New 2x 10GbE + 8x 1GbE $99 Silent Switch MikroTik CSS610-8G-2S+IN

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  • Опубліковано 22 лис 2024

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  • @KaldekBoch
    @KaldekBoch 3 роки тому +8

    As a heavy Mikrotik user, always buy the CRS version of a switch if one exists. You can dual boot to CSS mode (SwOS) or CRS mode (RouterOS/ROS). At some point you'll hit the limit of what SwOS offers and you'll be thankful you can boot to ROS.

  • @excitedbox5705
    @excitedbox5705 3 роки тому +24

    I think Mikrotik always has a great balance of features for the price. It fills a very nice spot in the prosumer space. I was also surprised when their small 10Gb switches came out at how cheap they were compared to most other options.

  • @popeter
    @popeter 3 роки тому +77

    man if this had 1-2 POE out ports it would be perfect for my office

    • @MrV1NC3N7V3G4
      @MrV1NC3N7V3G4 3 роки тому +1

      I came here to say the same thing. Maybe it will be available in an all PoE variety, albeit with a cooling fan I guess. EDIT: He just covered that.

    • @forbiddenera
      @forbiddenera 3 роки тому +1

      Agree.. but also I feel like other ports should be at least 2.5g..and 2 10gbe feels limiting.. should have at least 3 so it can stack..if you hooked two together at 10gbe..you still only get 2 10gb ports

    • @forbiddenera
      @forbiddenera 3 роки тому +1

      The POE in seems like it would be most useful with poe out.. I don't see where you would mount a switch where you wouldn't have power.. and if it was then you'd want it to power other devices like waps or cameras

    • @BlownMacTruck
      @BlownMacTruck 3 роки тому

      Mikrotik always eventually puts PoE on their switches, you just have to wait a bit.

    • @mattmichael2441
      @mattmichael2441 3 роки тому +1

      @@forbiddenera a lot of cheap switches are often used to provide more ports somewhere. Its common to only have one port coming from the wall in a room. Your main switch can feed poe to the one port powing this switch.

  • @Rogue136
    @Rogue136 3 роки тому +17

    As soon as they launch a version of this with PoE I will be buying this.

  • @adrian_b42
    @adrian_b42 3 роки тому +29

    2.5Gbps instead of 1Gbps, this is what is needed in 2021.

    • @brentgreeff1115
      @brentgreeff1115 3 роки тому

      Yea - need a 2.5 gig review.

    • @ABUNDANCEandBEYONDATHLETE
      @ABUNDANCEandBEYONDATHLETE 3 роки тому

      Is this for the home or ISP perspective? Or other...?

    • @Alan.livingston
      @Alan.livingston 3 роки тому

      I wonder how many more years before the components are cheap enough for a company like Mikrotik to build this style of device at this price point.

    • @forbiddenera
      @forbiddenera 3 роки тому +8

      Yeah..at least. And only 2 10gbe feels limited. If there was 3 or 4 you could stack em at 10gbe and run 2 of them to get a few extra 10g ports on the cheap. If this had poe out, at least 3 pref 4 10gbe ports and rest is 2.5gbe I would be all over it, even if it was slightly more.

    • @the_DOS
      @the_DOS 3 роки тому

      @@ABUNDANCEandBEYONDATHLETE Home.

  • @jeremybarber2837
    @jeremybarber2837 3 роки тому +3

    I love the diverse options that Mikro Tik keeps coming out with.

  • @williamanthony7224
    @williamanthony7224 3 роки тому +76

    10gb to my NAS and my workstation, 8 1g ports is enough for the rest of the house. But why is that power plug not on the back

    • @tommyariap3464
      @tommyariap3464 3 роки тому +7

      Maybe they expect you to turn it up with PoE in ? or, since it is for a desk they maybe thought they'll just put all cables on the front, so you can push it to the wall without a cable flexed in the back.

    • @williamanthony7224
      @williamanthony7224 3 роки тому +9

      @@tommyariap3464 Both points are very valid, just not the use case for me. MikroTik are doing far more to meet my use cases at this price point that anybody else though so it’s not a deal breaker

    • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
      @MichaelSmith-fg8xh 3 роки тому +2

      @@williamanthony7224 Same, I ended up with a mikrotik switch as it was the only switch to hit my price point without a fan. I wasn’t after a managed switch but it hasn’t proved too annoying (you will have to use their windows app and log in to the device at least initially to do some initial config). Having the NAS with a multi gig connection into the main switch is a very good thing.

    • @tolpacourt
      @tolpacourt 3 роки тому +1

      Probably cheaper to have it on the front, somehow.

    • @TheFlatronify
      @TheFlatronify 3 роки тому +2

      @@MichaelSmith-fg8xh WinBox works perfectly using it via Wine on a Linux system (!) :)

  • @theonik2006
    @theonik2006 3 роки тому +7

    This is a nice switch for a TV setup. You get 8 1G ports to connect all your media equipment and a single 10G port plus the uplink to connect a media PC/Mac mini. For $99 it's pretty compelling.
    Wish the power was at the back though. having it in the front is kind of a dealbreaker.

  • @brokebothmearms9237
    @brokebothmearms9237 3 роки тому +3

    I love all the coverage of mikrotik gear you do. Thanks for all the content.

