This truck was 13,000 in 1991 which adjusted for inflation in 2018 is 23,592. But yet in 2018 for a 1500 series truck v8 well equipped runs 50,000-60,000 sad greedy world we live in.
that being said, think about what a “fully equipped” truck was back in the day. it meant AC, ABS, maybe an airbag, a better powertrain and tow rating, and bucket seats. the base level trucks today come with all that and more as standard, so really a base level truck today is about what a top tier truck would have been back in the day. doesn’t excuse how much they’re charging for a base truck (if you can even find one)
@@johnclark6139 I miss the trucks and how they were back then. Nothing you didn’t need or want, tastefully designed, MUCH more affordable, in quite a few ways more robust, less to go wrong and break, and oh how I miss real wheels and tires. More side wall for a better ride, didn’t have to constantly worry about scraping the wheels off of pretty much everything, and much much cheaper! Oh and have to add that anything bigger than a 17 or 18” wheel on a pickup looks so goofy. Like it’s some life size Hot Wheels haha Nah, gimme a 16 or 17 at most And a 15 is plenty on older trucks But the main thing is all the shit on trucks today that most will never use but you can’t get one without it. All this electronic drive mode, park sensor, traction control, auto stop start, lane assist, auto braking BS that is adding nearby $10,000 to the base price of a truck. And most of that stuff is shit that many will never need nor use. Dont ya just love wasting thousands upon thousands of dollars? I think I’d rather find a good used 90s Ford (especially one with the 300 six)
And don't forget they are over computerizing the crap out of everything in vehicles and that is really blowing up in their faces with these chip shortages. Now the windshield wipers are controlled by a computer module. Were we suffering back in the '80s and 90s with the basic electronic or mechanically controlled wipers? It's really ridiculous. Before long there will be a computer module just to pop open the fuel lid, if there isn't already. That stuff really adds up. I don't like any of that crap because it's all destined to tear up and it's all going to cost you extra money.
I'm a GM guy and I still say that Ford made damn good trucks from the 70's to the 90's. Now nobody makes a good simple dependable truck that won't rust to shit in 15 years. The truck shown here in standard cab with the XLT package a 5-speed, 4X4 and the 300 I-6 or 302/351 with modern fuel injection would sell like crazy today. Bet on it!
GM here too. Hard to argue with older ford trucks. Their doors actually shut and the seats don’t disintegrate. Ford trucks of 69-91 imo are better than GM but I prefer GM motors. Especially the LS over coyote.
I have never seen an F150 with the diesel engine...don't think that was actually an option, it was when you stepped up to the F250 but I don't recall it ever being an option in the F150's.
*"When adjusted for inflation, a comparable new truck will actually be cheaper."* Um, ORLY, Felix? You got the math on that one handy? The truck was sold in 1991 (or late 90), and cost $13,323 for an XLT Lariat Supercab. Ball's in your court...
+William Todd Video says you could, but I question the wisdom of putting such a capable work engine in a half-ton. You'd be limited by the GVWR and tow rating far more so than the engine; with the Diesel being heavier, it would actually haul less (legally) than even the I-6 gasser! If you'd "spring" for the Diesel, it would make sense to pay "a few dollars more" and get a 3/4 ton, at least. Unless they had an unloved F150 w/ 7.3IDI on the dealer's lot, and were letting it go super cheap!
+bcubed72 Yes, even though this is called the "Lariat", it's actually very basic by today's standards, more basic than even the base model 2017 F150 in most ways. This truck doesn't even have powered mirrors or full airbags, and most certainly doesn't comply with any of today's emissions or crash standards. Beside that, it doesn't even have the capability of even the base V6 F150. And when adjusted for inflation, $15,785 = $28,232.55 in 2017. That actually makes it more expensive.
Yup. Was at the Toyota dealership today and a loaded trd pro Tacoma is 60k! WTF? An SL 500 loaded Mercedes Benz was that in the 90s. I can't afford new anymore. Had a new 93 Z71 GMC extra cab loaded 23,900
@@TheScrubmuffin69 still a factory worker in the 80s- 90s made 15-20+ per hour. Same ppl in the 2000s made much less. Factory worker today is lucky to get $15per hour now. My mother made about $16/ hr in the early 90s same position pays LESS now 20 years after she left. Only low income jobs went up
Man, that Ford Nite still looks good today! When I was a kid, I always liked this particular iteration of the F-150 SuperCab. It looked tough, but not overly so. Plus, I still see them on the road over 20 years later, still looking great. I see more of the 92-96 SuperCabs, but I still smile a little when I see one of these still on the highway.
By far my favorite body style! Simple, reliable, affordable. I admired the modern tech packed in the news ones but you just can't beat these old workhorses!
87-91 ford trucks/bronco- that bucket seat interior plus that particular dash/windshied angle made for IMO the most comfortable truck Ford has ever made. You sit upright, everything is easy to see, outside and in. Everything is easy to reach, radio, etc. Doors were still close enough to the seat you could hang your arm out the window if you wanted. And lets not forget the long lost triangle vent windows. As the video mentions, the engines were suitable for the time, and reliable. The brakes were good, for a truck, for the period. Go look up some late 80's Chev/GMC reviews to see what the competitions brakes were like(the K5 Blazer would put you in the ditch with hard braking) 91 was also the very last year of the solid frame f150. 92 introduced a body style refresh and a crumple frame, along with a significant interior revision. To all the people ranting about engine HP, this truck had a curb weight of about 3900 lbs. That is actually less than a 2017 Ford Taurus. It's only about 150lbs more than a 2017 Honda Accord. They are trucks. The Ford small blocks can easily add 100HP with aftermarket bolt ons, without touching the short block, just by putting some more modern design heads and cams on, and will be 100% daily driver friendly and maintain most of it's fuel economy, in some cases improving it. Funny what 25 years of technology advancemt can do.
So very true, also the HP and torque ratings were downplayed in these trucks for insurance reasons so what people see on paper isn't really what they were capable of. I have the 88 F250 4x4 XLT Lariat Supercab with the 7.5L 460 V8, still going strong as is the 3 speed automatic transmission and that truck has spent most of its live towing/hauling, currently the odometer is at a little over 490k. Haven't done any engine or transmission work other than regular maintenance and transmission serviced very 35k. Wouldn't want one of the new trucks at all.
I daily drive my 1995 super cab f150 with the original 5.0 it has as of right now 336,200 miles on it. I have owed it since 2007 had a many person try to buy it I will never sell it
It as also known as the 300 CID straight 6 came out in 1961. Came out after Chrysler 225 slant 6 in 1959 which was used always up until 1988. The 225 Slant six (3.9L) was used in the Dakota always until its demise in 2009 I think was alright but not as good as the cast iron 225 slant 6.
