Love watching the greats just hanging out, sharing their knowledge, learning from each other, joking, teasing each other. Really nice to see them as real people. For me, it makes their artistry all the more magnificent!
I didn’t at first as I was focused on her singing but I rewatched it when I saw your comment. That’s so cute!! He was very adorable. That voice and such a nice, warm personality - the world lost a lot when he passed away. Rest in peace, maestro. ❤️
@@johnpagaduan3755 I’m sorry I’m this late (UA-cam notifications are not so great, half of them don’t work), but if you are still searching for it: The aria is called Per lui che adoro, it’s from Rossinis opera L'italiana in Algeri 😊
It’s no wonder really…😂 Because the lyrics she sang are full of romance - the translation: ”For him whom I adore, for him whom I treasure” That and the way she playfully flirted while singing, it’s not a surprise that our maestro who loved women very much in general, thought it was nice ;) I’m a bit jealous for Horne, a lucky lady - she got to do that!
@@kbhprinsesse she had both in Athens. She recalls watching that canary sing in her biography. And was also training at the Athens Conservatory after being initially refused- as well as studying privately with Trivella first,then Elvira de Hidalgo.
WOW I have never seen a human whistling and actually having a insane vibrato there too, what the hell did I just watch, I just love Luciano even more now.
I like this sooooooooooooooooo much! The mezza di voce of Horne is awesome,, i think it is superior than of Sutherland.(sutherland is the one in red right?)Pavarotti's bird singing is AWESOME! how can he did that???!!!! Jeeezz.
This video rocks!! Thank you very much for posting it. Three of the greatest singers in the past 100 years. Dame Joan Sutherland!!! Luciano Pavarotti!!!! Marilyn Horne!!!!! Plus conductor Richard Bonynge!! This is truly awesome!!! I want this DVD or Tape or whatever!!!
thanks very much for this. love pavarotti's whistle, dame joan's trill, and horne's everything. bonynge is so right on the ephemeral nature of bel canto. it is difficult to summarize in words.
Pavarotti is not confused. "mezza voce" does mean 1/2 voice, but "messa di voce" means the placement and or adjustment of the voice. Look up the word "messa" in an Italian dictionary & you'll see what I mean. btw, did anyone notice that Pavarotti's whistle is the lead into "Strinodo lassu" from Pagliacci? lol! thanks to SueAnne for posting these, these 3 were my holy trinity when I was a young singer. :)
Sutherland is amazing. True bel canto. Watch her breathe into her lower back and hold her mouth as an oval lying on its side. Pure Caruso!!! The throat is FREE. Don't fool with the natural placement. NO action in throat!
There is action in the throat. The tone is just centered in the middle of the palate. The throat is always engaged. The larynx is low versus raised of course but this fantasy that the throat is bypassed is absurd.
@@orion8835 Caruso would disagree. Can you sing like Tetrazzini, who said similar.? They just mean dont actively push, let the BREATH direct the sound through the throat. The breath carries the sound, there is no 'conscious' action in the throat. Obviously the throat moves resultantky. Luckily many students are smart enough to get this.
Dame Joan always looked lke she was working when she sang. Ms Horne the sound just appears as if out of thin air. Its also fun to see how these singers are culturally different to your average lead singer in a band.
Well it’s easier in Marilyn’s case b/c she placed her voice heavily into the mask (practically forcing it there sometimes) & eliminated chest coordination. Singing mask placed, nasal, light, bright & w/the elimination of some chest voice, is far easier than singing in the pharyngeal space w/a low larynx, vertical mouth, naturally dark & lots of chest coordination.
In my humble opinion, Luciano and Dame Joan are still unmatched. And what a lovely and long marriage Joan and Richard Bonynge had. Quite a pair indeed!
also in the first part of this video pavarotti does a demonstration of the covered sound and says it takes maybe 10 years to make a sound like that. its true because the muscles do not naturally phonate that way unless there is lots of practice and support underneath. one cannot simply pick up the music and sing it beautifully in their natural voice (as you say) immediately if they cannot technically do it. also no one wants to hear someone making adolescent sounds on this music which they will.
because he took so long to free his voice and training it to make the correct supported sounds and it takes YEARS of muscle training. with your way, one might have beautiful tone on a few notes, but trained like pav you could have beautiful tone on every note in your range. so whats better? i think the latter because it enables you to sing more music. also, you are correct in a MUSICAL sense but not a VOCAL sense. one needs to have knowledge of the song he is singing to sing it beatifully, true.