  • @sagetechnology4913
    @sagetechnology4913 3 роки тому +3

    I'm kinda glad they did the thing with the long rack ear, I own a CSS326, and about a third of it it just empty space.

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 Рік тому +2

    You can use the two SFP+ ports as additional 1gbps ports, but you may need to go in and set them to 1gbps because the auto function doesn't find a lot of the SFP modules. I had to do that on my CRS 309-xxxx switch.

  • @NTNLabs
    @NTNLabs 3 роки тому +1

    This is what I need to connect the living part of my house with the technical part. It's 1gig now and it gets saturated really easy.

  • @brotheradam
    @brotheradam 3 роки тому +1

    what I saw was the voltage allowed in which allows you to run it off a solar array battery system.. 12/24/48..your choice..as it can accept up to 57volts...

  • @goodiezgrigis
    @goodiezgrigis 3 роки тому +1

    I just checked and it is about 65€, pretty good deal for tv setup with sfp for sparate uplink and nas connection.

  • @rjy8960
    @rjy8960 3 роки тому +2

    I've got a couple of Mikrotik switches in my home lab and they are really reliable and just work. The switchOS software is easy to use and compared to my Netgear GS108 8-port managed switch, it is miles ahead. This will replace the Netgear with a couple of SFP+ to RJ-45 converters to upgrade for more bandwidth into the lounge.

  • @AndrewLatham
    @AndrewLatham 3 роки тому +19

    New test rubric of falling light impact test.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +2

      This has never happened (and it is uncommon to get big lights like this.) However, have to take lessons where we can find them.

  • @brunosalezze
    @brunosalezze 3 роки тому +1

    I love their routers with poe in and out. Very nice to power the moden+router with just one poe port form the switch.

  • @Phil-D83
    @Phil-D83 3 роки тому +3

    Cost to add additional features is minimal. Love this company

  • @SteveJones172pilot
    @SteveJones172pilot 3 роки тому +1

    This is crazy.. The first twisted pair networks I did were Synoptics 3000 and 3030 models, and the port cards were roughly $100 per PORT.. not including the chassis or management modules, and they were only 10mbps.. How far we've come!!

  • @leadiususa7394
    @leadiususa7394 3 роки тому +3

    Nice video, I went with the MikroTik 10GB eight port switch instead and use POE injectors instead for it was cheaper for me to do and still do POE. Refer to my videos on the MikroTik 10GB switches

  • @davidg4512
    @davidg4512 3 роки тому +4

    What a killer deal for the functions

  • @AmitChaudhry27
    @AmitChaudhry27 3 роки тому +4

    I want this one now for my home

  • @jolness1
    @jolness1 3 роки тому +10

    This is kinda cool. Been wanting some faster links between my server and my workstation. Was looking for something with some 2.5 or 5gbe but this might be the winner. I would love 3 or 4 10gb but I really don't need more than two.

    • @brentgreeff1115
      @brentgreeff1115 3 роки тому +2

      I also want 2.5 X 4 ports - but it must fit in my pocket - not sure if there is a decent one at that size. -- I might also just use a mini-pc with extra ports & run ubuntu for complete control.

    • @andrewt9204
      @andrewt9204 3 роки тому +1

      I just bought a Zyxel desktop switch last week, It has 8 1Gb ports, two 2.5Gb, and 2 SFP+ ports. I'm running 10G fiber to my desktop, and 2.5G to my file server. And various 1Gb to modem, printer, work laptop docking station, and mesh wifi pucks.
      www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084MLC83G It was only 139 when I bought it, I'm sure it will be on sale again.

    • @andrewt9204
      @andrewt9204 3 роки тому +1

      @@brentgreeff1115 Qnap makes a relatively compact 5 port 2.5Gb switch. It's out of stock everywhere at the moment, but looks like it will be back soon. I was going to go 2.5Gb for everything in my home until I saw that Zyxel I commented on above. Edit - It doesn't have SFP+ slots, not sure if that was a requirement.

  • @Airbag888
    @Airbag888 3 роки тому +25

    I'd love it if it had 8x POE 1Gbe, 4x 2.5 or 5Gbe and 2-4x 10Gbe
    8x 1Gbe for general usage/cctv
    4x 2.5/5Gbe for Wifi6 access points
    2-4x 10Gbe for either daisy chaining or straight up linking NAS + Home server + Main desktop
    I wonder if anything like that exists that SIPs power like this does, specially with ethernet and not SFP 2.5Gbe/10Gbe

    • @lcrazy8l
      @lcrazy8l 3 роки тому +2

      The only time I've seen this was with the Netgear ProSafe MS510TXPP.
      4x 1GbE
      2x 2.5GbE
      2x 2.5/5GbE
      2x 10GbE (one rj45 & one sfp+).
      I know I'd love to see more with an assortment like that as well but I've really never seen it outside of this one model. Unfortunately it's $350 so no I've not purchased it. 😭

    • @Airbag888
      @Airbag888 3 роки тому +3

      @@lcrazy8l Yeah this (to me and for my setup) is the ideal port distribution. Amazing and also out of stock.. I'd need 2 of them

  • @ttww1590
    @ttww1590 3 роки тому +2

    Great overview. Perfect level of detail. Thanks!

