How the Rich Avoid Taxes (Buy Borrow Die)

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  • @Susanhartman.
    @Susanhartman. 3 місяці тому +175

    The utilization of after-tax money and tax-free growth makes opening a Roth IRA very advantageous. Through a careful guidance of my FA, I did not pay taxes on my withdrawals of $2.86 million when I retired.

    • @Grace.milburn
      @Grace.milburn 3 місяці тому +4

      I don't regret the numerous financial mistakes I've made in the past since I've learnt from them. But the biggest one was planning my finances without consulting with a licensed financial counsel.

    • @mikegarvey17
      @mikegarvey17 3 місяці тому +4

      Indeed, I did make use of a financial counselor. As I get closer to retirement, their advice has been really helpful. I thought compound interest on index funds wouldn't be sufficient because I started late. It's amusing how I've done better than colleagues who have more years of investment experience. I've profited more than $886k tax free.

    • @mariaguerrero08
      @mariaguerrero08 3 місяці тому +4

      @@mikegarvey17Impressive can you share more info?

    • @mikegarvey17
      @mikegarvey17 3 місяці тому +4

      There are a handful of experts in the field. I've experimented with a few over the past years, but I've stuck with ‘’Izella Annette Anderson” for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

    • @ThomasChai05
      @ThomasChai05 3 місяці тому +4

      Thanks a lot for this suggestion. I needed this myself, I looked her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.

  • @DreamweaverShade-h9p
    @DreamweaverShade-h9p Місяць тому +104

    I retired at 53 now, 55. I have close to a six-figure portfolio, 70% income uk 🇬🇧 stocks, blue-chip companies, the rest in growth etfs sp500 nasdaq global technology, etc. I still like the growth aspect of investing but as my grandkids would inherit all this how best does all this get best managed for better returns?

    • @Damncars456
      @Damncars456 Місяць тому

      My 401k went 100% in the S&P 500 when I started working in 1989. Left 100% alone till 2007 before it went to 666. Because of my 17 years in the 500, I was able to retire this year with $683k in the 401k (and a pension and rental income). There is no other way to retire before you are 70.

    • @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j
      @MakeamericaGreatagain-h7j Місяць тому

      Yes, you can do that. Investing $80,000 in the S&P 500 at an 8% annual return will grow to about $805k in 30 years. fiduciary advisors can achieve 10-15% returns, so do your research and consider consulting one.

    • @MARSHMALLOWwhimsy
      @MARSHMALLOWwhimsy Місяць тому

      My wife and I live off of our 401K. We don't work. I recommend highly to everyone to build your 401K or Roth IRA's as an alternate revenue stream in retirement to your Social Security. An observation on 401K's is when it gets over 300K it starts to accelerate. When you get over 500K it can really accelerate as the stock market grows.

    • @PhoenixReborn-v6v
      @PhoenixReborn-v6v Місяць тому

      If I may ask, as in withdrew all of the money from the 401K and IRA programs? If so, what was your strategy behind that decision? Thank you.

    • @MARSHMALLOWwhimsy
      @MARSHMALLOWwhimsy Місяць тому +3

      Melissa Elise Robinson is the licensed advisor I use and im just putting this out here because you asked. You can Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.

  • @Owaismh54
    @Owaismh54 4 місяці тому +10

    Amazing and brilliant work, Kiran. Your explanation of this advanced tax planning topic was clear and concise.

  • @robllan
    @robllan 4 місяці тому +11

    I left 🇬🇧 because the tax system is punitive. My principal residence is now India, but I negotiated an Expat (net of tax) pay deal because I’m a foreigner. But my tax residency for investments is Singapore (my wife’s nationality) where the tax liability on capital gains is zero %. I’m pretty much priced out of Britain now.

    • @cotob.6300
      @cotob.6300 4 місяці тому

      Good move 🎉

    • @chrisholbrook141
      @chrisholbrook141 17 годин тому

      Was it worth it?

    • @robllan
      @robllan 11 годин тому

      @@chrisholbrook141 well when I say I’m “priced out of Britain”, that’s essentially because my own lifestyle expectations have risen with my disposable income. But having built wealth more rapidly than I otherwise would have done, I’d say “yes” it definitely was worth it. I probably have enough to cover my retirement and send our two infant children to university in 15 years’ time. India will never be our permanent home (we’re not Indian) so we will eventually need to figure out where to next. There’s nothing stopping us from choosing the UK but we probably won’t opt for that because the low (net of tax) salaries and high living costs make it a terribly bad deal at the moment. The data shows I’m not alone in this mindset. Britain is suffering a massive “brain drain” at the moment. Skilled professionals are fleeing elsewhere because the world competes for talent.

  • @tz6414
    @tz6414 3 місяці тому +5

    Good points. I use dividends as they are taxed lower and same for capital gains. Never knew about the buy borrow die, so you die with loans outstanding, wow what a process, very clearly explained.

    • @aries6776
      @aries6776 2 місяці тому

      Same but that's going to change when Labour raise the Capital Gains tax rates to match income tax.

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV Місяць тому

      Then the Stock Markets will crash and our economy will be in ruin so,
      Don't count on it!

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV Місяць тому

      The only problem with Dividend a
      Stock is they don't appreciate nearly as quickly as Growth or Large Cap

  • @Vincent77654
    @Vincent77654 3 місяці тому +4

    I was shocked when I started paying self employed tax in uk and on the tax form it said which tax avoidance schemes do you use ? What I can legally use a tax avoidance scheme and tell the government that I am avoiding paying taxes ! Absolute MADNESS !

    • @willc1294
      @willc1294 3 місяці тому +4

      Tax Avoidence is fine, it's tax evasion that's illegal

    • @Tensquaremetreworkshop
      @Tensquaremetreworkshop 2 місяці тому +1

      Avoidance is legal. But they want to know so they can make what you are doing illegal. To stop you doing it.

