom 4 роки тому +118

      ever wonder where all the sad ska kids went? they wound up drumming in emo bands.

    • @JeremiahFernandez
      @JeremiahFernandez 4 роки тому +35

      probably former marching band kids

    • @nicholasconklin9586
      @nicholasconklin9586 4 роки тому +29

      Emo kids know a lot of instruments. The singer of American Football was originally a drummer for an Emo band called Cap'n Jazz.

    • @greenteadude8958
      @greenteadude8958 3 роки тому +4

      I don't know why, but drummers who play trumpets seem so fricking cool to me.

    • @OmegaDJH
      @OmegaDJH 3 роки тому

      It’s crazy you say that because I transitioned from trumpet to drums lol

  • @gracerichardson7727
    @gracerichardson7727 5 років тому +172

    Shout out to all the vibe players! Who else was excited to see a vibraphone?

    • @curtblack686
      @curtblack686 5 років тому +9

      Grace Richardson the fact he uses a bow to play it at one point is awesome

    • @gracerichardson7727
      @gracerichardson7727 5 років тому +2

      @@curtblack686 Yes, that was awesome.

    • @gracerichardson7727
      @gracerichardson7727 5 років тому +18

      @C no thanks

    • @acurlyboi2944
      @acurlyboi2944 5 років тому +6

      Grace Richardson this guy am I right

    • @gracerichardson7727
      @gracerichardson7727 5 років тому +10

      @@acurlyboi2944 True, who trys to pick up girls through UA-cam comments anyway?

  • @LoveStallion
    @LoveStallion 8 місяців тому +2

    The end of Heir Apparent melts me.

  • @johnfglynn
    @johnfglynn 3 роки тому +5

    You see what great musicians these guys are at the last song “Heir Apparent.” So tight and crisp.

  • @joshtowers6102
    @joshtowers6102 4 роки тому +49

    More math/post rock would be nice on this show. I think chill mathy stuff works VERY well in this setting.

    • @mwmalecky
      @mwmalecky 9 місяців тому +1

      I think it's because that genre always sounds so dense in recordings that it's really impressive when you see just a few people making it happen live.

  • @MatrixEvolution17
    @MatrixEvolution17 5 років тому +267

    real emo hours, who up?

  • @storingjazzinmycheeksforth5319
    @storingjazzinmycheeksforth5319 5 років тому +7

    an emo cheer of joy from someone too young to have experienced emo in its prime, but still gets to listen to new americ anfootball

  • @cocostarfish5018
    @cocostarfish5018 5 років тому +20

    I'm astonished. I just discovered American Football like three days ago, and they are on Tiny Desk a day later. I am one with the Ebb and flow.

  • @hasenpfefferoni
    @hasenpfefferoni 5 років тому +81

    This NPR Tiny Desk Concert performance by _American Football_ was *NEVER MEANT*

  • @slipperyeyesband6218
    @slipperyeyesband6218 5 років тому +15

    Wow, that ending was phenomenal!

  • @sherilynn
    @sherilynn 5 років тому +8

    Love those kids

  • @elias321456
    @elias321456 5 років тому +241

    Now we need a Owen Tiny Desk Concert

    • @jjjjasonnnn
      @jjjjasonnnn 5 років тому +33

      elias321456 Hopefully they’ll play my favorite Owen song, Never Meant.

    • @aidenyang2456
      @aidenyang2456 5 років тому +9

      This was an Owen Tiny Desk concert

    • @elias321456
      @elias321456 5 років тому +2

      @@aidenyang2456 yes but no

    • @puddlesplashers
      @puddlesplashers 5 років тому +6

      They need a capn jazz tiny desk lol

    • @biggtk
      @biggtk 5 років тому +12

      The last time I mentioned Owen on an American Football video, people were like "Who the f*ck is Owen???" Smh lol.

  • @Bhaggy_
    @Bhaggy_ 4 роки тому +3

    BRO, EVERY TIME I LISTEN TO THIS THE SAD TOOT MAKES ME CRY

  • @brmpbrmp
    @brmpbrmp 4 роки тому +6

    The kids were so good!!

  • @awoods2874
    @awoods2874 11 місяців тому +1

    I love the trumpet interlude

  • @oscarx11
    @oscarx11 5 років тому +11

    i love the trumpet solo ❤️

  • @jeremywadsworth2957
    @jeremywadsworth2957 5 років тому +4

    LP 3 was my favourite album in 2019. I have listened to it cover to cover so many times.

  • @BachMaiMusic
    @BachMaiMusic 5 років тому +31

    The childrens choir

  • @xinthisdiaryx
    @xinthisdiaryx 5 років тому +85

    Now as a father I blame the booze

  • @Marcel-mx4gs
    @Marcel-mx4gs 5 років тому +69

    9:20
    'Now im struggling to make sushi', says subtitles.
    I thought it was funny enough to share :).

