P90: The Weird SMG That Became A Gaming Icon - Loadout

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  • From Goldeneye 007 to Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare via Stargate SG-1, the FN P90 has cemented itself as one of the most iconic SMGs in pop culture. With the help of Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, we break down what makes this unique PDW so iconic, and why games have embraced this weird little SMG.
    In this episode of Loadout, Dave Jewitt visits the Royal Armouries to talk to Keeper of Firearms & Artillery Jonathan Ferguson to chat about one of pop culture’s most iconic submachine guns, the P90.
    You can check out more episodes of Loadout right here. - • How Games Are Lying To...
    You can check out our Firearms Expert Reacts series here. - • Firearms Expert Reacts...
    If you're interested in seeing more of Jonathan's work, you can check out more from the Royal Armouries right here. - / royalarmouries
    If you would like to support the Royal Armouries, you can make a charitable donation to the museum here. - royalarmouries...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 738

  • @fulopistvan5578
    @fulopistvan5578 Рік тому +31

    The SG-1 reference in the video is so nice. Love that the comments section is full with comments about the show. So many epic memories.

  • @jiubboatman9352
    @jiubboatman9352 Рік тому +1245

    One of my Favourite lines in any show was; the Jaffa staff is a weapon of terror, the P90 is a weapon of war.

    • @michaelkukula5926
      @michaelkukula5926 Рік тому +24

      I was just about to comment this. :-) great scene.

    • @daschawk
      @daschawk Рік тому +70

      SG-1 is full of amazing lines! Glad to see someone pointed it out!!

    • @liamzakhaev
      @liamzakhaev Рік тому +45

      @footingguzthaiusa3871 Maybe don't post run on sentences with no bearing to the original comment?

    • @ph2194
      @ph2194 Рік тому +8

      That one is a classic.

    • @MariusBolldude
      @MariusBolldude Рік тому +13

      Oh yea ! 👍 Somehow it took me ages to realize, that most of the human weapon systems are far superior to the goa'uld's...its because their behavior, armors and weapons and last but not least, voices are intimidating...but they get bushwacked by human weapons all the time...at least in close quarter combat...the goa'uld have space ships and teleportation and their hand thingys with healing capabilities...so they have that 😅

  • @Azeria
    @Azeria Рік тому +26

    I suppose the closest thing to what Dave’s talking about at 6:50 is the creatively named AR-57, which uses P90 magazines on an AR-15 compatible upper. Means less re-training for those already familiar with AR-10/15 derived platforms. Which has made its way into some video games, notably the COD MW reboots, although that didn’t save the company that created it.

    • @woltews
      @woltews Рік тому

      I dont think that is mechanically possible unless you modify the ar so extensively you are going to have to retrain everybody anyway ( the gas mechanism for the ar is on the top of the bolt and the trigger mechanism comes up from the bottom )

    • @chris.3711
      @chris.3711 Рік тому +9

      ​@@woltews Nope, there is an AR called the AR-57.uses a stock lower and a special upper. It's pretty sweet.

    • @BackwardsPancake
      @BackwardsPancake Рік тому +2

      True. That aside, the only other "magazine on top" gun that I can think of that's even vaguely similar is the HK G11.

    • @woltews
      @woltews Рік тому

      @@chris.3711 ah it has 0 parts compatibility with a true AR and therefor you are retraining your troops

    • @Azeria
      @Azeria Рік тому +5

      @@woltews this comment wasn’t hypothetical, it’s a real product that was made

  • @Ch4osWe4veR
    @Ch4osWe4veR Рік тому +3

    I first saw the P90 in SG-1 as a kid like so many others apparently, and I was surprised when I found out it was a real-world gun. I originally thought it was just a fictional prop for the show because it looked so sci-fi. I've been excited when it and weapons inspired by it have appeared in any games and movies. I had a period where I got into casual airsoft with my friends, and I mainly ran an automatic electric P90 where the magazine was a hopper that held an insane amount of BBs. My friends actually thought it was unfair because most of them used M4s and things with conventional magazines and had to reload while I kept spraying lol. Downside was when it got somewhat low on BS it would feed a lot less reliably.

  • @Shield-Metal
    @Shield-Metal Рік тому +45

    My fav SMG hands down ….. mostly thanks to SG1

  • @CptVein
    @CptVein Рік тому +3

    I'm rewatching SG1 at the moment and one thing that stuck me is how long it takes for them to get their P90s.
    I thought they got them season 2 but they actually get them almost halfway through season 4.

  • @RogerWazup007
    @RogerWazup007 Рік тому +2

    The P90 became one of my favorite guns after playing GoldenEye and later Battlefield 3.

  • @ferrynoc
    @ferrynoc Рік тому +3

    I like all the packed-in bullets the p90 has, looks very neat. Also more bullets equals more shooty per cartridge

    • @Very_Nice_and_Polite_Person
      @Very_Nice_and_Polite_Person Рік тому +2

      *shooty per magazine. A cartridge is a single bullet, powder, and casing.

