@@sunshine22723 how is the involuntary manslaughter law in NM any different than where you live? The law has allowed the indictment, verdict is up to the jury. I don't expect an actual answer but maybe you should think about what you are saying. There is a massive amount of stupidity in these comments coming from every side.
Do you folks think when people get shot on screen and die, that it’s real? This is acting and no actor could ever expect that it would be real bullets in that gun. This case is absurd.
Halyna was not an actor, she was not on a screen. She was in an unsafe work environment (so bad that here crew walked out safety reasons) Halyna is dead. Alec pointed a real gun at her, and pulled the trigger.
@@latentsea She was cinematographer with a copy of the shooting script and had rehearsed the setup of the gun pointed at her THREE TIMES just prior to the gun firing. If she felt in ANY danger, she had 3 opportunities to say so. She didn't. Why? Because NOBODY on set EVER expected a live round to be in that gun.
Basic gun safety would have prevented the death and all movie sets are supposed to follow basic gun safety. Baldwin failed this as both a producer and an actor.
Even if that gun was loaded with blanks it was fired at a distance of 2-3 ft, most likely she still would have been injured, therefore he should NEVER have pointed it at her or anyone for that matter
Yea, but it was a party gun on movie sets. Wrong context my friend. He was ordered to draw the gun that way in a hurried manner. Baldwin was trying to cut costs and speed up time as a director and producer.
Based on witnesses who said that he loves playing around with the guns and pointing it at people. Many quit because they feared they would be killed by his shots.
@@doreeneclose6295 Poor scenario... If you are on a road trip and it's your turn to drive, you swap positions and you accidently run over and kill someone. Are you to blame even if you didn't put the keys in the ignition? YES!!!!!!!!
@@doreeneclose6295 depends - were you driving it? Also, if the mechanic you hired who also inspected it before handing you the keys goes to jail it’s only fair you sit down too. After all it was you who was the reckless driver. Don’t steer into people, okay. Maybe go to driving school before you get in the drivers seat. It’s a privilege not a right ☝️ 💡
@@showbread9366 there is an expectation of safety if you’ve hired the safety experts. If you are driving within the law and your breaks go, that is not your fault. Same here. He hired these munition experts on a filming site to make sure the weapons are safe. It was a tragic accident.
I get angry every time I consider this case. I have a long history in the performing arts, and safety ALWAYS is the first priority on stage or sets. There are so many mistakes and instances of negligence on the set of Rust. There are no excuses.
@@jackbryan4676everyone gun safety 101 says that you do not point a gun at anyone or anything that you do not want to destroy, even if you think the gun is not loaded
You are incorrect. A prop is anything held by an actor from eyeglasses to drinks to shoestrings. Once the actor holds an item it’s called a prop. You are welcome to look up the meaning of props in the movie business on the internet.
Anyone over the age of 5 years old knows, or should know, that A: you never look down the barrel of a gun. B You never! Point it at anyone, ever, always assuming that it is loaded. Would this apply to replica during filming? Depends on story line. Baldwin pulling the trigger is not so much a problem, His denial creates one.
@@Eric-ve9pc toy guns are pointed at people and the trigger is pulled, because there are no bullets and everyone knows it. That’s how it works on the big screen too. This is all ridiculous.
That's really interesting how the prosecutor flipped flopped on the offer because she became personally offended at what Baldwin was doing. That's what we seem to have nowadays, justice by EMOTIONAL RAGE.
Very knowledgeable? He has repeatedly refused to take a firearms safety courses. He did NOT follow any the safety rules for handling firearms. Doesn't sound like knowledge to me. Sounds like pride.
@@redeenamckamey9544yes he should be charged. If he followed gun safety she would be alive NEVER POINT A FIREARM AT ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DISTROY even if you think it is unloaded. He pointed the gun at her pulled the trigger
The prosecutor rescinding a plea deal because she found it distasteful that Alec Baldwin was going to make a documentary and file a lawsuit against prosecution is the very definition of vindictive prosecution. That is retalitory conduct for someone exercising their free speech and right to legal recourse.
He is guilty of negligent homicide as the last person to handle a firearm is the person responsible for it. You can't rely on anyone else to tell you a gun is safe until it is checked by you and that is simple gun safety 101. When producers decide to use real firearms, they must be treated as such and be under the same laws and rules. Baldwin isn't guilty of intentional anything, but he is guilty of negligence and lying about the circumstances could mean the difference between incarceration and probation with fines.
He is more guilty as a producer. He knew better. He hired a girl with zero knowledge experience. And he has been in business over 40 years. Knowing that job was important . Girl had no clue of job. Should have never been hired for that position. He hired her to save money
The gun was checked twice before it was handed to the actor. The actors job is to act to and be believable. The two people who checked the gun and announced it was safe (armorer, asst. director) failed. I don’t think Alec Baldwin should be charged in this. I am not a fan of Alec Baldwin never have been but. The investigators were incompetent and they did not even find out why live ammo was on set. Who ever put live ammo on set should be charged.
@@joehadley7710 if you are in possession of a gun, you are responsible for every bullet fired. It is your responsibility to make sure the gun is safe. Someone telling you it is saved is not enough.
