I don't know if anyone would take the time to re-make this video, but it would be so greatly appreciated without the music. Thanks for making the video and making it available though.
Would have been nicer for me to be able to listen to the sound of the horse's gait without it being drowned out by the music. Thank you for getting rid of it for at least a portion of the video! Very informative.
This is great information. Thank you for sharing this! I am a new Foxtrotter owner so this is very helpful as there aren't any other owners I've run into yet.
6 years after your comment was posted, I'm wondering if, and hoping, you're journey with your M. Foxtrotter had been fabulous!!! Hope you and your horse are healthy and lovely along life's path!!
Perhaps, if the rider would move his pelvis, he would be able to sit really smooth, even square trot. When the horse trots the movement of the pelvis is an aft loop. Got curious?
Isn’t it kind of cool yet scary how we can manipulate how a horse moves sometimes just by training one incorrectly or correctly or your preferred type.
I rode Tennessee Walkers for about 20 years, had a gelding & his mother, Getting them when he was about 7 & she was already 16, She was my main ride, and passed when she was about 33-34…so I had her for 18 years, he passed away when he was about 27-28. A few years back I bought a Missouri Foxtrotter, she is a beautiful horse, I’ve had a tremendous amount of trouble trying to find a saddle to fit her, part of the reason she’s been ridden very little. Just haven’t been able to get with her & enjoy her like in did my previous TWH, Must say I miss the smooth running walk of my old horse Zazz, Short for Riley’s Pizazz, She was related to Midnight Sun a fairly well known TWH.
I wish my fox trotter was gaited :( he has the bounciest trot but one of the best canters so I’ll take it! And the bouncy ears! I love it 🥺 mine only does it into the trot not in it
You speak of the front end and the front of the saddle. The front legs are vertical pillars, weight carrying. The hind legs are a series of sharp angles, springing. Therefore, with some weight in the stirrups, the rider can be carried over the front legs, to ride above the horse with little weight on the "drive shaft" or spine. The engine is in the back. Now, unfortunately, stirrups are fitted to the western saddles further back. In an English or Australian saddle, weight can be carried almost above the front legs. Anyway, I find a horse will walk with more forward energy if the weight is not in the back of the saddle. Thank you for this detailed explanation, I had not truly understood the goal, we hardly have gaited horses in Australia, although the gene is here we have no breeds.
There is a lot of strong disagreement as to whether a "slick trot" as you call it, isn't a true fox trot. Many breeders and riders contend what the current MFTBHA calls the "slick trot" is actually the correct fox trot, rather than what is currently considered the standard by MFTBHA. Looking at earlier show films, it is clear the currently accepted standard is the mutation of the fox trot and that the "slick trot" is what the Missouri Fox Trotter was originally bred for. Frankly, I'm tired of seeing the trained, unnatural, exaggerated head bobbing of the horse and the exaggerated head movements of the riders to show they are in sync with the horse. Just my opinion, but there is a large contingent in the MFTBHA that feel the same.
Im a total noob (newbie) at this, only rode a horse twice. Never owned one except when i visited a family member in the D.R. and he "said" his white horse is now mine lol but i havent seen it since 2002. Nevertheless, i truly appreciate your opinion on this video, insightful.
The head bob drives me crazy. I have a paint mare that trots like a big cat…smooth collected and relaxed with a loose rein. The on the bit kind of riding has to be torture to horses.
I don't know..the smoothest gaited horses I have ridden have a true 4 beat rhythm..these horses lean trotty or pacey... It is 1-2..3-4 not 1-2-3-4.... Wasted knee movement only matters on a flat surface...believe me these horses will trot or pace over rougher ground
I love horses especially gaited horses but, and sorry to say this, the MO Fox Trot is one of the ugliest horse gaits I've ever seen only second to the TN Walker. That bobbing head is a hideous thing to behold and looks completely ungraceful.
you love gaited horse but hate the fox trot....hmm...im trying to figure out what you like about them then, cuz they shake their head just as much if not more when they walk. the fact that you think it looks ungraceful....most people don't associate smoothness with ungracefulness.
@krisistephens1359 I guess I should clarify. If you want to see a "graceful" gait look at the Paso Fino - no head bobbing whatsoever and certainly not that ganky looking bobbing prevalent in Fox Trotters.
I don't know if anyone would take the time to re-make this video, but it would be so greatly appreciated without the music. Thanks for making the video and making it available
though.
Horses with square trots, rough trots, or who pace are great for driving. All horses have unique talents.
Would have been nicer for me to be able to listen to the sound of the horse's gait without it being drowned out by the music. Thank you for getting rid of it for at least a portion of the video! Very informative.
Beautiful horses.
This is great information. Thank you for sharing this! I am a new Foxtrotter owner so this is very helpful as there aren't any other owners I've run into yet.
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6 years after your comment was posted, I'm wondering if, and hoping, you're journey with your M. Foxtrotter had been fabulous!!! Hope you and your horse are healthy and lovely along life's path!!
This helps a lot, thank you! My horse is fox/thoroughbred cross, but is gaited. And he does the gaits a lot.