  • @knowthyself690
    @knowthyself690 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for showing and explaning the downside as well.

  • @palmtree-e2l
    @palmtree-e2l 3 місяці тому +2

    Excellent video thank you. Very well presented. The other advantage of borrowing against your assets is that it reduces IHT as you only pay IHT on your net estate.

  • @roymakay3747
    @roymakay3747 4 місяці тому +3

    Blimey! What an eye opener Kiran! Thank you.

  • @aminaliuk
    @aminaliuk 4 місяці тому +7

    I can’t see why rich people would want to live by these tax rules in the first place. Most would set up offshore companies and live as a resident elsewhere. Best way to save tax. Most millionaires are leaving the UK these days.

  • @soneil
    @soneil Місяць тому +2

    Thank you Kiran
    Excellent video with great insights👍🏾👍🏾

  • @ASeSkater
    @ASeSkater 4 місяці тому +9

    Insightful. Thanks for the video

  • @derekmab7734
    @derekmab7734 2 місяці тому +1

    Capital gains tax should be the same percentage as income tax or it wouldn't be fair. Governments always side with the rich because they, the law makers, tend to be rich so they benefit from lower capital gains tax themselves. Thanks you for your insightful video.

    • @Torestar1
      @Torestar1 Місяць тому

      It still wouldn't affect the rich cause they'll just take out more loans against their assets even more. The best thing is to tax unrealized Gains to those with net worth above $100 mil. That's why warren buffet is selling lots of stock cause he knows what can happen soon

  • @jasonpatterson365
    @jasonpatterson365 4 місяці тому +3

    A great video Kiran. Some quality insights 👌🏿👌🏿

  • @richardwallace102
    @richardwallace102 Місяць тому

    Very good videos. I'm yet to learn anything new from them but the way they are structured and the accurate content will help a lot of people. 😊

  • @johntheaccountant5594
    @johntheaccountant5594 4 місяці тому +11

    Easiest and Street Wise solution if working for yourself is to:
    Form a Ltd Company.
    Create different classes of shares A, B, C.
    Hold at least 80% of the class A shares. Give the other shares B and C (non voting rights etc) to non residents.
    Pay yourself a gross salary of £12,000 per annum and dividends of £24,000 that keeps you at 20% tax.
    Pay the rest in dividends to B and C shareholders (on paper), draw out the cash from the company.
    If for some reason HMRC asks you where you received the money from, it was a loan from B and C shareholders.
    I do not recommend anybody trades as self employed or in a partnership. Always trade using an Ltd.

    • @ir0n2541
      @ir0n2541 4 місяці тому

      who are the non residents ? can you give an example ?

    • @johntheaccountant5594
      @johntheaccountant5594 4 місяці тому

      @@ir0n2541 Are you serious? Read between the lines and figure it out.

    • @johntheaccountant5594
      @johntheaccountant5594 4 місяці тому

      @@ir0n2541 Read between the lines.

    • @michaewelina7983
      @michaewelina7983 4 місяці тому

      Non res pay 30% tax from first pound.

    • @joetheboy04
      @joetheboy04 4 місяці тому +1

      Actually you can be self employed and non dom... Live in a cheap region like Thailand and Malaysia. Run businesses located in UK with virtual addresses. No tax because you are non dom and source of funds are not from UK

  • @harrysahota4072
    @harrysahota4072 4 місяці тому +10

    The average person would currently be best placed to buy assets in an isa and then have the ability to take the dividends tax free or reinvest then

    • @mattwilliams8075
      @mattwilliams8075 3 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely that's what I've done. Look at JEPG monthly dividend if you want passive income monthly tax free. Obviously is has to be in a stocks and shares ISA. NFA

    • @nuntiusuk3345
      @nuntiusuk3345 3 місяці тому +3

      Wait until Labour change the laws of tax reliefs on pensions and ISAs

    • @aries6776
      @aries6776 2 місяці тому +2

      You can't even invest in a bitcoin ETF in the UK let alone put it into an ISA for retirement. What a joke. The best-returning asset on the planet and we aren't allowed near it.

    • @mattwilliams8075
      @mattwilliams8075 2 місяці тому

      @aries6776 Not financial advice, but look into XRP. It's bridge for all crypto designed for the banking sector. If BTC is 50K a coin and XRP is 55p a coin, you see where I'm going with this.

    • @aries6776
      @aries6776 2 місяці тому

      @@mattwilliams8075 They keep unlocking XRP and diluting the supply. It's been in a consolidation pattern for the last 2 years. I don't see a bright future for XRP, certainly nowhere near to BTC's success.

  • @PCG2022
    @PCG2022 2 місяці тому

    Being self-employed in the UK what would be the best strategy? I understand that I can buy things for my sole trader business and run the costs against my tax, however, if I were to invest it into something else other than the business then how does this work? Great video.

  • @matthewoakley6081
    @matthewoakley6081 3 місяці тому +4

    A system that has been created by all the uk political parties.
    Income tax+ NI mean it is very hard to become well off salary income.
    The middle class are squeezed hard. The only difference between the conservatives and labour, is labour squeeze until they pop!

  • @arberismaili9560
    @arberismaili9560 4 місяці тому +3

    Great insight and you are awesome and a legend as well never forget your worth okay.

  • @sarawilliam696
    @sarawilliam696 3 місяці тому +4

    The continuously changing economic conditions in our society have made it necessary for people to find additional sources of income. I am a Data Scientist, but currently looking at the stock market to fuel my retirement goal of $10m, my only concern is the recent market crash. Do I stay 100% cash and wait for a bull market, or go ahead to invest anyways?

    • @Justinmeyer1000
      @Justinmeyer1000 3 місяці тому +2

      buying the dip is actually good investing, although for the majority, their investing solution can be found in specialized expertise

    • @carssimplified2195
      @carssimplified2195 3 місяці тому +2

      Agreed, notwithstanding my rookie knowledge of investing, I have a financial advisor who did the trick in a bit more than 6 months after a lump sum capital of $500k. I've made a fortune so far, and I'm now buying real estates, gold and silver as advised by my FA.

