Mica Miller's voicemail to John Paul Miller's ex-wife

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  • @brittanyjones20
    @brittanyjones20 2 місяці тому +105

    This just does not sound like someone who wants to unalive themselves! It sounds like someone who just wanted peace IN THIS LIFE! & do the right thing by God.

    • @KasThinks
      @KasThinks 2 місяці тому +7

      Your comment made me realize unaliving oneself is considered sin in almost any church! Which would make it even less probable for Mica since she held her Faith very close to heart, right?

    • @trickortrump3292
      @trickortrump3292 2 місяці тому +1

      @@KasThinksShe talked on video about trying to kill herself before but the gun jammed. Nobody can say she would never do that since it goes against her faith, when she clearly had done it before.

    • @Twizington
      @Twizington 2 місяці тому +1

      @@trickortrump3292 can you cite that video? I haven’t seen it

    • @Twizington
      @Twizington 2 місяці тому +2

      Psychology 101, you don’t know what a person sounds like who wants to unalive themselves. Your ignorance is showing.

    • @trickortrump3292
      @trickortrump3292 2 місяці тому

      @@Twizington Ugh. Did the link not post? I thought it did.

  • @cam1259
    @cam1259 2 місяці тому +113

    JP is a true psychopath and monster! These women were pure gold!

    • @kate4biglittlevoices
      @kate4biglittlevoices 2 місяці тому +8

      Narcs tend to get people they can get to do things- and often that will be a kind hearted person

    • @DM_21
      @DM_21 Місяць тому

      I agree. The Noor Jasmine channel presents an excellent video reviewing the Mica Miller story. I thought that you might want to watch it.

  • @letuswalkinthelightofthelo5350
    @letuswalkinthelightofthelo5350 2 місяці тому +91

    Poor sweet girl. She was crying her eyes out…

    • @goodmeasure777
      @goodmeasure777 2 місяці тому +7

      What I don't understand, is these content creators inviting him to come on their channels, to speak, despite all these findings coming to light. I'm pretty sure her family isn't interested. There is such a thing as thirsty creators though. Smh.

    • @letuswalkinthelightofthelo5350
      @letuswalkinthelightofthelo5350 2 місяці тому +1

      I agree!! They play both sides. That tells me they don’t care. Just are thirsty for drama (views$$$).

    • @debbytidwell9870
      @debbytidwell9870 Місяць тому

      The more he talks, the more he tells.

  • @charlieestes2592
    @charlieestes2592 2 місяці тому +71

    That voicemail pretty well says it all

  • @shesawildflower1910
    @shesawildflower1910 2 місяці тому +98

    This breaks my heart......hearing Mica break and God bless Allison for treating Mica with respect and not being calloused toward her for the past between them. The past that JP caused!! Ali was wise enough to know that Mica was groomed by JP. It's so sad that this one crazy, evil man took these two women through the hell he did!!

    • @MsDropofrain
      @MsDropofrain 2 місяці тому +26

      Allison is a better woman than I thought. Huge respect

  • @KarenLeeTLS
    @KarenLeeTLS 2 місяці тому +89

    Mica sounds so sad. Heartbreaking 💔😢

  • @Justice4Mica
    @Justice4Mica 2 місяці тому +76

    How heartbreaking that JP took these women for granted.

    • @edove5630
      @edove5630 2 місяці тому +3

      exactly, i totally agree with this comment.

    • @Huckfintress
      @Huckfintress 2 місяці тому +7

      He is diabolical

    • @tinyvr7036
      @tinyvr7036 2 місяці тому +3

      Look how he disregarded his own parishioners' feelings by telling them of her death.
      Don't talk about it, pay up , and just leave. ...
      Tells you he takes everyone and everything for granted, huh?

    • @unprocessed_life
      @unprocessed_life 2 місяці тому +5

      he sure had a fucked up family and it's devastating he followed suit of being a sociopath. I REALLY want to know his fully story, aired while he's sitting in prison.

  • @pbj7890
    @pbj7890 2 місяці тому +44

    The damage that true toxic abusive narcissist inflict on others is horrific. He is exposed, at his most dangerous.

  • @sueann1985
    @sueann1985 2 місяці тому +44

    This is the real mica how she would sound if she had really called the 911 to say she was goung to unalive herself.
    That one was too fake.

    • @maristella287
      @maristella287 2 місяці тому +2

      Good Point!!