this is so necessary to see. I wish this kind of documentation on technique happened with all of the greats in their repertoire, Nilsson and Hotter and Melchior for Wagner, Price Corelli and Tebaldi for Verdi and Verismo etc.
i disagree because the voice like the rest of the body operates with muscles, and those muscles need to be trained through habit forming excersizes so they can actually produce the correct sounds. also most people do not know how to correctly support tone naturally which would leave us very few beautiful singers in the world because they would have just given up when they realized they couldnt sing. for instance most intonation problems are technical and can be fixed with learning the breath.
Essentially there are two schools of thought on singing: The technical way based on tone and physicality and the natural way based on the fact that what nature has given you is all that is needed. The natural way is at the heart of the Bel Canto way of singing. Many of the early recorded singers up until the advent of WW2 sang this way. The advances in science brought about a different approach in teaching by looking at how the voice operated. This has subsequently distracted from the true way.
Don't talk bullshit. You don't pick an incomplete voice, without head voice development and put to sing opera "naturally". And even those who have natural voices have to learn INTELECTUALLY why and how they are doing something correct and the way to obtain it when facility is lost with ageing. ALL CLASSICAL AND OPERATIC SINGING IS TECHNICAL. The singer have to BUILD or at least DEVELOP his instrument, and one DOES NOT achieve it by merely opening the mouth and singing "naturally". At the end, art conceals art. That's why there are so many ignorants denying the existence of registers or trying to push the chest voice up.
lastly, it is by freeing the voice that you get to actually hear what the persons natural dynamic sound is. if the average joe picked up some music and started to sing, perhaps someone would find beauty in that but they aren't necessarily hearing his natural voice. they might hear hints of it, but with any number of technical problems that 99% of humans will have based on language and bad habits, what you will hear will be the distortion not the natural. no one ever sounded like pavarotti(cont.)
Cuando vi por primera vez estos videos, me preguntaba quièn era la dama de cabellos oscuros, me imaginè que tendrìa que ser una excelente cantante para estar al lado de estos dos monstruos de la òpera, pero no sbaìa que era mi admirada Marylin horne!!!! Què sorpresa tan agradable conocer al fin su rostro... enormes los 3.
It does seem like an affectionate, even flirtatious, teasing of Sutherland - the birds he recalls seem to be trilling the mad scene from Lucia , which Sutherland did so famously and so well, with him.
Bravo!!!!,great, it helps a lot all of us singers!!!!! I guess all of us, are followers of these extraordinary talented artists...that pobe their own words that you need double porcentage of working, than of natural abilities. Of course,in here you find most of the Lords Blessings given in this singers voices!!!!
i had "mother"??? what is "mother"? HER mother? she refers to her mother as if it was an object "hey richard pass me the mother" "no thank you, i don't want mother today"
5:30 - Luciano confuses something: Messa di voce should not be confused with mezza voce (Italian, half voice) which means to sing at half strength. But that whistle is just incredible!
What a treat thank you so much for posting! :) Re the mother comment, it is true what dynamicstuff73 said. Dame Joan wasn't being disrespectful, on the contrary. Thanks again SueAnne.
Love watching the greats just hanging out, sharing their knowledge, learning from each other, joking, teasing each other. Really nice to see them as real people. For me, it makes their artistry all the more magnificent!
That whistle deserves a grammy
Has anyone noticed how Mr. Pavarotti blushed when Ms. Horne sang into his ear? A hint of shyness.....so sweet!
I didn’t at first as I was focused on her singing but I rewatched it when I saw your comment. That’s so cute!! He was very adorable. That voice and such a nice, warm personality - the world lost a lot when he passed away.
Rest in peace, maestro. ❤️
@@flav2689 What is the aria she sang?
@@johnpagaduan3755 I’m sorry I’m this late (UA-cam notifications are not so great, half of them don’t work), but if you are still searching for it:
The aria is called Per lui che adoro, it’s from Rossinis opera L'italiana in Algeri 😊
It’s no wonder really…😂 Because the lyrics she sang are full of romance - the translation:
”For him whom I adore,
for him whom I treasure”
That and the way she playfully flirted while singing, it’s not a surprise that our maestro who loved women very much in general, thought it was nice ;) I’m a bit jealous for Horne, a lucky lady - she got to do that!