    • @ferrynoc
      @ferrynoc Рік тому +2

      @@Very_Nice_and_Polite_Person ah my bad, thanks

  • @tecshotzyt
    @tecshotzyt Рік тому

    bro seeing the clips from stargate in here was the dose of serotonin i needed at 3:00am

  • @ianhowell958
    @ianhowell958 Рік тому +3

    Love P90 been using it since Jagged Alliance 2

  • @NOOSE2008
    @NOOSE2008 Рік тому +1

    Gta tbogt was my favourite p90 and the first p90 I ever saw, it became my favourite smg, along with the MP5SD

  • @MasterGeekMX
    @MasterGeekMX Рік тому +1

    I'm a simple stargate fan. I see P90, I watch video.

  • @r4z0r84
    @r4z0r84 Рік тому +1

    First time i saw it was Stargate sg1 when the chick was demonstrating it to the aliens and that's when i decided it was my favourite weapon of all time.

  • @nycameleon
    @nycameleon Рік тому

    For games like CS:GO the short barrel, based on hand position, makes it great to hide around the corner, without giving away your position.

  • @4shotpastas
    @4shotpastas Рік тому +2

    I have always loved the P90, wish I could own one

  • @thrixu
    @thrixu Рік тому +1

    And made in Belgium ! Fn Herstal love

  • @skeven0
    @skeven0 Рік тому

    Yet another iconic weapon from FN Herstal in Belgium, Along with the SCAR, FAL, the FiveseveN pistol,Minimi (M249SAW0
    Being the workplace of John Moses Browning for he longest time

  • @The-Master-Shake
    @The-Master-Shake Рік тому

    Crazy to think all these “space age” looking weapons that were all pretty new around the time I was a kid are now roughly 30 years old at least xD

  • @XenoSpyro
    @XenoSpyro Рік тому +1

    Slightly disappointed there wasn't a reference and meltdown to FarCry 1's P90 sharing ammo with the MP5SD.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому

      That's a bit of artistic licence in that game. It makes the P90 extremely effective there while the MP5SD is far less so.

  • @TransistorBased
    @TransistorBased Рік тому

    Hey, he actually got the name right! It doesn't actually come from 'Project 1990' like a lot of people think. It's a project number internal to FN. They had the name down early in production- obviously there's no way they would have known what year the project would be completed.

  • @DamienDrake2940
    @DamienDrake2940 Рік тому

    One of the things that really kept this weapon from widespread adoption IRL is Germany blocking NATO from official declaring the P90 and the 5.7×28mm round the winner of its PDW contract. Now that Germany has gotten out of the way, other ammo and weapon makers are looking at the projectile. Working to improve it and release their own systems that utilize it. I wouldn't be surprised if FN releases an updated version of the P90 in a few years.

  • @sangay9361
    @sangay9361 Рік тому

    The problem with the p90 and the five seven pistol is that the price of the ammunition is very high. 500 rounds cost you around 400$ while 1000 rounds of 9mm cost less than 300$

  • @sike3000
    @sike3000 Рік тому +1

    11:47 tell that to Teal'c in the later seasons of SG1

  • @K_Cale
    @K_Cale Рік тому

    The reason why rainbow 6 siege operators might had taped the p90 magazine was to conceal amount of rounds left, to reduce tactical information provided to enemies. Whether that was what the developers was trying to portray though is a separate issue haha.

  • @Pouk3D
    @Pouk3D Рік тому +1

    I didn't feel Dave gave a lot of space to Jonathan Ferguson here. It seems he wanted to talk about the niche origin/purpose and maybe other things.

  • @luvaanima
    @luvaanima Рік тому

    Llenn and P-Chan would be proud:D

  • @believeinmatter
    @believeinmatter Рік тому

    One of the coolest and most iconic weapons of all time, it’s still my favourite weapon in the new Call of Duty

  • @omarrp14
    @omarrp14 Рік тому

    11:28 I would think that honor goes to the MP7. Plenty of SWAT/special police use them, the US tier 1&2 forces and seen limited use of it, and I’ve seen armed police use them in London, also German issues them in a limited role.

  • @fremzter
    @fremzter Рік тому

    Back in CS 1, I used to call this gun the chocolate bar lol

  • @twrampage
    @twrampage Рік тому

    I take it that Teal'c is going to be making an appearance in the akimbo episode?

  • @Cordovan
    @Cordovan Рік тому

    no mention of it playing a key role in the final battle of Ghost in the Shell 😢😢

  • @Dhips.
    @Dhips. Рік тому

    Inside you there are two SMGs fighting. One is the MP5, the other is the P90.

  • @InugamiTheHound
    @InugamiTheHound Рік тому

    Steyr AUG should be next up for this series or try bolt action weapon like lee enfield rifle?

