'Do you think people who voted Leave are thick?' - BBC Newsnight

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2016
  • The town of Boston, Lincolnshire voted 80-20 to leave the EU; Lambeth, London voted 80-20 to remain. Emily Maitlis brought voters from both places together to discuss their decision - and what the way forward should be for the UK.
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  • @pauldilley8974
    @pauldilley8974 3 роки тому +7

    Not all leavers are thick. All thick people are leavers though.

  • @essaweb
    @essaweb 3 роки тому +64

    Well, this aged well.

  • @dobythedog
    @dobythedog 3 роки тому +25

    Pitch the posh accents against the working class accents. Always a winner with the BBC.

    • @joeshimwell1269
      @joeshimwell1269 2 роки тому +4

      they aren't working class accents lol, they are just regional accents

    • @marksykes5434
      @marksykes5434 Рік тому

      But there’s the reality of it , they are thick as mince end of & that’s your average brexit voter for you , there’s reams of them where I live , they know the size of Kim Kardashian’s arse but not the capital of Belgium , it’s deliberate , it’s dumbing down & we’re doomed unless the grown ups step in soon !

  • @francistop772
    @francistop772 4 роки тому +13

    And how about the millions of British people in Spain who never bother to learn a word in Spanish, sorry I meant a word apart from ' cervesa' (which means beer).

    • @romanjimenezgil
      @romanjimenezgil 2 роки тому

      @@markohenry5891 that is not true. And it was not true in uk. In uk there is a system using the phone and in the spain doctors mostly speak english.

    • @romanjimenezgil
      @romanjimenezgil 2 роки тому +4

      @@markohenry5891 I am a GP and I worked in uk and Spain. In UK the very few who did not speak english used to go with someone who did and there was a system very simple using the phone. Never a GP had to pay to get an interpreter. In Spain I work in Costa del Sol and all of us speak english and if not we use a system very simple with the mobile. Very few come with interpreters and if so, welcome. Is what you have if you live as an emigrant. There are many myths. But I am surprised about people moving to another country and not even trying to learn it.

  • @stevehunter8596
    @stevehunter8596 2 роки тому +44

    Can we get these people together again to discuss how well they think it's all working for them?

    • @Alex-gn2rb
      @Alex-gn2rb 2 роки тому +7

      Still believing what ever their told to believe I am sure.

    • @Iazzaboyce
      @Iazzaboyce 2 роки тому +2

      It's working great - labour shortages already - that's what we voted for - more jobs for UK nationals.

    • @swanvictor887
      @swanvictor887 Рік тому

      @@Iazzaboyce 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah, right. Hear about the TEN MILLION INDIAN WORK VISAS Blowjob agreed with Modi...?

    • @dynamo0255
      @dynamo0255 Рік тому +3

      ​​@@Iazzaboyce so are you wiping arse in a care home or serving coffee then?

  • @andersbodin1551
    @andersbodin1551 2 роки тому +46

    Well now the NHS is saving tons by having a staffing shortage.

    • @MrFlatroofer
      @MrFlatroofer 2 роки тому +3

      ......and why? because we have many thousands of illegal immigrants.

    • @uktravel8341
      @uktravel8341 2 роки тому +4

      @@MrFlatroofer The illegal immigrants work full-time, and are adding to the economy. Including the money which is paying into the NHS. Not sure how you think that's causing a staff shortage.

    • @MrFlatroofer
      @MrFlatroofer 2 роки тому +1

      The illegals are not allowed to work. Only those who have immigrated legally.@@uktravel8341

    • @leeadder2105
      @leeadder2105 Рік тому

      @@uktravel8341 are you a moron they are a drain on society take your head out your a*"e and have a little walk outside your ivory tower posh boy

    • @dannytoots6635
      @dannytoots6635 9 місяців тому

      @@MrFlatroofer no, it's because we don't pay nurses enoug, we don't pay doctors enough, and also, we sent all EU workers back to the mainland, why? Because Cameron allowed millions of utter morons to make the most important political decision of this generation, and why? Because it was the only way he could cling to power. Fools.

  • @Alex-pk1iy
    @Alex-pk1iy 2 роки тому +12

    If Brexit has taught me one thing, it’s that there is a serious inability in the UK to hold an adult conversation without being offended, over-zealous or pompous. Both sides were guilty of all of the above and it’s what has created a divided and poorly run country.

    • @marksykes5434
      @marksykes5434 Рік тому +3

      Explain the benefits of brexit to me then Alex please ?

    • @jantelopez5626
      @jantelopez5626 Рік тому

      no whats worse is optimism and a lack of connecting people in emergencies .. which is the opposite of what our brains are tuned to effectively do in emergencies.. we seem to be trying not to be primates and trying to be er.. plants or something

    • @marksykes5434
      @marksykes5434 Рік тому +4

      So how do we fix it , we had bullying from leavers telling me they knew what they’d voted for &. anything else was undemocratic . My point being is it’s very hard to debate something with an intelligent person but if they are stupid it’s impossible !

