How to sing Bel Canto II

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  • @BrettOwen71
    @BrettOwen71 8 років тому +155

    Love watching the greats just hanging out, sharing their knowledge, learning from each other, joking, teasing each other. Really nice to see them as real people. For me, it makes their artistry all the more magnificent!

  • @luiscuesta0719
    @luiscuesta0719 3 роки тому +129

    That whistle deserves a grammy

  • @merleelizabeth
    @merleelizabeth 3 роки тому +44

    Has anyone noticed how Mr. Pavarotti blushed when Ms. Horne sang into his ear? A hint of shyness.....so sweet!

    • @flav2689
      @flav2689 3 роки тому +6

      I didn’t at first as I was focused on her singing but I rewatched it when I saw your comment. That’s so cute!! He was very adorable. That voice and such a nice, warm personality - the world lost a lot when he passed away.
      Rest in peace, maestro. ❤️

    • @johnpagaduan3755
      @johnpagaduan3755 3 роки тому +2

      @@flav2689 What is the aria she sang?

    • @flav2689
      @flav2689 2 роки тому +3

      @@johnpagaduan3755 I’m sorry I’m this late (UA-cam notifications are not so great, half of them don’t work), but if you are still searching for it:
      The aria is called Per lui che adoro, it’s from Rossinis opera L'italiana in Algeri 😊

    • @flav2689
      @flav2689 2 роки тому +4

      It’s no wonder really…😂 Because the lyrics she sang are full of romance - the translation:
      ”For him whom I adore,
      for him whom I treasure”
      That and the way she playfully flirted while singing, it’s not a surprise that our maestro who loved women very much in general, thought it was nice ;) I’m a bit jealous for Horne, a lucky lady - she got to do that!

  • @shayanmardanbeigi2697
    @shayanmardanbeigi2697 4 роки тому +53

    That whistle is an instrument of its own, maestro wow!!!!

  • @bagatelleno.2593
    @bagatelleno.2593 5 років тому +60

    4:35 that laugh is staccato xD

    • @stormcorrosion176
      @stormcorrosion176 5 років тому +8

      Bro her laugh sounds like a vocal sampler w massive delay. She is awesome haha

    • @ronaldkatsuki7413
      @ronaldkatsuki7413 3 роки тому +2

      I wish I able to laugh with belcanto

  • @JuliaThornton0823
    @JuliaThornton0823 16 років тому +51

    I love it when Luciano does his whistling! That is awesome!!! He sounds just like a birdie.

  • @mrloverman2.0
    @mrloverman2.0 6 років тому +110

    Omg Pavarotti can whistle better than Mariah Carey.

    • @Cassiopée777
      @Cassiopée777 4 роки тому +2

      @Scott Kasaboski 😂😂😂

    • @am-gobears5191
      @am-gobears5191 4 роки тому +2

      @Scott Kasaboski Great point - very funny!

    • @moe5201
      @moe5201 3 роки тому +2

      @Scott Kasaboski anyone who says shush should be forcibly castrated

    • @gianca60
      @gianca60 3 роки тому +1

      @@moe5201 so Joe Biden should.

    • @musettina6adina224
      @musettina6adina224 3 роки тому +5

      I can testify to that, he d even whistle female roles to help students during auditions.

  • @tecnica-de-voz
    @tecnica-de-voz 16 років тому +76

    'I learnt from the birds!' maravilloso.

    • @musettina6adina224
      @musettina6adina224 3 роки тому +3

      Callas used to watch a canary sing - during her Greek years ,trying to learn from him,too.

    • @kbhprinsesse
      @kbhprinsesse 3 роки тому +1

      I think that was in NY. In Athens she had proper tuition.

    • @musettina6adina224
      @musettina6adina224 3 роки тому +2

      @@kbhprinsesse she had both in Athens. She recalls watching that canary sing in her biography. And was also training at the Athens Conservatory after being initially refused- as well as studying privately with Trivella first,then Elvira de Hidalgo.

  • @cybermoose602
    @cybermoose602 6 років тому +67

    WOW I have never seen a human whistling and actually having a insane vibrato there too, what the hell did I just watch, I just love Luciano even more now.

  • @handrionurhan
    @handrionurhan 16 років тому +18

    I like this sooooooooooooooooo much! The mezza di voce of Horne is awesome,, i think it is superior than of Sutherland.(sutherland is the one in red right?)Pavarotti's bird singing is AWESOME! how can he did that???!!!! Jeeezz.

  • @TheRominaShow
    @TheRominaShow 17 років тому +34

    Three GIANT singers!!! Thank you for this great video, great lesson and great archive! It's so great!