Perhaps, if the rider would move his pelvis, he would be able to sit really smooth, even square trot. When the horse trots the movement of the pelvis is an aft loop. Got curious?
Isn’t it kind of cool yet scary how we can manipulate how a horse moves sometimes just by training one incorrectly or correctly or your preferred type.
I rode Tennessee Walkers for about 20 years, had a gelding & his mother,
Getting them when he was about 7 & she was already 16,
She was my main ride, and passed when she was about 33-34…so I had her for 18 years, he passed away when he was about 27-28.
A few years back I bought a Missouri Foxtrotter, she is a beautiful horse, I’ve had a tremendous amount of trouble trying to find a saddle to fit her, part of the reason she’s been ridden very little.
Just haven’t been able to get with her & enjoy her like in did my previous TWH,
Must say I miss the smooth running walk of my old horse Zazz,
Short for Riley’s Pizazz,
She was related to Midnight Sun a fairly well known TWH.
Have you tried to find a saddle fitter? They can help you get a saddle specifically fitted for your horse.
"A hunk of meat and 2 potatoes"? Talk about! Is that the official breed standard? Love it! Thanks for this tutorial..very detailed and informative!
Is it just me or the correct fox trot horse is "headbanging" just a little too much?
Awesome video, though, thank you very much :)
Azara Rhigli they need to bob their head to move properly
No, not shaking it's head too much.
Ive seen a lot of people argue that the slick trot is the original foxtrot and the one they put forth as right isn't the correct gait
Very interesting!!!❤
to ride one is to own one!!!!
Great information!
I wish my fox trotter was gaited :( he has the bounciest trot but one of the best canters so I’ll take it! And the bouncy ears! I love it 🥺 mine only does it into the trot not in it
Great info!
Good Job Thanks
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You speak of the front end and the front of the saddle. The front legs are vertical pillars, weight carrying. The hind legs are a series of sharp angles, springing. Therefore, with some weight in the stirrups, the rider can be carried over the front legs, to ride above the horse with little weight on the "drive shaft" or spine. The engine is in the back. Now, unfortunately, stirrups are fitted to the western saddles further back. In an English or Australian saddle, weight can be carried almost above the front legs. Anyway, I find a horse will walk with more forward energy if the weight is not in the back of the saddle. Thank you for this detailed explanation, I had not truly understood the goal, we hardly have gaited horses in Australia, although the gene is here we have no breeds.
There is another diagonal gait for the gaited horse known as the Fox rack!
There is a lot of strong disagreement as to whether a "slick trot" as you call it, isn't a true fox trot. Many breeders and riders contend what the current MFTBHA calls the "slick trot" is actually the correct fox trot, rather than what is currently considered the standard by MFTBHA. Looking at earlier show films, it is clear the currently accepted standard is the mutation of the fox trot and that the "slick trot" is what the Missouri Fox Trotter was originally bred for. Frankly, I'm tired of seeing the trained, unnatural, exaggerated head bobbing of the horse and the exaggerated head movements of the riders to show they are in sync with the horse. Just my opinion, but there is a large contingent in the MFTBHA that feel the same.
I agree with you.
Im a total noob (newbie) at this, only rode a horse twice. Never owned one except when i visited a family member in the D.R. and he "said" his white horse is now mine lol but i havent seen it since 2002. Nevertheless, i truly appreciate your opinion on this video, insightful.
The head bob drives me crazy. I have a paint mare that trots like a big cat…smooth collected and relaxed with a loose rein. The on the bit kind of riding has to be torture to horses.
The point is to be smooth and sure footed - I'd think the slick trot be better for both, yes?
you need to know the march of the Mangalarga Marchador of Brazil.
And people say the Black Arabian is the superior horse. Pfft, more like superior pony. Missouri Foxtroter all day.
Is anyone else just staring at the ears and laughing xD
No
I am staring at the ears and asking myself WHY does the horse do that. It's awful.
Why the music?
So glad you said a "big lick" look would be penalized....
I don't know..the smoothest gaited horses I have ridden have a true 4 beat rhythm..these horses lean trotty or pacey... It is 1-2..3-4 not 1-2-3-4.... Wasted knee movement only matters on a flat surface...believe me these horses will trot or pace over rougher ground
I like it..but any gait is lateral..don't you kid yourself.. yeah .that sound is a single footer gait..don't be ripping off that sound
I love horses especially gaited horses but, and sorry to say this, the MO Fox Trot is one of the ugliest horse gaits I've ever seen only second to the TN Walker. That bobbing head is a hideous thing to behold and looks completely ungraceful.
you love gaited horse but hate the fox trot....hmm...im trying to figure out what you like about them then, cuz they shake their head just as much if not more when they walk. the fact that you think it looks ungraceful....most people don't associate smoothness with ungracefulness.
@krisistephens1359 I guess I should clarify. If you want to see a "graceful" gait look at the Paso Fino - no head bobbing whatsoever and certainly not that ganky looking bobbing prevalent in Fox Trotters.