@@joehadley7710 Assume ALL guns are loaded! You don’t point a firearm at ANYONE! Safety on set!!! Baldwin failed and needs to be held accountable for creating an unsafe work environment that resulted in death. Period!
Maybe you should look closer at what a cinematographer is, and why cameras are often placed in front of guns, when the goal is that the moviegoers should look straight into the guns. The specific task here was to figure out where to place the cameras and lighting. So - what is the task of a cinematographer?
Every picture of Baldwin, on screen and off, shows him breaking a cardinal rule of gun safety - his finger is on the trigger. He says he didn’t pull the trigger. He did. He just didn’t know it. Edit: almost all actors seem to handle guns like this. They assume the trigger is where their finger belongs, but it does not until ready to fire.
He was specifically directed to draw a bead, pull back the hammer, change his mind and then lower the hammer down safely, which requires you to PRESS the trigger while lowering the gun ONE-HANDED. If the gun slips in your hand, and its heavy, it will go off.
@@kenlieberman4215 Ah, ok. Didn’t know that, but same result. Trigger has to be fully pulled rearward for the hammer to fall and strike the primer. It’s all moot now, though🤦♂️.
@@rodneyalaking8241 Wrong. Hammer doesn't need the a complete pull to strike the primer. That's why the safe method for carry of single action revolvers is to leave the 1st chamber empty. That way the pin is NEVER anywhere close to a live primer. Gutierrez loaded all SIX chambers. That's how the gun fired without pulling the trigger. Anyone who owns a single action revolver knows this.
The Prosecutor had a vendetta or else it would not have turned out the way that it did. Sadly Halyna Hutchins was outside of her Focus or the investigation would have been presteen.
Maybe. But that's not how it works on a typical film set. They would have needed a special altered gun specifically for that purpose and scene. Not gonna happen on a low budget set.
Who brought live ammo on set? That's the one who is at fault here. If he was to drive a car in a scene towards a crowd and was supposed to slam on the brakes but the brakes didn't work - who would you blame? The actor? or the set and person responsible for the equipment?
@@bobfincher1767 I agree - never point a firearm, but regardless, why was there live ammo on a movie set?? Let say that someone who had safety training was handling that gun and it went off after they dropped it accidentally and a stray bullet hit someone, we would still be standing here asking - why is there live ammo on a movie set? The root cause of this incident is live ammo being present in a environment where ppl are unaware of that fact - otherwise the whole set and staff would be very different.
Doesn’t matter who brought the ammo. Baldwins pointing a gun loaded or unloaded at a human was the very last line of safety protocols. He failed to be safe.
Why point the gun towards Helena? And how did the second person get shot? Once the weapon is in the persons hand, they are responsible. Witnesses will testify of Alec's conduct on the day Helena was killed.
Halyna told him to point the gun at her. She's at least partially to blame; even more so than Alec in my opinion, who's only mistake was not double checking the gun.
Alex pointed it at her cuz she found out what Alex does for a side business. It was murder and it was a way to put the blame on someone else cuz he is not supposed to be responsible is he? Someone else pays at least half of the lawyer fees that's cuz of the side business
From the first set of inappropriate charges having to be dropped, to investigators not addressing why live rounds were even on the set at all, to certain people who destroyed evidence and maybe influenced investigators being given immunity, there are too many questionable things about this prosecution. It is my conclusion others put Baldwin, innocently, naively into the circumstances where he found himself holding a gun he did not know was loaded, pointing it at his colleague at her instruction. It is also my personal opinion that others made Hannah their patsy. In the absence of certainty, we tend to speculate, and there certainly is a lot of uncertainty to speculate about in this case.
Lol the FBI guy talking about the set and how the film crew prepared the set first for the actual day of filming… “…they get set up for the actual day of shooting….oh I mean filming, excuse me” What a great pun if it wasn’t such a serious case 😅😂
They obviously didnt practice triple redundancy safety in this particular event. Who the heck brings live rounds to movie set with a bunch of actors. Not much adding up here.
@@sircdrom --- Who would sleep well after accidentally killing someone? I can't even imagine... Wayne Patterson --- How is anyone supposed to have positive knowledge the homicide was or was not accidental without a successful investigation beforehand? Imagine in a hypothetical situation that the defendant planned to commit a first degree murder while pretending to accidentally commit a homicide.
@@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- If the actor is told that it's a stationary prop car but it really has 1000 fully operational horsepower, it's still the actors fault if someone gets hurt.
It wasn't his doing. He didn't load the gun all he was doing was playing a role in a movie. He didn't put a bullet in the gun someone else loaded the gun he was playing a part in a movie like he has a thousand times before.
You know nothing about gun safety if he followed gun safety she would be alive. NEVER POINT A FIREARM AT ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DISTROY even if you think it is unloaded.
@@bobfincher1767 Do you not understand it is the prop master and armorers job to check the gun before handing it to actors? That is the protocol on movie sets! 🤦♀️
The search of the property house and the actions of Seth K. are suspicious. Why the gun was destroyed by the FBI? Another trial with interesting gaps. Armourer should not be in jail and her trial should have followed this trial.