  • @wasabi7497
    @wasabi7497 2 роки тому +14

    5:33 i love how Marilyn just starts speaking Italian like it's nothing

    • @flav2689
      @flav2689 Рік тому +3

      I know, it’s funny and adorable - she’s so talented it’s ridiculous. Not only a incredible singer but also mastering many languages…damn 😂❤

  • @MrStpendouslvforjo
    @MrStpendouslvforjo 4 роки тому +17

    Joan is INCREDIBLE at 3:33! I wonder how many singers could do that? I bet not many...

  • @NatiDeNut
    @NatiDeNut 14 років тому +56

    Pavarotti's whistle is so beautiful!!!

  • @SimonWallfischMusic
    @SimonWallfischMusic 14 років тому +45

    "Now Luciano.... that's another thing..." Wonderful!

  • @dianaventura7999
    @dianaventura7999 10 років тому +36

    Sutherland's trill, 1/2 tone and full tone!!!

  • @guidodiiorio6183
    @guidodiiorio6183 3 роки тому +37

    Marilyn Horne... great voice and great personality

  • @eradesso
    @eradesso 15 років тому +30

    Joan is insane.. her trills...to die for!
    Pavarotti's whistle sounds just like Yma Sumac's trill

  • @TMPSpodcast
    @TMPSpodcast 16 років тому +30

    This video rocks!! Thank you very much for posting it. Three of the greatest singers in the past 100 years. Dame Joan Sutherland!!! Luciano Pavarotti!!!! Marilyn Horne!!!!! Plus conductor Richard Bonynge!! This is truly awesome!!! I want this DVD or Tape or whatever!!!

  • @nickbigd
    @nickbigd 17 років тому +25

    thanks very much for this. love pavarotti's whistle, dame joan's trill, and horne's everything. bonynge is so right on the ephemeral nature of bel canto. it is difficult to summarize in words.

  • @AdIgnorantiam
    @AdIgnorantiam 14 років тому +25

    This is so educational. It's awesome watching masters of a craft discussing the mechanics behind the craft.

  • @puccinislarondine
    @puccinislarondine 15 років тому +11

    Pavarotti is not confused. "mezza voce" does mean 1/2 voice, but "messa di voce" means the placement and or adjustment of the voice. Look up the word "messa" in an Italian dictionary & you'll see what I mean.
    btw, did anyone notice that Pavarotti's whistle is the lead into "Strinodo lassu" from Pagliacci? lol!
    thanks to SueAnne for posting these, these 3 were my holy trinity when I was a young singer. :)

    • @TheOboeCrack
      @TheOboeCrack 6 років тому +2

      thanks ua-cam.com/video/Qql5X_EWpWU/v-deo.html Stridono lassu*

  • @micheleguillerez5915
    @micheleguillerez5915 3 роки тому +37

    This wistle of Luciano Pavarotti deserves a Grammy !💖👏💖

  • @user-of4kk4in9f
    @user-of4kk4in9f 4 роки тому +46

    Sutherland is amazing. True bel canto. Watch her breathe into her lower back and hold her mouth as an oval lying on its side. Pure Caruso!!! The throat is FREE. Don't fool with the natural placement. NO action in throat!

    • @orion8835
      @orion8835 Рік тому +1

      There is action in the throat. The tone is just centered in the middle of the palate. The throat is always engaged. The larynx is low versus raised of course but this fantasy that the throat is bypassed is absurd.

    • @user-of4kk4in9f
      @user-of4kk4in9f Рік тому +2

      @@orion8835 Caruso would disagree. Can you sing like Tetrazzini, who said similar.? They just mean dont actively push, let the BREATH direct the sound through the throat. The breath carries the sound, there is no 'conscious' action in the throat. Obviously the throat moves resultantky. Luckily many students are smart enough to get this.

  • @chrisukeYouTube
    @chrisukeYouTube 11 років тому +22

    That's whistling is unbelievable! Defo going to practice that

  • @1mmickk
    @1mmickk Рік тому +4

    Dame Joan always looked lke she was working when she sang. Ms Horne the sound just appears as if out of thin air. Its also fun to see how these singers are culturally different to your average lead singer in a band.

    • @geminikid1617
      @geminikid1617 3 місяці тому

      Well it’s easier in Marilyn’s case b/c she placed her voice heavily into the mask (practically forcing it there sometimes) & eliminated chest coordination. Singing mask placed, nasal, light, bright & w/the elimination of some chest voice, is far easier than singing in the pharyngeal space w/a low larynx, vertical mouth, naturally dark & lots of chest coordination.

