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Nvidia thinks they can pull a fast one on gamers looking to grab an RTX 3060, but we know you're smarter than that - Let's dig deeper and see if we can figure out why they're launching cryptocurrency mining cards...
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@Jeff Griep More people sholud appreciate the pure gold of this comment. 9000 from me (for what it's worth...) (probably not much...) (but anyways...) :D
You just made my day. Vastly underrated comment
Stop generating unnecessary waste! Also go out and buy a unitasker razor kit in addition to all the other shaving equipment you already own!
If you think of it the other way, it’s more likely people will click on this video being a bit controversial so a good AD opportunity..(?)
#topcommentgod
Mr Krabs: I like money
Nvidia: You’re hired
Guy: why do you do what you do?
Nvidia: money
-*you`re-
Thx :)
* You are
Linus loves money- Sponsors
@@waldolemmer bro its just a fuckin youtube comment
Three weeks later and yes, the limiter has just been bypassed. People mining on their 3060s at full speed. So much for 'unhackable'.
And NVidia themselves leaked the damn thing, I can't believe it myself
@@rogehmarbi must've listened to linus I guess.
haha they are like the people that made the titanic, so much for their unbreakable ship.
@@SabirTheHuman The leading theory on the Titanic is that it wasn't due to a bad design but rather bad administration. There was a fire aboard the ship that did some serious damage to the hall in the exact spot where the Iceburg hit. That fire happened BEFORE the ship left port but they covered it up. They also didn't have enough life rafts even though the ship had space for them. It's more like NVIDIAs administration (or really just about every big companies administration) is like the Administration behind the Titanic, they employ people who genuinely care and do everything they can to do the right thing but the bosses only really care about money.
@@grn1 I never knew about that fire. I guess you can learn things from unexpected places.
Linus the only guy that didn’t forget about the little ones when he got big. How many people can you really say that about?
mr beast I think
We should support AMD
@@spasiklakigaming5075 until AMD inevitably fucks up
this comment didn't age well, literally follows this up with a video supporting mining :/
@@Jere2Pretty What's wrong with mining?
funny that they focus on destroying the used market when you can't even buy a fucking card new if you wanted to.
i literally have had an extra $600 on hand for a 3070 since they were announced, and im STILL holding on to it because i cant find one. This is ridiculous
I found one at my local pc repair shop and paid $650 for a $500 card. It’s ridiculous. I do feel bad for people who still haven’t found any.
@@skeezy96 The 3060 Ti kind of makes the 3070 look retarded. Just a PSA.
Even the used market prices are up. I upgraded to a 980 ti a couple weeks ago and the cheapest one I could find was like $280
@@legoentertainment8750 u could have got a brand new gtx 1660 super for 240$ so u kinda wasted ur money
Linus almost sounds like his last name is Torvalds
ok
that's what i was thinking, almost the same level of ranting
Fuck you Nvidia!
Not enough curse words, excuse me, strong language.
Linus is living up to his name!
Anyone that says Linus is a sellout after this.
Man is burning bridges with Nvidia, balls and integrity to do that.
This didnt age well
this definetly did not age well
@@godricheir why what happened
@@wolfgangvonriva7168 why WHT happened
@@godricheir wdym
Gamer: Yeay, no more miner on RTX. Less demand, less price.
Nvidia: that's not how capitalism works
lol
People who mining with AMD Radeon GPU:ᕙ[･･]ᕗ
2019: “remember when GPU’s were 200$?”
2021: “remember when we could play a game?”
Remember when GPUs EXISTED?
Intel with IGPU
Remember when you didn't have to get a mortgage on a GPU?
Why should Nvidia care so much about gamers? Gamers are making up less and less of Nvidia's revenue - most of their money is coming from datacenter, embedded systems, AI, and cryptomining. Plus its easier to deal with datacenters and crypto farms that will just buy up 1000s of cards at a time at a much higher profit margin per chip than deal with gamers who are always complaining "oMG dRiVeRs gLitCh In tHis SpeCiFic sCenarIo iN tHis oNe gaME + geForCe eXPeriEncE sUcKs" all day.
I get it... but you can still play a game. You still have a graphics card, even if outdated. Being able to play doesn't mean 400 fps at 4k...
You know you messed it up when a Canadian gets angry at you
Ikr
@@MrPlaidFace lol
💯
isnt this something like the gtx 1660 super review
@Boy Rubberduck
I remember seeing this comment on the 10980XE review
But I doubt he copied this and even if he no one should really care lol
Nvidia: People are using our graphic card to mine.
Also nVIDIA: This graphics card is not for mining.
Also Also nVIDIA: Here is a mining chip, kappo.