Slug Jones yup my uncle looked at a pick up with some options...he died whey they told him $70k not included final fees and taxes xD. bought himself an Ls series (late 90's) with 27k miles and called it a day.
or you can just finance a new one and have one easy monthly payment every month for the rest of your life 😂 Id rather have the old one myself.. they dont build em like they used to!
Mike Baer I know that's what I love about the old trucks man is that you don't have to be in huge dept unlike you would with a new car or truck and they'll outlast them as well.
CJ Colvin agreed.. all my freinds taking out loans on $20k used trucks and they end up in the shop half the time whereas my $2k Ranger has never ben in the shop.. and its got 240,000 racked on the odometer lol
When I was a teenager I bought a brand new Nissan Frontier 4x4 with A/C had 4 wheel ABS but power nothing, roll up windows, no power seats(had bench seat) and had lock outs the price out the door was $13,800 in 1998 and that 4 banger made 143 hp Try finding a 4x4 truck today for that full or midsize
Yes, but people want to lay the plywood flat. Clearly is not (and was not) a big deal, but this is MW we are talking about. Mr. Davis hates it when there is not an ammeter and voltmeter on the dash, something that is exceedingly rare in 2019!
The intent was to show the size of the bed, which he perfectly accomplished. How many construction workers are going to load up 20 pieces of plywood at an angle?
Roughly speaking, $10,220 in 1991 has the same buying power as $18,438 in 2017. Why then, with all of the leaps forward in automation, technologies, and engineering/production efficiencies, is the cheapest F-150 starting at $27,328? Sources: inflationdata (dot) com Ford's "build-a-truck" section at ford (dot) com
At that time, trucks were just work vehicles. Automatics, power steering, and air conditioning weren't as common as they are now. Most people didn't want them as daily transport. Demand outside of fleets and the business/farm market was low. It's when people started buying them for DDs that made them get more stylish and full of creature comfort. Demand goes up, prices go up.
What happened, trucks are so expensive now, I thought our '99 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer had a very hefty sticker price at little over $39,000. a comparable new Expedition is nearly $70,000! The new ones don't even have V8s!
Sean James my 04 expedition Eddie Bauer was $49,150 in today's money that's $63,383 so it now isn't that far off a fully loaded 2017 expedition and those have a shit ton more option than mine will ever have.
Shawn Prickett we also had an '04 Expedition Eddie Bauer, green, bought it back in '06 second hand. I agree, my comparison wasn't ideal to get my point across, would've used our '96 F150 4x4 Supercab for the comparison, but I did not buy it brand new, we no longer have the vehicle either.
Sean James my dad bought it and he still has the 04 with 145,000 miles. I have a 06 F-150 with 70K miles I'm trading up to something newer and financing it so I can have something new with no problems my f-150 has rust issues and a header leak.
Shawn Prickett our '04 only had 105,000 miles on it when we traded it, we would still have it to this day if it weren't for the passenger side rockers rusting out, you could've stuck your hand in there and move it from one end of the doors to the other. We traded it in November for a new 2017 F150 5.0 Lariat 502A Crew cab, we got $3,500 of trade in value. Oh by the way washing it by hand weekly caused water build up between the body and running boards, of course, causing the rot. Other than the rockers it was a perfect truck, like new condition. We still own the '99, it's currently a company vehicle, 450,000 miles and counting!
I used to have one of these as my first truck in high school, Mine was a solid blue XLT Lariat (top of the line for its day). Was an excellent truck and ran great! Today I have the 2011 Version of this haha.
My dream truck in high school was an F-series Super Cab with the XLT/Lariat trim & either the 302 or 351 V8 with the E40D 4-speed overdrive automatic!!!!!! AWESOME FIND!!!!!
I still have my 88 f250hd with it's 460 ci engine, 5 spd stick. Supercab, 8ft bed, 4wd. AND... My 95 f150xl 302, auto. Supercab, 7ft bed 4wd. Both run great! Both have the spring bench front seat--if you have back troubles like I do, these are THE BEST!!! I wish today's trucks were this good! I love the long, wide wheel base---they ride as smooth as a caddie! Again, a big deal if you have back trouble!!! These are some of the best pickups ever built. This coming from an ex-chevy Man!!!
Starting at $10k and fully loaded at $20k? Holy crap I wish I could buy trucks back then. Nowadays a decent loaded F150 will cost around $45k and up to $70k
I go so tired of hearing these comments that I decided to do some reserch. The truth is those $45k F-150 XLT's sale for anywhere from $12k to $15k below sticker. So that $45k truck may only cost you $30k before ttl. Upon further investigation Ford claims to not make much if anything on XL and XLT trim sales. Now you may have a legit beef with the Lariat, King Ranch, Platinum and Limited because we all know it does not cost Ford that much more money to build the upper trim F150's. But at the same time I have really been paying attention to sales here lately and the last 2016 F-150 Limited that was sold in my area sold for $10k less that sticker.
redd7188 So that means rebates back then would've taken off an additional $5k- $8k off a $10k MSRP? Damn now I really wish I could've bought a truck back in 1990.
Those F-Series trucks are legendary, I grown up in Brazil , we also had those there , then I moved to Australia in the end of the 90’s and luckily we also have them in Australia.... I love Ford trucks so much especially this era showing here , such a tough trucks and so awesomely luxurious, I’ve seen few like this one here in Australia like show room condition.... I love this motor week review thank you so much for posting. Australia 🇦🇺
2:40 “Many of the cars we tested should’ve offered this much information.... “ Ford trucks man have always been a few notches above the rest .... bless Henry Ford ...
The most comfortable vehicle seats I ever sat in were in a '91 Ford Lariat that I had as a work truck in 2000. 200,000 miles left the 302 a bit gutless on the interstate, which made it perfect for a kid just out of high school.
Man, I love this show! Can’t stop watching. Prices have gotten crazy. Car companies need to offer more affordable models of pickups these days. I’ve recently priced some new ones and forget it! Thank heaven there are plenty of good used ones out there.
I had the 94 xl model, two tone blue. It was the six with the 5 speed manual, rubber floor, hand crank windows. It came with the factory aluminum wheels and overall was a nice looking truck.
My dad bought his 89 F-150 brand new and it had that red interior with captain's chairs just like the test truck. Talk about a flood of memories. Those back seats sucked! You could get a 4 inch lift for the seat and it still sucked. Rode from Texas to Colorado when I was 8 or 9 and it was torture, haha! When I was in high school, I had a two tone silver supercab just like the one John Davis stood by in the segment intro. I miss that truck!
Yep my 88 F250 has the rear seat riser kit in it, its fine for little kids but you wouldn't want to ride back there as an adult, but the back seat in mine stays folded down and I keep work gear and coolers, tools, etc back there.
I bought a brand new 1987 F150 Lariat when I was 18. I was on top of the world. I had many trucks since then and up until I bought my 2014 GMC Sierra, it was my favorite of all the trucks I owned.