    • @NoorJari406
      @NoorJari406 3 місяці тому +2

      truly appreciate the implementation of ideas and strategies that result to unmeasurable progress, thus the search for a reputable advisor, mind sharing info of this person guiding you please?

    • @carssimplified2195
      @carssimplified2195 3 місяці тому +1

      ‘’Aileen Gertrude Tippy’’ is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with and set up an appointment.

  • @titopp123
    @titopp123 3 місяці тому +2

    The missing component in buy borrow die is that you need a business or be making money with a service or skill to pay the loan off slowly, you do not want to be just paying off interest in case you need another loan which you will if you are funding your lifestyle through loans while keeping your assets right? Also, you will be taxed on that money you generate to pay off the loans.

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV Місяць тому +1

      That defeats the entire purpose!
      The point IS to ONLY pay the interest!
      This leaves your Portfolio in place to grow.
      You leave the Principal to your Estate to pay.
      Your heirs receive your Portfolio at a "Stepped up Cost Basis"
      Ie: They sell your assests with No Tax event!
      But in all those years, your principal has been growing. The Interest paid was significantly less than the tax you would have paid....
      Win Win!
      (Well you're dead but.....)

    • @titopp123
      @titopp123 Місяць тому

      @@METVWETV don't work that way think about it that fairy tale you will have to pay the loan off with a business that will generate wayyyy more than the loan

    • @titopp123
      @titopp123 Місяць тому

      @@METVWETV plus there is something call debt to income ratio, yes you can pay interest for a bit but not forever lol

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV Місяць тому

      ​@titopp123
      The Lol only demonstrates your arrogance.
      The rest of your post demonstrates your ignorance.
      This is a "Secured" loan
      Debt to income doesn't factor into this!
      Further, you are earning a return on the investment that you didn't sell and didn't pay taxes on....
      Please stop posting, I'm embarrassed for you

  • @assezzen194
    @assezzen194 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi. Thank you for the interesting video. Do the rich ever pay back the money (principal & interest) they borrow (with assets as collateral) ? If so, how do they pay back the loan ?

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV Місяць тому

      With An SBLOC, you're only required to pay back the interest.
      This allows you to leave your assests in place, where they can continue to grow.
      By contrast, if you were to sell your stock to pay off the loan, you not only lose the compounding growth but
      You also trigger a taxable event.
      So, the strategy is to Never pay down the principal,
      >>While you're alive
      (Buy, Borrow....DIE).
      Your heirs will receive the Portfolio at a
      "Stepped up Basis."
      On the day you die, the price of the stock becomes the
      "New Cost Basis."
      This is now the price from which the government will calculate profit or loss.
      Ie: You purchased ABC stock
      35 years earlier for $10.
      The stock is now worth $100.
      Had you sold it, you would have been taxed on the $90 of "Capital Gain" (Profit).
      However, you didn't sell it, you died and you were never required to pay the taxes on the growth (Unrealized Capital Gains).
      The next day, your heir receives the Portfolio as an Inheritance and since the new "Cost Basis" is now, $100,
      You sell it for $100, which is not a profit to "You," since you just received it as an inheritance at $100, it's a wash.
      You pay off the loan and you yourself, can now start the process all over again!

  • @MrAcky89
    @MrAcky89 4 місяці тому +5

    I understand this loosely, but still can't wrap my head around how you pay the loan back?
    My conclusion is that you'd need to draw down from a Portfolio to make the repayments. So the "asset" would still have to be large enough to not shrink.
    Am I missing something?

    • @gazhilts53
      @gazhilts53 4 місяці тому +1

      You don't pay the loan back.

    • @MrAcky89
      @MrAcky89 4 місяці тому

      @@gazhilts53 you have to make the minimum repayments.
      Where is that money coming from?

    • @gazhilts53
      @gazhilts53 4 місяці тому

      Depends where the loan is taken from, most will charge interest but not require any repayments. If the value of the assets fall in value you can be liquidated.

    • @MrAcky89
      @MrAcky89 4 місяці тому

      @gazhilts53 The same question still applies.
      How am I paying anything back? Would I have drawn down from my assets?
      Makes perfect sense if you already have a stream of cash flow, but if not, you're drawing down from somewhere to make the re-payment.

    • @gazhilts53
      @gazhilts53 4 місяці тому +2

      @@MrAcky89 they just add the interest on to the loan amount. As long as the assets are rising in value no repayment is needed and even then, wouldnt repay the loan but buy more assets instead. Over time with inflation, the value of the borrowed amount will shrink and the assets will rise.

  • @magnus1689
    @magnus1689 3 місяці тому

    Thanks - despite being fairly finance literate, I never actually understood how this works. So am very grateful for this explanation. One question - presumably the wealthy keep taking out new loans to cover older loans as they don't want to sell assets to pay off debt. And do they use dividends to pay off the interest payments?

    • @assezzen194
      @assezzen194 3 місяці тому +2

      She never answered your (quite pertinent) question which is strange and frustrating. I just asked basically the same question... "Hi. Thank you for the interesting video. Do the rich ever pay back the money (principal & interest) they borrow (with assets as collateral) ? If so, how do they pay back the loan ?" The loaner wants at least to receive the interest, and possibly some of the principal back...

  • @AR-fy2qo
    @AR-fy2qo 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice video
    Like the honest learning

  • @mrbmro3991
    @mrbmro3991 4 місяці тому

    Excellent video. Keep up the good work.

  • @meibing4912
    @meibing4912 4 місяці тому +2

    Just into the 1%. Will die with $,$$$,$$$ in debt. Borrowing is tax free. I cringe when people say that being debt free is their retirement goal. Who deserves your money the most; you or your bank? Don't pay off your house/apartment etc. Keep it with max debt and let inflation and rising housing prices do your work. Fixed property is by far the best inflation hedge. 1/3 property, 1/3 annuities, 1/3 stocks. YMMV.

