NISMO vs OEM RB26 Inlet Manifold Test - Motive Garage R32 GT-R Project Supercar Killer
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- In this episode of Motive Garage, presented by Sparesbox, we test a Nismo collector on our R32 Skyline GT-R to see how much of what we have heard is myth, hype or facts. We've been waiting many years to do this test! Enjoy
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There isn’t any other channel that go this in-depth on car builds like motive
Yes there is lol. Speed Academy, Faster Proms, High Performance Academy, Richard Holdener etc.
Probly should of said for RB/Sr20/etc..
@@michaelallen2501 Speedy Academy references Andrew and motive video quite a bit
@@brianscantlebury9656 I don't if I'd say quite a bit. They have 1 RB powered project car lol.
@@michaelallen2501 Speed Academy are noobs
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Plazmaman or rb25 neo intake would be interesting to see the restrictive or torque and power differences ✌️🇦🇺 or even from a single 85mm throttle to the itb’s setup as well
That's the setup I'll be running single 85mm to the itbs. would love a comparison video on this
This has been done in depth by an Australian tuner. Probably circa 2006. I'd have to do my homework to find out who did it. Modified rb25 plenum do very well up to 500 but after that the plasma an is the daddy. From what I remember 😉
Finally, was waiting for this for eternity!) Good to know it does something for the engine. Do you plan to test plazmaman itb one next?
Have to test a GREDDY manifold next, assuming the hypertune aswell, would like to also see a plazmaman, a finally a eBay KO
Greddy actually have two. The old two piece one, and a new one.
Love to see a ebay 1 done . 🤣🤣🤣🤣
THANK YOU! This is amazing! I love how thoroughly you go into the data, that's so important when the internet is so full of people arguing over "my part is better because I said so" information. Love this channel!
Thanks for the support 👍👍
I deffo read that “my part is better” bit in the voice of moog!
@@Gari.Hughes 100% hahaha
Finally someone tests inlet manifolds. For such a commonly modified part, next to no information on gains vs stock. Hence why I’m reluctant to go buy a Hypertune or Plaz because other than the weld porn and good looks and “bigger must be better”, no data exists to support one other than a sales pitch
Motive dvd tech vids are second to none.Thank you guys!
Very good comparison Andy. Your channel deserves more recognition!
The next inlet manifold options to test could be the Greddy and then a Plazamamann/Hypertune?
Love the video! I've had my GTR for 12 years, when i bought it it was basically stock engine and turbos with a haltech platinum pro. When the turbos needed replacement i went for 2x GT2860-5, first on the stock plenum but right after that we went for the Nismo because that was laying on the shelf and was for sale for cheap.. down low we could add around 15% more fuel after installing the Nismo it did feel more lively afterwards. It basically is a driveability upgrade.
Now we are building a 2.8 with a gtx3584rs with hypertune v2 intake on a electronic single throttle body. Ported head,diffrent cams etc. Really excited what that will do!
As for next plenums? I guess it would be cool to test the ITB version of the Hypertune vs stock or vs the nismo, see how they compare!
and perhaps test the itb hypertune vs the single throttle body hypertune to see what diffrence throttle bodys make.
Btw you can fit the Nismo plenum with the engine in the car (r33gtr) if you loosen the engine mounts and intake piping and tilt the block sideways as far as it will go. That way you don't have to remove the brake booster etc. You do need someone to help tilting it though.
keen to see response difference vs plazmaman plenum vs plazmaman tophat of plenum on the stock runners vs stock plenum
this
I remember a manifold test between GReddy and Nismo in a magazine. GReddy won, so that would be my choice.
And the Greddy clones were dirt cheap and everywhere back in the day
Greddy made less on a dyno with Sean Morris
@@GTRJASON77 How long ago was that done by Sean?
@@urbanndiscipline8336 2005 or a little earlier maybe.
@@GTRJASON77 Didn't realise it was the best part of two decades ago - The GTR Tuning Scene has changed so much so since way back then.
These comparisons are the best part of this channel. Need more of this!
Greddy has to be next right ✅️
Awesome to see this on the RB, Be curious to see this compared on the SR and even branching out on to a 2JZ 😉👍
Your hitting outta the park with this stuff.