Wow, the truck in the beginning that's grey with silver is exactly like the one my dad bought new in April 1990. It was a Supercab, longbox, 4x4, 5.0, 5-speed. I remember he hated parking it because it was such a boat.
The mystery gloved-hand tester strikes again! I wonder if he is still wearing his glove in 2019? Probably makes doing anything on the touchscreen display very difficult!
A friend in high school drove one, it had over two hundred thousand miles and we couldn't break it. With the inline 6 cylinder engine it was ridiculously slow.
Wow this brings me back. My father had one. it was blue and was a super cab with power mirrors... he used it haul us but it constantly broke down. -_- we nicknamed it Dinosaur because was big.
So funny when i see one of these old trucks today with that red interior i always think its really faded.I now notice that the red came that way when it was new.
No they were a bit brighter red when they were new, most just faded over time as all interiors do also all the wear from people sliding in and out of the vehicle and such, I kept the seat covers on mine so the seats in my 88 F250 still look new as did the seat in my 84 Ranger when I sold it in 2002. Its all in taking care of the vehicle which many seem to forget I guess because you sure see a lot of destroyed interiors even in newer vehicles :(.
I'll never forget seeing the "Nite" edition truck for the first time. I was a kid and thought it was something special. It wasn't nothing more than an appearance package.
My 1990 F250 diesel cost 14,000 brand new! It has held up well and has hardly rusted. Bought it 12 years ago for 1000 dollars and have had to do many repairs but now it's so reliable! I intend to restore it someday.
Damn it must have been a base model with no options to be that cheap new. My first truck in high school was a 1990 F-150 XLT Lariat and it still had the window sticker, it was stickered at nearly $17,000 dollars.
I had a 1990 F-150 2wd with the I-6 and 5 speed back in the day. It looked just like this truck but black! It was a good truck! Last I saw it, it had over 200,000 miles on it and it was full or rust.
Man do I miss that red interior. My 1992 Explorer had the same color interior and I loved it. It never seemed to fade or tear and I was not easy on that thing by any means. Always cleaned up nice and it smelled like a Ford. I don't know what it is but all old Ford's smell the same lol every time I get in one my childhood flashes back at me.
i miss them trucks 80-90 best ford trucks ever. had a 96 5.0 4x4 offroad ext cab. lots of good and bad memories. truck never let me down and i was hard on the old girl.
I have a 1995 f150 super cab with 337,600 miles on original engine and transmission. The rear axle shafts just got changed out they were factory but the rear axle gears and housing are still factory
Ford did have problems with the ABS system in the 1991 Ford trucks,ate rear brakes up.Fix was to disconnect it for good.The I beam suspensions were known for eating ball joints and front tires.The auto locking hubs in the 4x4 models were junk and exploded apart under heavy off roading.Most basically took them off throwing them away replacing them with Warn manual locking hubs.The 5 speed manuals in them,were known for leaking on top and most oil change places never checked the fluid levels in them.
I disconnected the RABS in my 88 Ford Bronco 2 as well, problem solved LOL. Didn't know about the manual transmission leak issue but my 88 F250 has a 3 speed automatic. Have never had ball joint issues with my F250 and its served most of its life pulling trailers.
I put a steering stabilizer and poly bushings on my 1990 2wd F 150 made a huge difference in handling plus my 1991 F250 2wd 460 has 131,000 miles never had the ball joints replaced still drives great!!Might be more of an issue on 4wd
Just finished puttin a starter in my old 1990 with 160,000 Kilometers. These old trucks are nice.but they start to nickel and dime ya when they get this old. But I luv it.
I could go buy a new truck, but I'm currently looking for a 90's F150 instead! A real truck, simple, basic, and reliable. Can still work on it in my driveway without too much hassle, and it looks better than anything made today! The pickup truck died with the 90's, everything made since then just looks like a melted chocolate bar and is priced like a Lexus.
It just hurts me knowing I can’t own one of these trucks new. Second owner of a 94 2wd inline 6, 188k, still have the warranty card and window sticker, 13k
I have a 1990 I6 5 spd standard cab 2 wd has 251,000 and some change damn near zero rust stats up everytime never a engine/tranny issue brakes, fuel pump sure engine never
Keep the fluids changed, keep it tuned up, keep up with the brakes, steering/suspension, and wash it every once in awhile, and yeah, it'll last you forever. I've seen many 4.9s go beyond 300k w/o ever having to come apart. When Ford switched to MPFI for their 4.9s, they had a real turn key work horse there, even if it only had 145hp...
Impeccable piece of machinery. Strong trucks with very nice engines. The 300 was and still is the most indestructible six-cylinder in the history of the world. As long as the oil pumps don't eat the windsors and Cleveland's they will pretty much last the amount of time the frame will on the truck. The 351 had a record amount of torque for that time. These are real trucks not the abysmal things they're building now.
A 2018 extended cab F150 makes this version look like a tiny toy. Trucks now are physically larger than their older counterparts. No way John Davis' head reaches level with the top of the F150 now. Hell, you're lucky if you can reach objects in the bed from the side!
This is true,my wife is 5 ft 2 in and has to struggle to climb into my 2001 F150. She's had back surgery which causes her to have pain everytime she has to get into my truck. I'm really considering trading for a 1990 F150 Lariat that's for sale here in my home town.
I did my research. A 1991 F150 Lariat that costs $13,323 (taxes and fees are unknown) in 1990 (when the model year started), adjusted for inflation in 2018 costs $25,390. A 2019 F150 Lariat with all the same features (or similar) costs $46,475, not including taxes, fees etc. There are several reasons why cars cost so much more. For one, they're loaded down with so much infotainment in order to boost the price and increase the level of perceived value (more features=more value, or so the thinking goes). For another, they use more expensive materials which also require more complex manufacturing techniques. A 2019 F150 has a welded aluminium body, fully boxed steel frame, aluminium suspension, engine block, transmission, dual over-head cams, (all of which are electronically controlled), etc, etc. In contrast, a 1991 F150 has a stamped/welded steel C-Frame (which is substantially weaker), all of the suspension components are cast iron, the engine and transmission are cast iron and the engine has a single, in-block cam. While the engine is electronically controlled, the computer is about as complex as a simple calculator and it doesn't even have to worry about the transmission or the throttle or the brakes. In short, trucks today are light-years ahead of trucks from 30 years ago. Properly maintained, new trucks will last substantially longer than a 1991 would. The key is keeping up with the maintenance and not buying a vehicle that comes equipped with so much infotainment.
Well find someone with a 2018 F150 and report back in about 30 years how that 2018 pickup is doing, probably will have long been crushed. My 88 F250 is still going strong with about 490k on the clock. Most of its life its been towing trailers, which is really hard on a vehicle but it does it all day long without any problems, and no engine or transmission issues other than regular maintenance. I don't care for all the electronic crap they've got in today's vehicles so I won't be buying anything new.
No they're engines built to fail in an already over-priced truck forcing the owner's to go farther in debt as a result of those failures...ehh Ford don't care they already got into your wallet.
