Tony Robinson Down Under | E1 | Race To The End Of The World
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- In this episode Tony examines the beginnings of white settlement in Australia. Why did it remained undiscovered by European maritime nations for so many hundreds of years? And how was Captain Cook able to claim it for Britain in 1770? Tony gets an aboriginal perspective of what it was like to witness boatloads of ghost like creatures arriving from over the horizon…the first contact. And he finds a man with an incredible theory about who really got to Australia first after the aborigines. Was it the Dutch? The French? The Chinese? Or perhaps, just perhaps, Egyptians set foot Down Under thousands of years ago.
I could watch Tony Robinson history shows and travelogues all day long. Fantastic presenter.
I could watch Crocodiles hung like Baboons eat Beagle sausages and toasted Bananas all day long....does it make Crocs fantastic presenters?
I didn’t realize how many shows old Baldrick had done…He’s great!
@@bobbaker9395 And the Sheriff of Nottingham too don't forget lol.
...."i've got a cunning plan"....,I'm going to subscribe! 😆
I fear you have an intellect of a long turnip which doesn't even know whether to get into the bottoms or mouthpiece
Mr Tony Robinson, " you are one of The most brilliant AND intelligent delivering The documentaries, history of the Past Kings AND Queens AND all historical Counteris BRAWO, BRAWO 👏 👏
Egyptians? Isn’t that just a little far-fetched, mate?
There's other cave paintings of Egyptian looking people ,i was very sceptical too but I'm starting to wonder . It's interesting that in a lot of Aboriginal cultures they wear headgear that looks like the Egyptians for ceremonies
@James-kv6kb an interesting idea, but the hieroglyphs were disproven as frauds
Not at all. The Kahun made their way as far as Hawaii
Okay... Pausing at a minute in to read the description because I couldn't have seen what I thought I saw but apparently I did.
The Kariong hieroglyphs are so fucking fake it's not funny. This site baffles me, not because it exists but because anybody with the most basic understanding of hieroglyphs can read the name of one of the most famous pharoahs in history... and it's "spelled" wrong but nobody ever seems to mention it.
The 'local folklore' @9:40 is utter bullshit made up by people who don't have a the slightest clue about hieroglyphics. Those two birds are not brothers and that snake didn't bite either of them. Those hieroglyphs are alphabetical. They are letters no different to our ABCs. The bird corresponds with our letter U and the horned viper is the letter F. There is actually a fourth hieroglyph here but we'll get to it in a moment. There is no possible way to interpret these hieroglyphs in any kind of narrative sense.
I say that it's "spelled" wrong because that series of hieroglyphs is inside a cartouche, which isn't a cartouche so much as a vague recollection of a cartouche and a serekh combined. Regardless of how appallingly bad it is drawn, it is clearly meant to be a cartouche and that can mean only one thing: the name of a pharoah.
I thought I saw a glimmer of recognition in Tony's face when he saw the hieroglyphs in question and the fact that the fourth hieroglyph within the 'cartouche' is at all times off camera suggests that he probably did instantly recognise what it says. Again, it's ridiculously easy to read and the fact that it's inside a 'cartouche' demands that it's the name of a pharoah rather than any kind of narrative.
So far as that alleged narrative goes, Egypt has a couple of things in common with Australia: crocodiles and venomous snakes. Cobras are everywhere in Egyptian iconography, and they used a variety of hieroglyphs to denote all things serpentine. A snake bite is not something new and unfamiliar that Egyptians had no words for. If an Egyptian were to be bitten by a snake and felt the need to write about it he would have had plenty of words, and individual hieroglyphs, at his disposal. Apparently, however, our shipwrecked scribe just drew a snake.
This site, near Gosford in NSW, was discovered in the 1970s and identified as a 1920s 'Pharoah Fever' meeting/party location of a club from UNSW(?). It was made popular at the turn of the century by Rex Gilroy, a man who has spent his life 'discovering' out-of-place artefacts, such as Roman busts, Greek coins, Hebrew inscriptions, and Phoenician settlements, all over the country. Said items are kept in his museum and the locations of his 'finds' are kept secret from the archaeologists who would destroy them.
