These horns are a hoot! I had a Mt. Vernon 46B for a little that was super fun to play. I eventually sent it off to Noah Gladstone so he and Brad Close could work their magic and get it into (I presume) the hands of a collector.
It looks like when it was redone/overhauled at some point that the main tuning slide was cut - these horns were not designed to be played with modern bass mouthpieces - The Bach 2G mouthpiece was Bach's design for this horn - and a lot of these (like the older 50B's) were cut so that they could be played closer to in-tune with the bigger mouthpieces that trombonists were moving to in the 1970's/1980's.
Super cool horn! I’d love to have one in the collection! Re: identifying the Marston valve, they are (usually) more of a copper or reddish color as opposed to the yellow brass casings used in later valves.
I would love to have a modern version of something along the lines of the 46 with dual bore carbon fiber slide for some of the pit orchestra work I've done like Cabaret
Hey I wanted to ask if there's a way to differentiate between yellow brass, gold brass, and red brass? Great video btw I'm super into this kinda stuff!
You basically just need to know- but you can always differentiate based on color as well. This 45, despite what I say in the video, actually has a gold brass bell but it's hard to tell with the lacquer color.
@@AidanRitchie awesome thanks!! What about chrome plating vs nickel silver? Are those the only two options for silver parts or are there more? I'm taking more and more interest in instrument manufacturing, partly because of your videos!
@@vincentsims8874 Chrome plating is very bright and has nothing over it- nickel silver parts are just polished nickel silver with lacquer, which usually comes off or shows age over time. It's got a duller look.
These horns are a hoot! I had a Mt. Vernon 46B for a little that was super fun to play. I eventually sent it off to Noah Gladstone so he and Brad Close could work their magic and get it into (I presume) the hands of a collector.
Dude your attention to detail and history is awesome! Honestly one of the best around!
Ahhh, good old Rochut 9! My favorite (especially in tenor clef). Thank you for choosing it for the video and for showing off such an interesting horn!
It looks like when it was redone/overhauled at some point that the main tuning slide was cut - these horns were not designed to be played with modern bass mouthpieces - The Bach 2G mouthpiece was Bach's design for this horn - and a lot of these (like the older 50B's) were cut so that they could be played closer to in-tune with the bigger mouthpieces that trombonists were moving to in the 1970's/1980's.
That’s an interesting story about how Alessi designed his slides for his artist models based on the Bach 45 slide.
Super cool horn! I’d love to have one in the collection!
Re: identifying the Marston valve, they are (usually) more of a copper or reddish color as opposed to the yellow brass casings used in later valves.
I have one for sale. 45B
I would love to have a modern version of something along the lines of the 46 with dual bore carbon fiber slide for some of the pit orchestra work I've done like Cabaret
The 46 is the 45 with a dual bore! Even though of course there are dual bore 45s too...
@@AidanRitchie right, I just meant carbon fiber dual bore not metal
@@Knightstar81 yes of course! I didn't like my carbon slide but need to try more
My professor had a 40 slide for a minute... I don't know what receiver they fit though
Bach 40 is a dual bore I think, between 36 and 42. I'd assume those are the smaller connector.
Cool horns. Jay Friedman uses a 45 sometimes.
Right now, it's all he uses! His is very tenory though.
Bit late to the party here, but do you mind telling me the name of the piece you played in the intro? Thanks and love the content - very helpful
Bordogni #9
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Saw CSO in January and Jay was playing on a 45 LOL
Yup, he has been for a few years!
MV45 with a carbon fiber bass slide
Hey I wanted to ask if there's a way to differentiate between yellow brass, gold brass, and red brass? Great video btw I'm super into this kinda stuff!
You basically just need to know- but you can always differentiate based on color as well. This 45, despite what I say in the video, actually has a gold brass bell but it's hard to tell with the lacquer color.
@@AidanRitchie awesome thanks!! What about chrome plating vs nickel silver? Are those the only two options for silver parts or are there more? I'm taking more and more interest in instrument manufacturing, partly because of your videos!
@@vincentsims8874 Chrome plating is very bright and has nothing over it- nickel silver parts are just polished nickel silver with lacquer, which usually comes off or shows age over time. It's got a duller look.
They seem to lean more towards the tenor side of things in my humble opinion
Totally depends on the horn and the mouthpiece
I’m watching you!🧐
Baritone trombone
Pretty much