"to basically every company that is beholden to its stakeholders, you're nothing more than a living wallet on legs"
comrade linus
[Soviet anthem intensifies]
Planet:
Silicon and general resource shortages
Environmental crisis
Companies and crypto-miners:
Destroying planet through mining currency
Destroying consumer buying power
Affecting our quality of life
Producing unsustainable waste unnecessarily
Linus:
"Maybe this isn't such a good idea"
Your average UA-camr:
bUt ThAt'S sOcIaLiSm!!11!
@@kennobody
Calm down, Ivan. We were just having a laugh. Here, have my sickle.
@@manictiger you mean.... have my testicle¿
based linus. the channel where you can learn about the latest in hardware and gaming as well as the crippling fallout of capitalism UwU
Mad respect to Linus and the entire LTT media group team for this - this kind of no BS reporting is pure gold and much appreciated.
@Strawberry Kiys that doesn't make any sense. Crypto miners are the ones that will most benefit from having dedicated cards that only they can use. If they want him to advertise crypto then they want cards to make crypto with that no one else will buy before they get them.
Edit: plus you the block won't stop them buying them up anyways. They will be hacked regardless of nvidia claims they can't be. And they block only blocks ethereum so they'd still just use them to mine something else.
@Strawberry Kiys that's interesting
@Strawberry Kiys yeah Linus also mines. So I question how impartial he really is. Also LTT’s sole purpose is to hawk ewaste...
@@sinepnam Linus is coming from the perspective of a miner... he has skin in the game.
@Strawberry Kiys I'm sorry since when is applying logic a "spin"? And no isn't hypocritical. He takes sponsor money from all kinds of sources. That doesn't mean he's beholden to any of them.
Edit: being transparent about who is sponsoring him isn't "behind the scenes" it's right out in the open.
“Unhackable” sounds like they’re provoking a day zero breach.
'day zero breach' That's a new one.
Last time a CEO made something unhackable. Project zero dawn happened.
Unhackable would have to be exceedingly trivial or absolutely remote.
I don't think anyone has a pedigree for non-hackable things, let alone nVidia.
I bet smart people with a hex editor will find that software "plug" which slows down mining in a matter of weeks.
to the moon
Think about all them chips wasted on smartphones that come out every year. No bigger e-waste than smartphones.
Yes but old phones can still be sold after the next-gen comes out
@@spasiklakigaming5075 Yeah it does happen but hardily and usually old phones are gotten rid of because of a smashed screen. People buy a contract and get the phone. Then get another phone. By the time the phone is done being used it's usually beaten up.
@@spasiklakigaming5075 And it doesn't help with smartphone manufacturers making repair of devices extremely hard. They see them as disposable. And with new iPhones completely breaks features on the phone.
Smartphones are a big issue aswell but that is no reason to produce additional e waste now is it?
Designing a product that absolutely could have an extended lifespan in the used market to deliberately be worthless once mining crypto becomes less profitable is inexcusable.
@@danielschroedinger2090 I think you misunderstood my point. I wasn't trying to do whataboutism. None of it's okay with me. These chips are a limited resource. We need this stuff in the future. Otherwise, we are screwed. It's why companies stopping repairing need to be stopped the waste is too much.
Thank you for using your platform to speak out against corporate BS like this. We appreciate you and your team Linus.
When a big-name company says "Unhackable" I can almost hear thousands of code-monster's ears prick up, in caves across the globe... a rumble, a multitude of echoes of grim rasping words muttered again and again across the dark corners of the internet.... "challenge... accepted.."
The sound of a thousand clicks...
Worse is Nvidia thinks "Unhackable" will stop miners from their MacCas
Not everything is hackable nobody managed to hack intel CPU multiplier lock (not counting some limited hacks)
Only a donk at HR or Marketing would be naive enough to make such claims
not caves. basements
Everytime I heard "It can't be hacked" It ended up being cracked open faster than a bag of chips being stepped on.
Yeah it's like challenge accepted! lol
What the heck is crypto mining? And what does it have to do with a gpu???
Cracked open faster than the White House 👁👄👁
With the exception of RDR2, that shit took ages
Anybody thinking about ps3 xD
You had my repect for supporting right to repair, ECC memory, and this.
This video aged like fine wine…
“So Nvidia, fuck you!”
- Linus
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So buy a AMD 6000 series. Same boat can’t buy retail and scrapers are grabbing them as fast as they are released with bots or Discord. The used market is even worse. I used eBay $1 bid and now my 1070 is at $510 Cnd. I paid $470 new.
What's the plural form of "Linus"?
Linuses? Lines?