That whistle is an instrument of its own, maestro wow!!!!
4:35 that laugh is staccato xD
Bro her laugh sounds like a vocal sampler w massive delay. She is awesome haha
I wish I able to laugh with belcanto
I love it when Luciano does his whistling! That is awesome!!! He sounds just like a birdie.
Omg Pavarotti can whistle better than Mariah Carey.
@Scott Kasaboski 😂😂😂
@Scott Kasaboski Great point - very funny!
@Scott Kasaboski anyone who says shush should be forcibly castrated
@@moe5201 so Joe Biden should.
I can testify to that, he d even whistle female roles to help students during auditions.
'I learnt from the birds!' maravilloso.
Callas used to watch a canary sing - during her Greek years ,trying to learn from him,too.
I think that was in NY. In Athens she had proper tuition.
@@kbhprinsesse she had both in Athens. She recalls watching that canary sing in her biography. And was also training at the Athens Conservatory after being initially refused- as well as studying privately with Trivella first,then Elvira de Hidalgo.
WOW I have never seen a human whistling and actually having a insane vibrato there too, what the hell did I just watch, I just love Luciano even more now.
Do you know what song the whistling is from?
(That's not vibrato, it's a trill!)
@@pablomonserrat1267 Thank you!!
@@pablomonserrat1267 Lucia di Lammermoor
I like this sooooooooooooooooo much! The mezza di voce of Horne is awesome,, i think it is superior than of Sutherland.(sutherland is the one in red right?)Pavarotti's bird singing is AWESOME! how can he did that???!!!! Jeeezz.
Three GIANT singers!!! Thank you for this great video, great lesson and great archive! It's so great!
5:33 i love how Marilyn just starts speaking Italian like it's nothing
I know, it’s funny and adorable - she’s so talented it’s ridiculous. Not only a incredible singer but also mastering many languages…damn 😂❤
Joan is INCREDIBLE at 3:33! I wonder how many singers could do that? I bet not many...
Pavarotti's whistle is so beautiful!!!
"Now Luciano.... that's another thing..." Wonderful!
Sutherland's trill, 1/2 tone and full tone!!!
Marilyn Horne... great voice and great personality
Joan is insane.. her trills...to die for!
Pavarotti's whistle sounds just like Yma Sumac's trill
This video rocks!! Thank you very much for posting it. Three of the greatest singers in the past 100 years. Dame Joan Sutherland!!! Luciano Pavarotti!!!! Marilyn Horne!!!!! Plus conductor Richard Bonynge!! This is truly awesome!!! I want this DVD or Tape or whatever!!!
thanks very much for this. love pavarotti's whistle, dame joan's trill, and horne's everything. bonynge is so right on the ephemeral nature of bel canto. it is difficult to summarize in words.
This is so educational. It's awesome watching masters of a craft discussing the mechanics behind the craft.
Pavarotti is not confused. "mezza voce" does mean 1/2 voice, but "messa di voce" means the placement and or adjustment of the voice. Look up the word "messa" in an Italian dictionary & you'll see what I mean.
btw, did anyone notice that Pavarotti's whistle is the lead into "Strinodo lassu" from Pagliacci? lol!
thanks to SueAnne for posting these, these 3 were my holy trinity when I was a young singer. :)
thanks ua-cam.com/video/Qql5X_EWpWU/v-deo.html Stridono lassu*
This wistle of Luciano Pavarotti deserves a Grammy !💖👏💖
Sutherland is amazing. True bel canto. Watch her breathe into her lower back and hold her mouth as an oval lying on its side. Pure Caruso!!! The throat is FREE. Don't fool with the natural placement. NO action in throat!
There is action in the throat. The tone is just centered in the middle of the palate. The throat is always engaged. The larynx is low versus raised of course but this fantasy that the throat is bypassed is absurd.
@@orion8835 Caruso would disagree. Can you sing like Tetrazzini, who said similar.? They just mean dont actively push, let the BREATH direct the sound through the throat. The breath carries the sound, there is no 'conscious' action in the throat. Obviously the throat moves resultantky. Luckily many students are smart enough to get this.
That's whistling is unbelievable! Defo going to practice that
Dame Joan always looked lke she was working when she sang. Ms Horne the sound just appears as if out of thin air. Its also fun to see how these singers are culturally different to your average lead singer in a band.