@@redeenamckamey9544 the actor was handed a prop. The Armourer had certified the gun as safe to be used as a prop. Baldwin did not bring the live ammo, he did not even load the gun. Who did? They need to be known and charged. Other people created the fatal circumstances AB and HH innocently ended up in. Personally, I think Hannah's immediate superiors, Seth and Sarah got off far to easily for their involvement in this tragedy
@@a.N..... i think you need to rethink your reply and aim it at yourself if you truly believe hes accountable for what happened then we should go back to 1990s and charge the person for shooting brandon lee
We must ponder the following-- right?: that the person's death was caused by negligence or recklessness....negligence is failure to take proper care in doing something. Did he take proper care in handling a gun that he believed was not loaded with live rounds? What are the guidelines of this place of employment? Could this be more defined as wrongful death?
If Baldwin is guilty, so is the cinema photographer who was killed. If Baldwin had the additional responsibility to ensure the weapon was free of a live charge, so did the cinema photographer in her role.
I think it would have been better if he would have said it was my fault,if he got jail time he would be out and he could have moved on,but what I think doesn’t make any difference.
They were shooting the guns after hours at the site & drinking. Thats why he had live ammo in his gun & his holster. Somebody will bring this up & he should go down for running a clown show instead of a professional operation!
He's not being tried as the producer, he's being tried for his role as actor. There is a difference. The judge is not allowing any evidence regarding his role as producer.
@@karaDee2363 Right, & neither does Baldwin. The fact is you don't want to hear that he might be guilty. Which he is. Will anything happen to him? Doubt it. You happy now?
Plenty of videos shown from the set from the Armorers trial Go back and look at the 15 min of practice scenes when she was shot. Baldwin was arrogantly negligent. He pulled the pistol from inside his vest, with his finger on the trigger AND with the hammer cocked a couple of times! AND swung it in the direction of the director. No surprise it went off.
The idea was to make it look like what a gunfighter would do if he planned to shoot that gun. The next step in that scene was Alec's character shooting a US Marshall.
He should and needs to be found guilty. Being the armourer has been found guilty to supplying the gun, and he pulled the trigger. Guilty regardless... Because it's a film set shouldn't even be relevant.
Australian here , where we dont have people walking around with guns! The thought of a gun in anyones hands is scary. Never turn a gun towards a persons , never think its a game.
In the REAL world we live in, when an individual holds a gun and fires and kills someone, that person holding the gun would be charged - PERIOD! Bladwin has been on TONS of movies, and hearing that there were problems already on the movie set, ALONG with other violations - Alec should not have taken anything for granted, even being one of the producers. Just because you are an actor or actress does not give you a FREE PASS regardless if it was a low-budget movie. Safety should have been the number one rule, and it was not followed even by Alec Bladwin.
WHY ARE REAL GUNS BEING USED IN MOVIES? WHY IS THAT NECESSARY? Can't a prop gun be made that is not deadly or dangerous but just looks real & appears real when firing ( like many toy guns?)
Peeople always say nonchalantley safety before fun. But movies are make believe. Alec put his stock in the armorer. Wrong armorer to confide in. You get what you pay for
There were many cameras on site. I am sure that somewhere there is or was a clip of him firing the weapon,as well of his hand. Close up shots too. I would question were all the footage went. They are focusing on the gun,and whether he pulled the trigger ,when they should ask were all the footage from that day went. It was probably destroyed.
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- That's just your opinion man. Cmon, the prosecution had it in for him. I'm sure you heard, the prosecution admitted to calling him a c sucker, an arrogant p, on and on in texts. They went out of their way to hide evidence from the defense and the judge. It was just a con job.
There's an old saying in Ol' Mexico: "Once the person has drowned in the well it is the covered with dirt" To me this was done on purpose and made to look like an accident. RIP Alyna Hutchins.
He was one of many producers and his role as a producer had nothing to do with hiring the production crew. His responsibilities as a producer was with the script and casting. The production company that Alec was working with is the one that hired the armor based on recommendations of the armorer's father
Would y'all make the same excuses for the proletariat or a plebian work class Joe? If I had three people check a gun for me and then I pulled the trigger and shot someone, who is culpable? Making a movie is NO EXCUSE! Pathetic
Doc ... you remember Kohberger, the terror of Moscow? How about Trevor, the armed with a gun toddler-assaulter/crippler? Nice footage, Sinclair, but we only watch the alternatives now.
Question......if no gun n bullet.....then no murder....now gun with live bullet....but not checked.....trigger pulled by Baldwin....hes responsible....pure arrogant n stupidity....Karma
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Alec will have to ask trump for pardon
Involuntary manslaughter is when you didnt mean too but still pulled the Trigger....
Involves carelessness.
@@oliver0656Are you implying Baldwin was careful in killing the cinematographer?
Bad laws in NM if he's not held accountable
@@sunshine22723 how is the involuntary manslaughter law in NM any different than where you live? The law has allowed the indictment, verdict is up to the jury.
I don't expect an actual answer but maybe you should think about what you are saying. There is a massive amount of stupidity in these comments coming from every side.
He tried to be…he likely figured it would end at the armourer getting arrested.