  • @vincej9352
    @vincej9352 6 років тому +35

    Pavarotti even makes whistling sound fantastic

  • @Orfeus80
    @Orfeus80 17 років тому +17

    The Pavarotti bird trill is amazing!

  • @Sicilia928
    @Sicilia928 Рік тому +8

    In my humble opinion, Luciano and Dame Joan are still unmatched. And what a lovely and long marriage Joan and Richard Bonynge had. Quite a pair indeed!

    • @65NART
      @65NART 7 місяців тому +1

      You are right. They don’t make them like that anymore.

    • @operaox10
      @operaox10 17 днів тому

      Right, despite Richard's being gay.

  • @joshuataylor6087
    @joshuataylor6087 3 роки тому +2

    Wasn't Joan so lovely and gracious.. didn't need to be the centre of attention

  • @zlauriault
    @zlauriault 3 роки тому +4

    Pop and rock singers are down in the dirt compared to the art, ability, natural gifting, and technique it takes to sing bel canto.

  • @jenni4claire
    @jenni4claire 16 років тому +20

    The wee birds in Modena in the 30's and 40's must have been better educated than the birds in Ireland. Ours don't even trill 'Happy Birthday'.

  • @marcoshbrj
    @marcoshbrj 16 років тому +13

    From 4:26 to 4:34 was one of the most impressive things I ever saw in my life, Pavarotti is eterno!

  • @bigus
    @bigus 14 років тому +9

    also in the first part of this video pavarotti does a demonstration of the covered sound and says it takes maybe 10 years to make a sound like that. its true because the muscles do not naturally phonate that way unless there is lots of practice and support underneath. one cannot simply pick up the music and sing it beautifully in their natural voice (as you say) immediately if they cannot technically do it. also no one wants to hear someone making adolescent sounds on this music which they will.

  • @lalagonegaga
    @lalagonegaga 15 років тому +9

    Hahahaha, at 5:32 Horne starts speaking in Italian without realising it. :)

  • @gerhards6430
    @gerhards6430 4 роки тому +7

    2:11 - 2:29 is soo beautiful, she's amazing.

  • @ShawDAMAN
    @ShawDAMAN 16 років тому +8

    Ha ha that's cute how Horne hugs Luciano when she sings :P

  • @Gobbi2007
    @Gobbi2007 17 років тому +8

    I agree, Agorante, he can really whistle! I found it funny that he whistles part of Sutherland's Lucia mad scene cadenza.

    • @musettina6adina224
      @musettina6adina224 3 роки тому +1

      He could sing the ladies role too. Did so during auditions, sometimes.

  • @ternitamas
    @ternitamas 6 років тому +17

    2:50 the SHADE! hahaha love it!!

  • @PTCello
    @PTCello 14 років тому +11

    my god... 6:04-6:14... who can do that anymore?

  • @bigus
    @bigus 14 років тому +4

    because he took so long to free his voice and training it to make the correct supported sounds and it takes YEARS of muscle training. with your way, one might have beautiful tone on a few notes, but trained like pav you could have beautiful tone on every note in your range. so whats better? i think the latter because it enables you to sing more music. also, you are correct in a MUSICAL sense but not a VOCAL sense. one needs to have knowledge of the song he is singing to sing it beatifully, true.

  • @magicmonkichi
    @magicmonkichi 13 років тому +9

    I love Joan's "I don't remember" (sonnambula) then "oh yea" and then she throws it out...BRAVA~!

  • @missmia1
    @missmia1 16 років тому +8

    What amazing footage! Thank you for sharing this! Oh to be in the room with these people!

  • @petermeikle
    @petermeikle 16 років тому +10

    What a wonderful 2 video's - So astonishing to see and hear these 3 extraordinary people discussing their actual technique. Thank you for posting xx

  • @vintagepipesnightmares
    @vintagepipesnightmares Рік тому +6

    Look how normal and nice these people were and look at the “ stars” we have today.

  • @ahimsainternational
    @ahimsainternational 12 років тому +13

    Pavarotti is incredible at about 4:20+ -- really amazing.

  • @udonloews1301
    @udonloews1301 Рік тому +2

    I just came on to this channel 45 minutes ago. I will spend this weekend go through all. Thank you❤️❤️😘❤️❤️

  • @tomkenyon4517
    @tomkenyon4517 3 роки тому +7

    They make it seem so easy and effortless to produce perfect sound.

  • @powerinpraise2000
    @powerinpraise2000 17 років тому +7

    this is so necessary to see. I wish this kind of documentation on technique happened with all of the greats in their repertoire, Nilsson and Hotter and Melchior for Wagner, Price Corelli and Tebaldi for Verdi and Verismo etc.