    • @sarahmoeller7578
      @sarahmoeller7578 2 місяці тому +2

      Exactly what I was thinking! Unless she was trying to give them a hint and wanted them to come find her alive.

    • @TraciRapin
      @TraciRapin 2 місяці тому +1

      I was thinking the exact same thing!!

    • @brendatomlinson
      @brendatomlinson 2 місяці тому +2

      AI possibly

  • @jgdwick4067
    @jgdwick4067 2 місяці тому +55

    She didn’t kill herself!!

    • @Laura-ef1mb
      @Laura-ef1mb 2 місяці тому +3

      Do you think he was there making her do it,could be possible I think.

  • @maryri
    @maryri 2 місяці тому +40

    He has extreme anger and disrespectful likely learned behavior from his father

  • @alllifematters
    @alllifematters 2 місяці тому +40

    Awww 😞💜 its really beautiful that the women were helping one another

  • @Me-hf4ii
    @Me-hf4ii 2 місяці тому +32

    This is heartbreaking. She was trying so hard.
    And it sounds nothing like her 911 call.
    How could she have been so calm in that crystal clear 911 call in the middle of the slough that no one else could get reception in… but then sobbing moments later for the fisherman to hear?

  • @SunnyBunny132
    @SunnyBunny132 2 місяці тому +21

    Mica's ex-husband's father never saw any issues with Mica's mental health. Dealing with JP every day would make the most sane person in the world lose it! From what I have seen, JP appears to be a milignant narcissist. Everything is about HIM. He loves being the center of attention and his way is the only way. He will never see another point of view, and will gaslight, manipulate, lie, and do whatever it takes to get his way. Allison has reason to be concerned for her children, and I hope she also takes the necessary steps to keep herself safe.

    • @lizh1988
      @lizh1988 2 місяці тому +5

      Exactly, he seems completely incapable of doing the right thing in a marriage or in the pulpit.

    • @Wft-bu5zc
      @Wft-bu5zc 2 місяці тому

      My ex wasn't a narcissist but he was mentally unwell and over time I lost ALL patience and sanity. He would explode in anger all the time at the most random times (temper tantrums). One day I was done. You can't make it your job to fix someone else's mental health, ever. It's their job. And some people are NOT sane enough to be in a relationship. JP isn't only mentally unwell, he's also a TERRIBLE person.

  • @JcCollins-fj5fs
    @JcCollins-fj5fs 2 місяці тому +15

    JP slipped up when he spoke at the end of his driveway. He said, " I want justice for Mica too" - IF he thought she took her own life, why does he want justice????? Hmmm...

    • @soulsister2022
      @soulsister2022 2 місяці тому +1

      I think that man is referring to her mental health struggle that people seem to be denying? I could be mistaken tho.

    • @lilac6940
      @lilac6940 2 місяці тому

      Oh wow, that is a great catch. Wow, wow, wow. I hope LE and lawyers, etc. keep his slip-up on file for good use later.

    • @Luke91633
      @Luke91633 Місяць тому

      He said said that in order to deflect attention off of him and to gain sympathy . It’s a selfish statement as with all narcissist demonic behavior . I have been really thinking that that can truly never repent unless acknowledgment of any wrong doing leads to deliverance

  • @MarthaMeriwether
    @MarthaMeriwether 2 місяці тому +25

    What holiness in the midst of arduous suffering.

  • @Petro-wp8xt
    @Petro-wp8xt 2 місяці тому +21

    #justiceforAlison🙏
    #justiceformica🙏

  • @ronnirenee182
    @ronnirenee182 2 місяці тому +10

    They both seem like beautiful people. Its awful that they got messed up with him. And I have so much respect for Allison for trying to help her despite the past

  • @phylisschavis4489
    @phylisschavis4489 2 місяці тому +25

    Wow so sad !

  • @teegees
    @teegees 2 місяці тому +4

    I think JP wins the award for scumbag of the decade. They need to lock him up before he harms anyone else.

  • @AmandaWait
    @AmandaWait 2 місяці тому +11

    And his first wife is lovely too. To pray for Mica and trust her with their children. That hireling/wolf of a husband will stand before the One with eyes like fire one day. The prideful/lofty will be brought low and the Lord alone will be exalted!
    _¹¹ The lofty looks of man shall be humbled,_
    _The haughtiness of men shall be bowed down,_
    _And the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day._
    _¹⁷ The loftiness of man shall be bowed down,_
    _And the haughtiness of men shall be brought low;_
    _The Lord alone will be exalted in that day,_
    _Isaiah 2:11, 17_

  • @bellastone-le9eb
    @bellastone-le9eb 5 днів тому +2

    He's a vile con artist. Justice will be served and his sin will be exposed.