Do you folks think when people get shot on screen and die, that it’s real? This is acting and no actor could ever expect that it would be real bullets in that gun. This case is absurd.
thank you.
Halyna was not an actor, she was not on a screen. She was in an unsafe work environment (so bad that here crew walked out safety reasons) Halyna is dead. Alec pointed a real gun at her, and pulled the trigger.
@@latentsea She was cinematographer with a copy of the shooting script and had rehearsed the setup of the gun pointed at her THREE TIMES just prior to the gun firing. If she felt in ANY danger, she had 3 opportunities to say so. She didn't. Why? Because NOBODY on set EVER expected a live round to be in that gun.
And two experts checked and said safe one of them in front of Baldwin
Basic gun safety would have prevented the death and all movie sets are supposed to follow basic gun safety. Baldwin failed this as both a producer and an actor.
Even if that gun was loaded with blanks it was fired at a distance of 2-3 ft, most likely she still would have been injured, therefore he should NEVER have pointed it at her or anyone for that matter
Exactly!
And he should’ve double checked to make sure there was nothing in there PERIOD!
Yea, but it was a party gun on movie sets. Wrong context my friend. He was ordered to draw the gun that way
in a hurried manner. Baldwin was trying to cut costs and speed up time as a director and producer.
The WHOLE thing was filmed. They know what he was being told. The gun slipped in his hand and went off. Very common risk.
Based on witnesses who said that he loves playing around with the guns and pointing it at people. Many quit because they feared they would be killed by his shots.
no matter how his lawyers spin it, he pulled a trigger and someone died.
Point blank (literally) period.
If the brakes fail in your new car, that hits and kills someone, should you go to jail for life?
@@doreeneclose6295 Poor scenario...
If you are on a road trip and it's your turn to drive, you swap positions and you accidently run over and kill someone. Are you to blame even if you didn't put the keys in the ignition? YES!!!!!!!!
@@doreeneclose6295 depends - were you driving it? Also, if the mechanic you hired who also inspected it before handing you the keys goes to jail it’s only fair you sit down too. After all it was you who was the reckless driver. Don’t steer into people, okay. Maybe go to driving school before you get in the drivers seat. It’s a privilege not a right ☝️ 💡
@@showbread9366 there is an expectation of safety if you’ve hired the safety experts. If you are driving within the law and your breaks go, that is not your fault. Same here. He hired these munition experts on a filming site to make sure the weapons are safe. It was a tragic accident.
I get angry every time I consider this case. I have a long history in the performing arts, and safety ALWAYS is the first priority on stage or sets. There are so many mistakes and instances of negligence on the set of Rust. There are no excuses.
And who in the case of "Rust" carries the burden of that responsibility in your opinion?
Not Guilty
@@jackbryan4676 Person on set with high enough ranking to do something about it like the producer Baldwin
@@jackbryan4676everyone gun safety 101 says that you do not point a gun at anyone or anything that you do not want to destroy, even if you think the gun is not loaded
@@jackbryan4676for the actual shooting? The one who pointed the gun at a human being - according to New Mexico law and all safety regulations.
Ummmmm….
A million? These are top lawyers in NEW YORK. This is going to cost Baldwin MILLIONS.
That's why they made the reality show. How pathetic.
I’m pretty sure Benjamin Chew with Johnny Depp was in the millions
Baldwin is always on about needing money. I think he still has his First Communion money -= how mean he is
Top “Contract Lawyers” 😜
He could do what Trump does and just not pay them?
Stop calling it a prop gun , prop guns do not fire live rounds.
Thank you 🙌
They like to call some guns assault weapons.
@@jeffchapman1632 😂 don’t give an assault weapon to any “actors who are acting”… sheesh
The word "prop" does not mean fake.
You are incorrect. A prop is anything held by an actor from eyeglasses to drinks to shoestrings. Once the actor holds an item it’s called a prop. You are welcome to look up the meaning of props in the movie business on the internet.
Being an FBI agent used to mean something.
It will mean even less if Trump gets re-elected
No, been corrupt since its inception
@@karaDee2363oh he will be re elected. I endorse that
Someone from the state tried framing Alec
Yup.
in footage I have see Baldwin was doing the direction not responding to direction from others.
Welcome to a film set. Actors improvise.
Anyone over the age of 5 years old knows, or should know, that A: you never look down the barrel of a gun. B You never! Point it at anyone, ever, always assuming that it is loaded.
Would this apply to replica during filming? Depends on story line. Baldwin pulling the trigger is not so much a problem, His denial creates one.
@@Eric-ve9pc toy guns are pointed at people and the trigger is pulled, because there are no bullets and everyone knows it. That’s how it works on the big screen too. This is all ridiculous.
Alec followed the industry norm. If you've ever noticed movies, they point guns at people all of the time.
You've never seen a film where people play Russian Roulette? Or point guns in each other's faces?
@EricLing64 people seem to be confusing real life with Hollywood;))
Have you ever seen a movie with guns? No?
That's really interesting how the prosecutor flipped flopped on the offer because she became personally offended at what Baldwin was doing.
That's what we seem to have nowadays, justice by EMOTIONAL RAGE.
Just nowadays, or by human nature?