@@sasjadevries replace Linus with Pinus and ask the same question
@@sasjadevries linuses
RTX 4080 will come out before I can get a 3080 at a reasonable price.
Truth
Reasonable price? That means nothing when they aren't available for the average consumer
fax
Scalped*
Fucking true
After the NiceHash video I have to believe that NVIDIA is not the only one pretending to care about gamers for profit.
ur so bloody right ...
I was under the impression it's far easier to spot a business using the "for gamers!" branding to rip off their customers than it would be to spot one who genuinely cares. Gaming chair, gaming mouse, prebuilt "gaming" pc, gaming water & so on.
they're actually increasing the price of Geforce Now.
The dollars in existence went up 40% last year. It's only natural for prices to go up. We ain't seen nothing yet.
@@solaroid4442 I’m pretty sure it’s 60% basically on the verge of hyperinflation, we will most definitely see the results of it soon
@@solaroid4442 still that doesn't make much sense, when dollar in existence goes up, but the majority of people are no richer. Those dollars aren't going to people with mass buying potential. Printed dollars only account for a minimal percentage of actual economy that is ruled by digital finances held in banks and private non-physical accounts.
@@Real_MisterSir It makes the perfect sense. They stir up fear and instability, so people are afraid to spend, and keep their money in the bank or invested. At the same time the new money go to their friends and to the bankrupt government, and are spent immediately. It's the largest scam performed in human history.
Now we are seeing asset inflation (stocks and real estate), but when the fear dissipates and people start spending again it's hitting consumer goods. And then the fun part starts.
@@solaroid4442 I can't hear the issues over the sound of my non-American freedom
but on a serious note, economics are far more complex than what can be summed up in such a simple statement as "evil government is evil, bad people get money". Yes it is for the most part true, that rich get richer, and there are tons of issues with inflated inflation (aka disproportional inflation) such as prices for apartments, educations, etc which are not linearly scaling with average household economy, and so on. But these are not the schemes made by people who know how to make money. It's made by masses of people who don't find issues with the situation of things for too long, and then the wealthy people quickly find ways to exploit the ignorance of the masses. If masses stopped being so ignorant and started changing their ways, it would force change in the system as a whole. But too many people are too comfortable in their lives to do something about it.
Nvidia: The Way You're Meant to Be Played
this is gold. pure gold. lol
linus should pin this for future reference on nvidia
winning
This hits far :o
The way I mined something that bought me a free house.
"Nvidia keeps getting hate on gaming community"
EA: First time?
Shit 🤣🤣
Its justified
Big companies become stupid after a while of being infected by the global elite/SJW agenda, we've got to support talented smaller devs.
@@OGPatriot03 👍😤
@@OGPatriot03 no step on snek
Everyone is mad at scalpers and crypto miners, yet EVERY youtuber has 36 3080s. lol
Tbf, if those were out on the market, they'd just be scalped/mined to hell & back like everything else.
And if they were sold you wouldn’t get your hand on a single one. Before the signal in your brain could even start the bots would take every single last card and leave you empty and defeated
Wait till scalpers get fucked by Karma soon
@@beefy8188
Lol they already made all their money back and then some, what you should be hoping for is that the GPUs they sell back function correctly
Well even if yputuber has like 3 or 4 grapic cards thats only a drop in the bucket out of the tens ofthousonds of mines having tens of thosunds of GPUs in them. Its the MEGA GPU mines that are the problem.
longer hair, beard, beanie?
He's morphing, boys
AMD: Never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.
True fax
Miners will buy up all AMD cards, as they will have resell value. And the fun part is that after the crypto crash, nobody will buy NVIDIA cards anyways because AMD cards will be so cheap. These mining only cards can’t compete with serious ASIC miners.
@@ritteradam I'm not sure what crypto crash Linus is referring to because there was a dip in 2018 but until every crypto crashes there won't be an end to mining.
@@ritteradam i really hope what you say happens and treating consumers like shit will get back at them but i dont think it will
@@minimonkeyplay Don’t worry, the crash will come, just not yet :)
I'm surprised how serious Linus is about this. Definitely a different atmosphere in this video.
Yeah he really leaned his whole foot into Nvidia here, no punches pulled. Made me flip my outlook on the situation.
Who wouldn't be angry? Nvidia is the Miners card, gamers are no longer a priority.
One of the most relevant topics possible in my world, thanks for breaking it down, I've been furious about the whole situation. Hopefully they listen!
Could be cause of the controversy a while back about how Nividea treated another UA-camr
These lockdown's got everyone all fu*ed up
who came from the Nicehash sponsored video?
Me
look up "What Linus Tech Tips DIDN'T Tell You About NiceHash" on youtube
so glad i bought a card from AMD when i did
"NVIDIA don't care about you"
Linux users: first time, huh?