  • @pebs65
    @pebs65 2 місяці тому +5

    Thank you, Jen and FitsNews for continuing to cover this story and the stories of victims throughout SC!

  • @anye76
    @anye76 2 місяці тому +7

    I'm convinced now more than ever that Mica did not voluntarily remove herself from this world. Someone was there with her. That voicemail says everything, absolutely everything in just a matter of seconds😔

    • @lilac6940
      @lilac6940 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, and like other commenters have suggested here, this voicemail is an accurate representation of the pace and intonations of her voice when she is emotional. The 911 call, as Mica's dad insists, "sounds like her voice but doesn't sound like her." Completely different pacing, phrasing, etc. I think this voicemail is priceless evidence.

    • @coochi3516
      @coochi3516 Місяць тому

      @@lilac6940 you guys are not considering factors.

  • @TheMentalLevelUpPodcast
    @TheMentalLevelUpPodcast 2 місяці тому +9

    This is sad and yet, women who KNOW some of the horrific details of that Miller marriage are already lined up to be his next vic...his next wife.

    • @robinhoward4204
      @robinhoward4204 2 місяці тому +4

      Sadly that seems to happen often - some people are in denial or just not very moral themselves. Just sayin'.

    • @TheMentalLevelUpPodcast
      @TheMentalLevelUpPodcast 2 місяці тому +3

      @@robinhoward4204 You know, for some reason I keep forgetting about that aspect - that some people will bypass their own safety just to unite with someone on their poor moral level. Good point.

    • @debbytidwell9870
      @debbytidwell9870 Місяць тому

      Or scared

  • @DinFL
    @DinFL 2 місяці тому +5

    This is one loss that I’ll never forget. So tragic. RIP beautiful, beautiful Mica. 🙏

  • @simaturna9765
    @simaturna9765 2 місяці тому +9

    This is the most heartbreaking voice mail i have ever listelened to I have no words to describe my feelings for what happened to her😭😭😭

    • @AmandaWait
      @AmandaWait 2 місяці тому

      Absolutely heartbreaking. She wanted to get her soul right and be free and at peace.😢

  • @roxiesorrells4552
    @roxiesorrells4552 2 місяці тому +8

    God bless her!

  • @mimiseeyou
    @mimiseeyou 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for getting straight to the title without all the filler

  • @tsanchez6518
    @tsanchez6518 2 місяці тому +7

    Praying for the families, and that JP gets the help he needs.

  • @annarichards6056
    @annarichards6056 2 місяці тому +16

    😭😭😭

  • @dennybarton3256
    @dennybarton3256 Місяць тому +1

    I was thinking voice cloning could be a possibility when the 911 call was made ,

  • @Homebound233
    @Homebound233 2 місяці тому +3

    Been there.😢😢😢

  • @thetruthchannel349
    @thetruthchannel349 Місяць тому +1

    More emotion in this vm than her alleged 911 call.

  • @katiekane5247
    @katiekane5247 2 місяці тому +17

    Prayers don't help against an ungodly man. She tried SO hard to do everything right to get loose. Rest easy Mica, you deserved better ❤️

    • @brettcantrell8650
      @brettcantrell8650 2 місяці тому +4

      WELL THEY ARE HELPING NOW...........THIS WILL BE GOD'S JUSTICE FOR ALLISON AND HER CHILDREN AND ALSO FOR MICA.... IF THE COPS WAKE UP AND DO THEIR JOBS...........THE GUY AND HIS FATHER ARE STILL NOT ARRESTED.

    • @AmandaWait
      @AmandaWait 2 місяці тому +4

      We are to pray fervently and even for our enemies!

    • @lizh1988
      @lizh1988 2 місяці тому +1

      There are some people it is pointless to pray for.

    • @lilac6940
      @lilac6940 2 місяці тому

      @@lizh1988 Show me the verse in the Bible. My Bible tells me to pray for my enemies. My Bible shows me that murderers like Moses, Saul/Paul and others can be completely transformed by the power of God Almighty. My Bible tells me to pray about anything and everything, without ceasing, at all times. Even Jesus prayed for people, and is quoted doing so many times in the Gospels. Never, never, never give up.

