No, it has 8 lugs. Used a vert frame which is also boxed in the back. Slightly heavier, but also more rigid. I have a semi faster ratio box at 3 ¼ turns lock to lock, that’s also a little less boosted. Did HD springs, fat sway bars, Bilsteins in the front and KYBs in the rear. I have Firestone Firehawk Indys redlined by Diamond Back Classics.
pt 2 Car feels fine at top end and can also attack either a curvy road or a freeway cloverleaf on-ramp with some degree of aplomb. Max lat is around .77 or .78 so not bad for 50 yr old car. Ride is not harsh and definitely not floaty. It’s just level with virtual zero body roll with the 1 3/8” front bar and 1” rear bar. These are all easy mods and leave the car stock looking. These can be very good handling platforms if slightly modded correctly.
steering twitchiness is also caused by improper toe-in-out, caster setting. how's your steering box play? with engine off move wheel back and forth an inch or two or 3, until the looseness is taken up. I can make a video to demonstrate. I put two reman steering boxes from Lares for two Suburbans, an '84 and '95, both 3/4 ton 4x4, both boxes are loose on center. Have you got a vid of your engine-alternator issue? certain belts grip better than others? I have a survivor '65 GP, loaded with tach, gauges, reverb, pwr ant, per seat, windows, AC, 8 luggers (tell me about the re-lined issue, I hv a bad drum). I hv plenty of videos of mine on my channel
Mine is what they were. No worse. High effort, fast ratio box will be going in this spring. My tracks very well so I sorta hate to mess with it, but I'm going to give it a try.
Scott H if I may enliten you, the lock to lock and steering effort haven't got as much to do with each other as you think. Send me an email corvairwild at gmail.com
I hit a 110 for a moment out on the freeway. This one will truly bury the speedo so it runs pretty well for a near stock engine. Exterior vid that I took at the same time and didn't know that I never had it set for 'public' is also on here.
Thanks for the comment. My first new car was a 62 389-348 Grand Prix 4 speed. This one originally 62 amp alternator. Problem comes from putting a big alternator in it and not enough belt area.
if means anything to ya. i had the same issue with belt squeal on my 64 also. my pulley set up shared one belt for the pws pump and alt. i spaced the pws pump forwards to run individual belts. best thing i ever did.
Great video. The automatic trans sounds like a 3-speed, but wasn't the original automatic transmission a 2-speed? I guess a "vert" frame is a "convertible" frame? Thanks.
I'll be jiggered! I used to own a 1963 Pontiac Grand Prix. Nice car except you had to own an oil well to keep it running. 15 mpg was about the maximum. Power out the ying-yang.
I hated the slim jim automatic transmission that 63 Pontiac's had in them. I had a 63 Catalina and if I could have made one change in that car, I would have gotten the 4 speed manual.
Your car is beautiful.Everything you have done to your car is what I would have done.....performance upgrades that keep it looking stock ,but improve the car. 63-64 were the best looking GPs in my opinion. All 59-70/71 GM B Bodys are the stuff . I almost bought a few GPs but bought an 68 Impala( have some quick vids) . Still lust after GPs though?I'm in SoCal too
The GTO's Daddy I'm not sure that I would try it using the Rotohydramatic. I use a modded 700r from Bowtie Overdrives so I have a .70 to 1 top with a lock up torque converter. It's a great big help for on the road gas mileage. Other than that I have factory cast iron long branches and that's pretty much it.
The GTO's Daddy The 400 shifts better, but with what is normally $4.00 gallon gas I was trying for a little better gas mileage for all of these out of town car show trips I was taking and still taking.
No, it has 8 lugs.
Used a vert frame which is also boxed in the back. Slightly heavier, but also more rigid. I have a semi faster ratio box at 3 ¼ turns lock to lock, that’s also a little less boosted. Did HD springs, fat sway bars, Bilsteins in the front and KYBs in the rear. I have Firestone Firehawk Indys redlined by Diamond Back Classics.
i love these. So underrated! Thoe body, the looks, the interior. Classy and mean.
Plus, it's been a great car since restoration 17 years ago.
and great video, Scott. especially the exhibition speed at the end :)
Thanks. Not like I'd ever run the shit out of this car, but that's what we did back then in Pontiacs so it can't hurt it much now.