@@wildbill23c Those engines are built with 2 goals, minimize emissions and maximize profit. That is not a good combo. They want you to buy a new overpriced POS in 3 years. Just like the piece of shit 4.0L SOHC in the explorer introduced in 1997. Most had a 90% failure rate and you have to pull the engine to repair. Good reason to just scrap it when it goes. Pretty powerful engine, but it wouldn't go near an F-150.
Yep, the 351 was a great engine, and arguably better than the 350 Chevy's of the day. That'll really ruffle the Chevy guys feathers, but the up until 1995 or so when GM started giving the Vortec treatment to the 350's, the 351 was the better performer and equally as reliable.
Man do I sure miss the inline 6. Had the best fuel economy and low end torque of any truck engine. But automatics were not a good pair with a 6. They tended to bog the engine down and make it get pretty bad mileage. That's why you here a lot of people ranting about the 6 getting terrible mileage. The manuals on the other hand got pretty good mileage.
you forgot a couple things, they are extremely reliable and will last forever, mine is an 89 supercab shortbed with a straight 6 and 4speed automatic, its been crank knockin for 10 years now and it just keeps going just as good as a brand new one, when its odometer rolls over again, it will be 800,000 miles. and all of this coming from a ford hater. heres the thing though, when it comes right down to it, and i need something to do some hard work, i drive my chevy pickup over to my parents place to get the old ford that just wont die, its even been totaled 15 different times, and it just keeps going, i totaled my chevy once, it stopped working.
I'll buy as many as the old toyota 1/2 ton pickups as I can. Insanely reliable with proper maintained. Enough towing capacity for myself and the best thing is its a MANUAL. Just picked one up from North Carolina, brought it back and uncoated it, fixed any surface rust I could find and coated the bed. Had a awesome fiber glass cover over it. Any new trucks, even new used ones are way to dam expensive, almost a 50 percent increase in only 10 years.
Tony Flick They are hard to find. People don't want to give them up. I just got a clean 91 2WD 5 speed for $500. The guy's son apparently thought engine oil was optional. I had a spare 22R ready to go from my 89, which I'm doing a 1UZ swap.
Would love to have the option of a NEW $13,000 full-size domestic pickup now. I'd even settle for one twice the price at $26,000 but that doesn't exist either.
i have the same truck, same year, same trim, just different engine. mines a 5.0 302. my front seat is a bench seat. and i didnt know the back seats can fold
After being out of work a few months and falling way behind, I finally found a job, and 2 weeks later I saw a 91 XL 2WD for $4,500....a week after that the price was reduced to $3,800. I was sick that I couldn't get it especially because before I was out of work, I could've bought it 3 times over
I didn’t like the looks of these 87 to 91 styles when they first came out but owned one and ended up liking it, then I didn’t like the looks of the ‘97 F150s when they came out but owned one and liked it! I still have a F150 among other vehicles today…
I remember when the F-150 was the envy of every truck driver. I always wanted one. But then they became Fusions with pickup beds. I have switched to Dodge and will never look back.
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This truck was 13,000 in 1991 which adjusted for inflation in 2018 is 23,592. But yet in 2018 for a 1500 series truck v8 well equipped runs 50,000-60,000 sad greedy world we live in.
that being said, think about what a “fully equipped” truck was back in the day. it meant AC, ABS, maybe an airbag, a better powertrain and tow rating, and bucket seats. the base level trucks today come with all that and more as standard, so really a base level truck today is about what a top tier truck would have been back in the day. doesn’t excuse how much they’re charging for a base truck (if you can even find one)
@@johnclark6139 I miss the trucks and how they were back then. Nothing you didn’t need or want, tastefully designed, MUCH more affordable, in quite a few ways more robust, less to go wrong and break, and oh how I miss real wheels and tires. More side wall for a better ride, didn’t have to constantly worry about scraping the wheels off of pretty much everything, and much much cheaper! Oh and have to add that anything bigger than a 17 or 18” wheel on a pickup looks so goofy. Like it’s some life size Hot Wheels haha
Nah, gimme a 16 or 17 at most
And a 15 is plenty on older trucks
But the main thing is all the shit on trucks today that most will never use but you can’t get one without it.
All this electronic drive mode, park sensor, traction control, auto stop start, lane assist, auto braking BS that is adding nearby $10,000 to the base price of a truck. And most of that stuff is shit that many will never need nor use.
Dont ya just love wasting thousands upon thousands of dollars?
I think I’d rather find a good used 90s Ford (especially one with the 300 six)
@@johnclark6139 thats the problem. People who actually use trucks don't need anything fancy.
And don't forget they are over computerizing the crap out of everything in vehicles and that is really blowing up in their faces with these chip shortages. Now the windshield wipers are controlled by a computer module. Were we suffering back in the '80s and 90s with the basic electronic or mechanically controlled wipers? It's really ridiculous. Before long there will be a computer module just to pop open the fuel lid, if there isn't already. That stuff really adds up. I don't like any of that crap because it's all destined to tear up and it's all going to cost you extra money.
We can make excuses why they are now so expensive but the real reason they are so expensive is because idiots will pay it.
I'm a GM guy and I still say that Ford made damn good trucks from the 70's to the 90's. Now nobody makes a good simple dependable truck that won't rust to shit in 15 years. The truck shown here in standard cab with the XLT package a 5-speed, 4X4 and the 300 I-6 or 302/351 with modern fuel injection would sell like crazy today. Bet on it!
GM here too. Hard to argue with older ford trucks. Their doors actually shut and the seats don’t disintegrate. Ford trucks of 69-91 imo are better than GM but I prefer GM motors. Especially the LS over coyote.
The good old days when trucks were basic and affordable...20K fully loaded and available with a 7.3liter diesel that would reliably go 400K miles😳
I have never seen an F150 with the diesel engine...don't think that was actually an option, it was when you stepped up to the F250 but I don't recall it ever being an option in the F150's.
When adjusted for inflation, a comparable new truck will actually be cheaper. Besides that, it will also be safer and cleaner running.
*"When adjusted for inflation, a comparable new truck will actually be cheaper."*
Um, ORLY, Felix? You got the math on that one handy? The truck was sold in 1991 (or late 90), and cost $13,323 for an XLT Lariat Supercab.
Ball's in your court...
+William Todd
Video says you could, but I question the wisdom of putting such a capable work engine in a half-ton. You'd be limited by the GVWR and tow rating far more so than the engine; with the Diesel being heavier, it would actually haul less (legally) than even the I-6 gasser!
If you'd "spring" for the Diesel, it would make sense to pay "a few dollars more" and get a 3/4 ton, at least. Unless they had an unloved F150 w/ 7.3IDI on the dealer's lot, and were letting it go super cheap!