  • @neilcameron434
    @neilcameron434 4 місяці тому +3

    It's a blatetent loophole that should be closed. They should be able to borrow against their securities but when it's for personal spending it should be considered income. I appreciate it's probably more complicated than this statement but it's blatantly unfair if billionaires avoid paying a similar rate of tax on their income than regular workers.

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV Місяць тому

      Its not.
      Whats "Blatantly Unfair" is the Tax System in general.
      I applaud any advantage taken to minimize taxes.
      You simply do Not understand how Investing works

  • @beanykey
    @beanykey 3 місяці тому +3

    Whilst it's true that this would avoid capital gains tax, what about the enormous inheritance tax bill your heirs will be faced with instead?

    • @bootangy
      @bootangy 3 місяці тому

      pass them over as gifts?

    • @bonditltd5346
      @bonditltd5346 3 місяці тому

      If bought in a limited company, you have A shares and the B shares move up after your death to A shares, so no inheritance tax.

  • @brocu1
    @brocu1 2 місяці тому +2

    question remains where do they take money from to pay regular loan installments ?

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV Місяць тому

      The only "regular payments" are interest, which is significantly lower than your tax liability would have been had you sold the stock.
      So, where would you get the money to
      Pay your taxes?

  • @gerryparker7699
    @gerryparker7699 3 місяці тому

    OMG this is outrageous.

  • @relobmit
    @relobmit 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video, but I don't understand where the uplift in market value comes from after the assets are inherited.

    • @LurchLures
      @LurchLures 4 місяці тому +4

      @relobmit Say I bought an investment house for 100k, when I sold it 10 years later it went for 180k, so I paid capital gains on the 80k difference. If instead I died and left the house to one of my kids It would be valued at the new value of 180k. So if they sold it a year or so later for 200k they would only pay CGT on the 20k uplift , not on the actual 100k uplift. That's what she's saying.

  • @WilliamHinojosa
    @WilliamHinojosa Місяць тому

    Yes makes some sense, except... wont the bank want its money back? Usually (perhaps is different for the ultra rich) when you get a loan, the bank starts asking you for money the next month, and there after every month, for a set amount of time. So how do you pay this? you return the money that was given to you by the loan? or do you sell your assets (a tiny bit) every month so you can repay? But then if you do this, wouldnt you be taxed?

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV Місяць тому

      With An SBLOC, you're only required to pay back the interest.
      This allows you to leave your assests in place, where they can continue to grow.
      By contrast, if you were to sell your stock to pay off the loan, you not only lose the compounding growth but
      You also trigger a taxable event.
      So, the strategy is to Never pay down the principal,
      >>While you're alive
      (Buy, Borrow....DIE).
      Your heirs will receive the Portfolio at a
      "Stepped up Basis."
      On the day you die, the price of the stock becomes the
      "New Cost Basis."
      This is now the price from which the government will calculate profit or loss.
      Ie: You purchased ABC stock
      35 years earlier for $10.
      The stock is now worth $100.
      Had you sold it, you would have been taxed on the $90 of "Capital Gain" (Profit).
      However, you didn't sell it, you died and you were never required to pay the taxes on the growth (Unrealized Capital Gains).
      The next day, your heir receives the Portfolio as an Inheritance and since the new "Cost Basis" is now, $100,
      You sell it for $100, which is not a profit to "You," since you just received it as an inheritance at $100, it's a wash.
      You pay off the loan and you yourself, can now start the process all over again!
      So, to answer your question,
      You would either borrow the $100K and enough to pay the interest
      Or
      You would pay the taxes from a different stream of income.
      **Simple math:
      You need $100K, you borrow it @ 5%.
      You now instead borrow $105K to cover your interest payment.
      (Remember, the Interest rate is significantly lower than the tax rate).
      By contrast, had you sold the Stock outright,
      You would have either sold enough to pay the taxes or you would have paid the taxes from a different stream of income.
      It's no different than asking,
      "How would you pay the taxes on a withdrawal?"

  • @apotter4883
    @apotter4883 4 місяці тому +6

    How do they get around inheritance tax when passing on their assets at death.

    • @denisotto348
      @denisotto348 3 місяці тому +2

      Assets in trust.

    • @MikePhillips-pl6ov
      @MikePhillips-pl6ov 3 місяці тому

      ​@@denisotto348do you not have to live for seven years from the date of setting up the trust(s)? Great if you do.
      What do people with no family do when they have no-one to set up a trust for?
      Or am I thinking of the wrong system perhaps

    • @denisotto348
      @denisotto348 3 місяці тому

      @@MikePhillips-pl6ov 7 years is the amount of time that gifts to children will be subject to inheritance tax. Do check as I may be wrong. But gift within annual gift allowance at year 1 and you die at year 8 then no tax. Gift at year 1 and die at year 3 and they’ll tax it. Pretty sure.
      A trust is whatever it is set up to be and will vary depending on its purpose. Think of it similar to creating a new legal entity although various tax rules will interweave within this. For a trust you’ll highly likely need ‘good’ professional advice.
      I say ‘good’ because so many accountants and finance professionals are like one eyed kings in the land of the blind. Because they know more than the average person (with the average person being someone who avoids learning about money although it governs almost everything) then they can get away with mediocre and often poor advice and knowledge because who will hold them to account. See it with accountants working for small business a lot.
      Best bet is to google and read a lot and learn the basics at the minimum. Worth it in the long run.

    • @robertwoodhouse-bm7kt
      @robertwoodhouse-bm7kt 3 місяці тому +4

      move to a country that has no inheritance tax (IHT) if you leave assets to your children or grandchildren, such as Gibraltar, Channel Islands, Portugal. Italy has IHT but only at 4% the last time I looked. When you leave the UK which must be for good, sell your property and car, move your assets abroad and tell HMRC you are changing your domicile by choice to your new residence, you can keep the UK passport.
      I have a UK passport but resident in Portugal.