    • @lilac6940
      @lilac6940 2 місяці тому

      Show me the verse in the Bible. My Bible tells me to pray for my enemies. My Bible shows me that murderers like Moses, Saul/Paul and others can be completely transformed by the power of God Almighty. My Bible tells me to pray about anything and everything, without ceasing, at all times. Even Jesus prayed for people, and is quoted doing so many times in the Gospels. Never, never, never give up.

  • @justicejane2429
    @justicejane2429 2 місяці тому +1

    Rest in Sweet Peace Mica 🎤 she sang like an angel

  • @katiemallak8419
    @katiemallak8419 2 місяці тому +1

    This is exactly why I think she was coerced to make that 911 call before she "committted suicide". I think it would be safe to assume that someone about to commit suicide is going to sound more like this, than how she sounded in the 911 call.

  • @shawnhunter228
    @shawnhunter228 Місяць тому

    It breaks my heart to hear her desperation.I suffered narcissistic abuse for 26 years.Not until he began discussing his plans after my death, did I realize he meant to burry me.I did make it out,and he continued gas lighting me for ten years.I am zero contact for ever.Narcissist lack self awareness so it’s a given they will cross that line.Under all that fake bravado is a tortured soul trapped inside trauma.

  • @tarasgarden
    @tarasgarden 2 місяці тому +1

    What a sweet soul she was. 😢❤️

  • @suzannemartin6817
    @suzannemartin6817 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow… I remember being really concerned about me and my heart condition when my husband left and was doing and saying crazy things. I wish I had known them what I know now, that I can guard my heart and have an electrified boundary against what he was saying to me and doing to me and harassing me about. I wish I’d known I could and should have a very hard NO and still avoid bitterness and unforgiveness. And I wish I had let my attorney go “scorched earth” on him instead of letting him get away with things. So sad. 😢.

  • @heavenleeangeltalk8471
    @heavenleeangeltalk8471 2 місяці тому +2

    Poor Mica😢 RIP beautiful angel 😢

  • @mimiseeyou
    @mimiseeyou 2 місяці тому +7

    I have a good relationship with my husband’s ex-wife. Not all are enemies. They were a team for the kids above all else, and these women were gold.

    • @mimiseeyou
      @mimiseeyou 2 місяці тому +1

      @@st6576 I’m aware, which makes Alison an EVEN BETTER person because she was still cordial with Mica for the children. Alison filed for emergency custody based on what Mica confided to her. They were allies.

  • @iffyangel3380
    @iffyangel3380 2 місяці тому +11

    😢😢😢

  • @anthonycpotts
    @anthonycpotts 2 місяці тому +1

    Solid Rock is doing the same thing in every town I have checked so far. They are bullying addicts with help from authorities. Everyone who has been put in trusted positions is targeting addicts and bullying them, or worse, until the addicts lose hope.

    • @brendatomlinson
      @brendatomlinson 2 місяці тому

      Is Solid Rock like a…church franchise??

  • @Xcuvon
    @Xcuvon 2 місяці тому +3

    To the family, why’d y’all agree to cremate her? Legally, HE HAD NO SAY SO!

    • @katiemallak8419
      @katiemallak8419 2 місяці тому

      Good question! Makes no sense if everyone thinks it is suspicious. If anyone follows true crime, case out in Idaho was first ruled natural causes, but they exhumed the body and ruled it homicide and the guy is now sentenced to death.

    • @hope4all366
      @hope4all366 2 місяці тому

      It doesn't sound like the family had a choice. She was still legally married to him.

    • @lilac6940
      @lilac6940 2 місяці тому

      Your comment is exactly opposite of what everyone else is saying. I've been hearing all along that the soon-to-be ex who cheated on Mica and threatened her and was stalking her so bad that she'd gotten a protective order against him and was divorcing him, somehow was legally the one person who had the "say so" to have her quickly cremated, and Mica's own family had no "say so" in the matter.

    • @brendatomlinson
      @brendatomlinson 2 місяці тому +3

      Legally, as her husband, he DID have the right to make that decision, despite how despicable he is. Had they been divorced her family would’ve had decision-making rights.

    • @debbytidwell9870
      @debbytidwell9870 Місяць тому

      I don’t think the protective order was final.