+bcubed72 Yes, even though this is called the "Lariat", it's actually very basic by today's standards, more basic than even the base model 2017 F150 in most ways. This truck doesn't even have powered mirrors or full airbags, and most certainly doesn't comply with any of today's emissions or crash standards. Beside that, it doesn't even have the capability of even the base V6 F150. And when adjusted for inflation, $15,785 = $28,232.55 in 2017. That actually makes it more expensive.
Today's trucks have tripled in price since the early '90s. But the average U.S. income hasn't. There is your problem. It's gotten out of control.
You need to factor in inflation. So 10 grand back then will be closer to 30 grand in today's money
Yup. Was at the Toyota dealership today and a loaded trd pro Tacoma is 60k! WTF? An SL 500 loaded Mercedes Benz was that in the 90s. I can't afford new anymore. Had a new 93 Z71 GMC extra cab loaded 23,900
Womb Raider
I’d rather find an older truck and even work on it a bit if needed. You can’t get a new one in manual
@Womb Raider sticker to sticker since we don't know what negotiations there were.
@@TheScrubmuffin69 still a factory worker in the 80s- 90s made 15-20+ per hour. Same ppl in the 2000s made much less. Factory worker today is lucky to get $15per hour now. My mother made about $16/ hr in the early 90s same position pays LESS now 20 years after she left. Only low income jobs went up
Man, that Ford Nite still looks good today!
When I was a kid, I always liked this particular iteration of the F-150 SuperCab. It looked tough, but not overly so. Plus, I still see them on the road over 20 years later, still looking great. I see more of the 92-96 SuperCabs, but I still smile a little when I see one of these still on the highway.
By far my favorite body style! Simple, reliable, affordable. I admired the modern tech packed in the news ones but you just can't beat these old workhorses!
I love this body style of F-Series, 1987 and 1988 is my favorite
This bodstyle of Ford F Series is my favorirte, 87 and 88
87-91 ford trucks/bronco- that bucket seat interior plus that particular dash/windshied angle made for IMO the most comfortable truck Ford has ever made. You sit upright, everything is easy to see, outside and in. Everything is easy to reach, radio, etc. Doors were still close enough to the seat you could hang your arm out the window if you wanted. And lets not forget the long lost triangle vent windows. As the video mentions, the engines were suitable for the time, and reliable. The brakes were good, for a truck, for the period. Go look up some late 80's Chev/GMC reviews to see what the competitions brakes were like(the K5 Blazer would put you in the ditch with hard braking) 91 was also the very last year of the solid frame f150. 92 introduced a body style refresh and a crumple frame, along with a significant interior revision. To all the people ranting about engine HP, this truck had a curb weight of about 3900 lbs. That is actually less than a 2017 Ford Taurus. It's only about 150lbs more than a 2017 Honda Accord. They are trucks. The Ford small blocks can easily add 100HP with aftermarket bolt ons, without touching the short block, just by putting some more modern design heads and cams on, and will be 100% daily driver friendly and maintain most of it's fuel economy, in some cases improving it. Funny what 25 years of technology advancemt can do.
I miss the vent windows. They were awesome!
So very true, also the HP and torque ratings were downplayed in these trucks for insurance reasons so what people see on paper isn't really what they were capable of. I have the 88 F250 4x4 XLT Lariat Supercab with the 7.5L 460 V8, still going strong as is the 3 speed automatic transmission and that truck has spent most of its live towing/hauling, currently the odometer is at a little over 490k. Haven't done any engine or transmission work other than regular maintenance and transmission serviced very 35k.
Wouldn't want one of the new trucks at all.
I daily drive my 1995 super cab f150 with the original 5.0 it has as of right now 336,200 miles on it. I have owed it since 2007 had a many person try to buy it I will never sell it
that 4.9 l straight six was a great engine
It as also known as the 300 CID straight 6 came out in 1961. Came out after Chrysler 225 slant 6 in 1959 which was used always up until 1988. The 225 Slant six (3.9L) was used in the Dakota always until its demise in 2009 I think was alright but not as good as the cast iron 225 slant 6.
Mine still is. I have a 1993 F150 XL with a 4.9 5 spd,will flat out pull and outlast my 2001 F150 Supercrew 4.6 Liter Automatic.
@@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 i have a 94 4.9 5 speed. Its an awesome truck.
Oh I agree. Coupled with the 5 speed manual it was great! Mine was a 1990 and I am sorry I let it go.
Leo Durocher Had one in my 1996 F-150 I just sold. She was gutless, but took quite a beating.
A much appreciated upload! That "Nite" edition F-150 is deliciously 90's
Would love to own one
@@oliverdelgado6952 i wonder how many are still around
I love this F150 Nite, beautifull truck
Same type now days will cost you $50k. No lie. I just looked the other day. Welp, looks like ima buying used forever.
Slug Jones yup my uncle looked at a pick up with some options...he died whey they told him $70k not included final fees and taxes xD.
bought himself an Ls series (late 90's) with 27k miles and called it a day.
or you can just finance a new one and have one easy monthly payment every month for the rest of your life 😂 Id rather have the old one myself.. they dont build em like they used to!
my dad had a 1992 F150 Custom 4.9 I6 with the stick, regular cab.. loved that damn truck it was a bull.. lots of torque and never let us down
Mike Baer I know that's what I love about the old trucks man is that you don't have to be in huge dept unlike you would with a new car or truck and they'll outlast them as well.
CJ Colvin agreed.. all my freinds taking out loans on $20k used trucks and they end up in the shop half the time whereas my $2k Ranger has never ben in the shop.. and its got 240,000 racked on the odometer lol
V8 power, 4-wheel drive, simple, no-nonsense interior... This is the way a truck ought to be.
$60,000 luxury trucks are a disgrace.
*like a god neighbor state farm is there*
AtomicGamingSnake *good
computerguy5437 -- I guess being called "god" ain't too bad, either. hehe
When I was a teenager I bought a brand new Nissan Frontier 4x4 with A/C had 4 wheel ABS but power nothing, roll up windows, no power seats(had bench seat) and had lock outs the price out the door was $13,800 in 1998 and that 4 banger made 143 hp Try finding a 4x4 truck today for that full or midsize
Why don't you buy a horse and wagon.
he still could've carried that plywood with the tailgate closed if he put it on an angle
Yes, but people want to lay the plywood flat. Clearly is not (and was not) a big deal, but this is MW we are talking about. Mr. Davis hates it when there is not an ammeter and voltmeter on the dash, something that is exceedingly rare in 2019!
The intent was to show the size of the bed, which he perfectly accomplished.
How many construction workers are going to load up 20 pieces of plywood at an angle?
The 5.8 was dependable but sure loved gas......the prices sure are jaw dropping, especially compared to present day- wow!
Yeah,the 5.0 was a better option for a balance of power and mpg.
Dude the 7.5 was worse 😂😂😂
Could be worse try daily driving one now a days
idk what you are talking about. i get 17-19 on the highway with the 5.8
Great trucks. I still see lots of these still in use.