It’s not open source but at least they have blob drivers
@@realtimestatic which always cause the weirdest problems ever. If you're playing on Linux, you're pretty much forced to use AMD.
@@user-xr3rb6pn9m Not always. The only weird problem with Nvidia I've encountered in the last 5 years was when I tried installing FerenOS and I had to select a specific option to get it to boot. That and the fact that Nvidia doesn't support Wayland.
@@realtimestatic How can it be worse? Buggy blob drivers?
@@EddieTheLightbringer which is more and more of a problem, as more and more mainstream distros move to Wayland as a default.
I'm picturing nVidia's CEO running and dancing on stage, all sweaty, shouting "shareholders, shareholders, shareholders".
Nice
"...all sweaty..." Spot on :D
"Developers" by 1doony4u is one of the first vids I ever saw on youtube and one I still go back to semi-regularly. You'll like it.
"bitconnneeecccccct"
@@peter-gn8ey Yeah I know. It's a classic! I saw it when it came out and probably 1,000 times since. I wish there was a version with better sound quality because the music is awesome.
*Nvidia treat their customers like Disney treats their Star Wars fans....with contempt !*
The day that percieved sleights towards childish men are confirmed to be worthy of comparison with truly harmful actions is the day that the mindset of the human race becomes irredeemable and void.
i must be high or something, dead pan jumped when the black mouse cursor moved across the screen. I thought there was a beetle or something for about half a second
There are over 500 languages in the world and Linus chose to speak facts
First comment
300th like on your comment :D
Linus be spitting facts
📠
just like trump
Writer: Anthony Young. One of the many reasons we love Anthony.
No offense but I don't even care about the comment, I'm just stuck on the fact that your name is aardvaark while your profile picture is a capybara...
Quack ~ 🦆
He really is one of the best things to come out of LMG. Of course the other writers are amazing as well, but with how much Anthony focuses deeply on topics like these is amazing. No doubt Linus also helped here.
His soothing ass voice is why I love him
Funny cause he uses Apple products which are worse with the first 2 of the 3 rs.
Why do ltt fans love Anthony. I don't get it
Basically we need another company to overthrow nvidia's monopoly so they think twice before doing stupid stuff
Wow! Linus! Taking my hat off for this! Balls of steel! How do you like that, nVidia, does the truth hearts a lot?
During a special intern event at Disney Imagineering, the tour guide said: "The point of Disneyland is to make money for the Disney shareholders. We enjoy what we do because it makes people happy, but don't forget that this is still a corporation"
Psycopaths inc.
Atleast they’re straight up... reality is without shareholders they wouldn’t receive a paycheck. Money is more important than anything... No matter where you work
Explains why they lick China's foot
Yeah the activity to make the money is secondary to the main purpose of making the money where it definitely should be the OTHER WAY AROUND !
@@gesamtkuntswreck but it's the truth
Reminds me a lot of the Titanic. People said it couldn’t sink. Just like this software to block crypto mining on 3060s. They say it can’t be hacked. Unlikely.
Telling people it can't be hacked is literally an incentive for hackers that don't even care about mining to try and hack it. Nvidia must have missed the reverse psychology part of their team building seminar.
Pascal and Turing havent been yet and they have had years so....
That analogy is sadly way too accurate for comfort
Plus as a gamer I don't want this crap on my GPU as it could interfere with other programs.
@Waldel Martell why? They could just spend that Millie on 3060ti, 3070, 3080, vega, Navi, etc etc. Waste of time and money, no point in it.
That solution at the end sounds like a classic 'short term pain for long term gain' kinda thing
You know, linus might disappoint us some times, but it's those videos every once in a while when we know he will always be our guy.
Linus is spot on. As big as he is, saying all this can affect him and sponsorship. So I value this video a lot. Thanks Linus!
It really won't though, thats why he says it.
This is why I like Linus. He takes these sort of calculated risks and I think he has always considered his audience's best interest. And that's why his following keeps growing.
What he didn't say is that gamers have been easy marks for both the central banks and to crypto miners. Gamers have been overpaying through the nose for years because of the price jacking caused by both these parties.
This comment should be upvoted.
NVIDIA isn't going to fuck with anyone, let alone Linus after they burned themselves with the Hardware Unboxed debacle. At least not publicly. I wouldn't put it beyond them to pressure their partners like MSI or Asus to fuck with him instead.
Here I thought you already had 100% of my respect. Seems you managed to get 110%! Overclocked respect!
DBK !
Speaking about Overclocking- it's the right time to overclock your network security by using the **** VPN...