  • @vonkruel
    @vonkruel 3 роки тому +4

    This is quite an interesting switch for a lot of home users (including me) & some small businesses. I expect to see 2.5 Gbps becoming more common this year though, and the 1G ports may be a bummer before too long. 4x1G + 4x2.5G + 2x10G would be great.

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 3 роки тому

      make the 4x 1G POE out ports and this switch would be amazing :D

    • @aeonikus1
      @aeonikus1 2 роки тому

      @@LiLBitsDK Then it would cost 200-300$ :D

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 2 роки тому

      @@aeonikus1 fine with me, we need more POE switches are might as well be GOOD ones while we are at it

  • @brandishwar
    @brandishwar 3 роки тому +1

    If you're going to put this in a rack, just put it on a rack shelf. You can have two of these sitting side-by-side on a rack shelf without issue. I have mine sitting next to a PoE switch that runs my security cameras. It doesn't fit vertically entirely in a 1U space, which can be an issue if you try to rack mount. It's a simple switch, though, that you can just plug into your devices and go. I didn't do any configuration or customization to mine. Just plugged in the Gigabit connections, plugged up the uplink to my 10GbE switch (MikroTik CRS317 booting into SwOS that I've considered switching out for the CRS309), and off it went. It just works.
    I also considered the CSS326, but I wasn't sure about the 24 ports on it as I don't think I'd ever use anywhere close to all of them. So when I saw the CSS610, I jumped on it. And if I need more than 8 ports - which is more likely than needing more than 16 ports - then I'll just buy another CSS610 and a short DAC cable.
    My only complaint is the 12V power jack not being in the back of the unit.

  • @PWingert1966
    @PWingert1966 3 роки тому

    Having had a $1000 switch stolen from a display on a trade show floor I can appreciate your comment. Staff was in meeting cubbies, and someone just walked by disconnected the power and the two network cables and put it in the carry bag and walk away. Since it was just for display and not functional it wasn't noticed for about twenty minutes. We now cable lock all displays hardware since then.

  • @Tedlasman
    @Tedlasman 3 роки тому +6

    Super cool switch. Kinda considering selling all (or most) of my unifi stuff and switching to microtik

  • @youtubecommenter4069
    @youtubecommenter4069 3 роки тому

    Patrick's favorite phrase; "that is just what it is", 1:26

  • @RobertRidleyE
    @RobertRidleyE 3 роки тому +1

    I am waiting for the crs318-16p-2s+in. They already have basically the same switch available, but it has an outdoor enclosure.

  • @mzaferyahsi
    @mzaferyahsi 3 роки тому +10

    I own this and I urge you to wait and not get it! The firmware is still at RC and some functions like VLANs are not working properly. Therefore making this an unmanaged switch with 2 extra SPF+ ports. Until the firmware is fixed, my unit is useless. Do check the Mikrotik forums about this topic before you do any purchase.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +7

      Totally. We waited until the RC6 firmware to publish this because that was the first one that we could get to complete our tests. Rohit discussed this in his main site review. That is why we are calling this more of a plug items in and get basic connectivity switch rather than a higher-end unit. The shipping firmware was not good.

  • @maxslotov
    @maxslotov 3 роки тому +3

    You should check out the Mikrotik RB5009UG+S+IN.
    USB 3.0, 7x 1G, and 1x 2.5G Ethernet and a 10G SFP+ cage in a 1/4 1U rack space, sounds really impressive

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +3

      It just so happens I have 4x sitting next to my desk right now and the 4x in 1U mounting brackets

    • @maxslotov
      @maxslotov 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo 🌚🌚🌚

  • @sopota6469
    @sopota6469 3 роки тому +1

    I found it for 78€ including tax, for a gigabit switch with two SFP+ ports this value is insane!

  • @morosis82
    @morosis82 3 роки тому +2

    I've been looking for something like this, PoE out on at least 2-4 ports would be amazeballs though. I want this on my desktop, 10g to my server rack, 10g to my desktop, Poe for running experimental crap on my desk.

  • @brianw.4985
    @brianw.4985 3 роки тому +1

    Something like this for the homelab with 10g for nas/nfs/iscsi looks pretty useful.

  • @VigneshBalasubramaniam
    @VigneshBalasubramaniam 2 роки тому +1

    I would love to see you guys do a video on the MikroTik RB5009UPr+S+IN POE router.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  2 роки тому

      Just arrived. Showed it at the end of the video today. Review is coming

  • @artlessknave
    @artlessknave 3 роки тому +1

    Technically Correct Man says:> "technically, 2s and 2s+ are not the same thing, but the way you state them conflates them together."