Same here, in Argentina you see them everywhere
Roughly speaking, $10,220 in 1991 has the same buying power as $18,438 in 2017. Why then, with all of the leaps forward in automation, technologies, and engineering/production efficiencies, is the cheapest F-150 starting at $27,328?
Sources:
inflationdata (dot) com
Ford's "build-a-truck" section at ford (dot) com
Kcducttaper1 safety stuff also. I would love a decent older truck.
At that time, trucks were just work vehicles. Automatics, power steering, and air conditioning weren't as common as they are now. Most people didn't want them as daily transport. Demand outside of fleets and the business/farm market was low. It's when people started buying them for DDs that made them get more stylish and full of creature comfort. Demand goes up, prices go up.
Because of all the stupid electronic dash and stuff. Also they insist on having a slushbox in them
AC, automatic transmission, safety equpment, aluminum body emissions.
Hahaha lol at inflation in 2017
What happened, trucks are so expensive now, I thought our '99 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer had a very hefty sticker price at little over $39,000. a comparable new Expedition is nearly $70,000! The new ones don't even have V8s!
Sean James the 39k is 57k in today's money. Still though new cars are getting pretty expensive.
Sean James my 04 expedition Eddie Bauer was $49,150 in today's money that's $63,383 so it now isn't that far off a fully loaded 2017 expedition and those have a shit ton more option than mine will ever have.
Shawn Prickett we also had an '04 Expedition Eddie Bauer, green, bought it back in '06 second hand. I agree, my comparison wasn't ideal to get my point across, would've used our '96 F150 4x4 Supercab for the comparison, but I did not buy it brand new, we no longer have the vehicle either.
Sean James my dad bought it and he still has the 04 with 145,000 miles. I have a 06 F-150 with 70K miles I'm trading up to something newer and financing it so I can have something new with no problems my f-150 has rust issues and a header leak.
Shawn Prickett our '04 only had 105,000 miles on it when we traded it, we would still have it to this day if it weren't for the passenger side rockers rusting out, you could've stuck your hand in there and move it from one end of the doors to the other.
We traded it in November for a new 2017 F150 5.0 Lariat 502A Crew cab, we got $3,500 of trade in value.
Oh by the way washing it by hand weekly caused water build up between the body and running boards, of course, causing the rot. Other than the rockers it was a perfect truck, like new condition.
We still own the '99, it's currently a company vehicle, 450,000 miles and counting!
I used to have one of these as my first truck in high school, Mine was a solid blue XLT Lariat (top of the line for its day). Was an excellent truck and ran great! Today I have the 2011 Version of this haha.
My dream truck in high school was an F-series Super Cab with the XLT/Lariat trim & either the 302 or 351 V8 with the E40D 4-speed overdrive automatic!!!!!! AWESOME FIND!!!!!
Such a good looking truck......wish they still had this appearance
Yes i know!! Bricknose forever!!
F250 plat in black is a monster but the price tag is 100k
Totally agree brother.
I still have my 88 f250hd with it's 460 ci engine, 5 spd stick. Supercab, 8ft bed, 4wd.
AND...
My 95 f150xl 302, auto. Supercab, 7ft bed 4wd.
Both run great! Both have the spring bench front seat--if you have back troubles like I do, these are THE BEST!!!
I wish today's trucks were this good!
I love the long, wide wheel base---they ride as smooth as a caddie! Again, a big deal if you have back trouble!!!
These are some of the best pickups ever built. This coming from an ex-chevy Man!!!
Starting at $10k and fully loaded at $20k? Holy crap I wish I could buy trucks back then. Nowadays a decent loaded F150 will cost around $45k and up to $70k
Sinister yeah and a guy working in a mill or on an assembly line could support his family without his wife also working....
I go so tired of hearing these comments that I decided to do some reserch. The truth is those $45k F-150 XLT's sale for anywhere from $12k to $15k below sticker. So that $45k truck may only cost you $30k before ttl. Upon further investigation Ford claims to not make much if anything on XL and XLT trim sales. Now you may have a legit beef with the Lariat, King Ranch, Platinum and Limited because we all know it does not cost Ford that much more money to build the upper trim F150's. But at the same time I have really been paying attention to sales here lately and the last 2016 F-150 Limited that was sold in my area sold for $10k less that sticker.
redd7188 So that means rebates back then would've taken off an additional $5k- $8k off a $10k MSRP? Damn now I really wish I could've bought a truck back in 1990.
what would you be willing to pay for a pickup today?
a base f150 today with inflation is similar in price to this base model f150
I had forgotten about those Nite trucks...almost a precursor to the Lightning?
Those F-Series trucks are legendary, I grown up in Brazil , we also had those there , then I moved to Australia in the end of the 90’s and luckily we also have them in Australia.... I love Ford trucks so much especially this era showing here , such a tough trucks and so awesomely luxurious, I’ve seen few like this one here in Australia like show room condition....
I love this motor week review thank you so much for posting.
Australia 🇦🇺
2:40 “Many of the cars we tested should’ve offered this much information.... “ Ford trucks man have always been a few notches above the rest .... bless Henry Ford ...
Nice retro review as always Motorweek. I love the reviews coming every Thursday
WD WILL DESTROY YOU
The most comfortable vehicle seats I ever sat in were in a '91 Ford Lariat that I had as a work truck in 2000.
200,000 miles left the 302 a bit gutless on the interstate, which made it perfect for a kid just out of high school.
my dad had one of these! i remember when first got out the dealer. loved that new truck smell.
Man, I love this show! Can’t stop watching.
Prices have gotten crazy. Car companies need to offer more affordable models of pickups these days. I’ve recently priced some new ones and forget it! Thank heaven there are plenty of good used ones out there.
I had the 94 xl model, two tone blue. It was the six with the 5 speed manual, rubber floor, hand crank windows. It came with the factory aluminum wheels and overall was a nice looking truck.
How does this early 90's pickup have virtually zero nose dive? That's pretty darn baffling and amazing at the same time!
My dad bought his 89 F-150 brand new and it had that red interior with captain's chairs just like the test truck. Talk about a flood of memories. Those back seats sucked! You could get a 4 inch lift for the seat and it still sucked. Rode from Texas to Colorado when I was 8 or 9 and it was torture, haha!
When I was in high school, I had a two tone silver supercab just like the one John Davis stood by in the segment intro. I miss that truck!
Yep my 88 F250 has the rear seat riser kit in it, its fine for little kids but you wouldn't want to ride back there as an adult, but the back seat in mine stays folded down and I keep work gear and coolers, tools, etc back there.
Ive owned 2 of these. An 89 short bed reg cab and a 91 long bed reg cab. Both 4x2 with 5.0 AOD. Good durable trucks for work, farm, or play.
I bought a brand new 1987 F150 Lariat when I was 18. I was on top of the world. I had many trucks since then and up until I bought my 2014 GMC Sierra, it was my favorite of all the trucks I owned.
so that's what that old engine looked like new! I love these retro reviews!