@Shadow Dragon Yeah but did you know you could save 15% of car insurance with Geico?
Dude is bitching about a business making money in between sponsorship plugs
Yoooo DBK!!!
"Linus, we're gonna need a thumbnail where you look like somebody's (literally).... just took the jam out of your donut..."
March 15th, 2021. Took them 3 weeks.
List of Linuses who are fed up wih Nvidia:
- Torvalds
- Sebastian
soon they will merge into Sebastian Torvalds
@@AdamVikingen you are a genius!
This list is growing at too slow of a rate. Wheres the other Linuses? Assemble
Pope Linus has yet to declare Nvidia anathema...
@@AdamVikingen that would be a God tier tech reviewer who would monopolize all of youtube's tech community. And he'd get tech Jesus, gamers nexus, to work for him, while allowing Anthony to just do his thing.
Love this kind of videos, no pointless screaming, no surpised open mouth thumbnail, just serious and direct information
I agree and I think Linus likes this too. But he als said once on a WAN show that they get much more views with clickbait-y titles and crazy thumbnails. So it’s also a financial decision for them. Therefore I can understand when they do it even though I much prefer this style as well.
@Strawberry Kiys you realise sponsors are required for the channel to keep growing, and for him to pay his employees?
@Strawberry Kiys I feel there's an element of truth here. Even though a direct comparison isn't valid due to the drastically differing business structures of Linus Media Group and Nvidia, the timecodes 0:09 and 0:50 really don't gel too well and frankly, put me off watching for one second more, though I did, and genuinely found many of his arguments both logical and convincing. However, ultimately he's criticizing a company for their reckless pursuit of "non eco-conscious" profit in the same breath as endorsing extravagant house branded merch and third party products via a tsunami of sponsored promotions, including hundred plus dollar men's grooming kits, T-Shirts, boxer shorts, hoodies, sweaters, pillows, scarfs and water bottles (all between twenty and fifty dollars each), and one of the most ubiquitous and arguably superfluous forms of internet service money can buy (VPNs). Moreover, all the while he continues to happily harvest commissions for a range of Nvidia products sold through multiple affiliates, including Amazon's influencer program. Apparently Nvidia pays its 18 plus thousand employees an average wage of well over $100.000 a year, I'm not sure where either Linus or those who agree with his opinion that "we're all just wallets on legs" to them think those salaries come from, but it might have just a little to do with shrewd form of free market capitalism that Linus and many other leading Tech channels seem to enjoy publicly shaming, whilst showing no sign whatsoever of ceasing themselves. I'm not against the principal, but criticizing commercial practices that you're actively engaging in and materially benefiting from is more than a tad hypocritical.
"I'm talking of course of" skillshare! Tunnel Bear! wait what?
my hope (thinking optimistically) is that after they're done being mining cards, that they will be good to be used for tasks like rendering and other things that don't require a display output.
I've heard of single use wet wipes, single use diapers, but this is the first time I've heard single use graphics cards.
I'm curious what a multi use wet wipe would be. Isn't that just a wash cloth at that point?
But they arent even GPUs. Dont they lack a video out?
@@Frederick_Fazington_Fazbear
Slightly less bad for the environment, now they are dual use!
@@Buddahknife They lack everything a gpu does, think of them like ASICS with a PCIE port they are designed to do one thing. mine
@@Buddahknife
Well they are GPUs in Graphics Processing Unit (The small chip). But not Graphics Cards as they can't be used as such. I think.
I've never seen an angry Canadian before...
You should watch the video about nVidia telling off that Australian UA-camr because he didn't say favourable things about ray tracing..
AVGC
he's just a little upset, canadians don't get mad
@@user-mc6vi8yd7l UVGC
@@ial01 which video?
They should just use a „mining mode“ which limits the power heavily of the GPU specifically in mining operation - in games its full power.
That way, old cards get the focus for miners, and maybe they release RTX cards as „mining“ edition, undervolted by default, that perform better than the limited GPUs but they can play games just as fine.
Supply will be bad anyways because of scalpers, let’s be real. I don’t see the Market going normal any time soon, at least until there’s a RTX in every tech store in your country.
Thank you for a great video. The more I observe all this stuff, the more I want to support AMD or any other company.
That's it Linus, no more 3090s for you from the leather jacket crusader
As he couldn't afford those lol
lol
I hope he gets the same sort of email that HardwareUnboxed got, just because it would stir up so much in the community that Nvidia might get their morals straight
I mean he's called out Nvidia before. But he got those 3090's still. So maybe, maybe not.
@@ethanlenning damn I would love that but they've probably learned their lesson considering sending stupid emails to reviewers
Harsh reality for everyone: nerfed 3060 mining is STILL profitable for miners.