    • @denisotto348
      @denisotto348 3 місяці тому +1

      @@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt nice reply. A breath of fresh air seeing comments where we’re helping one another as opposed to people arguing. Nice to know that about moving domicile status. Thanks

  • @1carusjohn32
    @1carusjohn32 2 місяці тому

    I may have misunderstood this. Are you saying that at death, both the assets and the loan debt are transferred, at which point the asset can then pay off the loan debt but form the money inherited which has no cgt attached to it. Prior to death any released money would be subject to cgt and other taxation. So as long as the asset increases in value over time more than the interest repayments of the loan and any tax loss of selling the asset then the strategy is sound.

  • @gazhilts53
    @gazhilts53 4 місяці тому

    A good book on this subject is- The Value of Debt by Thomas J Anderson.

  • @ramseybeing
    @ramseybeing Місяць тому

    How are those loans paid back during lifetime, and what kind of interest do they have to pay?

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV Місяць тому

      With An SBLOC, you're only required to pay back the interest.
      This allows you to leave your assests in place, where they can continue to grow.
      By contrast, if you were to sell your stock to pay off the loan, you not only lose the compounding growth but
      You also trigger a taxable event.
      So, the strategy is to Never pay down the principal,
      >>While you're alive
      (Buy, Borrow....DIE).
      Your heirs will receive the Portfolio at a
      "Stepped up Basis."
      On the day you die, the price of the stock becomes the
      "New Cost Basis."
      This is now the price from which the government will calculate profit or loss.
      Ie: You purchased ABC stock
      35 years earlier for $10.
      The stock is now worth $100.
      Had you sold it, you would have been taxed on the $90 of "Capital Gain" (Profit).
      However, you didn't sell it, you died and you were never required to pay the taxes on the growth (Unrealized Capital Gains).
      The next day, your heir receives the Portfolio as an Inheritance and since the new "Cost Basis" is now, $100,
      You sell it for $100, which is not a profit to "You," since you just received it as an inheritance at $100, it's a wash.
      You pay off the loan and you yourself, can now start the process all over again!

  • @IDPYouTube
    @IDPYouTube 13 днів тому

    Who wants an accountant who views legal tax incentives and laws as “loopholes?”

  • @GETINTOUCHTODAY
    @GETINTOUCHTODAY 4 місяці тому

    Everyone should pay a fixed amount regardless of the income earned.

  • @Mrnw10
    @Mrnw10 4 місяці тому

    Hi Kiran, This sounds great! Could i do this with my BTL property? I have significant equity in it. Who provides these security backed loans and are they available to normal people?

    • @bonditltd5346
      @bonditltd5346 3 місяці тому +1

      If you set up a Ltd company, the company buys the asset and pays you. Or, no loan, it owes you on paper after transferring the ownership ( stamp duty to pay), then take the rent tax free as the payment until paid. Take payment after that as dividends

  • @harryzachariou1
    @harryzachariou1 4 місяці тому +3

    Does the individual taking the security backed loan not have to make regular payments towards the loan before they die, and settle the loan balance with the sold assets?

    • @Bulldogridesagain
      @Bulldogridesagain 3 місяці тому +1

      The interest on the loan is far lower than equivalent tax on a salary.

    • @assezzen194
      @assezzen194 3 місяці тому

      @@Bulldogridesagain Yeah, but where does the "pay back" money come from ? From the money borrowed ??? =)

    • @Bulldogridesagain
      @Bulldogridesagain 3 місяці тому +1

      @@assezzen194 they don't pay it back. It gets paid off out of their estate when they die.

  • @henrykrystos921
    @henrykrystos921 4 місяці тому +3

    Kiran. great blog but u didn't cover inheritance tax in yr discussion. it's not ad simple as u mk out. 🙏

    • @KiranKaurFinance
      @KiranKaurFinance  4 місяці тому +6

      Happy to cover inheritance tax in a future video if it would help :)

    • @Flat2Rent
      @Flat2Rent 4 місяці тому +1

      @@KiranKaurFinance interesting video you glossed over IHT and also stamp duty land tax

    • @HarvysHotDeals
      @HarvysHotDeals 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes please

  • @MuckyMucky-z3c
    @MuckyMucky-z3c 10 днів тому

    Go international, think outside the tax box. US gives USD 126,000 income tax allowance for offshore earnings. Improve cultural and business experience at the same time.

  • @TuNguyenUK
    @TuNguyenUK 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this

  • @crokkoadventures
    @crokkoadventures 2 місяці тому

    Hey, it make sense as interest on company loan and deductible but any money transfered into personal account will be tax liable. So still do not understand it

  • @jdcarmad
    @jdcarmad 3 місяці тому

    How do you spend stock options at a hotel or resort?? Or a car dealership???

  • @jem4054
    @jem4054 Місяць тому

    So they take out a lifetime loan with no repayments until the end of term or death?

  • @beaverundercover3479
    @beaverundercover3479 Місяць тому

    if asset is wrapped up in an ISA isn't there the inheritance tax to pay?

  • @mrlover4310
    @mrlover4310 4 місяці тому +1

    Best to live in your means. If you have assets lets just say they are worth 5 million just pick up a loan for the 1 million. A million pounds can get you to a lot of places and a good life.

    • @michaewelina7983
      @michaewelina7983 4 місяці тому

      it will give you 4 years, in the mean time assets should grow to 6.5 mln.

  • @aturan-fo1qt
    @aturan-fo1qt 4 місяці тому

    Hey Kiran, if someone refinanced their mortgage and got new loan (because their home's new LTV is higher than prev) can they use rest of the money for personal things?

    • @michaewelina7983
      @michaewelina7983 4 місяці тому

      You can take offset mortgage which allows you to pay out money from mortgage, but it has higher rates.