  • @876234ABC
    @876234ABC 16 років тому +7

    I wish I were young!! I'd love to start my life over with this knowledge!

  • @ereccay2k22
    @ereccay2k22 15 років тому +7

    do they have more of these? i wanna watch more of them. so fun to watch them argue too!

  • @HailDante
    @HailDante 4 роки тому +10

    4:26 dude what...

    • @gbner9991
      @gbner9991 3 роки тому

      how does it even work

  • @alessandrott7568
    @alessandrott7568 Рік тому +4

    This is simply priceless. Thank you very much for sharing it.

  • @tantricsurfer
    @tantricsurfer 15 років тому +6

    Fantastic video! Thanks so much. Not only very useful for singers, but also very funny, especially when Luciano whistles. LOL!

  • @bigus
    @bigus 14 років тому +3

    i disagree because the voice like the rest of the body operates with muscles, and those muscles need to be trained through habit forming excersizes so they can actually produce the correct sounds. also most people do not know how to correctly support tone naturally which would leave us very few beautiful singers in the world because they would have just given up when they realized they couldnt sing. for instance most intonation problems are technical and can be fixed with learning the breath.

  • @AmhranaiAlainn
    @AmhranaiAlainn 14 років тому +5

    Essentially there are two schools of thought on singing: The technical way based on tone and physicality and the natural way based on the fact that what nature has given you is all that is needed. The natural way is at the heart of the Bel Canto way of singing. Many of the early recorded singers up until the advent of WW2 sang this way. The advances in science brought about a different approach in teaching by looking at how the voice operated. This has subsequently distracted from the true way.

    • @senna6773
      @senna6773 4 роки тому +1

      Don't talk bullshit. You don't pick an incomplete voice, without head voice development and put to sing opera "naturally". And even those who have natural voices have to learn INTELECTUALLY why and how they are doing something correct and the way to obtain it when facility is lost with ageing. ALL CLASSICAL AND OPERATIC SINGING IS TECHNICAL. The singer have to BUILD or at least DEVELOP his instrument, and one DOES NOT achieve it by merely opening the mouth and singing "naturally". At the end, art conceals art. That's why there are so many ignorants denying the existence of registers or trying to push the chest voice up.

  • @highbaritone
    @highbaritone 17 років тому +4

    This whole evening is available from House Of Opera

  • @raigekimaru
    @raigekimaru 15 років тому +4

    it's funny the way Marilyn Horne looks around seductively when she sings.

  • @bigus
    @bigus 14 років тому +4

    lastly, it is by freeing the voice that you get to actually hear what the persons natural dynamic sound is. if the average joe picked up some music and started to sing, perhaps someone would find beauty in that but they aren't necessarily hearing his natural voice. they might hear hints of it, but with any number of technical problems that 99% of humans will have based on language and bad habits, what you will hear will be the distortion not the natural. no one ever sounded like pavarotti(cont.)

  • @ILoveTobin
    @ILoveTobin 17 років тому +4

    what year is this? it's just awesome, Luciano is the best! ;)

  • @r7diego
    @r7diego 13 років тому +4

    this is so wonderful, here you have a casual friends talk, but htis friends are some of the greatest exponents of lyrics

  • @Calaf120
    @Calaf120 14 років тому +6

    GRandes Maestros !!!

  • @arishjohndalivacayabyab5005
    @arishjohndalivacayabyab5005 5 років тому +2

    So sad callas was not here

  • @Janibeva
    @Janibeva 17 років тому +3

    Cuando vi por primera vez estos videos, me preguntaba quièn era la dama de cabellos oscuros, me imaginè que tendrìa que ser una excelente cantante para estar al lado de estos dos monstruos de la òpera, pero no sbaìa que era mi admirada Marylin horne!!!! Què sorpresa tan agradable conocer al fin su rostro... enormes los 3.

  • @jenni4claire
    @jenni4claire 16 років тому +10

    It does seem like an affectionate, even flirtatious, teasing of Sutherland - the birds he recalls seem to be trilling the mad scene from Lucia , which Sutherland did so famously and so well, with him.

  • @tenorschofield
    @tenorschofield 14 років тому +4

    Bravo!!!!,great, it helps a lot all of us singers!!!!!
    I guess all of us, are followers of these extraordinary talented artists...that pobe their own words that you need double porcentage of working, than of natural abilities. Of course,in here you find most of the Lords Blessings given in this singers voices!!!!

  • @aleksandrosipov7901
    @aleksandrosipov7901 5 років тому +4

    4:26 Bravo Luciano !!!!

  • @TrovadorManrique
    @TrovadorManrique 16 років тому +1

    it's written "messa di voce", not "mezza di voce". "mettere su" means "appoint".