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 3 роки тому +5

    I'd love this with 4x 10g, for $150, Two different variants would also be pretty sweet, 2x10g, and then 8xPOE(for low powered cameras) for $150-190, and then a 4x10g and 16x1g for ~$200
    Would love a POE version of this to properly isolate my secirity cameras
    As a side note, when are we going to make rack mounted servers and switches vertically oriented for passive cooling? Something in a 1-2u width, but a 4-12 u height

    • @denvera1g1
      @denvera1g1 3 роки тому

      @Robert Slackware The cooling is my point, the best option for passive cooling(which almost all 48 port gigabit with quad 10g switches can do if set up properly) are desktop consumer switches without fans, because these consumer switches usually have cooling vents on both side of the switch instead of a blow through front to back design. Yes, put some fans on the switches, but most of the time, run it passive. In the 5 years i've been working where i am, we've lost something like 16 switches from fan failure, which is far more than 20%. Reliability should be the main reason to go passive, but power savings would be significant in larger installations. Not only will the power usage, and thus UPS draw decrease, but the heat load for the NOC will also decrease. With 3-7 5-10w fans, even at some of the highest electric motor efficiecnies, a rack with 6 switches at the top will pump out between 18-84wm multiply that by at least 6 racks, thats 100-500w plus the power needed to condition that air(30-160w). Over the course of a year, thats 1.1-5.8MWh, or, where i live, roughly $130-$700 in electricity costs just to have fans that will fail eventually. And this is just our small community college, imagine the savings at a large office complex that needs thousands of network ports
      Sure POE switches will still (probably) need constant fans even sitting vertically, but it could bring those 20w fans down to 5-10w, and off during low load

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus 2 роки тому

      4-12U height would be super awkward in a rack. Better to make it full or half width, 1U height of ports, with an extra 1U above for just a big heatsink. A big-ass extrusion like that might cost a lot of money though. Most users would probably want to upgrade by the time the fans fail, rather than pay for that extrusion.

    • @denvera1g1
      @denvera1g1 2 роки тому

      @@concinnus I was talking about servers, not just switches, loading either the servers in from the top of the rack, or slotting them in like books on a shelf so that the heat would act as a fan to pull air through the server, its still 1u, but the rack effectively laying on its side.
      Passive cooling doesnt work without airflow, and horizontal servers dont allow for heat to rise until after it exits the server

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus 2 роки тому

      @@denvera1g1 A properly designed datacenter or even server closet has more airflow from the AC outlet to return than you'd ever get from passive convection. If you wanna use the top few U for switches and have heat float out of the top of the rack, that could work alright, but you'd also need intake air at the bottom of the switch array.
      And regardless, since you're taking up many U and could use 120mm instead of 40mm fans, you could get a 24/7 x 20yr lifespan easier that way.

  • @TheOnewithforce
    @TheOnewithforce 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome peace of equipment, sadly bought another RB today to use as bridge for a cable backbone of new home mesh.

  • @m.m.m.c.a.k.e
    @m.m.m.c.a.k.e 2 роки тому +1

    Nice review brother

  • @Vatharian
    @Vatharian 3 роки тому +1

    That's nice $150 switch you have there! Greetings from EU!

  • @manuelcoliano1101
    @manuelcoliano1101 3 роки тому +3

    *!WARNING!* I do own a few of these exact model switches and currently there is some firmware issues regarding vlans (DHCP not working via VLANs), management access via SFP+ ports and some other smaller kinks.
    Mikrotik has been really good in the past with ironing out these kinks, but right now its not picture perfect
    EDIT: There is a thread in the official mikrotik forums, where people are collecting the stuff that is not working yet. Go take a look for those interested in this device.

    • @manuelcoliano1101
      @manuelcoliano1101 3 роки тому +1

      Update: Most of the complaints have been fixed now. THANK YOU Mikrotik

  • @zapityzapzap
    @zapityzapzap 3 роки тому +1

    I don't think missing components in the board are for future PoE use. I think they are the parts which aren't for the reverse PoE on the CSS610-1Gi-7R-2S+OUT (i.e. netPower Lite 7R). However, that still leaves some hope that we will see something similar to the CSS326 and CRS326 where for a little bit more there will be CRS versions (maybe with PoE and maybe without) as replacement for CRS112 switches.

  • @MarkHimsley
    @MarkHimsley 3 роки тому +11

    I'd buy the CSS610-8G-2S+IN if the power was on the back and it ran RouterOS. I'd rather get the CRS326-24G-2S+IN, even though it would take a lot more desk space.

    • @SimmanGodz
      @SimmanGodz 3 роки тому

      It's got PoE-in, so You can eliminate the power connector. Still kinda lame, but you've got another options.

  • @digitalinversion9500
    @digitalinversion9500 3 роки тому +1

    this is a weird one, 2.5g Lan and it have been really useful but 1g is not replacing anything and the 10g by them self not cutting it

  • @dimitris470
    @dimitris470 Рік тому

    The 326 is on the big boys league. It can do L3 stuff on top of everything else. TBH it's a no-brainer, especially the SWoS version

  • @BobHannent
    @BobHannent 3 роки тому +1

    If I didn't already have my DGS-1510-20 I would jump on that!

    • @richards7909
      @richards7909 3 роки тому +2

      Well, it can put up with lights being dropped on it so jumping could be fine, Bob...

    • @BobHannent
      @BobHannent 3 роки тому +1

      @@richards7909 #facepalm

  • @jmlemmi
    @jmlemmi 3 роки тому

    This is exactly what the Ubiquiti US-8-150 successor should be! I'm so deep in the Unifi System, I dont really want to leave. But Mikrotik is really enticing, both with the CRS305 and this one.

    • @longtimber1
      @longtimber1 3 роки тому

      Ubiquiti is GRID interdependent. Does not have 8-57V input.