  • @theleaf4
    @theleaf4 Рік тому

    I just like the top reload

  • @lorocko_3665
    @lorocko_3665 Рік тому

    Could we imagine this video having an XboxAhoy voice cameo with the gun expert

  • @MsUltrafox
    @MsUltrafox Рік тому

    9 out of 10 times in a game you die because you had to reload.
    Because while you reload you can not defend yourself by shooting back.
    So more rounds mean less reloading means a better survival rate.

  • @sykoteddy
    @sykoteddy Рік тому

    This brings back so awesome memories from Counter-Strike back in the day. But that graphic/game-engine in Goldeneye was just hideous 🤣

  • @supergangsterish1234
    @supergangsterish1234 Рік тому +1

    I mean, if you're gonna have Jonathan on this, maybe just let him talk?

  • @christang9406
    @christang9406 Рік тому

    huge mag & bullet per minute, definitely thats all i know from cs

  • @rainmanslim4611
    @rainmanslim4611 Рік тому

    The only drawback to the p90 and I mean the ONLY drawback (imo) is the price of the ammo.

  • @Mr_T_Badger
    @Mr_T_Badger Рік тому

    I’m surprised nobody has mentioned the ammo issue in goldeneye yet. Apparently they were working in Hexadecimal and when they put the 50 in for the ammo, it came out as 80 instead. I’m not sure if they ever realised their mistake or just thought it was too funny to change but that’s why it had such a whopper of a magazine size.

  • @krayne2084
    @krayne2084 Рік тому

    I never even gave a single braincell to think about how the P90 ejects rounds lol
    NEVER thought to look at the bottom of the gun even in VR games

  • @jup331
    @jup331 Рік тому +552

    In one SG-1 episode they have their clones/robot doubles doing missions and you see them going through the Stargate and i thought "Hey, why are they carrying MP5s again?". It made sense because the robots didnt have the newer P90s and was so happy they put the detail into the show.
    My gf and i are rewatching the whole SG-1 series right now and im glad it still holds up.

    • @tyrongkojy
      @tyrongkojy Рік тому +13

      I never realized that. Good catch.

    • @blarg35
      @blarg35 Рік тому +16

      That show other than the CGI ages like fine wine

    • @jasonjayalap
      @jasonjayalap Рік тому +22

      I said "they filmed this one out of order and didn't think we'd notice the old guns? Sloppy sloppy" during my rewatch a few days ago. Silly me.

    • @tyrongkojy
      @tyrongkojy Рік тому +5

      @@blarg35 even the cg is perfectly god 99% of the time.

    • @stretchloco7211
      @stretchloco7211 Рік тому +7

      Sg-1 is the reason I love the p-90

  • @CRAM079
    @CRAM079 Рік тому +108

    Stargate SG-1 was my first taste of the P90 and I've loved it ever since.

    • @Balc0ra
      @Balc0ra Рік тому +3

      First place I also did see the MP7 on screen that they had for a little while.

    • @unkledoda420
      @unkledoda420 Рік тому +1

      Same here. I also remember it from the Syphon Filter games on the first PlayStation back in the late 90's.

  • @tjmiller9567
    @tjmiller9567 Рік тому +301

    Jonathan Ferguson is becoming an icon. He needs a channel of his own

    • @tjmiller9567
      @tjmiller9567 Рік тому +8

      @@AR-GuidesAndMore i onow. I think he'd do well maybe going over the entire histories of different types of weapons. Like bows. Or artillery. Maybe even military vehicles and ships. I'd watch that. He's cool and does his reasearch

    • @MrThejograt
      @MrThejograt Рік тому +24

      @@tjmiller9567 he would be good there but his expertise lies within firearms mostly. There are others within in the Royal Armories that have more expertise on other types of weapons

    • @tjmiller9567
      @tjmiller9567 Рік тому +4

      @@MrThejograt again, i know. I guess i like his delivery and his ability to make data interesting. Maybe collaborating on stuff?

    • @masterbaiter274
      @masterbaiter274 Рік тому +15

      The British version of guns Jesus

    • @smith7602
      @smith7602 Рік тому +10

      @@masterbaiter274 Gun King Arthur

  • @Novaerian
    @Novaerian Рік тому +479

    This series feels like a continuation of iconic arms, and I'm all for it

    • @TheSundayShooter
      @TheSundayShooter Рік тому +23

      Would dare to outright call it a _successor_

    • @holykuhmeinefresse
      @holykuhmeinefresse Рік тому +69

      Information-wise I agree, but for me Icon Arms' audio-visual presentation and style is slicker and more satisfying. No offense to Jonathan of course.

