Silly question. I I've installed a UDR for a friend and administer it via my UI account. I just about to install a Unifi express in my home. Will I ve able to administer the express through the same UI manager as I use for my friends UDR? I here there were limitations with the express but am confused with the termanolgy. Cheers
Jack, It's a shame you don't have time for more videos. In this space you're hands down one of the best guys discussing this material! If only 1 show a week, but consistent, you could be killing it! God bless my friend
It's logical that it becomes a AP when adapted to other system because it's no longer the controller, think the router capacity is not much , no comparable to dream machine
Unifi has about 6-7 gateway products Each product has its own use case. You need to pick the correct one for the job. This device is cheap and simple and designed for apartment or houses where 4 devices and external multi site controller arent needed . The udr is for slightly bigger properies where anything above 500mb internet isnt needed . The gateway lite is for multi site controller management . And the ultra is the replacement for usg3
I personally have 2 AP's in my house so I just ordered one of these. It will take the duty of AP 1 and AP 2 will be a shiny new U7 pro. That still leaves 3 devices. That's pretty crazy Imho. I wonder what all these people have as home networks. Or as homes... Because you need to have a seriously big house if 5 wifi points is not enough to cover it 😅
Hi, is it possible to use it as the controller of a mesh network where there are 2 other classic APs? In all the videos I have seen they only mention mesh functionality with other unifi expresses. Thanks
Yeah, I strongly recommend glinet as well, I've been using them for many years as my travel router. Beryl AX is good but if you plan on using wireguard and have no need for one 2.5G port, the Slate AX is also good.
Right now the only thing in my setup apart from ISP optical line modem is third party router (with no wi-fi), which then is connected to a UniFi Switch that powers CloudKey Gen2 and two Unifi AC mesh with ethernet backhaul. I don't really care about site-to-site VPN or intrusion protection to be honest, but I would like to be able to see and control client traffic. Should I go for UnifFi Express or Dream Router(€136 vs €245 here in EU)?
Hi, Did you update the UniFi OS or the UniFi Network Application? There are some people complaining about slowness after this update. Mainly for Unifi Express. Did you experience this?
I have a dream machine with 2 access points (beacon HD) & 80-90 devices. My networks sucks balls, super slow, wife complains. Any suggestions on best upgrade scenario for me, or should I be ok with that setup?
well. the only main thing missing security protection, ips and ids. I don’t mind if this come later in a software update. this would go perfect at my grandparent’s home
I haven't done much research into the express (recently found out about it) but do you have any stats on how well it handles openvpn and wireguard as a client and/or server?
I bought this for the sole point of monitoring and managing my parent's internet connection. Based on Reddit comments everyone else is doing what I'm doing: managing the parent's internet.
@MillerTecnicalServices This is probably a stupid/newbie question. If you use it as the controller only, this means that you can adopt your existing Unifi APs to it provide your wireless signal?
Good video, you keep saying that the UDR is maybe better value for the money. I was thinking about this myself. What I am asking myself is: I think I’ve read that the UDR has trouble with 1gb internet speeds. This device should have not, but is limited in many ways. What can you tell us about that? 1gb internet speeds are very common nowadays.
My only issue with items like the UDR and Unifi express and even the dream WALL is they tie your controller to an access point and you have no way of upgrading that access point. Actually love for Ubiquity to come out with a new version of the router where that dome on top is actually just a u6 lite or u7 lite when that comes out which would be removable and upgradable. Even if that means charging an extra $40-$60, that would be amazing as it means that when newer versions of Wi-Fi come out all Ubiquity needs to do is swap the access point that it ships with and anyone who owns one could simply upgrade as well.
@@unicodefox really, how precisely do you replace the built-in access point with another one? I am well aware you can add more access points. But putting 2 AP’s on top of each other is generally not a good idea. So again I ask how do you replace the existing AP built into the UDR? Or at the very least disable it?
@@magicmanchloe i'm not sure if it's different for the UDR/UX as i don't have one, but for regular Unifi devices you can just go to the WiFi network and untick any APs you don't want
@@magicmanchloewhy do you need to disable it? Give the builtin AP a different SSID. Then have any slow devices connect only to it, leaving your new devices with faster Wifi on the faster AP. Or you use the builtin AP only for a guest network. Or only for (whatever) you want kept separate. Cameras? IOT? Children? Annoying relatives?
Unfortunately, the UDR can’t really route traffic at full gigabit speed, so saying the UDR is an upgrade in all respects to the Express isn’t really true.