Alec said he was very knowledgeable with firearms yet he never checked the gun himself, he should be held liable!
So Arnold was supposed to check his own round son the set of Terminator too right....or else be prosecuted?!?
No he shouldn't be charged with any thing even if he checked the weapon he wouldn't have known if it was real Orr a blank
Very knowledgeable? He has repeatedly refused to take a firearms safety courses. He did NOT follow any the safety rules for handling firearms. Doesn't sound like knowledge to me. Sounds like pride.
@@redeenamckamey9544yes he should be charged. If he followed gun safety she would be alive NEVER POINT A FIREARM AT ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DISTROY even if you think it is unloaded. He pointed the gun at her pulled the trigger
@@NVArt001he has claimed he is very knowledgeable about firearms .
The prosecutor rescinding a plea deal because she found it distasteful that Alec Baldwin was going to make a documentary and file a lawsuit against prosecution is the very definition of vindictive prosecution. That is retalitory conduct for someone exercising their free speech and right to legal recourse.
He is guilty of negligent homicide as the last person to handle a firearm is the person responsible for it. You can't rely on anyone else to tell you a gun is safe until it is checked by you and that is simple gun safety 101. When producers decide to use real firearms, they must be treated as such and be under the same laws and rules. Baldwin isn't guilty of intentional anything, but he is guilty of negligence and lying about the circumstances could mean the difference between incarceration and probation with fines.
He is more guilty as a producer. He knew better. He hired a girl with zero knowledge experience. And he has been in business over 40 years. Knowing that job was important . Girl had no clue of job. Should have never been hired for that position. He hired her to save money
The gun was checked twice before it was handed to the actor. The actors job is to act to and be believable. The two people who checked the gun and announced it was safe (armorer, asst. director) failed. I don’t think Alec Baldwin should be charged in this. I am not a fan of Alec Baldwin never have been but. The investigators were incompetent and they did not even find out why live ammo was on set. Who ever put live ammo on set should be charged.
@@joehadley7710 if you are in possession of a gun, you are responsible for every bullet fired. It is your responsibility to make sure the gun is safe. Someone telling you it is saved is not enough.
@@joehadley7710search actors equity theatrical firearms, your ignorance on what the protocol is doesn’t mean he is guilt free.
@@joehadley7710 Assume ALL guns are loaded! You don’t point a firearm at ANYONE! Safety on set!!! Baldwin failed and needs to be held accountable for creating an unsafe work environment that resulted in death. Period!
I'm beginning to think the prosecution is intentionally obtuse. Everyone is in bed together.
I agree. They are clearly more than a 90 degree angle. Little math joke there.
Alec Baldwin is a strange dude he seems to have no emotions about his bad actions.
We can’t determine Somone Fran of mind I from a video, however I agree
Have you seen his rants and fights on UA-cam? This man has a serious anger problem. Search for alec baldwin anger. He once fought over a parking spot.
What? Should be sit there and cry or what?
You are so wrong
Not Guilty
Other question, whos idea was it to stand directly in front of Alec Baldwin, while he was practicing the quick draw?
Unfortunately that was the cinematographer and director
Maybe you should look closer at what a cinematographer is, and why cameras are often placed in front of guns, when the goal is that the moviegoers should look straight into the guns.
The specific task here was to figure out where to place the cameras and lighting. So - what is the task of a cinematographer?
Every picture of Baldwin, on screen and off, shows him breaking a cardinal rule of gun safety - his finger is on the trigger. He says he didn’t pull the trigger. He did. He just didn’t know it. Edit: almost all actors seem to handle guns like this. They assume the trigger is where their finger belongs, but it does not until ready to fire.
He was specifically directed to draw a bead, pull back the hammer, change his mind and then lower the hammer down safely, which requires you to PRESS the trigger while lowering the gun ONE-HANDED. If the gun slips in your hand, and its heavy, it will go off.
@@kenlieberman4215 Ah, ok. Didn’t know that, but same result. Trigger has to be fully pulled rearward for the hammer to fall and strike the primer. It’s all moot now, though🤦♂️.
@@rodneyalaking8241 Wrong. Hammer doesn't need the a complete pull to strike the primer. That's why the safe method for carry of single action revolvers is to leave the 1st chamber empty. That way the pin is NEVER anywhere close to a live primer. Gutierrez loaded all SIX chambers. That's how the gun fired without pulling the trigger. Anyone who owns a single action revolver knows this.
If you start with the first premise of guns is that you never point a gun - EVER at anyone, then add all the other mistakes
Everyone in front of him had the gun pointed at them at some point because he was directed to do a cross draw.
Nope. It's a movie dope. They have guns. Duh.
It's the armorers job.
The Prosecutor had a vendetta or else it would not have turned out the way that it did. Sadly Halyna Hutchins was outside of her Focus or the investigation would have been presteen.
He did not load the gun but he pointed the gun at someone.
That’s why the armorer was already convicted, he chose not to follow safety protocols as both actor and producer.
As the script required.
his job was to point the gun.
@@shawnbradford2243 then that's a civil issue not criminal murder.
@@jimmyjam5453 murder is civil?