To be fair, some of his 'discoveries', such as standing stones, are authentic sites (I personally confirmed the existence of a stone circle south of Sydney, which was destroyed in the 1960s to make way for a football field) BUT he just makes shit up and attributes them to Celts, Vikings, and Hebrews, rather than the obvious Aboriginal peoples. For example, based on alleged inscriptions found nearby, he identifies an ochre mine as being used by (I kid you not) Phoenicians, Celts, Libyans, and Egyptians, rather than the locals who have been using ochre for literally tens of thousands of years. While you can't quite call him Eurocentric, his views certainly seem to add up to "anyone but Aboriginals".
Remember that fourth hieroglyph I mentioned? This happens to be one of those cases where the source of a 'translation error' can be readily identified. In an article in the July-August 2002 edition of Hard Evidence magazine, spruiking his book Pyramids in the Pacific, where Gilroy attempts to 'prove' the Kariong hieroglyphs by linking them to a variety of his other sites, he gives a translation for the name as X-u-net-u. Where the 'net' part came from is anyone's guess (that snake can only be an F) but the X is quite obvious, especially since he translates another name in a nearby 'cartouche' as Anx-renp-re-u. That X is not an X, it's the Greek letter Chi, used in E. A. Wallis Budge's dictionary to represent the sound 'kh', such as in Ankh. The fourth hieroglyph is correctly identified as a sieve by Gilroy but he gives it the value of X rather than Kh.
There's no ifs, buts, or maybes, about this, the name in that 'cartouche' is KHUFU, builder of the Great Pyramid.
Why is arguably the second or third most famous pharoah in Egyptian history (after Tutankhamen (or Tutanxamun if you'd prefer... ) and Cleopatra) effectively glossed over in so many discussions of this site? When he IS mentioned, it is only in passing as the father of the "prince" shipwrecked in Australia, rather than the Pharoah who sent him here. People should be wetting themselves over mention of Khufu and he should be the very first fucking thing mentioned in any discussion of this site but he's not. There should, at the very least, be people pointing out Khufu's building of the Great Pyramid and his Solar Barques as circumstantial evidence to back up their claims but I've only seen that once or twice in almost 20 years.
Could it have anything to do with this being the sole reference to this 'Prince Nefer-Djeseb' anywhere in the world? Why would Khufu send his son to a far off land and make no mention of it anywhere? Why did the Egyptians fail to mention that one of Khufu's sons sailed off never to return? On that note, why did the Egyptians never make even the vaguest reference to outposts thousands of miles, and two oceans, away, when Khufu himself made such a big deal about receiving gold from the far away land of Punt, in the Horn of Africa, and his successor Sahure sent an expedition there only a few decades later? Punt is worth mentioning but Australia isn't? Oh, but of course, it was all a secret. The Egyptians didn't want anybody to know about the secret location of their secret ochre mines in a secret land on the other side of the world.
Also, more of an aside than anything else, that stick figure is just that - a stick figure. It does not correspond with any Egyptian hieroglyph, which includes an abundance of human figures. That very modern stick-figure is the smoking gun of a hoax.
I'm disappointed that Tony dismissed this as a bit daft instead of thoroughly debunking it in a few seconds, as he so easily could have. Then again, maybe there's a cunning plan at play here and I should watch the rest of the doco.
Wow!!! Thanks for your generous explanations!
"Tony dismissed this as a bit daft". To be fair, he does say, "Very, very daft". But your point is well taken. He shouldn't have spent so much time on what was obviously a hoax. Thanks for your long and interesting explanation.
I love the way Tony Robinson presents things, but even he is not allowed to make up history. The terms "avocado" and "barbeque" do NOT come from Australia. "Ahuacatl" is the Aztec name for "avocado", which comes from Mexico, and the name "barabicu" is Arawak Native American (Caribbean Indians) -- via old Spanish -- which meant "roasting meat over a wooden frame." So, please do one's homework when stating facts in order to support the credibility of the rest of the show.