  • @insanehd2940
    @insanehd2940 3 роки тому

    So the Switch I was looking for, caus we do a lot of LAN-Partys and live streaming, since we started streaming over the network, so every PC needs at least 250mbit for the Stream feed, the streaming PC needs a 10Gbit link :)

  • @longtimber1
    @longtimber1 3 роки тому

    Use a Newpower 16P for POE. Outdoor rated

  • @vincentbrandon7236
    @vincentbrandon7236 3 роки тому +2

    omg. This might be perfect for me!! I wanted a 10gb that could bridge my two NAS for replication!!

    • @K2_Chris
      @K2_Chris 3 роки тому +1

      Depending on your hardware (which I don't know) ensure your NAS can handle 10G. If the I/O cannot handle it, you're just wasting money.

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 3 роки тому +1

      uh... you could simply slap a crossover cable on them, no switch needed.

    • @vincentbrandon7236
      @vincentbrandon7236 3 роки тому

      2x TrueNAS mini x's. I think I can run 10gb crossover, 10gb to the switch, and 10gb to my workstation. Fear of packet storms..

    • @sablanex
      @sablanex 3 роки тому

      @@LiLBitsDK you don't need any special crossover cables these days.

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 3 роки тому +1

      @@sablanex I know, it was just to indicate that there was no "device" inbetween other than the cable

  • @vaikjsf34a
    @vaikjsf34a 2 роки тому

    The zip tie is better, the metal thing you showed would be likely to cut into the wire's insulation and short it out. Rip on it enough times and it will.

  • @alexandrpyankov430
    @alexandrpyankov430 3 роки тому +1

    But does it have link aggregation?

  • @TheOscylO
    @TheOscylO 3 роки тому +2

    For my use case would be great if it had 10Gbps ports but with RJ45. Adding mentioned adapters triples the price so not the option for me.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +2

      Totally true but having 10Gbase-T costs a lot more than using SFP+ due to the PHYs.

    • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
      @MichaelSmith-fg8xh 3 роки тому +1

      Check out the Netgear GS110MX for that (also reviewed by STH)

    • @TheOscylO
      @TheOscylO 3 роки тому

      @@MichaelSmith-fg8xh Thanks for the suggestion. It's nice switch but unmanaged :(. Looks like for now 10Gbps switches are out of the equation for me. Pfsense with multiple 10Gbps RJ-45 will do for now.

    • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
      @MichaelSmith-fg8xh 3 роки тому

      @@TheOscylO Netgear make a managed version too

  • @MartinStrazynski
    @MartinStrazynski 3 роки тому +2

    Zyxel's XGS1210-12 and XGS1010-12 seem to offer more features and ports for marginal cost difference. Any thoughts on those units @ServeTheHome?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      It may not seem like much, but in this space that is a lot more. In the MikroTik stack at $139 you get the CSS326-24G-2S+RM which is a 24x 1GbE + 2x 10GbE switch. At the end of the video I mention that going up a little in price may not seem like a lot, but to many it is.
      If the suggestion is that we look at those, I can ask Rohit.

    • @MartinStrazynski
      @MartinStrazynski 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Hmm, I understand that commentary re: price bracket. A $50-75 price jump is a 50+% price increase. Yeah, that's a different market segment. Didn't think in those terms. Was thinking more about capabilities than budget. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the zyxel models previously mentioned if you are game. Thanks for reading and replying. Your content is thorough, easy to digest and I appreciate your attention to detail. Cheers!

  • @systemofapwne
    @systemofapwne 3 роки тому

    If it had 4 SFP+, I would have bought this unit instead of the CRS305-1g-4s+in lately. But maybe in the future, I will add it to the crs305 and uplink it to that unit with 10gbe

  • @thy25138
    @thy25138 3 роки тому

    Add 8 Poe and some 2.5g ports.
    I am still looking for the perfect home switch. Need poe for my AP's and cameras. 2.5g for my computer's and 10g for my server. The rest can run at 1G. That's my dream switch.

  • @catminister3327
    @catminister3327 3 роки тому

    TP Link TL SX105 (5 Ports) TL SX108 (8 Port) 10Gbe switches deserve a mention - cheaper isnt always better

  • @BenState
    @BenState 3 роки тому

    IR camera when running full stick? Bet it gets hot.

  • @frank-christiankruegel2199
    @frank-christiankruegel2199 3 роки тому +2

    I'd need 802.1X support in SwitchOS for me to be usable.

  • @MisterMacintosh1
    @MisterMacintosh1 3 роки тому +1

    I dont know if anyone will read this, but i got this exact switch about 2 weeks ago. I was already pretty familiar with RouterOS on my hEX S, but SwOS (lite) was new for me.
    Unfortunately this switch ships with alpha build software and there is no update available. Some really important and basic features (like accessing the management page from SFP+) are not there or are really unstable. I would wait some time before buying this switch when MikroTik updates their software.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      Noted in the main site review, check RC6 which fixed the VLAN issues for us. You are right that using more of the managed features is not great. That is why we are calling this more of a "plug stuff in and it connects" L2 switch rather than a more full-featured switch. Even when the firmware is updated, it still will not have a lot of features people want.