I'd check Hanna's dads reloading press to see if the tool marks from the press matches the live rounds. you know he has reloading presses
Bingo. These cops were so incompetent.
Fees will exceed $3 million easily. She is way low.
It was just a horrible accident. So sad.
Gun respect is-never point one at a person...unless you are a cop...unless you are acting in a film...it's a paradox
That's why they have a prop master😂
This was GROSS negligence by tha armourer, SHE was in charge of the weapons. Live rounds should NEVER have been anywhere near the set. EVER.
It would have been very easy to swap the hammer for one without a firing pin for added safety.
New standards should be applied.
Maybe. But that's not how it works on a typical film set. They would have needed a special altered gun specifically for that purpose and scene. Not gonna happen on a low budget set.
@@JeffreyEpstein-f6y Because they've had two people die in 30 years....? Um, no.
Who brought live ammo on set? That's the one who is at fault here.
If he was to drive a car in a scene towards a crowd and was supposed to slam on the brakes but the brakes didn't work - who would you blame? The actor? or the set and person responsible for the equipment?
If Alex followed gun safety she would be alive. NEVER POINT A FIREARM AT ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DISTROY even if you think it is unloaded.
@@Watts378 I totally agree with you 💯
@@bobfincher1767 I agree - never point a firearm, but regardless, why was there live ammo on a movie set??
Let say that someone who had safety training was handling that gun and it went off after they dropped it accidentally and a stray bullet hit someone, we would still be standing here asking - why is there live ammo on a movie set? The root cause of this incident is live ammo being present in a environment where ppl are unaware of that fact - otherwise the whole set and staff would be very different.
She's already locked up for it
Doesn’t matter who brought the ammo. Baldwins pointing a gun loaded or unloaded at a human was the very last line of safety protocols. He failed to be safe.
Because he's co producing the movie now that's why!!!
Why point the gun towards Helena? And how did the second person get shot?
Once the weapon is in the persons hand, they are responsible. Witnesses will testify of Alec's conduct on the day Helena was killed.
Joel Souza was standing behind Halyna to look at the monitor screen. The bullet shot through her and into his shoulder behind her.
Halyna told him to point the gun at her. She's at least partially to blame; even more so than Alec in my opinion, who's only mistake was not double checking the gun.
@kenlieberman4215. I doubt it!
Baldwin pulled the trigger, the girl died and he's shown no remorse whatsoever. What was the question again?
He showed lots of remorse, just look at the police bodycam and interview
@Psyche721 that was fear of the destruction of his reputation.
A clear set up for sure.
Alex pointed it at her cuz she found out what Alex does for a side business. It was murder and it was a way to put the blame on someone else cuz he is not supposed to be responsible is he? Someone else pays at least half of the lawyer fees that's cuz of the side business
@@John-pd4xt I agree.
This makes me think about Brandon Lee and when he sadly loss his life while filming "The Crow". (firearm)
This was never supposed to happen again after Brandon lost his life. Humans still make mistakes.
That was with a blank, which was also a mistake
Let's see what the jury says.
From the first set of inappropriate charges having to be dropped, to investigators not addressing why live rounds were even on the set at all, to certain people who destroyed evidence and maybe influenced investigators being given immunity, there are too many questionable things about this prosecution. It is my conclusion others put Baldwin, innocently, naively into the circumstances where he found himself holding a gun he did not know was loaded, pointing it at his colleague at her instruction. It is also my personal opinion that others made Hannah their patsy. In the absence of certainty, we tend to speculate, and there certainly is a lot of uncertainty to speculate about in this case.
Well said
LIVE ROUNDS HAVE NO PLACE ON MOVIE SET
So where did the live ammo come from?
exactly
@@nosuchthing8 ARMORER OR SOMEONE AFILIATED WITH GUN OWNER
@@markorr1874 seth is the villian in all this
Thanks for keeping us up to date! I bet it's Hot down there!
My advice to Baldwin…..No more Clint Eastwood style movies because you’ve got no business with a firearm on any set at anytime….word.
Where is any of the video or audio from the set I'm sure one of those cameras was running and recording?
He pointed the gun at her because he’s an actor and that was how the scene was written! 🤦♀️
If the scene was about Baldwin holding the gun to his head and pulling the trigger should he trust everybody and do it? I think not.
The weren't shooting a scene
@@sh0t0kanThey were blocking in the scene to be shot.
Why did this go from movie to murder
Negligence by the amorer and the person operating the firearm.
@@Cestdelamerdethat’s literally what happened and what hannah gutierrez reed was convicted of
Would Baldwin have safety checked the gun, or demanded it checked in front of him, if he was the actor in a Russian Roulette Scene?
Possibly not. Actors point guns at each other all of the time on set.
@@JeffreyEpstein-f6y no they don't.
@@capngeo2002 Of course they do. You don't really believe that most Hollywood actors know how to handle firearms... Think about it.
@@JeffreyEpstein-f6y I have thought about it.