Well it’s easier in Marilyn’s case b/c she placed her voice heavily into the mask (practically forcing it there sometimes) & eliminated chest coordination. Singing mask placed, nasal, light, bright & w/the elimination of some chest voice, is far easier than singing in the pharyngeal space w/a low larynx, vertical mouth, naturally dark & lots of chest coordination.
Pavarotti even makes whistling sound fantastic
The Pavarotti bird trill is amazing!
In my humble opinion, Luciano and Dame Joan are still unmatched. And what a lovely and long marriage Joan and Richard Bonynge had. Quite a pair indeed!
You are right. They don’t make them like that anymore.
Right, despite Richard's being gay.
Wasn't Joan so lovely and gracious.. didn't need to be the centre of attention
Pop and rock singers are down in the dirt compared to the art, ability, natural gifting, and technique it takes to sing bel canto.
So true.
The wee birds in Modena in the 30's and 40's must have been better educated than the birds in Ireland. Ours don't even trill 'Happy Birthday'.
hahaahah.
From 4:26 to 4:34 was one of the most impressive things I ever saw in my life, Pavarotti is eterno!
also in the first part of this video pavarotti does a demonstration of the covered sound and says it takes maybe 10 years to make a sound like that. its true because the muscles do not naturally phonate that way unless there is lots of practice and support underneath. one cannot simply pick up the music and sing it beautifully in their natural voice (as you say) immediately if they cannot technically do it. also no one wants to hear someone making adolescent sounds on this music which they will.
Hahahaha, at 5:32 Horne starts speaking in Italian without realising it. :)
2:11 - 2:29 is soo beautiful, she's amazing.
Ha ha that's cute how Horne hugs Luciano when she sings :P
I agree, Agorante, he can really whistle! I found it funny that he whistles part of Sutherland's Lucia mad scene cadenza.
He could sing the ladies role too. Did so during auditions, sometimes.
2:50 the SHADE! hahaha love it!!
my god... 6:04-6:14... who can do that anymore?
because he took so long to free his voice and training it to make the correct supported sounds and it takes YEARS of muscle training. with your way, one might have beautiful tone on a few notes, but trained like pav you could have beautiful tone on every note in your range. so whats better? i think the latter because it enables you to sing more music. also, you are correct in a MUSICAL sense but not a VOCAL sense. one needs to have knowledge of the song he is singing to sing it beatifully, true.
I love Joan's "I don't remember" (sonnambula) then "oh yea" and then she throws it out...BRAVA~!
What amazing footage! Thank you for sharing this! Oh to be in the room with these people!
What a wonderful 2 video's - So astonishing to see and hear these 3 extraordinary people discussing their actual technique. Thank you for posting xx
Look how normal and nice these people were and look at the “ stars” we have today.
Pavarotti is incredible at about 4:20+ -- really amazing.
I just came on to this channel 45 minutes ago. I will spend this weekend go through all. Thank you❤️❤️😘❤️❤️
They make it seem so easy and effortless to produce perfect sound.
this is so necessary to see. I wish this kind of documentation on technique happened with all of the greats in their repertoire, Nilsson and Hotter and Melchior for Wagner, Price Corelli and Tebaldi for Verdi and Verismo etc.
I wish I were young!! I'd love to start my life over with this knowledge!
do they have more of these? i wanna watch more of them. so fun to watch them argue too!
4:26 dude what...
how does it even work
This is simply priceless. Thank you very much for sharing it.
Fantastic video! Thanks so much. Not only very useful for singers, but also very funny, especially when Luciano whistles. LOL!
i disagree because the voice like the rest of the body operates with muscles, and those muscles need to be trained through habit forming excersizes so they can actually produce the correct sounds. also most people do not know how to correctly support tone naturally which would leave us very few beautiful singers in the world because they would have just given up when they realized they couldnt sing. for instance most intonation problems are technical and can be fixed with learning the breath.
Essentially there are two schools of thought on singing: The technical way based on tone and physicality and the natural way based on the fact that what nature has given you is all that is needed. The natural way is at the heart of the Bel Canto way of singing. Many of the early recorded singers up until the advent of WW2 sang this way. The advances in science brought about a different approach in teaching by looking at how the voice operated. This has subsequently distracted from the true way.