"Quality is Job 1" motto was accurate for the F-series
It truly is amazing how much better trucks are today. So much more capable and nice
I am building an '88 ford reg cab long box to Nite specs. Thanks for providing content of how my truck should look like
Wow first time I hear about the Nite edition. Never seen one on the road. This is awesome MW!
31 years later, F-150 still leading in sales.
Wow, the truck in the beginning that's grey with silver is exactly like the one my dad bought new in April 1990. It was a Supercab, longbox, 4x4, 5.0, 5-speed. I remember he hated parking it because it was such a boat.
1990 F150 regular cab 302 auto was my first vehical I loved that truck.
I love watching these old videos.
The mystery gloved-hand tester strikes again! I wonder if he is still wearing his glove in 2019? Probably makes doing anything on the touchscreen display very difficult!
My God but I miss REAL pickups.
Seth Thomas Ford needs to bring back this old body like they did with the ford mustang and dodge with the challenger.
I still have my 94 f150 5.0L
I have a 1996 Ford F150 with a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 with 209,000 miles and still going strong.
A friend in high school drove one, it had over two hundred thousand miles and we couldn't break it. With the inline 6 cylinder engine it was ridiculously slow.
Wow this brings me back. My father had one. it was blue and was a super cab with power mirrors... he used it haul us but it constantly broke down. -_- we nicknamed it Dinosaur because was big.
Back when trucks were trucks! Now it's just hi tech and confusing.
I remember how "modern" this truck looked when this body style first came out. Times change.
So funny when i see one of these old trucks today with that red interior i always think its really faded.I now notice that the red came that way when it was new.
No they were a bit brighter red when they were new, most just faded over time as all interiors do also all the wear from people sliding in and out of the vehicle and such, I kept the seat covers on mine so the seats in my 88 F250 still look new as did the seat in my 84 Ranger when I sold it in 2002. Its all in taking care of the vehicle which many seem to forget I guess because you sure see a lot of destroyed interiors even in newer vehicles :(.
3:34 the nite may have looked like any other paint and body package back then but it sure it's beautiful today!
I'll never forget seeing the "Nite" edition truck for the first time. I was a kid and thought it was something special. It wasn't nothing more than an appearance package.
Did you miss the part where the said it has custom suspension..?
'92 to '96 body style was my favourite F-series
I have an '89 F-250 and love it. Wish I was able to experience it new but oh well.
I had a 1989 ext cab with the legendary inline 4.9 very solid and dependable pick ups ford ever made!
0:34 damm this is the SHORT wheelbase version of the truck?? damn i miss the 80s/90s😭🤣😭
Just got a 1990 ford f-150 supercab for just $2,000. Love it
My 1990 F250 diesel cost 14,000 brand new! It has held up well and has hardly rusted. Bought it 12 years ago for 1000 dollars and have had to do many repairs but now it's so reliable! I intend to restore it someday.
Damn it must have been a base model with no options to be that cheap new. My first truck in high school was a 1990 F-150 XLT Lariat and it still had the window sticker, it was stickered at nearly $17,000 dollars.
I have a 91 XLT Lariat that my Dad bought brand new, 200,000 miles and still runs like a champ
I had an loaded 87' and it was a GREAT truck.
I had a 1990 F-150 2wd with the I-6 and 5 speed back in the day. It looked just like this truck but black! It was a good truck! Last I saw it, it had over 200,000 miles on it and it was full or rust.
Man do I miss that red interior. My 1992 Explorer had the same color interior and I loved it. It never seemed to fade or tear and I was not easy on that thing by any means. Always cleaned up nice and it smelled like a Ford. I don't know what it is but all old Ford's smell the same lol every time I get in one my childhood flashes back at me.
When trucks were trucks!!
MotorWeek added a new Retro Review = best Monday ever.
i miss them trucks 80-90 best ford trucks ever. had a 96 5.0 4x4 offroad ext cab. lots of good and bad memories. truck never let me down and i was hard on the old girl.
I’m on love with that clean engine bay
Looks like this truck might not have had the "handling package" which gave front and rear sway bars. The rear bar is quite visible from behind.
I have a 1995 f150 super cab with 337,600 miles on original engine and transmission. The rear axle shafts just got changed out they were factory but the rear axle gears and housing are still factory
I've always liked those old F-150's
Ford did have problems with the ABS system in the 1991 Ford trucks,ate rear brakes up.Fix was to disconnect it for good.The I beam suspensions were known for eating ball joints and front tires.The auto locking hubs in the 4x4 models were junk and exploded apart under heavy off roading.Most basically took them off throwing them away replacing them with Warn manual locking hubs.The 5 speed manuals in them,were known for leaking on top and most oil change places never checked the fluid levels in them.
I disconnected the RABS in my 88 Ford Bronco 2 as well, problem solved LOL. Didn't know about the manual transmission leak issue but my 88 F250 has a 3 speed automatic. Have never had ball joint issues with my F250 and its served most of its life pulling trailers.
I put a steering stabilizer and poly bushings on my 1990 2wd F 150 made a huge difference in handling plus my 1991 F250 2wd 460 has 131,000 miles never had the ball joints replaced still drives great!!Might be more of an issue on 4wd
Adjusted for inflation the entry would be 19k and specced out would be only 38k today. Messed up how expensive vehicles have gotten.
If you have that truck with no mikes today it would be 100k lol
Just finished puttin a starter in my old 1990 with 160,000
Kilometers. These old trucks are nice.but they start to nickel and dime ya when they get this old.
But I luv it.
Until now, I didn't know there was a night edition F series truck. I now have something new to look for while browsing for things for sale.
I could go buy a new truck, but I'm currently looking for a 90's F150 instead! A real truck, simple, basic, and reliable. Can still work on it in my driveway without too much hassle, and it looks better than anything made today! The pickup truck died with the 90's, everything made since then just looks like a melted chocolate bar and is priced like a Lexus.
And still better quality than a Motorweek video from 2012!
It just hurts me knowing I can’t own one of these trucks new. Second owner of a 94 2wd inline 6, 188k, still have the warranty card and window sticker, 13k
The 7.3 diesel was offered in the F-150??? I never knew.
Good catch!
Back in the day when real work trucks were built you could afford.
Esta pickup es la mejor de la serie F-150 muy bonita .
This is identical to the truck I learned to drive on as an 8 year old in the pasture behind our house.
He's right, Ford is celebrating 40 straight years of the best selling line of trucks now in 2017. The Best Never Rest.
Nick C And it's still not resting . . . best seller for 42 years now. (1/26/19)
And 43 years best selling truck! 09/01/2020
Thanks motorweek
Still see em around, never owned one but they look like good workhorses
I have a 1990 I6 5 spd standard cab 2 wd has 251,000 and some change damn near zero rust stats up everytime never a engine/tranny issue brakes, fuel pump sure engine never
Michael Lightner Damn you!You got the one truck chassis Ford decided to galvanize. Mine's got plenty of aerodynamic points of interest AND runs well.