  • @baktimau
    @baktimau 5 років тому +140

    omg its my favorite band americ
    anfootball

  • @ggthewhale
    @ggthewhale 5 років тому +83

    Is that Laura Dern on backing vocals

  • @jennifer7chan
    @jennifer7chan 5 років тому +8

    We've been waiting 20 years for this

  • @jeremythomas4660
    @jeremythomas4660 5 років тому +121

    Thought Hayley Williams would be there for Uncomfortably Numb, would have been magical. Still good

    • @goodies871
      @goodies871 3 роки тому +1

      Idk if i would be able to stop watching it tbh

  • @437pm
    @437pm 2 місяці тому +1

    La interpretación de ella le da mucho caracter a la presentación, sobretodo en la parte del puente de la canción Uncomfortably Numb, suena realmente genial y transmite mucha emoción. Bravo. Saludos desde Valdivia, Chile.

  • @charlesgreenhouse2465
    @charlesgreenhouse2465 3 місяці тому +2

    Great now im crying at work

  • @julianb4245
    @julianb4245 4 роки тому +4

    Xylophone guy is making a huge living now, and that's thanks to getting good grades and participating in high school band percussion.

  • @EddySelflessx
    @EddySelflessx 5 років тому +12

    wow, that was a really nice set

  • @iamthew0lf
    @iamthew0lf 5 років тому +71

    I’ve never wanted to play the xylophone so bad in my life.

  • @BreakbeatD17
    @BreakbeatD17 5 років тому +5

    This is so great to see I love American Football😄. Thank you tiny desk and American Foottball for the great night jam vibes😌🤙🏻.

  • @papapinguinorecords
    @papapinguinorecords 5 років тому +8

    Esto es TODO lo que está bien, una banda uniendo a todas las generaciones.... para eso hacemos música. Increible

  • @Zgamer7
    @Zgamer7 4 роки тому +1

    They music been pinching my Soul since 2017. Man i love these guys.

  • @JimChristopherGovea
    @JimChristopherGovea 5 років тому +61

    From sad boys to sad dads.... How sad.....

  • @PhokenKuul
    @PhokenKuul 5 років тому +4

    God, thank you for this. I didn't even know I was missing this. I bought their debut years and years ago. Guess I need to track this one down now. But first I need to get my heart out of my throat.

  • @kramnhoj42
    @kramnhoj42 5 років тому +1

    Oh the vibes and chills.

  • @Wunderbarcreepypasta
    @Wunderbarcreepypasta 2 роки тому +3

    uncomforably numb is such a good song

  • @gtaylor3350
    @gtaylor3350 5 років тому +34

    Haven’t seen anybody mention this yet but the drummer’s facial expressions are hilarious lol

    • @lakai958
      @lakai958 5 років тому +15

      Steve Lamos is always locked in that groove yo

  • @numbskulldiecastracing
    @numbskulldiecastracing 8 місяців тому +2

    Pure good.

  • @isaackizzz5254
    @isaackizzz5254 5 років тому +1

    This is too beautiful. I’m obsessed with this video

  • @demit189
    @demit189 4 роки тому +3

    This is such a beautiful rendition. This is probably my favorite contemporary band.

  • @alguemmemataporfavor
    @alguemmemataporfavor 4 роки тому +1

    even after two decades, this melancolic melodies hit me in the same way

  • @arrenregretsnothing5776
    @arrenregretsnothing5776 5 років тому +1

    i will forever and always love american football

  • @theaveragesquire
    @theaveragesquire 5 років тому +5

    love the new stuff they're putting out

  • @thehairysun8897
    @thehairysun8897 5 років тому +4

    American football! Like my first indie band I feel in love with back in early 2000's

  • @eddiedeli
    @eddiedeli 4 роки тому +46

    My man's snare drum is set up lower than my standards

  • @loejewis
    @loejewis 5 років тому +5

    Mike's vocals solid in this

  • @musarafael6962
    @musarafael6962 5 років тому +10

    Heir Apparent so fooking emotional! WOHOOOOOO!!!

  • @boatbiscuit
    @boatbiscuit Рік тому +1

    Sarah Versprille has such a lovely and unique voice, she killed the guest vocals on these tracks

  • @Pocketwaterproductions
    @Pocketwaterproductions 5 років тому +14

    Just went to check npr tiny desk to see if anyone interesting has popped up in the past few weeks and they casually drop my favorite emo band in the mix

  • @jacobthompson3752
    @jacobthompson3752 5 років тому +79

    Guy vibing out on a xylophone........
    I’m in

    • @jcbdwsn
      @jcbdwsn 5 років тому +5

      vibraphone but yesss

    • @Lkease
      @Lkease 5 років тому +9

      vibing out... on the vibraphone

    • @KatelynG781
      @KatelynG781 5 років тому

      Such a beautiful instrument✨

    • @pixussb7524
      @pixussb7524 5 років тому

      He really be vibin doe 😳😳

    • @TheLoneDeranger
      @TheLoneDeranger 5 років тому

      I'm pretty sure that's the same guy they had a couple years back when I saw them. Everyone in the audience was gassing him up after someone asked a question about him. He got a round of applause as he left the stage.

  • @clox_457
    @clox_457 Місяць тому

    my three favorite songs

  • @BURNANNATOR
    @BURNANNATOR 5 років тому +20

    Who’s cutting onions? 😭