Boy, a lot of these heated responses sound like what "law enforcement " must have been telling themselves while they concealed evidence
Lol the FBI guy talking about the set and how the film crew prepared the set first for the actual day of filming…
“…they get set up for the actual day of shooting….oh I mean filming, excuse me”
What a great pun if it wasn’t such a serious case 😅😂
They obviously didnt practice triple redundancy safety in this particular event. Who the heck brings live rounds to movie set with a bunch of actors. Not much adding up here.
as producer he would be responsible in a civil case but not a criminal case.
Just blame Alec for everything because he made fun of Trump.
EYE LIDS SAY HE'S NOT SLEEPING WELL.
Would you?
I would not sleep well either, would you!?
Who would sleep well after accidentally killing someone? I can't even imagine...
Guilt
@@sircdrom --- Who would sleep well after accidentally killing someone? I can't even imagine...
Wayne Patterson --- How is anyone supposed to have positive knowledge the homicide was or was not accidental without a successful investigation beforehand? Imagine in a hypothetical situation that the defendant planned to commit a first degree murder while pretending to accidentally commit a homicide.
Evry1 tells always guns dont kill . " people do'. True?
True. The same with swords and cars. Having an expert on hand is helpful, and they share responsibility, but the operator is the most responsible.
@@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- If the actor is told that it's a stationary prop car but it really has 1000 fully operational horsepower, it's still the actors fault if someone gets hurt.
10:50 A live round wouldn't have to necessarily be in the cylinder itself;
if a projectile was in the barrel ahead of time, any blank would send it.
The investigators beat the crap out of that pistol trying to get it to fire by itself and couldn't make it happen.
They destroyed evidence by doing that.
It wasn't his doing. He didn't load the gun all he was doing was playing a role in a movie. He didn't put a bullet in the gun someone else loaded the gun he was playing a part in a movie like he has a thousand times before.
You know nothing about gun safety if he followed gun safety she would be alive. NEVER POINT A FIREARM AT ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DISTROY even if you think it is unloaded.
I agree 💯💯💯💯
Should not have pointed the gun at anyone or anything.
@@redeenamckamey9544 I would never hand you a gun!
@@bobfincher1767 Do you not understand it is the prop master and armorers job to check the gun before handing it to actors? That is the protocol on movie sets! 🤦♀️
This was an accident.
negligence is a crime
If Alex followed gun safety she would be alive. NEVER POINT A FIREARM AT ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DISTROY even if you think it is unloaded.
@@jennifersuzuki that shoulda coulda been prevented with common sense!
this was a chain of negligence ending in baldwins hand.
Accident falls under manslaughter.
The search of the property house and the actions of Seth K. are suspicious. Why the gun was destroyed by the FBI? Another trial with interesting gaps. Armourer should not be in jail and her trial should have followed this trial.
Update please?????
He shouldn't be charged with anything
you should let the people with brains do the thinking pal.
@@redeenamckamey9544 the actor was handed a prop. The Armourer had certified the gun as safe to be used as a prop. Baldwin did not bring the live ammo, he did not even load the gun. Who did? They need to be known and charged. Other people created the fatal circumstances AB and HH innocently ended up in.
Personally, I think Hannah's immediate superiors, Seth and Sarah got off far to easily for their involvement in this tragedy
@@bevmacdonald9008Right. Some of the more culpable took very lenient pleas. Halls, the first AD and Sarah Zachary the prop master
@@a.N..... i think you need to rethink your reply and aim it at yourself if you truly believe hes accountable for what happened then we should go back to 1990s and charge the person for shooting brandon lee
I agree 💯
We must ponder the following-- right?: that the person's death was caused by negligence or recklessness....negligence is failure to take proper care in doing something.
Did he take proper care in handling a gun that he believed was not loaded with live rounds? What are the guidelines of this place of employment? Could this be more defined as wrongful death?
SAG rules are posted on the internet and so are the laws of New Mexico.
Thats the sixty four thousand dollar question isn't it ?
I would do the 18 months instead of dishing out a million $ to lawyers.
Says a guy who doesn't make millions of dollars a year.
You showed a picture of the victim when mentioning Hannah.
If Baldwin is guilty, so is the cinema photographer who was killed. If Baldwin had the additional responsibility to ensure the weapon was free of a live charge, so did the cinema photographer in her role.
Alex is a nasty person and I hope for her family he gets prison time
He was yelling at the victim just 45 minutes before this happened. He is nasty indeed.
I think it would have been better if he would have said it was my fault,if he got jail time he would be out and he could have moved on,but what I think doesn’t make any difference.
They were shooting the guns after hours at the site & drinking. Thats why he had live ammo in his gun & his holster.
Somebody will bring this up & he should go down for running a clown show instead of a professional operation!
He's not being tried as the producer, he's being tried for his role as actor. There is a difference. The judge is not allowing any evidence regarding his role as producer.
Interesting that you're making up your own story, which in reality did not happen. And you do not have a clue about the production of a movie
@@karaDee2363 Right, & neither does Baldwin. The fact is you don't want to hear that he might be guilty. Which he is.
Will anything happen to him? Doubt it. You happy now?
The story about plinking is nothing but internet gossip not fit for a court of law.
Plenty of videos shown from the set from the Armorers trial
Go back and look at the 15 min of practice scenes when she was shot. Baldwin was arrogantly negligent.
He pulled the pistol from inside his vest, with his finger on the trigger AND with the hammer cocked a couple of times!