It sounds so good, I'd be afraid that if I owned one I'd just jump on the highway and pass everyone just to hear that V8 rev up. Beautiful car.
pt 2
Car feels fine at top end and can also attack either a curvy road or a freeway cloverleaf on-ramp with some degree of aplomb. Max lat is around .77 or .78 so not bad for 50 yr old car. Ride is not harsh and definitely not floaty. It’s just level with virtual zero body roll with the 1 3/8” front bar and 1” rear bar. These are all easy mods and leave the car stock looking. These can be very good handling platforms if slightly modded correctly.
steering twitchiness is also caused by improper toe-in-out, caster setting. how's your steering box play? with engine off move wheel back and forth an inch or two or 3, until the looseness is taken up. I can make a video to demonstrate. I put two reman steering boxes from Lares for two Suburbans, an '84 and '95, both 3/4 ton 4x4, both boxes are loose on center. Have you got a vid of your engine-alternator issue? certain belts grip better than others? I have a survivor '65 GP, loaded with tach, gauges, reverb, pwr ant, per seat, windows, AC, 8 luggers (tell me about the re-lined issue, I hv a bad drum). I hv plenty of videos of mine on my channel
Mine is what they were. No worse. High effort, fast ratio box will be going in this spring. My tracks very well so I sorta hate to mess with it, but I'm going to give it a try.
Scott H if I may enliten you, the lock to lock and steering effort haven't got as much to do with each other as you think. Send me an email corvairwild at gmail.com
While I appreciate your attempt to read my mind, I'm well aware of that, and agree.
I hit a 110 for a moment out on the freeway. This one will truly bury the speedo so it runs pretty well for a near stock engine.
Exterior vid that I took at the same time and didn't know that I never had it set for 'public' is also on here.
Thanks for the comment. My first new car was a 62 389-348 Grand Prix 4 speed.
This one originally 62 amp alternator. Problem comes from putting a big alternator in it and not enough belt area.
What company did you get your larger sway bars from. The original 7/8" ones aren't doing it for me.
Thanks. It's still drives fine 13 years after the restoration. Next year it's time for the fast ratio, fixed ratio steering box.
What a beauty!
Thank you.
I'm jealous....amazing car!
Where is this at? Houston area?
+Johnnie Swisher It's in Soviet Monica. And the I-10
if means anything to ya. i had the same issue with belt squeal on my 64 also. my pulley set up shared one belt for the pws pump and alt. i spaced the pws pump forwards to run individual belts. best thing i ever did.
Great video. The automatic trans sounds like a 3-speed, but wasn't the original automatic transmission a 2-speed? I guess a "vert" frame is a "convertible" frame? Thanks.
I'll be jiggered! I used to own a 1963 Pontiac Grand Prix. Nice car except you had to own an oil well to keep it running. 15 mpg was about the maximum. Power out the ying-yang.
+Dennis Giaruso.. It's about the same as anything else from that era.
Dennis Giaruso my '65 gets at least 15, 18 if I drive 50-55 like grandma. 389 4bbl w 60 k original untestored
Thanks for the ride. I had a 4 speed '62. So.............mine had a generator and no belt squeel. Did the '63 come with an alternator?
I hated the slim jim automatic transmission that 63 Pontiac's had in them. I had a 63 Catalina and if I could have made one change in that car, I would have gotten the 4 speed manual.
I thought about, but didn't end up doing it. I have way way too much money in it, plus its been such a good car.
exelent car
@scotth3886
And I did a little full throttle 0-75 run at the 7:00 mark. Sounds like a Pontiac
It's been so long now that I don't remember.
Your car is beautiful.Everything you have done to your car is what I would have done.....performance upgrades that keep it looking stock ,but improve the car.
63-64 were the best looking GPs in my opinion.
All 59-70/71 GM B Bodys are the stuff .
I almost bought a few GPs but bought an 68 Impala( have some quick vids) . Still lust after GPs though?I'm in SoCal too
Sweeeeeet!!
Thanks
sounds good I have a Fully restored 1962 Catalina 2 door Hard top with the 389 Tri power and a factory four speed.
The GTO's Daddy I'm not sure that I would try it using the Rotohydramatic. I use a modded 700r from Bowtie Overdrives so I have a .70 to 1 top with a lock up torque converter. It's a great big help for on the road gas mileage. Other than that I have factory cast iron long branches and that's pretty much it.
Alright Thanks man Im thinking about getting a turbo 400 with a shift kit is it worth the money you pay?
The GTO's Daddy The 400 shifts better, but with what is normally $4.00 gallon gas I was trying for a little better gas mileage for all of these out of town car show trips I was
taking and still taking.
Scott H Alright buddy thanks again for responding You should check out my videos of my 62 by the way I LOOVVEE your dash. Thanks
Dylan