To me it sounds like you bought a sports car and you are now complaining why you don't have a towbar to pull a trailer and why you can't drive it off-road and on top of that you want to have 6 people in the car. --> Then you should just buy a large SUV or Truck
It boggles the mind how reviewers find the stupidest things to complain about. “You could only adopt 4?” Big effing sh$t that’s not the mission of this device. Buy a cloud key if you want that much flexibility. This is squarely aimed at home users that want something above the standard WiFi router and provides an ecosystem with many options for devices. It does what it’s supposed to do and does it well.
Ah people who don’t actually watch the video complaining clearly showing they didn’t watch past 5 minutes… almost like this entire comment gets addressed in the video. Lol
@@MillerTechnicalServiceslol, you want to walk it back. I watched almost the complete video, before commenting. You did mention the options and putting it in your tech bag (LoL), but why start off claiming these are misses by UBNT? Like everyone is looking to adopt a bunch devices? You already have 3 different offerings from the same company to accomplish the task, come on man miss me with that...
Wow, what a waste by using the crapiest hardware they could find. Did they just buy up all the unsold Apple airport expresses? They always get close, but never follow through with what customers actually want.
Silly question. I I've installed a UDR for a friend and administer it via my UI account. I just about to install a Unifi express in my home. Will I ve able to administer the express through the same UI manager as I use for my friends UDR? I here there were limitations with the express but am confused with the termanolgy. Cheers
Welcome back Jack, hope everything is going good with your family now. Really love your videos.
Jack, It's a shame you don't have time for more videos. In this space you're hands down one of the best guys discussing this material! If only 1 show a week, but consistent, you could be killing it! God bless my friend
Very nice work showing what the lil Express can and can't do, thanks Miller!
Welcome Back! Excited to see new MTS content.
Great to see a new video, Jack! I really enjoy your content and video format!
It's logical that it becomes a AP when adapted to other system because it's no longer the controller, think the router capacity is not much , no comparable to dream machine
Once you adopt the Express from UCG for example, is it possible to inherit networks already defined in UCG?
Welcome back, missed your videos!
Unifi has about 6-7 gateway products Each product has its own use case. You need to pick the correct one for the job. This device is cheap and simple and designed for apartment or houses where 4 devices and external multi site controller arent needed . The udr is for slightly bigger properies where anything above 500mb internet isnt needed . The gateway lite is for multi site controller management . And the ultra is the replacement for usg3
I personally have 2 AP's in my house so I just ordered one of these. It will take the duty of AP 1 and AP 2 will be a shiny new U7 pro. That still leaves 3 devices. That's pretty crazy Imho. I wonder what all these people have as home networks. Or as homes... Because you need to have a seriously big house if 5 wifi points is not enough to cover it 😅
Video was great, thanks for showing everything in detail, what I was missing was the wifi coverage test.
Hi, is it possible to use it as the controller of a mesh network where there are 2 other classic APs?
In all the videos I have seen they only mention mesh functionality with other unifi expresses.
Thanks
Niceeee you're back. Chantal was actually asking about you the other day we watched a few of your live stream together!
I’m thinking about getting one as a travel router
Pick up the gl.inet beryl ax. It can use Wi-Fi as its uplink to connect to hotel networks.
Yeah, I strongly recommend glinet as well, I've been using them for many years as my travel router. Beryl AX is good but if you plan on using wireguard and have no need for one 2.5G port, the Slate AX is also good.
Right now the only thing in my setup apart from ISP optical line modem is third party router (with no wi-fi), which then is connected to a UniFi Switch that powers CloudKey Gen2 and two Unifi AC mesh with ethernet backhaul. I don't really care about site-to-site VPN or intrusion protection to be honest, but I would like to be able to see and control client traffic. Should I go for UnifFi Express or Dream Router(€136 vs €245 here in EU)?
Hi, Did you update the UniFi OS or the UniFi Network Application? There are some people complaining about slowness after this update. Mainly for Unifi Express. Did you experience this?
What is missing is that IPS feature. Otherwise it would be perfect for me.
Would be nice to use one for the likes of a rv with a outdoor device to pick up the rv parks WiFi
Will it run a UniFi captive portal on a guest network like the dream machines ?
Yup. Hotspot portal is an option in the config.
I have a dream machine with 2 access points (beacon HD) & 80-90 devices. My networks sucks balls, super slow, wife complains. Any suggestions on best upgrade scenario for me, or should I be ok with that setup?
Does unifi express work with NordVPN?
So I guess I'll use this as a VPN outpost and recommend UDRs for home installs :/
Thanks for the content. Keep producing more please.
well. the only main thing missing security protection, ips and ids. I don’t mind if this come later in a software update. this would go perfect at my grandparent’s home
I haven't done much research into the express (recently found out about it) but do you have any stats on how well it handles openvpn and wireguard as a client and/or server?