Rip
miners count a lot on the ability to re-sell as well... its crypto they dont need to mine to stay green. The only way to fix this is for manufacturers to hardware block their cards from being able to mine, no idea how that would even happen. But they are a company and they are in the business of money so really they dont give a shit who buys their cards, they have enjoyed a period of 4-5 months now where they have sold 100% of their stock. CMP is just an exercise in selling the Silicon they cant turn into GPU's for whatever reason to further increase their bottom line.
I think linus has this one wrong, They do care about gamers, they need us to make money when theres no mining boom, they care about money more though. they are a business after all. none of this is gonna make me buy an AMD GPU though haha.
you could say this about any modern GPU no matter what is done to it if they mine with it long enough and the mining landscape stays in good condition
It is ONLY nerfed for Ethereum. Not only is it unfair and silly to ONLY target Ethereum...Ravencoin is just as profitable at the moment, and it's not impacted.
Nvidia is incompetent AND artificially limiting their hardware at the same time.
It’s a total BS move by Nvidia. Great once again to see Linus come out for consumers on this and see thought the BS Nvidia talk.
Looking at the hash rates on these alleged mining cards they are well below the 30 series. My 3070 is hashing around 57 with a little memory OC and limited clocks on the die. This to me suggests that Nvidia has major yield problems with the 30 series and these “specific” mining chips are badly binned stock that would not even be fit for the 3060 let alone more.
We have dealers officially scalping users charging $100- 300 premiums a live RRP and a lack of supply. Mining is the least of Nvidia’s issues and it’s nothing but a smoke screen.
I suspect the 3060 with 12gb of ram would run out close to the same as 3070 on ether and Nvidia simply don’t want to see that.
I’m not a pro miner or anyone who does this for a living but I should be able to use the card for what I want. I bought the card to game and edit with but I have been mining Ether the last few weeks as it’s helping to pay back the massive cost of the card.
As for their can’t be hacked nonsense I give it 3 weeks.
As always nvidia have shown what they really think of users once again.
Fantastic video Linus and the team on this absolutely bang on.
May someone PLEASE word this out for me more basically I’m really stupid.
Nvidia has NO incentive to cater to you, the gamer, when miners currently represent a biggest return on investment (good business) , partly because they're willing to shed out more money than a normal consumer but also partly because miners completely destroy the second hand market by flooding it with useless, tapped-out hardware after using it for nonstop 24/7 hashing for months on end, thus forcing you to buy new (good business for Nvidia)
There's a silver lining in that BTC could have another price plummet (very likely considering this is how wealth is distributed to the top), and if Nvidia opens up their drivers in order to allow for underclocking (thus preserving hardware for far longer) we could reap the returns of cheap graphic cards as miners liquidate their assets (i.e. sell their mining hardware to coup for losses) but they won't because that could affect short-term profit (bad business on the short run)
That was a Linus move that shown you guys care more on be independant rather than focus on a major sponsor.
Well done !
Linus is one powerful voice in this industry and i'm glad he is around.
nah he's a twat, all his points make no sense. He only wants money too and clickbait video is how he will get money.
@@krizby87 how so
@@krizby87 That is true. But at least he influence the industry somewhat !
@@krizby87 Do you want to expand on how his points make no sense or just pretend you understood the video and spite bullshit?
@@_hector__ Well this time around AMD is coming up really close, Nvidia has to make sure their RTX GPUs are reaching as many gamers as possible so that they have the upper hand in PC gaming. Sure Nvidia only wants your money but keeping their long term customers happy (AKA gamers) would be to their best interest.
Saying that "it can't be hacked" only challenges hackers even more.
Financially motivated hackers. It’s a perfect storm
There is not and never will be a device that cannot be hacked.
remember denuvo? Oh that's right, the drm was bypassed. And most likely bc they claimed it couldn't be.
@@brewst43 yet my pirate ass is still wait for the 2019 Modern Warfare...Idk how the fuck that game's still uncracked
@@probablypahul it's because nobody tried to crack it
If someone actually puts effort in it ... It can surely be cracked
I've really been wanting to upgrade my PC and the last couple months I finally thought I had enough money to do so, until I began researching for GPUs and seeing their prices. Damn....I'm stuck for a while.
Nvidia is the reason that computer parts and pc gaming are so expensive! Stop blaming Covid, or chip shortages, or supply chain issues, or scalpers, or even crypto! Nvidia’s products have always been overpriced, even before the pandemic, and forced other companies to drive up their prices to keep up!
When a usually supremely nice, cheerful and generally positive guy goes cynical I listen double hard to what they have to say.