    • @Skidracer21
      @Skidracer21 Рік тому +42

      Just need Stuart 'Ahoy' Brown to appear in an episode

    • @Novaerian
      @Novaerian Рік тому +33

      @@holykuhmeinefresse Without a question, stylisation of iconic arms is god-tier, but with an actual physical example for some of the guns, and an exploration of the weapon, it's a nice extra addition to go with iconic arms

    • @richie_0740
      @richie_0740 Рік тому +6

      @hecate1421 ohhh i wonder how ahoy is doing, his next video is an iconic arms episode i think

  • @LowieDM
    @LowieDM Рік тому +122

    Whenever Jonathan talks about FN weapons not being adopted as standard service weapons I get the feeling he forgets the belgian armed forces exist. P90 is a widely used standard service weapon there and scar is now the main service rifle. You may add your belgium isn’t real comments now

    • @moikeeee_
      @moikeeee_ Рік тому +33

      I think what he mostly meant is that the gun was never adopted as standard service weapon by NATO.
      You can also watch Ahoy's video about the P90. I think he covered the gun's history better...

    • @chaimafaghet7343
      @chaimafaghet7343 Рік тому +25

      Belgium is literally not a real country.

    • @jasonjayalap
      @jasonjayalap Рік тому

      belgian armed forces aren't real

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 Рік тому +20

      Belgium isn't real. It's just part of the Netherlands.

    • @Cyrribrae
      @Cyrribrae Рік тому +12

      Sorry, is this a meme I don't know? Why is Belgium not a real country, despite, you know, being a real country?

  • @silvershock2353
    @silvershock2353 Рік тому +99

    to be honest it was not video games where i fell in love with this weapon it was its use in Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis.
    BTW i like how in the opening part of this video they laterally use stargate footage and audio to describe the weapon.

    • @alastairward2774
      @alastairward2774 Рік тому +2

      I didn't even remember they didn't have the gun from the very start, I thought they just had it all along.

    • @tecshotzyt
      @tecshotzyt Рік тому

      amen

  • @staticaleel5068
    @staticaleel5068 Рік тому +286

    Remember, the p90 is so famous it somehow found its way into splatoon of all games as the second splatoon’s hero shot. I repeat, this real gun made its way into a children’s game about shooting ink out of toys. What a legacy! Can’t say that about the ak or 1911.

    • @sharkwaffle1582
      @sharkwaffle1582 Рік тому +35

      I know, right? Splatoon consistently has the most creative fictional weapons design in video game history, and the fact that Agent 4 was given a yellow P90 speaks volumes to how iconic it is

    • @levelcheap2435
      @levelcheap2435 Рік тому +26

      Tbf, AK is probably considered a "scary" gun, due to it's bad association

    • @fireaza
      @fireaza Рік тому +5

      "Children's game" is a bit of a stretch. Since the game features street culture and fashion so predominately, it looks to me like it's aimed at teens.

    • @emperorfaiz
      @emperorfaiz Рік тому +3

      Maybe the design is weird enough to be included in the game and sorta blends in with other weird weapons.

    • @UrMomsSuperRichEx
      @UrMomsSuperRichEx Рік тому +2

      AK is seen as a terrorist weapon

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion8739 Рік тому +68

    Not really a gun nut but when Stargate SG-1 was mentioned I had to watch this. And Jonathan Ferguson never disappoints. And now I'm looking forward to the akimbo episode because I do remember Teal'c dual wielding the P90 at least once.

    • @mosh.4245
      @mosh.4245 Рік тому +4

      it become what he did in later seasons.

    • @derrickhappytree
      @derrickhappytree Рік тому

      Bruce Willis duel wields them in the movie "Looper"

    • @TheJosephegould
      @TheJosephegould Рік тому

      @@mosh.4245 Yeah but i see that with the Jafa's better strength, dual wielding could work, whereas a normal human would have much more trouble with the recoil.

  • @davidcsimon
    @davidcsimon Рік тому +46

    It boggles the mind that we never got a Stargate FPS , it would have been a perfect fit.

    • @jiubboatman9352
      @jiubboatman9352 Рік тому +7

      There was an MMO in development. But money ran out I believe. Stargate worlds.
      Stargate timekeepers is in development . Turn based strategy.

    • @Yoel_Mizrachi
      @Yoel_Mizrachi Рік тому +1

      Wasn't there Stargate resistance video game in the making?

    • @momokochama1844
      @momokochama1844 Рік тому +7

      Let's rephrase that a bit:
      I'ts mind boggling we never got ANY decent Stargate game.
      (aside from that "not so decent" jump'&'run on snes and genesis)

    • @DizRupTnz
      @DizRupTnz Рік тому +7

      When was the last time a Stargate game _didn't_ get cancelled during development?
      For such a popular IP it's almost cursed when it comes to spin offs or continuations. Even the potential series revival got canned last year when Amazon bought out MGM.

    • @mechadeka
      @mechadeka Рік тому +3

      How has nobody mentioned the canceled Stargate SG-1: The Alliance? That was an FPS game being developed for PC, PS2, and Xbox. There's plenty of videos of it on UA-cam.