Also, where are the indigenous people?? You'll see a didgeridoo played in a later episode, but even that's played by a white guy. Myself and my partner, who are huge Tony Robinson fans and are both white Australians, are disappointed in the total absence of indigenous people. Even the part he does on Alice Springs is devoid of Aboriginal people... What the???! 🤔
What about the man in the first five minutes who’s family “goes back thousands of years”? Keep up!
@@MrOllieBD sorry, my sincere apologies. I'm not trying to make this an equality thing but I thought that he would really focus on the indigenous folk in our country, some have a lot to offer, others don't. And after living with many, and working with loads more, I don't understand making a program about Australia without at least 10-20% of the program about aboriginals.
My partner and I are not huge lovers of indigenous peoples EVERYWHERE in Australia, but I'd hazard a guess that 90% of them have ZERO wrong with them, and simply want to be accepted. We DID come here as white oppressors, let's not forget, came from Tony's home country to do so in fact!! I thought he'd address it more and am disappointed.
Tony didn't make anything up. He was talking about a man's journal who travelled around the world, he recorded these words which later became common place in the English language.
Not once did he claim these words came from Australia, he was just talking about a travellers book who travelled the world including Australia about 100 years before Cook.
South Africa it's called a braai pronounced bry
The Egyptian visitors has since been proven false.
How can it be proven wrong when we're not allowed to do any research anymore for fear that a previous race was here first
Before 1901 there was no country Australia. The First Fleet arrived in New South Wales as named by Cook in 1770, and established as a British Colony by Phillip in 1788. It comprised the Eastern half of the Continent,New Zealand and other islands.
Yeah we've just watched the movie no need to tell us again
@@James-kv6kb No need to tell us that mate, no one cares.
@@anEyePhil no one cares about stupid people that have nothing else to do in their day but repeat what we've just seen lol are you from generation S or something?
First sentence “I always thought the British discovered Australia in the year 1770”. There was no Australia then only Indigenous country. Australia began in 1901.
@@anEyePhil there you go when intelligent people try to comment they get rid of that because they're trying to dumb you down
9:28 ff - As my 104 year-old Sicilian barber would say, “bull$#*t@to”...
@@James-kv6kb The problem is that these 'hieroglyphs' have been de-bunked long ago. They say nothing, they are an ignorant person's idea of hieroglyphs.
@@Mirrorgirl492not necessarily true.. the Egyptians did get around navigating by the stars.
They were disproven years ago. They only appeared in like the 80s or something. Even looking at them can tell you it's an amateur job
At school in the 70s, we were taught that Dirk Hartog had left a plate on a post on an island off west Australia. William Dampier explored the nth west( the Dampier archipelago is named after him).
Van deiman had named Tasmania(van diemans land) Long before the English arrived. The Dutch had maps of west Coast, new Zealand was already being settled, the maccasins were trading with the Aboriginals in the north of Australia.
All this happened long before captain cook claimed the east coast.
It was very obvious that cook did not discover Australia and any one who claims that we weren't taught this in school is at best , ignorant and dumb or at worst lying.
The French knew of the great southern land and arrived just days after the first fleet. (La Perouse, just South of Sydney is named after him).
When Mathew Flinders was sent to circumnavigate and see if Australia had an inland sea splitting the country in two, there was also a French expedition( led by Boudin) doing the same thing at the same time. They met up in the south of Australia.
Tony is the best, Love watching him. He is funny and witty. Keep making more!!!!!!!!!!!
What is the actual point of the series? It's extremely bizarre to us, 2 white Australians, to see a TV series about 'down under' with indigenous people absent. Also... Where's Dirk Hartog?? 🤔
lucky sods to going to different country
I dont think most Australians give a fig about having a first-fleeter in the family. Not remotely like Americans and their 'Mayflower' idolisation
Tony Robinson explains history so well, fantastic guy and a legend
I believe Cook insisted on a coal ship.
The Egyptians came here for a Spiritual top up, hey?
.THANK YOU Sir Tony. I didnt know my history until you came along
The most people from America aren't very good with history lol
Women were burned at the stake for petty treason, not ordinary crimes. It was pretty rare for a woman to charged with that instead of murder.
Anyone is welcome to come here and live as a hunter gatherer like the Aboriginals do did its a life choice still available to all,
That ship.jpeg in the back of shot gave me a proper laugh
Like Columbus, Britain didn't discover shit, Australia was already inhabited when they landed in the continent!