  • @vietanhpiano91
    @vietanhpiano91 3 роки тому +3

    6:03 messa di voce 😱🥰

  • @mdgaultney
    @mdgaultney 15 років тому +4

    Thank you very much for uploading this! I am currently a studying Tenor student and I have found this very helpful.

  • @mermodfreres
    @mermodfreres 16 років тому +4

    What a wonderful posting -- I learned so much! Thank you!!

  • @LoveLeeDay
    @LoveLeeDay 3 роки тому +3

    Bel Canto is given much like grace; and angels pile in to be heard!

  • @marcocampus7943
    @marcocampus7943 3 роки тому +2

    Sutherland's trills ❤️

  • @raigekimaru
    @raigekimaru 15 років тому +3

    I never had to learn how to trill. the hardest thing for me has been learning to sing softly.

  • @pluck833
    @pluck833 5 років тому +3

    Tyne Daly has a beautiful voice..

  • @SiEtIn1
    @SiEtIn1 15 років тому +1

    i had "mother"??? what is "mother"? HER mother? she refers to her mother as if it was an object "hey richard pass me the mother" "no thank you, i don't want mother today"

  • @sarcasticmania
    @sarcasticmania 5 років тому +2

    That whistling is from Lucia's mad scene, no?..

  • @flav2689
    @flav2689 Рік тому +2

    7:33 I cannot. Marilyn is spectacular. ❤

  • @delibeslakme6451
    @delibeslakme6451 3 роки тому +9

    Trio fantástico!!! Las voces más bellas que han existido, timbre bellísimo....

  • @Heojimin
    @Heojimin Рік тому +1

    4:33

  • @KimBakTarot
    @KimBakTarot 3 роки тому

    Jewel~ 너무나 소듕한 비디오입니다... 우어우어..I LOVE technology!!! Thank u whoever made that video! Bless you!

  • @tenormcgee
    @tenormcgee 17 років тому +2

    oh how i wish to have had the three of them as teachers...it'd be the bast damn studio.

  • @jesperjee
    @jesperjee 6 місяців тому

    I fear I will never understand how to get that vibrato.

  • @samlarmer4412
    @samlarmer4412 3 роки тому +2

    Joan has such a delightful laugh

  • @Knappa22
    @Knappa22 Рік тому +5

    Haha even when Marilyn Horne is demonstrating ‘bad’ singing she sounds better than 99% of contemporary singers!

  • @rebal1681
    @rebal1681 2 місяці тому

    I remember seeing this when it first aired on PBS way back when!

  • @kakurangers1993
    @kakurangers1993 14 років тому +11

    Dame Joan Sutherland! Brava!

  • @benedictdsilva3954
    @benedictdsilva3954 9 місяців тому

    Nice video The Joan and Luciano I've heard. The other lady had a musical voice too.

  • @Qtrcirfwd
    @Qtrcirfwd 15 років тому +3

    4:22-4:36 what a B.A. that awesome

  • @dehfacco
    @dehfacco 14 років тому +3

    They make it seems so easy

  • @examineislam926
    @examineislam926 3 роки тому +1

    Or as it was known in the singing world ... Can Belto.

  • @rayre3617
    @rayre3617 Рік тому +1

    I’m so so impressed!

  • @ILoveTobin
    @ILoveTobin 15 років тому +6

    5:30 - Luciano confuses something: Messa di voce should not be confused with mezza voce (Italian, half voice) which means to sing at half strength.
    But that whistle is just incredible!

    • @ternitamas
      @ternitamas 6 років тому +2

      no, he doesn't. he says messa means to put the voice, to place it correctly

  • @afnanalsayed6301
    @afnanalsayed6301 8 місяців тому

    مين هالاربعة؟؟؟ ابغى اسمائهم

  • @markeli613
    @markeli613 17 років тому +2

    very nice bird sound.. i miss pav well

  • @katstrut
    @katstrut 15 років тому +1

    What a treat thank you so much for posting! :) Re the mother comment, it is true what dynamicstuff73 said. Dame Joan wasn't being disrespectful, on the contrary. Thanks again SueAnne.

  • @sevoflurane
    @sevoflurane 17 років тому +1

    I wonder why Pavarotti never returned the favour by teaching Joan how to pronounce Italian...

  • @frenchenstein
    @frenchenstein 2 роки тому +1

    These two videos are a delight. Thank you.

  • @sirasy
    @sirasy 14 років тому +2

    why doesnt pavarotti sing any example???

  • @jamesliketheking
    @jamesliketheking 16 років тому +3

    Loved it! Inspiring!