@ghost robles Its hard being happy when you get attacked for being happy and being attacked makes you less happy so I don't get how you can be happy with people around like that
You only see the side they want. How do you know any of the act that is potrayed is true either way?
That's a fallacy, bud
My thoughts too
@ghost robles Had to pause the video because that comment deserves 110% of my attention. Go back to wearing it on your sleeve. It'll be hard sometimes when you feel exploited, disappointed and alone but remember you, the real you whichever that is, is what is worth living life for. I've always respected the people who are like you massively. You're a great person, don't get too caught up in what others think about you❤️
AMD: Lets hold off on that new mining card release.
LMAO
AMD's mining cards can be used for gaming, I used a mining RX 570 and it works just as well. You just need an adapter for an HDMI display if ever.
@@hexadecimal1517 or just pump the output through onboard graphics or another card...
@@ilovefunnyamv2nd AMD doesn't manufacture their products...the problem is fab production. There's literally only one company that's viable right now in the fab industry - TSMC. Everyone is lining up to get their business including even Intel now. Until other fabs catch up to TSMC, this issue is not going away anytime soon.
Okay skipping my 3070 update until mybe next year! Thank you mate!
5:08 Nice camera skills!
It's rare seeing Linus being so angry. Boys we gotta start a crusade.
Last time I've seen him so angry it was because of Nvidia as well, coincidence? I think not
My sword is yours to command.
Deus id vult!
He ranted about Intel too.
He should do a similar video about Apple and compare it to someone who does things right like Fairphone...
Fck Nvidia this year - just bought myself a piano instead. xD
Can play quite a bit of different stuff on it, and for free!
what are the specs on that bad boy
AMD is a good company that makes good cards at better prices.
The last time I bought a new GPU was.... A Radeon 9500? These days, I just use old hardware (from decades ago) to play. The best computer in my house is a Ryzen 3400G (no external GPU) which I occasionally use to edit videos but mostly acts as an entertainment center PC.
There's always /r/outdoors....
@@KRYMauL there is no such thing as a good company
4:58 Look at young Linus!
Circular Economy at its finest. Thank you for spreading the word. :)
Not only gamers, 3D artists needs GPU also to render :'(
@Thomas Berger You're right XD.
I render mostly on my cpu
and data scientists for machine learning algorithms.
@@Sem_M23 then you're missing out
as a 3D artist, i felt that
Also don't forget: They want to prevent regular people from mining.
I mean yeah but you can't do to much mining with 1 or 2 GPUs anyway
@@pekame I mean if you have relatively low tax on electricity you can mine a good amount on your pc while you aren’t using it
@@pekame Well, I bought 2 3070s (1 for me and 1 for my girlfriend) and leaving them to mine during worktime and bedtime managed us to mine enough to get 55% of what I spent on one 3070 (I've been doing this for 1.5 months so far)..
So it doesn't look any bad to me.
Also 1 3070 doing 40 mh/s for 1 week gives me more than all my electrical bill for the >whole month<
Edit: accurately calculated % of how much money I got back from what I spent 1x3070
@@Ferdam aaand, its not even the peak of the bullrun, a 10k ethereum is expected by the end of the year
@@pekame lol no it depends on how cheap your electricity is and many other factors.
I could see second hand value for someone who wants to convert a box into a in-home streaming solution similar to your Threadripper build video. I wouldn't build a new pc for that purpose but I can see using an old one...
Did I just watched an ad for a crotch scraper? Lol
This reminds me a Linus quote.
“Nvidia, Fuck you!”
-Linus Torvalds
For the uninitiated ua-cam.com/video/iYWzMvlj2RQ/v-deo.html
linus torvalds and linus sebastian are the same person
Isn't it linus Sebastian?
Gotta love Torvalds' rants.
@@rexaimo1 You're watching Linus Sebastian. The quote was Linus Torvalds.
Linus Torvalds is salty that the 5 games that can run on Linux are not optimized for Nvidia cards
These companies aren't loyal to you, quit being loyal to them.
ME CUSTUMERS!!
It's not about loyalty. Linus is punishing a good company for a good decision it made. Totally different
loyalty doesn't matter anymore, we (gamers) dont matter because we are being beaten by miners who will buy from amd or nvidia either way because mining profits are all they care about, loyalty isnt a concept for them
The problem is there is no alternative. It's not like we can bootstrap a video card.
*laughs in apple*
Thanks for the great info
Excellent analysis. Thank you very much !
FINALLY
Bravo Linus, and Anthony. Enjoying Anthony's writing very much lately. Well done guys 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
How do you see who was the writer for videos?