Dude she just will not die
Keep the fluids changed, keep it tuned up, keep up with the brakes, steering/suspension, and wash it every once in awhile, and yeah, it'll last you forever. I've seen many 4.9s go beyond 300k w/o ever having to come apart. When Ford switched to MPFI for their 4.9s, they had a real turn key work horse there, even if it only had 145hp...
I run full synthetic Mobil 1 every 4k
I wasn't expecting to see the Nite, I had a '92 standard cab flareside boy I miss that truck.
3:53 makes me wonder how many CHevy and GMC C/K series sold that year?
Impeccable piece of machinery. Strong trucks with very nice engines. The 300 was and still is the most indestructible six-cylinder in the history of the world. As long as the oil pumps don't eat the windsors and Cleveland's they will pretty much last the amount of time the frame will on the truck. The 351 had a record amount of torque for that time. These are real trucks not the abysmal things they're building now.
Nope it’s the 302 EFI V8 like my 91 f150 custom regular cab
FORD: For On Road Duty....Forever! 🤗
I want to go back...
A 2018 extended cab F150 makes this version look like a tiny toy. Trucks now are physically larger than their older counterparts. No way John Davis' head reaches level with the top of the F150 now. Hell, you're lucky if you can reach objects in the bed from the side!
This is true,my wife is 5 ft 2 in and has to struggle to climb into my 2001 F150. She's had back surgery which causes her to have pain everytime she has to get into my truck. I'm really considering trading for a 1990 F150 Lariat that's for sale here in my home town.
I did my research. A 1991 F150 Lariat that costs $13,323 (taxes and fees are unknown) in 1990 (when the model year started), adjusted for inflation in 2018 costs $25,390. A 2019 F150 Lariat with all the same features (or similar) costs $46,475, not including taxes, fees etc.
There are several reasons why cars cost so much more. For one, they're loaded down with so much infotainment in order to boost the price and increase the level of perceived value (more features=more value, or so the thinking goes). For another, they use more expensive materials which also require more complex manufacturing techniques. A 2019 F150 has a welded aluminium body, fully boxed steel frame, aluminium suspension, engine block, transmission, dual over-head cams, (all of which are electronically controlled), etc, etc.
In contrast, a 1991 F150 has a stamped/welded steel C-Frame (which is substantially weaker), all of the suspension components are cast iron, the engine and transmission are cast iron and the engine has a single, in-block cam. While the engine is electronically controlled, the computer is about as complex as a simple calculator and it doesn't even have to worry about the transmission or the throttle or the brakes.
In short, trucks today are light-years ahead of trucks from 30 years ago. Properly maintained, new trucks will last substantially longer than a 1991 would. The key is keeping up with the maintenance and not buying a vehicle that comes equipped with so much infotainment.
Well find someone with a 2018 F150 and report back in about 30 years how that 2018 pickup is doing, probably will have long been crushed. My 88 F250 is still going strong with about 490k on the clock. Most of its life its been towing trailers, which is really hard on a vehicle but it does it all day long without any problems, and no engine or transmission issues other than regular maintenance.
I don't care for all the electronic crap they've got in today's vehicles so I won't be buying anything new.
@@wildbill23c I agree. The 3V engines and the ecoboost aren't exactly lifetime engines. 302s could outlast their owner and are very easy to repair.
No they're engines built to fail in an already over-priced truck forcing the owner's to go farther in debt as a result of those failures...ehh Ford don't care they already got into your wallet.
@@wildbill23c Those engines are built with 2 goals, minimize emissions and maximize profit. That is not a good combo. They want you to buy a new overpriced POS in 3 years.
Just like the piece of shit 4.0L SOHC in the explorer introduced in 1997. Most had a 90% failure rate and you have to pull the engine to repair. Good reason to just scrap it when it goes. Pretty powerful engine, but it wouldn't go near an F-150.
Man those 5.8 Windsor are bulletproof when they are well taken care off. Those old ford trucks where real work trucks.
Yep, the 351 was a great engine, and arguably better than the 350 Chevy's of the day. That'll really ruffle the Chevy guys feathers, but the up until 1995 or so when GM started giving the Vortec treatment to the 350's, the 351 was the better performer and equally as reliable.
Man do I sure miss the inline 6. Had the best fuel economy and low end torque of any truck engine. But automatics were not a good pair with a 6. They tended to bog the engine down and make it get pretty bad mileage. That's why you here a lot of people ranting about the 6 getting terrible mileage. The manuals on the other hand got pretty good mileage.
you forgot a couple things, they are extremely reliable and will last forever, mine is an 89 supercab shortbed with a straight 6 and 4speed automatic, its been crank knockin for 10 years now and it just keeps going just as good as a brand new one, when its odometer rolls over again, it will be 800,000 miles. and all of this coming from a ford hater. heres the thing though, when it comes right down to it, and i need something to do some hard work, i drive my chevy pickup over to my parents place to get the old ford that just wont die, its even been totaled 15 different times, and it just keeps going, i totaled my chevy once, it stopped working.
I'll buy as many as the old toyota 1/2 ton pickups as I can. Insanely reliable with proper maintained. Enough towing capacity for myself and the best thing is its a MANUAL. Just picked one up from North Carolina, brought it back and uncoated it, fixed any surface rust I could find and coated the bed. Had a awesome fiber glass cover over it. Any new trucks, even new used ones are way to dam expensive, almost a 50 percent increase in only 10 years.
Tony Flick They are hard to find. People don't want to give them up. I just got a clean 91 2WD 5 speed for $500. The guy's son apparently thought engine oil was optional. I had a spare 22R ready to go from my 89, which I'm doing a 1UZ swap.
Ryno5150 plus most have rotted away. Good trucks just cant keep rust away.
Tony Flick it7
What toyota 1/2 ton did you find? Must be an early model Tundra?
Would love to have the option of a NEW $13,000 full-size domestic pickup now. I'd even settle for one twice the price at $26,000 but that doesn't exist either.
i have the same truck, same year, same trim, just different engine. mines a 5.0 302. my front seat is a bench seat. and i didnt know the back seats can fold
After being out of work a few months and falling way behind, I finally found a job, and 2 weeks later I saw a 91 XL 2WD for $4,500....a week after that the price was reduced to $3,800. I was sick that I couldn't get it especially because before I was out of work, I could've bought it 3 times over
I didn’t like the looks of these 87 to 91 styles when they first came out but owned one and ended up liking it, then I didn’t like the looks of the ‘97 F150s when they came out but owned one and liked it! I still have a F150 among other vehicles today…
I remember when the F-150 was the envy of every truck driver. I always wanted one. But then they became Fusions with pickup beds. I have switched to Dodge and will never look back.