  • @robertbreedlovecraft
    @robertbreedlovecraft Рік тому +202

    I wish this series would acknowledge the Metal Gear games more often. Solidus spinning a p90 like a pistol is such an indelible image

    • @renotarshil1224
      @renotarshil1224 Рік тому +14

      I came here to mention this specifically.

    • @SuperhotdogZz
      @SuperhotdogZz Рік тому +40

      P90 really fits into that MGS2 aesthetics.

    • @marinsalazar3364
      @marinsalazar3364 Рік тому +2

      It was the first time I seen one

    • @Dhips.
      @Dhips. Рік тому +16

      the Frog's in MGS4 also use them. It was my go to gun in that game once I found one. MGS4 was like pokemon with guns. I had to collect them all.

    • @SpaceMissile
      @SpaceMissile Рік тому +7

      had to search it; that was a badass little spin

  • @MariusBolldude
    @MariusBolldude Рік тому +92

    Stargate SG1 made this gun legendary ! 🤩

    • @Scantronacon
      @Scantronacon Рік тому +5

      Yoooo!!! Facts!!!

    • @taylorh.3484
      @taylorh.3484 Рік тому +3

      GoldenEye64 did as well.

    • @thribs
      @thribs Рік тому

      @@taylorh.3484That was more the “pencil” gun there

  • @Finetales
    @Finetales Рік тому +33

    The P90 will always be the Stargate gun to me. When I started playing Counter Strike I was immediately drawn to the P90 because of SG-1 and have loved it ever since.

  • @michaelkukula5926
    @michaelkukula5926 Рік тому +6

    I love seeing so many SG-1 fans in the comments section.

  • @KayoMichiels
    @KayoMichiels Рік тому +46

    "The P90... Future Vision... Exotic Caliber.... Kingslayer...." -(Xbox)Ahoy

    • @SkarrGaming
      @SkarrGaming Рік тому +5

      I miss his videos

    • @greenhowie
      @greenhowie Рік тому +4

      @@SkarrGaming he's still making them, it's just him by himself so they take a while to make.

    • @KayoMichiels
      @KayoMichiels Рік тому +3

      @@greenhowie Indeed! When he releases a video... UA-cam Audiences listen!

    • @horaciochala8335
      @horaciochala8335 Рік тому +1

      @@greenhowie really I thought he stiopped after his flamethrower vid?

  • @SuperMandibleclaw
    @SuperMandibleclaw Рік тому +342

    Jonathan Ferguson is literally the only person carrying this channel

    • @naenaemister5048
      @naenaemister5048 Рік тому +5

      i don’t think they care tbh

    • @I_recommend_suicide
      @I_recommend_suicide Рік тому +50

      Dave deserves some credit too I think. The Robin to Jonathan's Batman

    • @Vanq17
      @Vanq17 Рік тому +27

      *Dave and Jonathan
      But yeah, these are the only videos I even watch on Gamespot's channel.

    • @pneumaticFrequency
      @pneumaticFrequency Рік тому +21

      Is he the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum?

    • @Yin2K
      @Yin2K Рік тому +12

      This exact same comment appears more often then Jonathan himself

  • @PewPew_McPewster
    @PewPew_McPewster Рік тому +61

    As a kid I loved the P90 in Counter strike, it looked so cool and was so sci-fi even down to its unique loading mechanism. I never thought of it as realistic or functional so my mind was blown researching into this piece and learning how actually it had loads of tactical advantages like the downward bullet ejection or the fact that keeping track of your rounds is easy. And apparently it doesn't jam much despite the wacky feed mechanism! Truly a marvel of engineering.

    • @YeeSoest
      @YeeSoest Рік тому +4

      I fell in love with the looks and the easy correcting for recoil (straight up, slowly pull down and you're golden!) made the P90 my go to gun in many cases. My favorite SMG and it even radiates to the point where the 5-7 is my favorite pistol just because it uses the same ammo

    • @jeffbenton6183
      @jeffbenton6183 Рік тому +7

      @@YeeSoest In addition to all the other advantages, it seems to me that more police units should carry the P90 and 5-7 because there's less of a risk of stray bullets. The rounds, though (soft) armor-piercing, are lighter than typical 9mm pistol rounds, so they lose energy earlier, so they don't go as far in the event of a miss (though, being faster, they also keep a flatter trajectory longer, making them easier to aim). Although, I don't shoot much, so I guess people can take what I say with a grain of salt.

    • @thomaswalmsley8959
      @thomaswalmsley8959 Рік тому +1

      @@jeffbenton6183 it's probably a combo of 2 things.
      1) cost p90s are fairly expensive, ARs are cheap in America.
      2) it's my understanding also that once the police need to use something longer and packs more of punch, you might as well just get a rifle with an intermediate round, so logical just defaults to AR rifles, instead of weird "super" pistol rounds made to penatrate body armor (which isn't a concern for cops). But the biggest is probably reason #1.