In this install I am doing her full internet speed over wireguard 200 x 20
I bought this for the sole point of monitoring and managing my parent's internet connection. Based on Reddit comments everyone else is doing what I'm doing: managing the parent's internet.
I bought a UDR for my parents over a month before the Express came out 😅. Did it to manage their network.
Hi there! I have a question, can the express be used as a controller ONLY and have the wifi turned off?
Yes. When you create the SSID (or don’t) just don’t include the Unifi express built in AP from the access point group
@MillerTecnicalServices This is probably a stupid/newbie question. If you use it as the controller only, this means that you can adopt your existing Unifi APs to it provide your wireless signal?
@joerivera279 yes
Good video, you keep saying that the UDR is maybe better value for the money. I was thinking about this myself. What I am asking myself is: I think I’ve read that the UDR has trouble with 1gb internet speeds. This device should have not, but is limited in many ways. What can you tell us about that? 1gb internet speeds are very common nowadays.
My only issue with items like the UDR and Unifi express and even the dream WALL is they tie your controller to an access point and you have no way of upgrading that access point. Actually love for Ubiquity to come out with a new version of the router where that dome on top is actually just a u6 lite or u7 lite when that comes out which would be removable and upgradable. Even if that means charging an extra $40-$60, that would be amazing as it means that when newer versions of Wi-Fi come out all Ubiquity needs to do is swap the access point that it ships with and anyone who owns one could simply upgrade as well.
You can plug another Ubiquiti AP into it and have it be adopted by the onboard controller
@@unicodefox really, how precisely do you replace the built-in access point with another one? I am well aware you can add more access points. But putting 2 AP’s on top of each other is generally not a good idea. So again I ask how do you replace the existing AP built into the UDR? Or at the very least disable it?
@@magicmanchloe i'm not sure if it's different for the UDR/UX as i don't have one, but for regular Unifi devices you can just go to the WiFi network and untick any APs you don't want
@@magicmanchloewhy do you need to disable it? Give the builtin AP a different SSID. Then have any slow devices connect only to it, leaving your new devices with faster Wifi on the faster AP.
Or you use the builtin AP only for a guest network. Or only for (whatever) you want kept separate. Cameras? IOT? Children? Annoying relatives?
Seems like we are all managing everyone elses internet 😂
Welcome back
Great vid, with the fw rule you added would that not block guest traffic to their default gateway? Thank you
Holly Crap you made a video! 11 months ago and now this 11 days ago… 👍🏽, Welcome Back, I think?
Unfortunately, the UDR can’t really route traffic at full gigabit speed, so saying the UDR is an upgrade in all respects to the Express isn’t really true.
If only the dream router wasn’t out of stock. 😩
Not interested in this device due to its device adoption limitations. Thanks for the review.
Lets say you have 6 unifi cameras with a UNifi NVR and 6 Unifi APs I guess this would not work
Lucky u have a dream router just chillin in ur bag to use in the field, I can’t even buy one at msrp to use at my house…bs
To me it sounds like you bought a sports car and you are now complaining why you don't have a towbar to pull a trailer and why you can't drive it off-road and on top of that you want to have 6 people in the car. --> Then you should just buy a large SUV or Truck
Why are you hiding??
It boggles the mind how reviewers find the stupidest things to complain about. “You could only adopt 4?” Big effing sh$t that’s not the mission of this device. Buy a cloud key if you want that much flexibility. This is squarely aimed at home users that want something above the standard WiFi router and provides an ecosystem with many options for devices. It does what it’s supposed to do and does it well.
Ah people who don’t actually watch the video complaining clearly showing they didn’t watch past 5 minutes… almost like this entire comment gets addressed in the video. Lol
@@MillerTechnicalServiceslol, you want to walk it back. I watched almost the complete video, before commenting. You did mention the options and putting it in your tech bag (LoL), but why start off claiming these are misses by UBNT? Like everyone is looking to adopt a bunch devices? You already have 3 different offerings from the same company to accomplish the task, come on man miss me with that...
@IgorDeCamps the entire point of the video is that for $50 more, all the restrictions go away and you get wayyy more for your hard earned $$$
Oh AND that’s on top of the installation at the ideal scenario that the product was designed for by your own admission….
@@MillerTechnicalServices Agreed 100%
No
I don't buy this junk
Wow, what a waste by using the crapiest hardware they could find. Did they just buy up all the unsold Apple airport expresses? They always get close, but never follow through with what customers actually want.
This is a valid point tbh