@@Itz_Worm at the end of the video it shows all the staff names and their roles
👍
@@brokengames9020 batata
@@brokengames9020 There's a difference between applauding someone for calling attention to a problem and believing every word they say.
I think a lot of us are here because we find the videos produced by LMG to be entertaining not because we buy every product they promote.
Nvidia: "Cannot be hacked"
Hackers: "Bet?"
Let's go lol
Exactly man, you got millions of tech wizards, it’s only a matter of time
Hacker be like : are you sure about that?
@@dr.donkey9254 not only that, there will be LOTS of money involved.
*hypothetical* its probably going to be a bios mod/flash, maybe even a mobile 3060 bios because they apparently exist already without the limiter
like fuck it, heres a program that lets you mine at full speed on a 3060, buuuuut dev gets 2 percent ;)
Still haven’t made an original Xbox emulator that can run more than a few games. But now that the actual original Xbox source code has been released by hackers online (after being stolen from Microsoft itself) last year. I am hopeful.
Regarding unlocking Phenom 4th core, I've had the unlucky piece which didn't work after unlocking this core in BIOS :-(..
This is keeping it hundred !!! I just built my new rig and my nephews first gaming rig, 4000 in hardware alone.
My man's gonna get black listed but he doesn't care. Linus is the MAN.
There is not a single gaming company willing to blacklist LTT, they are THE tech channel on youtube, blacklisting them would be a PR nightmare.
Agreed.
@@vmpere2637 this
Lol not happening. Linus is undoubtedly the biggest nvidia gpu salesman on UA-cam.
@@vmpere2637 if that happened its safe to assume majority of people who know ltt would boycott the company and then with six degrees of separation would reach pretty much every person on earth to do the same and they wouldnt necessarily need to know why, just that x company is bad and dont buy anything from them ever again. Wouldnt last forever but it would hurt their reputation bad.
"You need to feel bad for enjoying your life and stop buying video cards altogether."
(just kidding, if that wasn't clear)
'wHaT aRe yOu dOiNg hErE lOl'
Somehow I don't see you calling Nvidia out on this :)))
Wild GN appeared
Steeeeeevvvveeeeee
Well i know you were kidding, but im willing to stop anyways. Just send me your cards when you are "done" with them. ;)
so what card should I buy or more like can get
Is the lock only on during mining or is it on all the time?
Nvidia HQ: we gotta do something about these Linuses
Oh yes the Linus and Linus
Jesus Christ Linus, you can't just say extremely true things like that...
Especially about your parent company
He should do a similar video about Apple and compare it to someone who does things right like Fairphone...
@@leovice6505 Yeah, unfortunately they start trends to accelerate planned obsolescence which then other manufacturers adopt...
@@leovice6505 Exactly!
Even your profile pic started to cry because too much truth has been said
THIS VIDEO HITTIN DIFFERENT NOW LINUS BUDDY
hey that 1060 looks just like my card! wow
"Worthless on the secondhand market" is literally why they're doing it. They don' t have to compete with old cards if the old cards are worthless.
Hmmmm. I think hes got a point guys
This is bulshit. Mining cards are grest second hand deals
@@svenssoncorps that’s exactly the point. There won’t be any second hand 3060s that were used for mining
Thank you for making the exact same point as Linus does in the video?
@@adrianflo6481 To be fair I typed it out before I finished watching it, but my point still stands.
Ah yes the ROM republic of miners
Sounds like the name of Jeff Epstein's island.
@@SpcT0rres oof
hahahahaha
5:13 Can't stop laughing! 😂😂
Love all your videos man. 💙
Thats Nice, but how can I help to fix this?
“We’re releasing a 3060 for miners” for gamers you get the 1050ti. Such a good deal! This is worse than 2018. So stupid it makes me nauseous.
1050TI? This card is WORTHLESS!
@@pitekargos6880 true i have one and it's pretty much as good as dirt in term of playing modern games
@@Atomiiku that is sad
@@whalen4400 I'm currently using a GTX 1050Ti
@@Anugrah_Amriza im using 1650 im waiting 4years to make a sick pc but ill have to slip in an upgrade between that time
nvidia: "unhackable"
me: /*ps3 flashback*/
tbf. that was sony. But yeah, there is no such thing as unhackable
Xbox One has never been hacked
@@Sigilstone17 how silly of you to think that.
@@Sigilstone17 because no one needed to hack it. you could unlock dev mode on it with simple app, and you had gamepass
Reminds me of when I was on an Air Force base and saw a room filled with literally a hundred PS3's. They were using them for processing power.
I agree with you 100% and it started before the 30 series was even released. Every minute spent on producing mining cards is another minute not spent on producing GPUs.