PS-Anyone looking for fantastic GTR 32 pictures, Motive Video’s are amazing !!
For the price they definitely won’t last long.
Would love to see a plazmaman VS hypertune back to back test, both with single dbw throttles
I think he's going dbw next?
Been looking forward to this video and it was everything I'd hoped for, on dyno and on road. Thank you, this is UA-cam gold!
Been anticipating this one 😬, can’t wait to see results 🤔
Never get tired of that wastegate clatter lovely build and a good result. No point havin loads of grunt if its a pig at slow speeds drivability is everything ....
Very well done Andrew. The Nismo plenum seems to be the perfect choice for those who want a capable street/circuit car, and it's also one I myself have been eyeing for a while. I would recommend giving Greddy's new RB26 plenum or the Plazmaman plenum the next choice.
This channel is a wealth of factual knowledge. Definitely deserves more credit.
Thanks mate 👍
I reckon that Andy's smilesthematics proves this manifold is great
Interested in this new hks advanced heritage project their new manifold looks revolutionary if it does what they say it does but greddy hypertune etc deserve a shot too just to be fair
Also the question is, when are the parts coming out.
Since they only showed prototypes in January.
Excellent video as always with all the science to back up the results. This chanel is sooooo underated.
I'd be VERY interested in all the tests, but selfishly ask for Hypertune with stock ITBs next as that's what's on my shelf to be installed!
I got the Nismo intake mainly for the looks when I had my engine rebuilt. Good to know it does more than just look good
I keep hearing bigger capacity manifolds make a bigger difference on uneven firing engines and also the ones with small displacement. I would love to see if that is the case on GR Yaris or any other 1 liter engine, if that is possible.
Volume depends on your cylinder pressures. Too big a volume and you'll have slow response and too small you end up choking the flow
@@joostin123 Not in this case as the throttles are after the plenum
Andy! Always see you on Facebook, we're in plenty of groups together and love both the UA-cam content and handy stuff you post elsewhere. Just checking in to say you're an awesome dude, you're clearly intelligent and know what you're doing. PS looking better lately mate, diet is doing well for you. Hmu for gym, good food and skids if you're ever in WA. I've got some fun stuff to show you and plenty of mad engineering stuff to nerd out over. See you next video 👌
This is somethin' I've been wonderin' for a long while.
I like testing back to back , it's interesting
Man, this is great data. Thanks for being a real car show.
Thanks man, appreciate this data. Definitely going to buy one.
Absolutely love the GTR part videos, but please Andrew fix your IC7 dash Mount it’s all over the place 😂😂
Best car content on the tube!
Keep it up!
We really appreciate what u do esp that u r paying for most of these products to compare them
Would love to see all the top brands battle it out but throw a cheap knock off one on and see how it performs.....
damn dude you are also looking much better in shape! keep up the great health build aswell💪
Really impressed with the research and back to back testing you are pouring into all the current projects. Great content
A great video showing how parts like these can really change the driveability of an engine. Full throttle really isn't of much use for a road going car yet seeing the torque increase much lower down in the rev range is. Hence why your road test was a bit of a surprise compared to what the rolling road data gave you.
People get so transfixed by power yet power is nothing more than torque multiplied by engine speed and it's the torque that makes an engine driveable or not.
Greddy intake please.
Brilliant... I've been really looking forward to these tests!!
I'd like to see Plazaman, Hypertune, Swedish style (slot type, like on the Group B Audi Quatros) and single vs ITB's. I know it's all down to budget but loving this content 😎👍🏻
Had my Nismo plenum / collector for about 2 years too! I bought the titanium studs from Stefan at IEE in NZ to fit it. You don't need to remove the brake or clutch boosters to do it then! Wish I knew that before I pulled the old plenum out and put it back. 😂 Hoping to get it swapped out next week before mapping. Great, informative video, as always! 👍
Would love to see the comparison from the Nismo item to say, a CPC unit. Great video, love the technicality you guys go into.
Next Greddy intake manifold vs Nismo
Love your vids, these sort of compairsons are always interesting... even if I have a BPU 7MGTE and not a built RB26 ^_^
PS: Are we gonna see the RB block-breaking video soon, I have been looking forward to it after the 2JZ one
Definitely worth testing the Plazmaman ITB manifold to see if the modern style has a marked improvement over the OEM style
Andrew you look great my friend! I hope your healthy and living good!