  • @marykapadia9385
    @marykapadia9385 2 місяці тому

    If the capital gain is postponed until death where it then becomes revalued for purposes of the estate wouldn't the heirs then suffer Inheritance Tax on the much larger estate?

    • @jdb47games
      @jdb47games 2 місяці тому

      There are ways of avoiding Inheritance Tax too, such as giving your assets to your children more than seven years before you die. Also, Capital Gains Tax is not postponed on death, it is avoided altogether.

  • @captainfuture2882
    @captainfuture2882 3 місяці тому

    Interesting. In Germany you or the inheriting person have to pay capital gain tax for stocks if you die. Then a 19% inheritance tax.

  • @lawrencebarber
    @lawrencebarber 4 місяці тому +1

    The borrow part doesn't make sense to me. Unless you pay back the loan (with another loan?) you will have an ever expanding debt, and interest payments. You only pay tax once, you pay interest forever.

    • @shermantse7322
      @shermantse7322 4 місяці тому +1

      From my understanding, you don't ever repay the debt until the time you pass away. I thought of similar strategies but the interest rate and the compounding of debt scares me. To cover the cost of paying off debt on death life insurance may come to play.

    • @dripcalc
      @dripcalc 4 місяці тому +1

      i have the same issue with this "borrow" part. You still need income to pay down loan/interest... somehow all these "buy, borrow, die" videos conveniently avoid this topic

    • @michaewelina7983
      @michaewelina7983 4 місяці тому +1

      @@dripcalc You can roll the debt as gov does. As long as your assets appreciate.

    • @meibing4912
      @meibing4912 4 місяці тому +2

      I do this. You never pay back the loans - only ever interest. Do the math: $2 mill property loan @3.5% after tax reduction (I'm paying a lot less but got lucky so not using that number), keep cash for interest payments the first 2 years if buffer needed, invest rest in stocks @8%. If you have the money banks will give you the best rates and superior conditions. I have a housing loan that works as a credit line. Every time I have extra cash in the bank the credit line - and interest - falls with that amount etc. etc.

    • @meibing4912
      @meibing4912 4 місяці тому

      @@michaewelina7983 exactly - sadly that does not work that well with gov debt as our gov never dies...

  • @abdulhaitham4001
    @abdulhaitham4001 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video content Kiran. This tax avoidance tactic does have strong immoral qualities when super rich business owners pay far less % tax proportionately than middle class wage earners such as secreteries and other salaried employees.

    • @MrAcky89
      @MrAcky89 4 місяці тому

      Are they the immoral ones by doing what the system allows them?
      The working class and middle class are being squeezed extremely hard in the UK.
      I earn a good salary and because of the way the tax system works, my life wouldn't change massively if my wage doubled or even tripled.
      This super wealthy, super rich band who own all the assets would be paying a wealth tax.

    • @TauvicRitter
      @TauvicRitter 3 місяці тому

      This is what makes lawyers and lobby groups so popular. They setup all of this. Then elections come and the people can quarel over the smaller issues

  • @m.goodengumman3941
    @m.goodengumman3941 2 місяці тому +2

    I wish I knew you 40 years ago dear, 😅🙏💰💰💰

  • @DigitalJunior2003
    @DigitalJunior2003 3 місяці тому

    How do I minimise the tax I pay on a large redundancy payment that potentially pushes me into 45% bracket?

  • @Arthur-hx7sv
    @Arthur-hx7sv Місяць тому

    Why is there no mention of inheritance tax?

  • @OnlyKnowsGod
    @OnlyKnowsGod 4 місяці тому

    I could be wrong but security banked line of credit doesn't exist in the UK??

  • @alonglee9766
    @alonglee9766 4 місяці тому +1

    Passing assets to heirs at market value means inheritance tax?

    • @michaewelina7983
      @michaewelina7983 4 місяці тому +1

      No, at moment of your death assets are evaluated to current market value, so no CGT will be paid by heirs, although IT might be paid if not protected.

    • @LurchLures
      @LurchLures 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes. If you break the Inheritance threshold , no if you don't. Buy a house for 200k and it doubles you would pay CGT if you sell it. Pass it to your kids when you die and its under the limit. No IHT and the clock for thier CGT is reset to 400k.

  • @dripcalc
    @dripcalc 4 місяці тому

    Nobody is talking about paying back the loan (borrow part) ... you need cashflow to pay loan interest and/or principal... So you still need income or dividends to pay interest.
    Anything I'm missing?

    • @michaewelina7983
      @michaewelina7983 4 місяці тому

      You can take new loan to pay old, based on increased asset valuation.

    • @kristoffscuba5466
      @kristoffscuba5466 4 місяці тому

      And the interest on the loans is cheap as they are asset backed. A couple of percent over base rate usually. Far less than the tax charge would be if it was income.

    • @meibing4912
      @meibing4912 4 місяці тому +2

      Cash flow is important. You do interest arbitrage by investing in stocks with low interest property or company loans. The margins are more than enough to cover you. In addition you can take out new loans every so many years. You just need proper money management - if you think the money in your account is "yours to spend" - things go south. I do this with 1/3 fixed property, 1/3 annuities and 1/3 stocks. Retirement starts with an additional $800K loan. Will die with $,$$$,$$$ in debt. Cash liquidity is so undervalued. Nothing is more important. Still many (most?) people say they want to be debt free in retirement. As if the bank needs your money more than you do.

  • @old-barn
    @old-barn 3 місяці тому

    Soo... the wealthy are getting loans with security that they essentially are not making payments on? No monthly instalment, no full term? How can these be considered loans at all? IR35 and related tax cases have already discussed the director loan type schemes (ok, not the same but certainly very similar of loands not being repaid) and concluded these were not loans. Surely a repayment scheduke and termination date are required to qualify as a loan?