  • @NQR-9000
    @NQR-9000 Рік тому +150

    Certainly the best interplanetary belgian export!

    • @skeven0
      @skeven0 Рік тому +13

      For such a small country (in size) it sure has a lot of iconic firearms from FN, the SCAR & the FAL

    • @Theycallmeyoshi1
      @Theycallmeyoshi1 Рік тому +19

      @@skeven0 Fabrique Nationale know what they're doing, it seems.
      as a jokey sort of aside, I just kinda realised they're kinda caught between two worlds, French creativity and weirdness (as Ian said: The French copy no one and no one copies the french) and German efficiency and superlative design.

    • @MrKinir
      @MrKinir Рік тому

      Fabrique Nationale has nothing to do with France.

    • @skeven0
      @skeven0 Рік тому +3

      @@MrKinir yep, but it is in the french speaking region of belgium,

    • @Theycallmeyoshi1
      @Theycallmeyoshi1 Рік тому

      @@MrKinir I know and understand that, but I figured they're a small nation of french speaking people sandwiched between France who is known for kooky weird but oddly functional designs and Germany who are known for robust if a mite complex engineering.
      given the P90, and the other slightly odd but very solid, groundbreaking and popular firearms Fabrique Nationale has produced, I was thinking the environment might beget a mindset that might explain some of that.
      of course, one should never forget the sheer creativity and technical genius+knowhow of the engineers there past and present (J. M. Browning comes to mind) but as I saw it, like many things, geography contributes more than you think to so many things.

  • @TrueYankeeFan
    @TrueYankeeFan Рік тому +53

    When I was 13, my older brother took me to a shooting range that had a P90 available for rent, full-auto and everything. Everyone there was using handguns, so when we started shooting a fun-switch gun, everyone stopped for a moment to check it out. It was such a cool experience and it's been my favorite SMG/PDW ever since.

  • @spazda_mx5
    @spazda_mx5 Рік тому +124

    Surely a classic of industrial design, functionally and aesthetically.

    • @EricBrown-uu3nc
      @EricBrown-uu3nc Рік тому +3

      Agreed, I recommend shooting it at least once in a lifetime. Love the recoil.

    • @jehoiakimelidoronila5450
      @jehoiakimelidoronila5450 Рік тому +4

      "love the recoil"
      ... Which is basically non-existent

  • @boxhead6177
    @boxhead6177 Рік тому +34

    There is a story being told that Stargate SG1 ended up buying so much blank and live ammunition that it was difficult for other owners of P90s to actually get ammunition, including law enforcement and military. In later season's they had to switch the characters to "other guns" for heavy shooting scenes cause they couldn't get blank ammo at all.

    • @nutbastard
      @nutbastard Рік тому +2

      Silly armorer on set didn't think to save the brass and reload it? Tsk tsk.

    • @chinabluewho
      @chinabluewho Рік тому +9

      As someone who owns a gun that shoots 5.7 ammo , getting ammo is the main reason the 5.7 hasn't exploded in popularity, at a dollar a round it is preeemo ammo compared to being able to get 50 rounds of 9mm for 15 dollars on when its on sale.

    • @generalilbis
      @generalilbis Рік тому +4

      I think ammo availability had a big effect on what guns got showcased in Stargate SG1 and Atlantis in general...I've heard tell that another big reason why the P90 became the primary PDW or close-combat weapon in SG1 was that the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq drove 9mm supply through the roof early on and the production team was struggling to get 9mm blank ammo...but there was a lot more 5.7mm available because of the smaller operational use of weapons firing that round.

    • @freetobe3
      @freetobe3 Рік тому +3

      @@generalilbis also, later on in the SG1 seasons and movies, Atlantis and Universe too, 5.56 based firearms became much more dominant. I'm betting it's because the AR shot up in popularity in the civilian crowd, the production of 5.56 was stabilizing as the war in Afghanistan carried on so it became easier and cheaper to use them. The G-36 was heavily featured throughout Atlantis and by the end of the show it was pretty much the common alternative to the P90. In Universe I can't even remember seeing the P90 at all.

    • @victorwaddell6530
      @victorwaddell6530 Рік тому

      @@chinabluewho I own an FN PS90, a Ruger 57 , and a 1911A1 chambered in 10mm Automatic . Being ahead of the curve is costly .

  • @iceberg4736
    @iceberg4736 Рік тому +33

    Hopefully the FiveSeven pistol is next, not only because of its infamous reputation (at the start) but because it was used by Tom Clancy's most revered operator from Third Echelon.

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare Рік тому

      Never heard of it. I only know of the FiveSeven in Counter-Strike as it shares the same ammo with the P90

    • @demonking86420
      @demonking86420 Рік тому +1

      Pretty much most of Sam's weapons in the first few games were FN pieces

  • @Shinzon23
    @Shinzon23 Рік тому +11

    Man, because of Stargate SG1, every game I can use this PDW, I do so!