    • @MisterMacintosh1
      @MisterMacintosh1 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo thanks for the info, i didnt know they fixed the VLAN issues. I had the same experience, and even saw frames arriving at clients that still had the 802.1q tag. Good to see that Mikrotik keeps working on their software tho.

  • @MoraFermi
    @MoraFermi 3 роки тому +5

    . . . I was just thinking about looking for a pair of switches like that. Huh.

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h 2 роки тому

    Would be perfect with 4 SFP+ ports, and 4 of these 1GBASE-T being PoE. 2 ports are very limiting. You are going to just connect two computers, or use it for uplinking. What if you want to have 2 computers and an uplink? Yes, I know there is the CRS305-1G-4S+IN, but it has no 1GBASE-T ports, and is not rack form factor.
    But I understand it is built around specific Marvell ASIC.

  • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
    @MichaelSmith-fg8xh 3 роки тому

    Maybe it’s a compliment to an existing SFP+ switch... adding this switch instead of adding rj45/SFP+ adapters into the original... otherwise I’m scratching my head a little for applications.

  • @jisagi
    @jisagi 3 роки тому +1

    Really like the Switch, but I think just for future upgradeability 1G wise, the CSS326-24G-2S+RM is a better choice. The price or only around 10% higher. If that isn't neded though, it is a really nice choice

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      Rohit and I had the same thought. That is why we both put the CSS326 in the main site review/ article. Then again, there are a lot of markets where the $40 price difference means more than those extra 16 ports.

    • @jisagi
      @jisagi 3 роки тому +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo I can only agree. When we're already talking about this price range, even a 10-20% can be a deciding factor

  • @twank6234
    @twank6234 3 роки тому +2

    Hey STH,
    I'm looking at replacing some of our firewalls in the DC and found a product that really stood out of the competition, might be good to take a look at especially at the price point.
    Fortigate 200F
    1U, 4x 10G, dual PSU, great throughput even with a load of NGFW stuff enabled, a lot of 1G ports and hovering around the 5000 dollar mark. A quick look at the competition (Cisco, Checkpoint, Juniper SRX, Palo alto etc) shows that the 200F comes with great hardware for the price.

  • @ClammyCement
    @ClammyCement 3 роки тому +1

    @ServeTheHome The link to the main site review 404s for me.

  • @_K.A.R.
    @_K.A.R. 3 роки тому

    with 4x SFP+ (for some more bucks) this thing would be really cool

  • @tommyariap3464
    @tommyariap3464 3 роки тому +2

    Wait, i just realized this. in 4:11 you explicitly mentioned that we can use RJ-45 adapter in the SFP's cages in this particular switch, as not every switch with SFP/SFP+ cage capable of that. I thought SFPs for DACs, Optical and RJ-45 adapter are interchangeable in one single format, SFP. It isn't ??

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +2

      The S+RJ10 adapters generate more heat which causes physical limitations. For example, the CRS305-1G-4S+IN is only spec'd to use two of the adapters in its four ports due to power/ thermal limitations.

    • @tommyariap3464
      @tommyariap3464 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo I see, this new for me, Thanks.
      Also, that also explain why my CRS won't activate all of its SFP cages, but dang it just won't tell anything.

  • @doogle4144
    @doogle4144 3 роки тому +2

    Are there many 2.5 GbE small desktop switches in the market? With newer MB's now including 2.5G networking onboard, a lot of people (myself included) don't know much about how to review switches and which units are available. Perhaps their demand may increase as more 2.5G onboard NIC's are installed as standard

  • @IsoMacintosh
    @IsoMacintosh 3 роки тому +1

    While this is a cool switch looking at mikrotiks site those 10 gig RJ-45 adapters cost 65 bucks so two of them is more than the price of the switch, additionally they mention that when used with passively cooled switches additional cooling may be required.

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy 3 роки тому

      But one can use a DAC cable or a transceiver, so in the long run SFP+ can be more versatile. Really should have 4 of em though

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 3 роки тому

      @@mrmotofy transceivers are expensive and you can't run DACs through your walls or over long distances.... Most home 10gig networks are 10GBase-T because it's way simpler and cheaper to run CAT6a through your walls and it still works with all your 1gig devices... Once you add in the cost of DACs or transceivers to this switch, you might as well get a 10GBase-T switch... And really, what use is that "versatility" to an average homeowner?

  • @stevefxp
    @stevefxp 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Patrick can you stack two of these together? If yes two could be a low cost core switch option for home enthusiasts.

    • @Soda88
      @Soda88 3 роки тому +2

      CSS series does not support 802.1BR.
      Supported devices as of now are (where CB - controller bridge, PE - port extender):
      CB PE
      netPower 15FR (CRS318-1Fi-15Fr-2S) - +
      netPower 16P (CRS318-16P-2S+) - +
      CRS326-24G-2S+ (RM/IN) - +
      CRS328-24P-4S+ - +
      CRS328-4C-20S-4S+ - +
      CRS305-1G-4S+ - +
      CRS309-1G-8S+ + +
      CRS317-1G-16S+ + +
      CRS312-4C+8XG + +
      CRS326-24S+2Q+ + +
      CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ + +
      CRS354-48P-4S+2Q+ + +

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 3 роки тому

      @@Soda88 he could still stick 2 together if he wished and run them as simple switches ;-) just plop em together with the 10G ports which would leave him with 16 1G and 2 10G free (handy if they are needed in "two locations" else it would make more sense to just buy the 24 port one which has 24x 1G and 2x 10G (more ports, cheaper than buying 2 of these)

  • @shanebauman6555
    @shanebauman6555 3 роки тому +1

    I see a STH review of a new mikrotik switch, I click.