AND swung it in the direction of the director. No surprise it went off.
I'm pretty sure that it was indeed very surprising.
The idea was to make it look like what a gunfighter would do if he planned to shoot that gun. The next step in that scene was Alec's character shooting a US Marshall.
I wonder what the victim knew.
He pointed the gun and fired the gun because he thinks Standard Gun Rules don't apply to him.
He followed the industry standard. You want higher standards, and I expect there to be changes.
@@JeffreyEpstein-f6yAnd then expect the Western to become a dead genre. Because those old time gunslingers didn't practice gun safety rules.
The film wasn't called Trust, for a reason.
Guns are not to be pointed at people always off center he should know that
He should and needs to be found guilty.
Being the armourer has been found guilty to supplying the gun, and he pulled the trigger.
Guilty regardless...
Because it's a film set shouldn't even be relevant.
Australian here , where we dont have people walking around with guns! The thought of a gun in anyones hands is scary. Never turn a gun towards a persons , never think its a game.
In the REAL world we live in, when an individual holds a gun and fires and kills someone, that person holding the gun would be charged - PERIOD!
Bladwin has been on TONS of movies, and hearing that there were problems already on the movie set, ALONG with other violations - Alec should not have taken anything for granted, even being one of the producers. Just because you are an actor or actress does not give you a FREE PASS regardless if it was a low-budget movie. Safety should have been the number one rule, and it was not followed even by Alec Bladwin.
Not Guilty
The amount of overexplaining here is staggering me
This whole video fraudulently promises to answer the question in its title but never does, should we take the words with a pinch of salt in general ?
Yes, but always.
Steven is there for the free lunch.
There’s no shame in his game
I can't stop looking at Stephen. He was the real star of tis show.
Baldwin pulled the trigger
Nope.
Kids on that set fired live ammunition with bladwin.
Is Alec aware that Saul is licensed in NM?
Shouldda called him. Except that by this time Saul is in prison advising his fellow prisoners for free.
A: Because she owed him 50 bucks from poker night and the hood don’t forget.
WHY ARE REAL GUNS BEING USED IN MOVIES? WHY IS THAT NECESSARY? Can't a prop gun be made that is not deadly or dangerous but just looks real & appears real when firing ( like many toy guns?)
Thinking isnt reality.
Peeople always say nonchalantley safety before fun. But movies are make believe. Alec put his
stock in the armorer. Wrong armorer to confide in. You get what you pay for
There were many cameras on site. I am sure that somewhere there is or was a clip of him firing the weapon,as well of his hand. Close up shots too. I would question were all the footage went. They are focusing on the gun,and whether he pulled the trigger ,when they should ask were all the footage from that day went. It was probably destroyed.
He took advice from Hillary
I read the title as "This is why Baldwin was negligent."
Nope. It's over.
@@nosuchthing8 Due to a technicality. He was still negligent.
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- gladly your opinion does not count. And no he'd wasn't negligent. That's what the armorer was for.
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- That's just your opinion man.
Cmon, the prosecution had it in for him. I'm sure you heard, the prosecution admitted to calling him a c sucker, an arrogant p, on and on in texts. They went out of their way to hide evidence from the defense and the judge.
It was just a con job.
Even if it was a positional run through he never had to actually pull the trigger, the FBI agent is guessing and not an expert in cinematography
There's an old saying in Ol' Mexico: "Once the person has drowned in the well it is the covered with dirt" To me this was done on purpose and made to look like an accident. RIP Alyna Hutchins.
A anty gun man shooting guns as wild party ????
ANSWER: BALDWIN WAS IN A MOVIE FACTORY DOING HIS JOB.
Chacon did it.
Did you notice that FBI Chacon says "shoot it" at minute 3:26 ! Then corrects himself.
I bet he gets off !!
He's the Producer, he hired the Armor, he hired the Cinematographer, and he is the Actor that pulled the trigger! Looks guilty to me.
He was one of many producers and his role as a producer had nothing to do with hiring the production crew. His responsibilities as a producer was with the script and casting. The production company that Alec was working with is the one that hired the armor based on recommendations of the armorer's father
You just hate him for making fun of Trump. How fragile and petty.
@@JeffreyEpstein-f6y If that was even true, that doesn't change any of the facts that were stated, weirdo.
Why that real gun and bullet on the set
Would y'all make the same excuses for the proletariat or a plebian work class Joe? If I had three people check a gun for me and then I pulled the trigger and shot someone, who is culpable? Making a movie is NO EXCUSE! Pathetic
Doc ... you remember Kohberger, the terror of Moscow? How about Trevor, the armed with a gun toddler-assaulter/crippler? Nice footage, Sinclair, but we only watch the alternatives now.
Does he even blink, just like Boughtbytheyen at the "Debate"?
Question......if no gun n bullet.....then no murder....now gun with live bullet....but not checked.....trigger pulled by Baldwin....hes responsible....pure arrogant n stupidity....Karma
Answer: This is not how to use English grammar.
The gun was checked, twice
@12:30
What ever stopped him from ever checking the rounds chambered to see if there live there color coded duh
I worked on the crow after lees death-