    • @assezzen194
      @assezzen194 3 місяці тому +2

      Maybe they're waiting for a great reset or a collapse and hyperinflation to pay back 1 cent on the dollar... Kiran never explained the pay back method...

  • @celiahall6168
    @celiahall6168 4 місяці тому

    Brilliant 😊

  • @Heatherwilson470
    @Heatherwilson470 4 місяці тому +26

    I will be forever grateful to you, you changed my entire life and I will continue to preach on your behalf for the whole world to hear you saved me from huge financial debt with just a small investment, thank you Katherine Stewart.

    • @MikeCallender31
      @MikeCallender31 4 місяці тому

      Wow. I'm a bit perplexed seeing her been mentioned here also Didn’t know she has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, I'm in my fifth trade with her and it has been super.

    • @TiffanyHolmes25
      @TiffanyHolmes25 4 місяці тому

      She is my family's personal Broker and also a personal Broker to many families in the United states, she is a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT in the United States.

    • @AidenCheatle23
      @AidenCheatle23 4 місяці тому

      You trade with Katherine Stewart too? Wow that woman has been a blessing to me and my family.

    • @DannyRodriguez158
      @DannyRodriguez158 4 місяці тому

      I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?

    • @HermanPerkins832
      @HermanPerkins832 4 місяці тому

      I was skeptical at first till I decided to try. Its huge returns is awesome. I can't say much.

  • @970357ers
    @970357ers 3 місяці тому

    Death is like a capital gains tax reset switch (generationally speaking).

  • @sam5035
    @sam5035 4 місяці тому

    What if you already hit your 60k pension limit? are there any alternatives?

    • @kevinsyd2012
      @kevinsyd2012 4 місяці тому

      Assuming that you have no high interest debt/s, put 20k in an ISA. The 60k & 20k are annual limits so do this year after year if you can. After that you can open an investment account and buy shares, bonds, funds etc where there is no limit.

    • @jdcarmad
      @jdcarmad 3 місяці тому

      Why pay so much money into wheelchair wealth?

  • @magic_toaster8510
    @magic_toaster8510 3 місяці тому +1

    The ultra wealthy come from wealth, that’s the easiest route to success, I’ve been investing in that strategy now for 5 years and it’s going well.

  • @AnhHoang-gv9wy
    @AnhHoang-gv9wy 4 місяці тому

    Will the person inheriting the assets have to sell them to pay off the loan and therefore pay capital gains?

    • @michaewelina7983
      @michaewelina7983 4 місяці тому

      @@jschreiber6461 It depend on asset, property owned in your name yes. Shares in trust no. Shares which are inherited will not have CGT but will IT.

    • @meibing4912
      @meibing4912 4 місяці тому

      @@jschreiber6461 no, you do not inherent the debt - its a creditor loss. That's why you actually need a comfortable level of money to do this strategy effectively.

  • @chrisanstis
    @chrisanstis 4 місяці тому

    What type of assets to gain appreciation for long term

    • @LurchLures
      @LurchLures 4 місяці тому

      Warren Buffet acts on this his whole life. Shares. Shares in companies where people work to produce stuff that won't go out of fashion. Rather than risk in wrong companies just get S&P 500 if your US only or Global 500 if you want to globally diversify.

    • @chrisanstis
      @chrisanstis 4 місяці тому

      @@LurchLures as an account, would you be able to set this up, for an individual, as tax efficient as possible, and as you’re buying shares to get dividends, I think you could set this up up as a commercial entity in a limited liability partnership

    • @LurchLures
      @LurchLures 4 місяці тому

      @chrisanstis For the amount of money I have ISAs work just fine. I'm not an expert or a professional.

  • @Mickenos85
    @Mickenos85 3 місяці тому

    The only people who pay tax are registered with the revenue or employed in a regular business thats registered with the ir. So how to avoid tax. Dont work for a registered business. Dont register a business. Done. Now you dont need to pay tax. Unless you show off about it to someone who pays tax.

  • @comfibold
    @comfibold 4 місяці тому

    I wonder why this isn't taught in most schools...

  • @anne13river
    @anne13river 2 місяці тому

    Close the loopholes and make them pay what they should. Is it one law for the rich etc. Evasion is a crime lets make avoidance a crime too !!.

  • @chrisanstis
    @chrisanstis 4 місяці тому

    Good video

  • @javaidak4204
    @javaidak4204 4 місяці тому

    Good 👍 one hugs ❤

  • @faisalmirza9601
    @faisalmirza9601 3 місяці тому

    You only pay back the borrowing after you die ? You keep paying interest on that debt as well . Very risky

  • @UmarAbid
    @UmarAbid 4 місяці тому

    thank you but you know i would move to a place were they dont pay tax i cant recall the name of city.

  • @bootangy
    @bootangy 3 місяці тому

    unrealised gains?

  • @unclejezza
    @unclejezza 3 місяці тому

    I've seen her sisters UA-cam videos

  • @Baldwin321
    @Baldwin321 2 місяці тому

    I just sold a property in Portland and I'm thinking to put the cash in stocks, I know everyone is saying its ripe enough, but Is this a good time to buy stocks? How long until a full recovery? How are other people in the same market raking in over $450k gains with months, I'm really just confused at this point.

    • @Alden457
      @Alden457 2 місяці тому

      Yes, a good number of folks are raking in huge 6 figure gains in this downtrend, but such strategies are mostly successfully executed by folks with in depth market knowledge

    • @Hudson367
      @Hudson367 2 місяці тому

      A lot of folks downplay the role of advisors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850k.

    • @Thomas43211
      @Thomas43211 2 місяці тому

      how can I participate in this? I sincerely aspire to establish a secure financlal future and am eager to participate. Who is the driving force behind your success?