Don't talk bullshit. You don't pick an incomplete voice, without head voice development and put to sing opera "naturally". And even those who have natural voices have to learn INTELECTUALLY why and how they are doing something correct and the way to obtain it when facility is lost with ageing. ALL CLASSICAL AND OPERATIC SINGING IS TECHNICAL. The singer have to BUILD or at least DEVELOP his instrument, and one DOES NOT achieve it by merely opening the mouth and singing "naturally". At the end, art conceals art. That's why there are so many ignorants denying the existence of registers or trying to push the chest voice up.
This whole evening is available from House Of Opera
it's funny the way Marilyn Horne looks around seductively when she sings.
lastly, it is by freeing the voice that you get to actually hear what the persons natural dynamic sound is. if the average joe picked up some music and started to sing, perhaps someone would find beauty in that but they aren't necessarily hearing his natural voice. they might hear hints of it, but with any number of technical problems that 99% of humans will have based on language and bad habits, what you will hear will be the distortion not the natural. no one ever sounded like pavarotti(cont.)
what year is this? it's just awesome, Luciano is the best! ;)
this is so wonderful, here you have a casual friends talk, but htis friends are some of the greatest exponents of lyrics
GRandes Maestros !!!
So sad callas was not here
Cuando vi por primera vez estos videos, me preguntaba quièn era la dama de cabellos oscuros, me imaginè que tendrìa que ser una excelente cantante para estar al lado de estos dos monstruos de la òpera, pero no sbaìa que era mi admirada Marylin horne!!!! Què sorpresa tan agradable conocer al fin su rostro... enormes los 3.
It does seem like an affectionate, even flirtatious, teasing of Sutherland - the birds he recalls seem to be trilling the mad scene from Lucia , which Sutherland did so famously and so well, with him.
Bravo!!!!,great, it helps a lot all of us singers!!!!!
I guess all of us, are followers of these extraordinary talented artists...that pobe their own words that you need double porcentage of working, than of natural abilities. Of course,in here you find most of the Lords Blessings given in this singers voices!!!!
4:26 Bravo Luciano !!!!
it's written "messa di voce", not "mezza di voce". "mettere su" means "appoint".
6:03 messa di voce 😱🥰
Thank you very much for uploading this! I am currently a studying Tenor student and I have found this very helpful.
What a wonderful posting -- I learned so much! Thank you!!
Bel Canto is given much like grace; and angels pile in to be heard!
Sutherland's trills ❤️
I never had to learn how to trill. the hardest thing for me has been learning to sing softly.
Tyne Daly has a beautiful voice..
i had "mother"??? what is "mother"? HER mother? she refers to her mother as if it was an object "hey richard pass me the mother" "no thank you, i don't want mother today"
That whistling is from Lucia's mad scene, no?..
7:33 I cannot. Marilyn is spectacular. ❤
Trio fantástico!!! Las voces más bellas que han existido, timbre bellísimo....
4:33
Jewel~ 너무나 소듕한 비디오입니다... 우어우어..I LOVE technology!!! Thank u whoever made that video! Bless you!
oh how i wish to have had the three of them as teachers...it'd be the bast damn studio.
I fear I will never understand how to get that vibrato.
Joan has such a delightful laugh
Haha even when Marilyn Horne is demonstrating ‘bad’ singing she sounds better than 99% of contemporary singers!
I remember seeing this when it first aired on PBS way back when!
Dame Joan Sutherland! Brava!
Nice video The Joan and Luciano I've heard. The other lady had a musical voice too.
4:22-4:36 what a B.A. that awesome
They make it seems so easy
Or as it was known in the singing world ... Can Belto.
I’m so so impressed!
5:30 - Luciano confuses something: Messa di voce should not be confused with mezza voce (Italian, half voice) which means to sing at half strength.
But that whistle is just incredible!
no, he doesn't. he says messa means to put the voice, to place it correctly
مين هالاربعة؟؟؟ ابغى اسمائهم
very nice bird sound.. i miss pav well
What a treat thank you so much for posting! :) Re the mother comment, it is true what dynamicstuff73 said. Dame Joan wasn't being disrespectful, on the contrary. Thanks again SueAnne.
I wonder why Pavarotti never returned the favour by teaching Joan how to pronounce Italian...
These two videos are a delight. Thank you.
why doesnt pavarotti sing any example???
Loved it! Inspiring!