Great work Andrew, well deserved kudos. ITBs vs Single throttle body welded onto stock manifold then gutting the ITB's out to keep the plenum volume/runner style etc etc the same.
Plazmaman and Hypertune would be some other good products to back to back given their popularity and availability.
Oosh can't wait to see a plasman test and CPC !!!
Looking forward to seeing the comparison to the rest of the intakes! Great series Andrew
I think a plazmaman or any other companies fabricated single throttle body style/conversion would be interesting to see. Do they make more power and torque or is it looks or just the ability to go fly by wire throttle for other benefits like torque management and throttle mapping. It would open up a lot of debate about the pro's and con's between them. Awesome presentation and research on the Nismo inlet plenum.
Been waiting a long time to see this! Good woork!
At over $100 USD per KW, that's a pricey one! Thanks for spending the money!
I'm interested in seeing the change to single throttle body manifolds vs the factory style.
Staying with the multi throttle body style, the 1 vs 2 piece Greddy manifolds would be great to see.
Great vid, I love tests! And glad it worked kinda how I'd always presumed. It's crazy how much nicer to drive a good plenum design makes a car on the road and track, even if it don't look like it really on a dyno.
Easy to make a big power inlet, but they often do the opposite of the above, but a good design that drives optimal is different, hence most serious works race engines don't have big blob inlets like most aftermarket tuner big power inlets.
As usual, it's an ultra interesting video. And the way you speak is perfectly understandable for french people haha
The battle of the top shelf intakes will be interesting. Plazmaman V2 vs CPC.
Makes me feel so good hear that people take a half or full day to install that manifold but I did they all the time within a hour 😌
Finally a win!!!! 😂
Dude you lost heaps of weight
Good Work buddy
Keen to see how the Plazmaman setup goes.
Would love to see the newer style Greddy with ITBs next since I just installed one 😬 always love your vids, keep it up!
I think the camshafts have an impact on this as well. If you have bigger camshafts it would take bigger advantage of the higher air capacity at higher rpm.
Great video Andrew, did you happen to weigh the two intake manifolds? I realize that any difference is going to be negligible, but would be interesting to note.
Ebay intake manifold vs plazmaman/hypertune intake manifold would be interesting to see the results.
Super love it thank you, thank you to all the people that make theses information packed videos for us to enjoy!
Ps could you test the greddy manifold. There's also a China version of it dunno if you have one lying around haha
Very informative clip! I’ve just bought a narpec x hypertune inlet would love to see how that compare or greddy inlet manifold against the almighty nismo …great video Andrew
Thanks for the great video, very useful, planning some upgrades to the airflow on RB26, better downpipe, smoother air filter inlets and smoother turbo inlet from the intake piping, I think I'll also add a Nismo plenum.
Not after more power, just want to make the current turbo setup as good as it can possibly be.
I'd like to see A CPC plenum compared to something on the dyno, and it would be cool to see the difference switching from a Nismo plenum to a similar sized single TB setup.
Nismo VS Greddy would be good to see, essentially quite similar.
Nice test Andrew. I've got mine on my Nismo, but I never did a back to back.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the the issue with the standard intake was the last two cylinders tend to run leaner, which meant that they got too much air compared to the front cylinders. The Nismo plenum with addition of internal bellbouths would allow more even flow doiwn the runners as they would collect it away from the plenum walls where air speed is more consisitent. It's benefits would be improved tuning due to even fuel air ratios across cylinders, which is where the extra 2% more power comes from. I wouldn't think the standard intake plenum as a restriction, as I'm sure intercoolers would be the greatest contributors to pressure drops. Overall very informative, but I would have liked some flow bench testing just to confirm the outcome of the results.
Nice work, pity you don't have a 25 in anything, the e war between stock, GReddy & now Plazmaman rages on haha, with a bit of a mixed bag of results
A welded and billet intake like the Hypertune or Plazmaman manifolds would be a good comparison as a "next step up" after the Nismo item. Also, an ebay cheapie would be good to see just for comparisons sake (if you're brave enough to run it on your car).