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did you pay for that hot dog?
Tony, I've been a fan of yours ALL my life, my partner too, between us that's 104 years! However, I'm yet to see an indigenous person in this documentary!! We've seen 4 episodes so far and are heartbroken, not to mention confused, by your total lack of indigenous peoples in this series! The only person playing a didgeridoo was white, and the only rock art you showed are the crazy Gosford UFO carvings, which are a local joke. Can you explain the lack of coloured people in Alice Springs? Or anywhere else for that matter?? Really disappointed in the show thus far 😢
This originally aired on history channel back in 2011. You are watching decade old film
@@BrockytheBadger what's your point friend?? 🤔
Usually it makes me cross if theres so many ads through a video, u want to watch the video not ads! But hey, this is Tony Robinson, hes good so, it's ok if hes paid for what he does...and I'll tell u what Tony, if u make my family history come to life as well as u do with world history, I wont mind if u add a few more ads! Lol...
That's an awfully disgusting idea.
@@AsadAli-jc5tg terminology not good...doesnt say how I meant it lol
Didn't get you
It's like the old days of television we don't mind a couple of ads if there's quality viewing , unlike UA-cam where they come up for a 30-second video
Sorry but who puts souwer crout on a hot dog lol never have i seen that in australia i no that much
Probably not on the nightclub hot dogs but I've seen it many times
Given how many Germans settled in Australia, it's often an option - especially in a good quality hot dog. Probably just not an option at the footy.
Welcome to the penal colony of Port Jackson, woyld you like garlic or chilli sauce on your kebab?
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HAIL Sir Tony Robinson !!!!
i luv u tony robsinson
No not 47000 years.
It's not pronounced 'yongu' it's pronounced 'yong ool
Spelt yonglu
39:39 Tony giving eyes to the girl 'sleeping' next to him 🤣🤣
Wtf why are there like 3 different shows that are all just the same footage in different orders?
that moment when this video is blocked in australia lololol
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@@victoriacamila3564 This video is a pure insult to every Australian
Phillip did not forget the lime, he knew very well that on any coast line sea shells were common. If you burnt and crushed then you got a form of lime.
I think he was refering to the fruit, full of vitamin c ,stops scurvy.
when was this documentary made?
when is he going to do a show about Canada?!
There's none in the quene. The Queen is absolutely opposed to any such idea so Sod Off!
Where in Australia is Canada ? Is it near Yabby Creek ?
No convicts in South Australia
SA is full of them
Oh that's right they call the prison inmates now 🤣
@@Kahlanrogue No we have criminals here we don't have convicts lol
@@Kahlanrogue Might want to check the other statement love before you start getting excited with your laugh faces
I'll go rhythm
LOL the egyptians had ships 2000 years (( that is 2000 b.c ! )) before so called christ was born !! DONT BE FOOLED AND NIEVE HERE , the egyptians where cleverer back then than ANYONE else on this planet back then !!
The Egyptians wore fake beards and thus out of the race of civilized people. Sod off!
Just no. Stop it.
I haven’t watched this yet but the positive vibe makes me think that the destruction of the natives is going to be skipped over.
Yea, yea, yea...And if it were half of the rest of the world that "settled" this great land, there'd be none fuckinn left...
Probably because the real Aboriginal people aren't allowed to speak for themselves anymore and are made the live on reservations while their white cousin steal all the money.
he chucked the sausage from the hotdog in the bin lol
NO he didn't.
@@AsadAli-jc5tgyes he bloody did are you fkn blind or something
Australia has Best Flag.
Because it is based upon a dress design worn by one of the Spice Girls...Sod Off!
That man was Baldrick...how in the hell he ended up here? 🤔😐
They aren't the original inhabitants! they look more Indian.
52:15
They're not allowed to show real Aboriginal people we are supposed to think they're all died out so they're relatives can get more compensation money
@@James-kv6kb I wonder what made you such an ignorant, hateful person. Have you failed at life and want to take it out on others? Or were you born lacking empathy?
Tony looks right into you, like he's taking the piss...!!!!