  • @unapologeticallyauthentic
    @unapologeticallyauthentic 2 місяці тому +4

    Poor poor Mica

  • @Susiehighschool
    @Susiehighschool Місяць тому

    Narcissistic abuse deserves PRISON time imo. Especially bc of the prison it causes us women to be confined in during & after. This poor angel. They always get the best ones 😔

  • @Suerountree55
    @Suerountree55 2 місяці тому +1

    I truly believe he either killed her or had it done !! I don't believe she done it herself.RIP Mica #justiceformica.

  • @charlottewise1791
    @charlottewise1791 2 місяці тому +3

    Allison n Micah shared the same abuse, so understood each other, and Thank God for Allison who was understanding and helpful because SHE EXPERIENCED the same kind of abuse fromJP. At first I'm sure he was CHARMING, AND LAVISHED THEM WITH KINDNESS AND GIFTS ETC. THEN ONCE HE GOT THEN HOOKED HE WAS MANIPULATIVE, CONTROLLING, FINDIG ALL KINDS OF FAULT IMAGINED, OR OTHERWISE, TO MAKE THEM FEEL UNWORTHY, AND QUESTION THEMSELF. He al😅😮)ways had to be in contr😅ol. Than the abuse escalated. JP is an evil man

  • @pattidugger6885
    @pattidugger6885 2 місяці тому +1

    This breaks my heart .

  • @robinanderson7283
    @robinanderson7283 2 місяці тому

    How my heart breaks for her. She didn't deserve to be treated so horribly.

  • @monicaswavel6074
    @monicaswavel6074 2 місяці тому +1

    Mica was a beautiful soul. She's in heaven but praying for justice to be served in the mighty name of Jesus 🙏

    • @lilac6940
      @lilac6940 2 місяці тому

      I really hope she's up there in perfect peace with Jesus, not paying one iota of attention to anything happening here, with not a care in the world for eternity.

  • @T3361t
    @T3361t 2 місяці тому

    Can you provide date for this voice mail?

  • @DiscernmentNow
    @DiscernmentNow 2 місяці тому

    She sounds like she was SUCH a sweetheart!! Makes me SO ANGRY!! I know many women in the church who are NOT listened to, and the men are BELIEVED. 😡😡😡😩😩😩

  • @ST-rj8iu
    @ST-rj8iu Місяць тому +1

    What did these women see in him? I don't get it.

  • @countygirl35
    @countygirl35 2 місяці тому

    This is heartbreaking

  • @SaynabYusuff
    @SaynabYusuff 2 місяці тому

    I need to know if this woman shared these voicemails with the JP. Because that could be a motive and it wouldn't surprise me if she did.

  • @angelashort1331
    @angelashort1331 2 місяці тому

    True voice , . The other voice before she died , unreal .

  • @soulsister2022
    @soulsister2022 2 місяці тому +1

    Oh wow, the conspiracies run deep. I pray no one is struggling with mental health issues. This beautiful woman was failed by her family & so called friends. She needed help.

  • @skyleawood2649
    @skyleawood2649 2 місяці тому

    Heartbreaking 😢

  • @AnnaD25
    @AnnaD25 2 місяці тому +2

    😢

  • @habibj
    @habibj 2 місяці тому

    JP has not missed a beat. As fate would have it, he is Suzy now.

  • @boundariesforwomen1310
    @boundariesforwomen1310 Місяць тому

    The thing that's a mystery is how that guy has not been arrested. If, and that's a big IF, Mica had a "mental illness," my guess is it could have been PTSD from living with a narc/psychopath.

  • @TheEC35
    @TheEC35 24 дні тому

    He cheated on Allison with her. Probably no one believed Allison before. Years later he did the same to her. I just say this because I’ve realized that evil people end up being exposed. And I pray there is justice for Mica Francis.

  • @wk8000
    @wk8000 Місяць тому

    He will face the judgment of God for what he has done! At least she’s with Jesus and out of her suffering with him, but her poor children! She was such a beautiful soul!❤😢

  • @apriltucker1212
    @apriltucker1212 2 місяці тому

    This story is heart breaking. 2nd your eye makeup is a 🔟

  • @flowerpower3618
    @flowerpower3618 2 місяці тому

    Poor girl.

  • @london1823
    @london1823 2 місяці тому

    Can you put more filters for your face? 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @wk8000
    @wk8000 Місяць тому

    I’m curios how the other wife was attained by him? How did he grin his first wife like he did Mica?