  • @dalazyworf
    @dalazyworf Рік тому +10

    I love the P90, I feel in love with it when I went to Las Vegas and went to Battlefield Vegas. Purchasing their CSGO package and fired it full auto. I own the civilian version PS-90. It's such an iconic firearm.

    • @ittimjones
      @ittimjones Рік тому

      It's so light and small. And the plastic outer honestly makes it feel like a toy.
      But, I'm not crazy about the case ejection being right down my body...

    • @ChuckMorton
      @ChuckMorton Рік тому

      SBR yours? Debating about barrel swap or saw down.

  • @chscott9525
    @chscott9525 Рік тому +6

    My introduction to the P90 was in Metal Gear Solid 2. Cool weapon. I use it a lot in GR Wildlands lol

  • @Agent_Matt_6
    @Agent_Matt_6 Рік тому +12

    It feels so odd yet so nice people talking, nonetheless positively, about Star Gate

  • @jimmyrodriguez5670
    @jimmyrodriguez5670 Рік тому +10

    Double-gunning the RC-P90 in Goldeneye was peak gaming.

  • @NoBudjetFilms
    @NoBudjetFilms Рік тому +5

    The P90 is such a great looking gun. I absolutely love the scene in Stargate where Samantha Carter demos it and completely impresses the skeptical Jaffa. I love every scene where Samantha Carter demonstrates that she knows her stuff. Samantha Carter is one of the best scifi female role models out there. Up there with Ripley and Janeway.
    Anyway, if I were ever to own a gun I would really like to own a civilian version of the P90.

  • @SerathDarklands
    @SerathDarklands Рік тому +9

    I fell in love with the P90 from its appearance in the GoldenEye game and its use in Stargate SG-1 back in the 90s, and I've loved it ever since. It's one of the first guns I look for in a game when I start playing - I've even modded it into games like Fallout 4.

  • @uria3679
    @uria3679 Рік тому +2

    It’s kinda a disappointment in Payday 2

  • @MadisonM1996
    @MadisonM1996 Рік тому +12

    I almost bought one of these in real life just because it's cool and it's my favorite weapon in any FPS game. It was like $1,200 and I had the money but I passed up on it. It was sold shortly after and replaced by a Kriss Vector but I couldn't afford that one. That gun shop was crazy lol.

    • @racervortex
      @racervortex Рік тому +4

      $1200 would have been a very good price for semi-auto version. The problem is the ammo is among the most expensive for any small calibre round. $1 per trigger pull at the range.

    • @MadisonM1996
      @MadisonM1996 Рік тому +2

      @racervortex That's another reason why I wouldn't go through with buying it. And I was a 20 year old in college and would have been broke afterwards lol.

    • @jackwilliams7738
      @jackwilliams7738 10 місяців тому

      I just bought a used ps90 with a red dot that looked brand new for $1,450. Brand new ones are pushing $1,800-$2,000

  • @MandalorV7
    @MandalorV7 Рік тому +5

    Man, this really made me wish we had more Star Gate video games. The setting is ripe for it. The closest we have are the X-com games.

  • @foxxbaker
    @foxxbaker Рік тому +50

    Always called the p90 the wood chipper, because I thought the msg was a block of wood growing up

  • @samw2670
    @samw2670 Рік тому +3

    first time i saw it was in 007: agent under fire, then timesplitters 2

  • @MihzvolWuriar
    @MihzvolWuriar Рік тому +6

    I was going to say "I know the P90 first for the Stargate series, not games."
    I shed a tear, thank you for that.

  • @MiguelVicoR
    @MiguelVicoR Рік тому +18

    "That is a weapon of terror, it is meant to intimidate the enemy, this, is a weapon of war, it is meant to kilk the enemy" Lieutenant General Jonathan J. O'Neill on the P90

    • @arbiterprime2145
      @arbiterprime2145 Рік тому +4

      he was still a Colonel at that point, he gets promoted to Brigadier in season 8 and doesnt go out with SG1 after that

    • @lordbastich
      @lordbastich Рік тому +4

      Please don't kilk anyone

  • @awmperry
    @awmperry Рік тому +4

    It’s also one of the few weapons where the official marketing material (specifically the official publicity video in the segment on low recoil) shows it being dual-wielded.
    On a side note, I once prepared a document during my time in the Swedish Air Force recommending the P90 as a light, compact and more suitable personal weapon for those of us who spent our time in non-combat roles. It didn’t get accepted, alas - I maintain it would have made an excellent Kpist 02 - but they did eventually end up making the AK5 smaller.