    • @Hudson367
      @Hudson367 2 місяці тому

      Aileen Gertrude Tippy is the licensed fiduciary I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

    • @Thomas43211
      @Thomas43211 2 місяці тому

      I just looked her up on the internet and found her webpage with her credentials. I wrote her a outlining my financial objectives and planned a call with her

  • @garythornbury9793
    @garythornbury9793 4 місяці тому

    im not rich yet, but thats what im doing.

  • @robertengel7213
    @robertengel7213 4 місяці тому

    Im sorry but in the first example you completely skip the part about how one would buy said assets. In some cases this comes from either stock owned (tech company founder) but in most cases its savings, ergo assets are still accrued via income. Feels completely backwards and all it says is that income tax is higher than dividend (not true everywhere). If anything it may explain exponential asset growth over time via compound interest.

  • @fialra1
    @fialra1 2 місяці тому +1

    Literally, any attempt to explain the ''Buy, Borrow, Die'' strategy fails to explain how these loans are being re-paid and they always make it sound like wealthy people are getting free money, like here's 100 million from us and don't worry about it.

  • @CarlosWillis
    @CarlosWillis 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm against that strategy as it feeds into fractional reserve banking. Id rather have enough capital to buy assets outright like blocks of flats so I'm not at the mercy of inflation, and then I can pass on that freedom by NOT charging tenants stupid prices for rent. I hate central banks

  • @ramican9155
    @ramican9155 3 місяці тому

    Was not explained well to how the debt is paid at the end????

  • @funkyfragrancelover2979
    @funkyfragrancelover2979 4 місяці тому +2

    what about inheritance tax? if a family member gives me their house upon death don't I have to pay inheritance tax which can be up to 40%?
    As far as I know only private pensions are exempt from capital gains tax if it is passed on upon death?

    • @KiranKaurFinance
      @KiranKaurFinance  4 місяці тому

      Inheritance tax is still applicable! This video didn't cover inheritance tax but I would be happy to in future videos. In terms of CGT, usually, if an asset is sold during probate and its value increased since the person died, there is Capital Gains Tax.

    • @funkyfragrancelover2979
      @funkyfragrancelover2979 4 місяці тому

      @@KiranKaurFinance thanks for confirming. I read recently on the Financial Times that the super wealthy are liquidating some of their assets now as they think capital gains tax will be even higher for them with the new government. Most likely placing the cash into a pension as part of inheritance planning.

  • @LeePark-w3l
    @LeePark-w3l 3 місяці тому

    What a very sad society we are living in. Why work to HELP other people when governments do this.

  • @Aubury
    @Aubury 4 місяці тому

    Eight men now control as much wealth as the world's poorest 3.6 billion people, according to a new report from Oxfam International.

    • @willc1294
      @willc1294 3 місяці тому

      Thats because they're the 8 smartest amd hardworking people.
      Most of the 3.6bllion unwashed are dumb and lazy!

  • @ketanpatel7631
    @ketanpatel7631 4 місяці тому

    Nischa looks different in this video

  • @petruflorintofoleanu5865
    @petruflorintofoleanu5865 4 місяці тому

    FINANCIAL EDUCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT
    PEOPLE SUFFERING THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TAXES BETWEEN BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYEE

  • @ir0n2541
    @ir0n2541 4 місяці тому

    Do i pay captical gain on profits realized from an investment made using loan money ?

    • @michaewelina7983
      @michaewelina7983 4 місяці тому +1

      It depends, some profits can be offset by interest cost, but it depend on tax structure.

  • @Wayne-wm6wq
    @Wayne-wm6wq 2 місяці тому

    What they do is they dont contract with the tax office bingo and there isnt any law that says you have to pay it if so show us the law

  • @carlryan808
    @carlryan808 4 місяці тому

    This is a misleading title, rich pay less tax as a proportion of wealth, although the examples you give means that are paying way more tax in absolute terms.

  • @gerryparker7699
    @gerryparker7699 3 місяці тому

    I feel royally screwed by the wealthy.

  • @michaelggriffiths
    @michaelggriffiths Місяць тому

    Just pay the Tax.

  • @nunyabidness3075
    @nunyabidness3075 3 місяці тому

    And yet, all the jealous little haters insist we have a progressive income tax because it’s more fair. SMH.

  • @nuntiusuk3345
    @nuntiusuk3345 3 місяці тому

    I have a great idea to make you rich . Open a bank , get a banking licence . Create false credits out of thin air , let’s call them loans and mortgages. Transfer the non existent credits of money to those who need loans and mortgages . Charge them 5% and more for decades on the money that never existed . What a scam eh ?

  • @gurdeepchumber2764
    @gurdeepchumber2764 4 місяці тому

    Great video & great looking too ❤

  • @TomRaine
    @TomRaine 3 місяці тому

    But my activists friends told me we can tax the rich?

  • @123MondayTuesday
    @123MondayTuesday 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m a poor man, but for some reason, I really enjoying paying tax, I look forward to it each pay day🎉

    • @dripcalc
      @dripcalc 4 місяці тому +1

      you need to see a shrink

  • @aeronation7465
    @aeronation7465 4 місяці тому +15

    What an evil system built on greed

    • @kevinsyd2012
      @kevinsyd2012 4 місяці тому

      Not at all. It's just a system that allows people to pay the lowest, legal amount of tax. Many of the ultra wealthy give more to charitable foundations than they do to governments as they can better direct how their money is directed and spent.

    • @dripcalc
      @dripcalc 4 місяці тому +3

      when you have some money, you also will not want to pay 50% tax. I have a friend who just finished college and got a job - he was always like "ah taxes are nothing" and now he's like I DON"T WANT TO PAY TAXES - YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY TAKE????

    • @soi68
      @soi68 3 місяці тому +1

      Key to becoming rich is living on less than you earn and investing the rest

    • @wilfscovell336
      @wilfscovell336 3 місяці тому

      The rich may pay less tax BUT they quite often take on a lot of risk and its also the rich that fund and do big stuff too complex for the average person. So not a complete gravy train for the rich. 👍