  • @lisamarieadame8331
    @lisamarieadame8331 2 місяці тому

    I don't think her death was self induced. Praying that the truth comes out.

  • @user-rt9uc2yt2x
    @user-rt9uc2yt2x 2 місяці тому

    In her own words…..

  • @Blueballoonss
    @Blueballoonss 2 місяці тому

    How many wives does this pastor already hv😮

  • @gigi1332
    @gigi1332 2 місяці тому

    Jamie Dlux channel who knew her exposed this

  • @domingonavarro1288
    @domingonavarro1288 Місяць тому

    lol! This is the woman (Mica) that “stole” the ex’s husband! Mica, was not of a sound mind. This only serves to show that. Leave the poor woman alone. You know that you’re exploiting her death, taking advantage of this “opportunity”.

  • @KFC8922
    @KFC8922 2 місяці тому

    Omg 🥹🥹🥹😭

  • @edove5630
    @edove5630 2 місяці тому

    😮

    • @edove5630
      @edove5630 2 місяці тому

      the problem is that even if she did anything bad in her relationship (like infidelity) an abuser will nitpick and start to threaten you. they will say "you're not good enough" and things like "well what do you think you deserve"....often times infidelity DOES happen with people who are in relationships with narcissists because narcissists will NEVER be able to give you the love that you need especially if you are an empath. my heart is breaking because if this was the case for Mica (which we really don't know)....it would explain a lot in that voicemail. The problem is that sometimes people have very difficult personalities (aka JP) and it can leave woman trapped with men like that. There is no way out.

  • @Shanaseeya
    @Shanaseeya 2 місяці тому +1

    I didnt hear anything about her warning Alison about her kids? And if so why in the heck would know they are in danger and only mention it at the end of the marriage. Like just walk away if you want to be free. Why try invading his life thats what got her in the end, sheer revenge 💔

    • @hope4all366
      @hope4all366 2 місяці тому

      It sounds like Mica looked after the kids when JP had visitation. Since Mica was getting a divorce, she could not be there to protect them. Good for Mica looking out for her step kids.

  • @geraldbrewer7900
    @geraldbrewer7900 Місяць тому +1

    You can always leave! Walk away

  • @danicasmommyhulseberg5671
    @danicasmommyhulseberg5671 Місяць тому

    Please quit using the word “unalive”, it sounds so stupid!!!

    • @debbytidwell9870
      @debbytidwell9870 Місяць тому

      It is so their video isn’t taken down. I didn’t like it when I first heard it; then I heard the reason.

  • @FlyFreeSurviv4
    @FlyFreeSurviv4 2 місяці тому +3

    The bible-belt is so f'd-up. This poor lady was concerned about forgiving her *ABUSER, TORMENTOR, MASTER* wanted to have forgiveness towards the person who belittled her, sexually assaulted her, shamed her, had her mentally committed, degraded her in front of *the congregation* isolated her, disparaged her, stalked her, and harassed her to the point of fearing for her very life.
    *There is a thing called righteous anger bible-belt* When a person is abused, psychologically, spiritually, sexually, and monetarily, plus like Mica was (for years) I’m quite sure God gives her time to process, reflect, heal and come to terms of ‘forgiveness’, with righteous anger, *IN TIME, NOT instantaneously.*

    • @Me-hf4ii
      @Me-hf4ii 2 місяці тому +3

      as a survivor of abuse, I realized that my hate for that man was talking away from me, not him. He had power over me due to my resentment of him - righteous though it may have been.
      As the old saying goes: holding onto anger is like holding a match and waiting for the other person to burn.
      She wanted to be free from him. She wanted to do the right thing for the right reasons when everything around her was wrong. And she had the mental fortitude and health and courage to see that if she wasn’t careful, this situation could consume her. She knew she needed to forgive him for herself. Not to make a place for him in her heart - but so that her heart could be truly free of him, and any feelings of resentment that the felt metastasizing there.
      I don’t think this has anything to do with Bible Belt nonsense… I think this is actually an expression of universal holiness and truth that you will find in almost every philosophical and religious belief system throughout history.
      The Bible Belt nonsense was her being told she had to suffer abuse because God hated divorce. THAT was the religious abuse aspect of this case.

    • @suzannemartin6817
      @suzannemartin6817 2 місяці тому

      Also, from experience, there has to be both: a hard NO, significant and enforced boundaries ( I didn’t do this very well and suffered because if it) AND a cleaning and healing of the heart.

