@@deanfowles3707 I am not saying he didn't 'deserve' jail time. However, the story is much more complex than most will ever know. Watkins was massively over exposed to sex at a very young age, sleeping with teachers in his teenage years, lecturers in his later teenage, early adult years. Had an older teenage female fan club when a 12 year old boy of 16/17 year old girls. The second he discovered the most insidious drugs known to man, he was so numbed to sexual experience he became obsessed with pushing sexual boundaries, and testing the 'adoration' of his fans. What he did was horrifically 'wrong' but all of the alleged child sexual offences he was said to have committed outside of what he was convicted of, were proven to be bragging and not 'reality.' His baby rape case was one of only 1.5% on criminal record from the NCA that involved zero physical injury. It was a fantasy of the mothers' adoring him so much he 'got off' on them 'surrendering' their infants to him like a God, more than he ever 'got off' on actually attempting to commit the act. He couldn't go through with it when the time came. I'm not 'excusing' what he did at all. However that he was a baby RAPING monster or serial paedophile is simply not true. Very sinister, but also misunderstood, case
@@patriceaqa288 yeah most evil people had far from ideal beginnings. So what? Once you're an adult and even before then you're responsible for your behavior and if you go around making plans to force yourself on babies and then kiII them you deserve the electric chair as far as I'm concerned. Didn't he also become mates with the yorkshire ripper inside? Yeah absolutely class act.
@@deanfowles3707 He never befriended the yorkshire ripper. Don't know where you heard that, and he never plotted to 'kill a baby.' He easily 'could have' if that was his intent. I'm not excusing his actions, he's just nowhere near as horrifically bad as was portrayed in the media. All justice is relative. He got 35 years for 'pretending' to rape a baby, whilst most 'actual' baby rapists never got more than 18, unless they were repeatedly doing so.
It's fine to call him a peado, but his band mates did absolutely nothing wrong. Great musicians and a real shame that Ian has completely tainted all of their music, forever.
Gary Glitter and Ian Watkins on the same episode. Coincidence! You be the judge!
Hehe funny seeing the before and after Ian watkins comments.
Dean Fowles he's not the monster people make him out to be.
@@patriceaqa288 oh yeah, apart from all the kiddie fiddling he did he was fine.
@@deanfowles3707 I am not saying he didn't 'deserve' jail time. However, the story is much more complex than most will ever know. Watkins was massively over exposed to sex at a very young age, sleeping with teachers in his teenage years, lecturers in his later teenage, early adult years. Had an older teenage female fan club when a 12 year old boy of 16/17 year old girls. The second he discovered the most insidious drugs known to man, he was so numbed to sexual experience he became obsessed with pushing sexual boundaries, and testing the 'adoration' of his fans. What he did was horrifically 'wrong' but all of the alleged child sexual offences he was said to have committed outside of what he was convicted of, were proven to be bragging and not 'reality.' His baby rape case was one of only 1.5% on criminal record from the NCA that involved zero physical injury. It was a fantasy of the mothers' adoring him so much he 'got off' on them 'surrendering' their infants to him like a God, more than he ever 'got off' on actually attempting to commit the act. He couldn't go through with it when the time came. I'm not 'excusing' what he did at all. However that he was a baby RAPING monster or serial paedophile is simply not true. Very sinister, but also misunderstood, case
@@patriceaqa288 yeah most evil people had far from ideal beginnings. So what? Once you're an adult and even before then you're responsible for your behavior and if you go around making plans to force yourself on babies and then kiII them you deserve the electric chair as far as I'm concerned. Didn't he also become mates with the yorkshire ripper inside? Yeah absolutely class act.
@@deanfowles3707 He never befriended the yorkshire ripper. Don't know where you heard that, and he never plotted to 'kill a baby.' He easily 'could have' if that was his intent. I'm not excusing his actions, he's just nowhere near as horrifically bad as was portrayed in the media. All justice is relative. He got 35 years for 'pretending' to rape a baby, whilst most 'actual' baby rapists never got more than 18, unless they were repeatedly doing so.
omg:O ive bin looking 4 ian wwatkins on buzzcocks4 ages and neva found it :) and soo happy i have now thanxs :D
And 8 years on, now how do you feel, Sophie?
@@luqas99 lol
@@luqas99 lol please respond Sophie
does MLolz stand for Mega LOLZ
I’ve got some bad news babe
I love how he knew the song all along and they really thought he wouldn’t
Is that Ian Pedo from The Lost Pedos?
It's fine to call him a peado, but his band mates did absolutely nothing wrong. Great musicians and a real shame that Ian has completely tainted all of their music, forever.
Does anybody know if the entire episode is somewhere? I can't seem to find it :(
Ahah, shit, Ian Watkins. (':
He should go on this again, man.
yeah it's been cancelled
Mark Williams more because Ian Watkins is now in prison for being a paedophile
Brad Malden It's almost as if that was the joke
@@markwilliams7054 So is Ian Watkins lol
Oh my good he just stood there awkwardly smiling the entire time, probably went after kids because he didn’t mentally adjust to adult life. So awkward
Is that Ian Watkins? What the fuck was he doing?
No, it's the Dalai Lama. 🙄 He was trying to perform the beginning of the song without singing any lyrics. It's the concept of that segment.