The new hks one would be interesting since its so different then the usual, but also something thats cheap like one of the ebay ones.
Informative and interesting - well done!
People get too focused on HP figures, but it's the way a car drives and responds also. Nismo won't sell snake oil, it's all about the small details when tuning a car also. Yes it costs, but if you can feel the difference it's worth it. IMHO. It's also a work of art compared to the stock 1.
Will admit, surprised how much the drivability increased. The numbers Con from CRD had to put in proved it though
Really interesting video, been wondering what differences there are between these two for a while.
I had to replace three small coolant hoses that sit between the firewall and the far end of the inlet plenum on my own R32 GTR which required removing the inlet plenum, did not realise it would take me 10 hours to so lol. Next time I'm just converting to single throttle body, it would be way easier
Amazing video as always,
Would love to see a comparison with the Greddy original cast intake.
I’d love to see a stock 25 manifold vs a Greddy/Freddy vs a plazmaman top hat
Test Hypertune and Plazamann ITB plenums next. Maybe an ITB vs single test too. I always read ITBs are better for daily and response but seeing a real test would be nice
Excellent video, thank you
obviously test the popular plazmaman & hypertune ones, Also throttle body size is a big one, 3 vs 3.5 and 4
would love too see those
Awesome info! I'd like to see the older Greddy itb manifold. But like you said money.
Hypertune vs Plazmaman let's goooooo next!
Love this kind of testing and review! briliiant informative video.
It would be interesting to do an A/B with the nismo and plazmaman.
Awesome stuff Andrew!!
Best episode so far 👌
Greddy 💁♂️
Personally running a Chinese billet manifold (mine hasn't split after years at 1.5bar like some) but would love to see the difference vs plazmaman / hypertune. Think a lot of the 25 boys would want to know difference with the "freddy" manifold vs the stock j pipe.
Robbie War @ RIPS Racing in New Zealand makes a mean intake plenum for RB26
would love to see the whole itb vs single throttle body with the plazmaman and hypertune throw in the ebay spec one too
Man what a video! Wish it was released before my ansys project LOL
Im dying to get my hands on the Skunk 2 intake manifold they are currently developing to replace the plastic oem intake manifold on my 686 hp Honda Civic Type R. I currently have a Radium port injection kit on the stock intake manifold with four Injector Dynamics stainless ID1700’s controlled by a Motec M142. The Skunk 2 aluminum manifold will have velocity stacks to each runner and a fuel rail for port injection. I may replace the small stock dbw throttle body with a larger Spoon throttle body.
Andrew you need to test the brand new Greddy polished V2 plenum and also the plazmaman plenum for std ITBS please
should test the 49mm individual throtle bodys that naprec sale its alot people in japan that clame big gains throughout the whole range of rpm combine the naprec 49mm throtlle body's with nismo intake...
Big thanks for sharing this info...Keep it coming
The intake manifold isn’t as simple as you’re making it out. Runner length is tuned for application, a different exhaust manifold may make the whole engine flow differently, that maybe why you didn’t achieve the same results as nismo. Everything has a cumulative effect.
We know. We said that. But we cant test is on 100 different engine combos. if it works on one, it pretty much works on all. The difference is by how much
@@MotiveVideo no you said the inlet manifold doesn’t know what engine it’s attached to, what turbos are on it etc, dismissing important factors, it’s no as black and white as you’re making out. Some sets ups will have different gains in different areas due to different flow dynamics and harmonics. Not as simple as you’re making out.
Please get a 3d printed cluster for the IC7 the wobbling on the should is killing my OCD haha
Test the Plazaman and Hypertune next, esp comparison of price to performance between the two
I’d like to see either a plazmaman or hypertune itb manifold vs their single throttle manifolds
Hypertune or Plazmaman would be good to see maybe Nota comparison but just individual test compared to stock or the Nizmo.
please test hypertune, plazmaman, HKS or GReddy next
Thank you very much for very interesting information. Appreciate your time and effort...
I'd be interested in seeing how the Chinese alloy ones go up against something like the plasmaman or hypertune etc. Just to put that one to rest as well. There's a lot of people who bag them and a lot of people who back them
Would love to see the greddy tested. This has been a intake manifold that has been used for years and I’d love to see if it’s any better than nismo