  • @UPPERKEES
    @UPPERKEES 2 роки тому

    Does it also fit into a 10 inch rack? Would be nice if it's not just 19 inch, since this is more like a hobby switch.

  • @rsmorhaj
    @rsmorhaj 3 роки тому +9

    It seems that mikrotik.com/product/netpower_lite_7r#fndtn-specifications has the same hardware but with POE (features) components. Presumably, this mainboard was developed for this product and then downscaled, at least explains the weird placement of the DC jack.

    • @Andrew_Thrift
      @Andrew_Thrift 3 роки тому +1

      The netPower Lite 7R is a "special" switch for internet service providers. It is for REVERSE PoE. e,g, the switch is powered by the remote devices that backfeed power up the ethernet cable to the switch. This is desirable in low cost condo/multi-dwelling-unit type installs

  • @belgio96
    @belgio96 3 роки тому +1

    thanks for the videos, I was looking for something like this, soon we will be connected with ftth gpon with rate limit of 2.5G/200m and I want to replace the router*. the isp should give as a mini ont (sfp) without ppp connection. so, is there a box like this with decent layer 3 performance? the lan setup should be 3 2.5g devices and 4-7 1G device (maybe with different subnet). I could use pfsense or similar, but it is still hard to find cheap multi port 2.5 pcie cards, motherboards and cpu combo with enough pcie bandwidth (on low power) and a combination of those cheaper than this things. I really hope 2.5g devices will come out.
    * the original is a 4 port 1G without link aggregation

  • @insdeck2deck
    @insdeck2deck 3 роки тому +1

    mikrotik uses 24v adapters and no PoE ports like 48-57v. I like mikrotik products but I cant use them at my workplace because of lack of poe or even highPoe ports.

    • @joaodiogo2515
      @joaodiogo2515 3 роки тому +1

      You need to take a closer look at their product matrix again bud.

  • @MirkWoot
    @MirkWoot 3 роки тому +1

    Damn, these things are making it really hard for me to justify getting a older cisco switch, which id want for several other reasons... but this..
    Even more attractive if it had the PoE

  • @JonDisnard
    @JonDisnard 3 роки тому +3

    Does this switch support LACP (link aggregation)?

  • @rrwakc
    @rrwakc 3 роки тому

    The board is allready PoEin populated in outdoor IP54 Mikrotik netPower Lite 7R for $129

  • @Phil-D83
    @Phil-D83 3 роки тому +3

    2 additional 10gbes would be nice

    • @toysareforboys1
      @toysareforboys1 3 роки тому +2

      For sure, four 10gb and eight 1gb ports would be so flawless.

    • @Clobercow1
      @Clobercow1 3 роки тому

      At least one more. That would allow being able to stack these and get usable ports.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      Totally. I think you move to a higher-end switch chip at that point which costs more.

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 3 роки тому

      CRS328-24P-4S+RM still not "super expensive" so that might be an option for ya?

  • @sharkbytefpv4326
    @sharkbytefpv4326 3 роки тому

    This video bought you a sub!

  • @power-max
    @power-max 3 роки тому +2

    I'm looking for something exactly like this, but with PoE capability. Does such a thing exist at this price point or less? Idea would be to power several IP ethernet cameras and an AP or 2 and having a it managed would be ideal.

    • @DozIT
      @DozIT 3 роки тому

      Why would you need 10Gb for that? Any 8 port PoE switch should solve your problem

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      No, but as mentioned in the review the PCB in the switch has un-placed component pads that indicate MikroTik could fairly easily make a PoE variant.

    • @popeter
      @popeter 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo yea i'm prob gonna wait out for that version (CSS615?) so from one fiber run to my office can connect my workstation at 10G and power my office AP

    • @power-max
      @power-max 3 роки тому

      ​@@DozIT It could, but if you wanted a lot of high-bandwidth PoE devices all sending traffic to something like a NAS, then you'd also want the network to have a fat pipe back to the rest of your high bandwidth network. like high quality IP cameras, AP's w/ lots of clients and high traffic to a NAS, maybe?
      Also if the switch were to be located in another building, having a fiber run to it would be safer to avoid having low voltage wiring run outside where a nearby lightning strike could result in enough of a transient induced in a twisted pair run to fry your whole network, and if your going to use SFP or preferably SFP+

  • @fubareleet
    @fubareleet 3 роки тому +1

    i'd love a 8 to 12 port 2.5g + router for under $200

  • @MrHasie
    @MrHasie 3 роки тому

    How does this compare with other switches at this price point and port count? Vendor support, reliability, security etc?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      In this price bracket, there is not really great competition (pricing in this tier is usually somewhere in the $20-30 increments.) This switch has had quite a few firmware challenges beyond being a fairly basic L2 switch. So in a relative comparison, Cisco is better, but costs more to the point they are not competitors.