    • @Coffeelover4evr
      @Coffeelover4evr 2 місяці тому

      @BabylonIzFalling I doubt that. She divorced her first husband because she was caught having an affair with jp while he was married to Ali. And, they were all best friends at the time. So the bible belt had nothing to do with it. God had nothing to do with it.

  • @PoSHEmediaglobal
    @PoSHEmediaglobal 2 місяці тому

    Marraige is truly not everyone but society won’t let us rest till we are one even if it kills us

  • @DavidMars
    @DavidMars 2 місяці тому

    Jesus failed to take the wheel

  • @3yearsago287
    @3yearsago287 2 місяці тому +2

    Mica has the audacity to call her when she was messing around with her husband. Im sorry but shes part of the problem here. A lot of women cheat on their husband to be with jp. Smh

    • @brookico
      @brookico 2 місяці тому +3

      Mica was groomed by JP starting at just 14-15 years old . I think Ali was smart enough to realize that. I think she probably understood Mica better than most because she had dealt with how JP was herself. I guarantee you she is greatful that marriage dissolved and she was able to get out when she did because if not she could have been in Mica’s place.

    • @Coffeelover4evr
      @Coffeelover4evr 2 місяці тому +2

      @brookico When did society stop taking responsibility for its actions, and choices? Instead chose to do what's morally wrong and blame it on another. She caused Ali and her kids a world of emotional pain and confusion. Not to mention having to start over from scratch because jp didn't help much with child support. Stop making excuses. I knew at 15 what was right and wrong, and I wasn't a strong Christian at that time.

    • @brookico
      @brookico 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Coffeelover4evr You also likely didn’t have a sociopathic narcissist brainwashing you. It wasn’t just Mica, he brainwashed a whole congregation of 700+ people into coming and listening to his BS every Sunday. Ali said that he had been having inappropriate relationships with m1nors & prostitutes so I HIGHLY doubt that she would look at her relationship with JP and think Mica was the one to mess things up. JP was 28 when he started preying on a 14-15 year old Mica. If it hadn’t been her it would have been another young girl/v:ctim. You think it couldn’t have happened to you, but how do you know? You were never in Mica’s position to know what you would or wouldn’t have done. This whole victim blaming mentality is not a good look just so you know.

    • @hope4all366
      @hope4all366 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Coffeelover4evrIt appears that she had forgiven Mica. Why can't you?

    • @Coffeelover4evr
      @Coffeelover4evr 2 місяці тому +1

      @hope4all366 Why on earth would you think I have unforgiveness towards Mica when I personally don't know her and she never did anything to me? I'm simply stating facts. Such a strange question, you ask. 🤔smh

  • @3yearsago287
    @3yearsago287 2 місяці тому +1

    Can these so-called Christians women be faithful to their husband? Suzie and Mica and the other mistress at the beach. All three cheated on their husband.

  • @timyoung8935
    @timyoung8935 2 місяці тому +7

    Sadly this once valid channel has been sucked into this pathetic non story. Shameless.

    • @lionheartmerrill1069
      @lionheartmerrill1069 2 місяці тому +16

      ​@jacqz7520 Yeah, what the??? Solid Rock Church member???

    • @maxiedoodle
      @maxiedoodle 2 місяці тому +1

      Valid and accurate. Unfortunately there are those who are believing the Liar who lies ..not only with his voice, but with his pathetic body... constantly.

    • @trickortrump3292
      @trickortrump3292 2 місяці тому

      @@maxiedoodleHas nothing to do with believing the liar who lies. I have no problem whatsoever believing he is capable of murder. At first I thought he killed her. Then evidence came out that proved undeniably that it was a suicide. He’s a monster but you literally have zero evidence this was anything other than a suicide. I wouldn’t trust a word that came out of his mouth. But you know what I would trust? A 911 call saying “I’m about to kill myself and I want my family to know where to find me”. I don’t reach for nonsense to explain that away like the idiotic “mUsTa BeEn AI”.

    • @MsDropofrain
      @MsDropofrain 2 місяці тому +14

      JP is shameless. His cult followers are shameless. "Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in private rooms shall be proclaimed on the housetops". Luke 12:2-3

    • @brettcantrell8650
      @brettcantrell8650 2 місяці тому +11

      hohohoho JP, is that you?

  • @janetkendle2073
    @janetkendle2073 2 місяці тому +1

    😢😢😢