  • @travisking9895
    @travisking9895 Рік тому +4

    If this entire video was just you guys talking over Stargate footage, I still would have enjoyed it

  • @Markyroson
    @Markyroson Рік тому +3

    Love the stargate references/features! Definitely an iconic gun from both SG-1 and Atlantis. I also read (direct from co-creator Brad Wright) that they switched to the P90 for safety reasons as well as cinematic. Much safer for the talent/cast when it ejects downward since they really had fully functional ones loaded with blanks that they shot on screen. A shortage in blanks for the P90 caused by the war in Iraq(?) resulted in the “Carter special” where they made up/invented a gun chambered differently for her for a season to cut down on how many blanks they needed.

  • @taylor1038
    @taylor1038 Рік тому +4

    I was beginning to think they weren't going to mention SG-1. That show really made me love the P-90.

  • @johnnydarling8021
    @johnnydarling8021 Рік тому +5

    I fell in love with the P90 from Ghost in the Shell: Stand-alone Complex

  • @NOOSE2008
    @NOOSE2008 Рік тому +3

    Do a GTA IV weapons video.

  • @MythicMagus
    @MythicMagus Рік тому +8

    The P90 is one of those guns that everyone knows because of it's silhouette. The name is also fairly distinct too which probably helps as well.
    I remember when I first saw the RC-P90 in GoldenEye. I had no idea it was tied to a real world gun back then. I thought it was something the developers came up with because it would be fun to have in the game.

  • @gdshMajestic8705
    @gdshMajestic8705 Рік тому +3

    Cue the later season shots of Christopher Judge (T'ealc on Stargate SG1 et al) just straight up beast-modeing those dual P-90s like their toys...

  • @Mewzyc
    @Mewzyc Рік тому +24

    p90 is one of my favorite looking guns.

    • @garypasquill2355
      @garypasquill2355 Рік тому +1

      Quite fond of the pancor jackhammer ,only ever saw it in 1 film the taxi chase in Total recall,the black gun richter is shooting quaids cab with .

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Рік тому

      @@garypasquill2355 I've enjoyed using that in IGI and FC1. I think only 3 were ever made and one can be seen on Forgotten Weapons.

  • @sleepydragon1975
    @sleepydragon1975 Рік тому +7

    I first encountered the weapon in CS 1.6 and fell in love with the high capacity and amazing design. Always appreciated games that would include this iconic weapon as an option.

  • @wmsoccerfan
    @wmsoccerfan Рік тому +8

    So glad you all did a P90. I'd love a loadout video of the SKS!

  • @Magnum44357
    @Magnum44357 Рік тому +3

    Best PDW and Beautiful firearm

  • @InvictusByz
    @InvictusByz Рік тому +3

    Using the Stargate spec lines was a perfect choice. You've earned my like in under 10 seconds, well done GameSpot!

  • @rogerthomas368
    @rogerthomas368 Рік тому +4

    The key thing about how it was introduced in SG1 was that it was so matter of fact - this is our tool of choice and why. At the same time Samantha Carter was wealding it in the same way that a surgeon wealds a knife.

  • @erikasan3299
    @erikasan3299 Рік тому +2

    it just has that distinct look you know?

  • @Smintjes
    @Smintjes Рік тому +2

    I have shot this a lot. Just never drop the magazine in the sand, one grain of sand in the feeding mechanism renders it a brick. Also, the bolt is very prone to breaking in half. Not really a fan (and I’m Belgian).

  • @Rrgr5
    @Rrgr5 Рік тому +3

    There are actually two guns that I know that use that mag, AR-57 and an Keltec "pistol", funny enough Keltec also have a pretty cool bottom ejecting bullpup.

  • @zepher_blackstoc2366
    @zepher_blackstoc2366 Рік тому +2

    In the immortal words of AHOY. "Their's something alien about it."

  • @rickj6348
    @rickj6348 Рік тому +2

    IIRC, the SG-1 crew bought up so many of the P90's and the associated rounds that they created a shortage for militaries who were looking for the weapon.

  • @arches_aviation8584
    @arches_aviation8584 Рік тому +1

    These dudes didn't mention SCP:CB once... The P90 was an icon of SCP for years

  • @mirage809
    @mirage809 Рік тому +2

    Another neat thing about the P90: because it ejects shells out of the bottom it's completely ambidextrous. You can wield this gun both left and right handed with zero issue. I believe this was one of the reasons why FN went through all the effort to design that top loading magazine besides trying to make a gun with a high ammo capacity as compact as possible.
    Another strange one: the Prowler from Apex Legends resembles the P90 is shape, but that's where the comparison ends. That gun is a burst firing SMG that sticks the magazines in the stock instead of the top, likely for animation reasons.

  • @daviddavidson2357
    @daviddavidson2357 Рік тому +3

    I was waiting to hear "Stargate SG1"
    MGM had so many directions they could go in with regards to making games and every single game they were going to put out got abandoned in development.

  • @TalosLordOfNight
    @TalosLordOfNight Рік тому +3

    They missed out not sowing the pimped out version of this gun in the original Army of 2. Diamond encrusted with a 4 foot long silencer that is so big it goes off the edge of the screen