  • @chrisellison8366
    @chrisellison8366 3 роки тому

    Please note it currently has issues with the Switchos version that ships with it ( mine came with 2.12rc2) . - that you can't get to the management UI over the SFP+ ports . You can upgrade to 2.13rc5.0 available from the Mikrotik website but note these are NOT final release versions only release candidates . its a nice little switch , just let down by unfinished software. Maybe it shares a PCB with the netpower lite 7R which is a similar product code would explain the POE components missing on the 610.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому

      Hi Chris, there is a RC6 in the forums as well if you have not seen that. We mentioned that in a bit more detail in the full main site review. That is why we are calling this more of a basic switch.

    • @chrisellison8366
      @chrisellison8366 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo - Its a great little switch - i have my workstation plugged in to it in my office over 10gig and then the other SFP+ linked back to a css326-24G-2s+RM that has my NAS in the other SFP+ port and works great . Just a bit disappointed they chose to release a product that didn't have finished firmware - took me an hour of head scratching to figure why i couldn't connect. The only other thing that would make the css610 even better would be if the ports were POE out - that would make a perfect remote switch to drive 4k CCTV cameras .

  • @ForbiddenUser403
    @ForbiddenUser403 3 роки тому

    That power plug.. Right smack in the middle front.. what the hell were they thinking?

    • @andrewt9204
      @andrewt9204 3 роки тому

      yeah, strange considering the board had what looked like power input pads on the rear.

  • @im.thatoneguy
    @im.thatoneguy 3 роки тому

    Really don't understand the purpose of this switch.
    As a router this would be perfect. 2x 10gb would mean a >1gb internet/wan in and >1gb lan uplink to a 10/5/2.5gbps switch.
    But I just can't see a reason to do two 10G on a switch. Just direct attach your workstation to your NAS on a dual 10g NIC and put a single 10g on your switch.
    Now 4x 10g would be interesting or a 12x or larger 1g switch would make sense.
    But in a home server rack you would just be running a DAC cable from the nas to the switch and then immediately out... I don't get it. I guess there are people who want this since they are selling but I'm really curious what the use case is for just 10g pass through.

  • @idtyu
    @idtyu 3 роки тому

    I bought this one to connect my 1.5gbps internet to a router, which bypasses my isp modem. Unfortunately, it doesn't support vlan port tagging, so it never worked. You need something with router os to do that, just remember that.

    • @NS-jn9ft
      @NS-jn9ft 3 роки тому

      It does. Microtik has new beta release candidate.

  • @DominicFlynn
    @DominicFlynn 2 роки тому

    first question. Does it support VLANs?

  • @HyPex808-2
    @HyPex808-2 3 роки тому +1

    can you use those sfp+ ports for uplinks into another switch or router?

  • @gromitNOR83
    @gromitNOR83 2 роки тому +1

    This now has a brother with PoE: CSS610-8P-2S+IN

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  2 роки тому

      Rohit has had a news piece written for that one for over a week, but no time to publish :-/

  • @carlpatterson8684
    @carlpatterson8684 2 роки тому

    If I had this switch directly off of my router (eero Mesh) and then had 5 more switches plugged into it, would it handle the data from let's say 100 hard-wired connections feeding back to it?

  • @oilwings
    @oilwings 3 роки тому

    If I'm understanding correctly, I can run a fibre line into 1 of the SFP+ ports and bypass an ONT device? Then the 2nd SFP+ slot can feed a router with a SFP+ port like the Asus AX89X router.

  • @ravenvg
    @ravenvg 3 роки тому

    I really like your videos. But why you never turn on the gear and show for example also the management GUI in action? And some blinking lights / Sound of the fans ... Would be really nice over just talking so long.

  • @longtimber1
    @longtimber1 3 роки тому

    Can you add 2 side by side in a 19" rack. The MT 4011 is a few mm too wide

  • @Szydelski
    @Szydelski 3 роки тому

    Hi! Any news about these?
    ccr2004-2g-2xc-2s+
    ccr2004-2g-2xc-2s+/r2
    ccr2004-2g-2xc-2s+/r2-60
    There is a rumor there were in development - having actual router with 2x 10Gb/s ports would be amazing, leaving alone 40Gb/s. Thanks!

  • @guywhoknows
    @guywhoknows 3 роки тому

    Do you always miss backplane performance?
    I would think that the 2*10 to 8*1
    May relate to the backplane performance over the 24*1 switches.
    Looking at some hardware a while ago now, you could end up with a 24 port switch with only a 8 GBS backplane. This is a really important factor with switches as it impacts performance and load as well as the entire infrastructure.
    8/24= .32!
    I think and thought on seeing this that this is a remote placement or "cut in".
    Placing this in a 10gbe to basically add some 1g ports along the way, and carrying on to have maybe one or two stretched out, may be a ideal solution for a lot of deployment. Or with remote, that ability to place this on a battery and charge system allows a easy deployment with a backbone of 10g. The down side is I cannot see any use of more than two of them on the line. But with "economics" I could see three or four being used...

  • @geekbitzone
    @geekbitzone 3 роки тому

    How is everyone finding this switch a month after this video was posted (15th Feb 2021)?
    Has MikroTik sorted out some of the issues that were mentioned in the posts below?