    • @jantelopez5626
      @jantelopez5626 Рік тому

      @@marksykes5434 democracy requires reasoning .. if your reasoning is literally just repeating stuff you read without bothering to check anything then
      1. you don't care enough about the issue for your vote to mean anything and we might as well let kids vote
      2. the victim act is tone deaf when you have caused millions of people and future generations to lose their rights.. we have LESS rights to jobs and education .. our brexity home sec wants to start hanging people again .. we actually have in practical terms LESS FRreedoms right now..
      3. brexit also put an extremely negligent leader in power at the worst possible moment .. whose cabinet has basically gutted the civil service and not consulted any of us on what they are replacing it with. .. we know LESS about how we are governed. your elected leader killled off 100,000 british people and tried to style it out. and this attitude mirrors brexit voters attitude to any difficult questions with brexit.. fobbing it off and not bothering to actually think of solutions.
      4. beyond solutions , brexiteers cheery attitude surrounding foreign investment into misinformation around brexit is bizarrely unpatriotic.. robert mercer , putins secret service, steve bannon literally grooming boris johnson to become pm... these are significant breeches of security.. and cambridge analytica.. bunch of etonians who win elections by disrupting discourse and causing chaos... .. thats sedition.. no one has dealt with these significant occurances.. and until they do they are complicit

    • @marksykes5434
      @marksykes5434 Рік тому

      @@jantelopez5626 I’m a 59 year old socialist my friend who dosent care anymore I’m afraid . If the media can convince a large enough proportion of the dumb electorate to vote for the massively harmful brexit then in my opinion they can get them to vote for absolutely anything , until that is put right then the billionaires will continue to direct voting in their favour, it’s very depressing . We have a population that knows the size of Kim kardashians arse but dosent know the capital of Belgium !

  • @carwyndavies4507
    @carwyndavies4507 7 років тому +12

    It's called a cruel irony...

  • @FurryAminal
    @FurryAminal 7 років тому +45

    Why don't you interview the 1/3rd of graduates who voted Leave? Or would that wreck your line of Brexit=Thick?

    • @tomlinid
      @tomlinid 7 років тому +13

      Having a degree doesn't mean you are intelligent it means you are capable of retaining facts for a short period and regurgitating them to pass an exam. Intelligence is often correlated with this ability but the two don't go hand in hand.

    • @IdoruFalls
      @IdoruFalls 7 років тому +2

      as has been stated, education clearly does not equal intelligence. Look at the generally obscenely well-educated Tory party, for example. Johnson and Gove may be legitimately intelligent - many others with privileged educations are clearly not.

    • @IdoruFalls
      @IdoruFalls 7 років тому +3

      but totally agree that this interview was clearly set up to be 'slighty dowdy, weary looking people who can't pronounce certain letters properly and complain about them foreigners vs extremely punchable, overeducated city cunts who need the marbles knocked out of their mouths and some hardship to eventually fall upon them'.

    • @tomlinid
      @tomlinid 7 років тому

      Mr Wednesday
      How do you know these people from London haven't experienced hardship? I know people who talk posh and have been unemployed and homeless. How a person talks doesn't necessarily mean they are rich. I think they were lucky to find many English people from London a sizable part of the population isn't English.

    • @Darius1295
      @Darius1295 7 років тому +3

      As someone who has been to university, I can safely say it is just about passing exams and nothing else. People who have never been to university are more educated than graduates in the sense that they are more likely to think for themselves and less likely to be swayed by the prevailing wind.

  • @gurbai9730
    @gurbai9730 2 роки тому +5

    The video is a shorter version, the full version is when Angie says she wants out of the EU due to Indian immigrants.

    • @kevinwillis6707
      @kevinwillis6707 2 роки тому +3

      these turkeys voted for christmas and wonder why people call them thick..

  • @peatcakes
    @peatcakes 2 роки тому +23

    No, I've met them, I don't think they're thick I know it as fact.

  • @TheMdog8
    @TheMdog8 7 років тому +36

    "I just hope it goes forward and sorts itself out" - Oh, I'm sure it will darlin, I'm sure it will.

    • @smartychase
      @smartychase 4 роки тому +1

      Nov 2019 and we are still at it and it's messier than ever

    • @dannyboy3107
      @dannyboy3107 3 роки тому +7

      July 2020 they're going for a no deal Brexit and the whole thing was a disaster.

    • @tinkertime7165
      @tinkertime7165 3 роки тому +1

      We are out now and the world did not end. The EU have shown their colours and we are free of the shackles.

    • @steviemac42
      @steviemac42 2 роки тому +1

      Hey knob jockey, don't take the piss out the working class. You lost, you will always lose .

    • @johnmoore9862
      @johnmoore9862 2 роки тому +8

      A prime example of Dunning-Kruger ^

  • @oscarlawlor7154
    @oscarlawlor7154 3 роки тому +4

    Do you think Leavers are thick?
    Yes

  • @bobbyfinstock2021
    @bobbyfinstock2021 2 роки тому +6

    As thick as mince.

  • @krileayn
    @krileayn 7 років тому +19

    Yea we are thick, thick balls, that's why we're not scared to go it alone.

    • @hashtagboss2935
      @hashtagboss2935 7 років тому +1

      Hahaha

    • @SoulRippster
      @SoulRippster 7 років тому +1

      Not alone, you've got your buddy Wales.
      Not sure about the others though.

  • @hughtubecube
    @hughtubecube 5 років тому +39

    They are.
    Question answered.

  • @petecox5552
    @petecox5552 3 роки тому +19

    I hope all those who voted to leave live long enough to see the mess they’ve caused! We have a country that’s divided and hasn’t a clue what the future holds!
    Covid and Brexit will together will cause a huge social and economical mess!.....I’m old and it breaks my heart to see us a war with each other and my grandchildren paying the price!

    • @jantelopez5626
      @jantelopez5626 Рік тому +3

      same.. i dont like some political attitudes but i've never seen british voters be so openily oafish .. the biggest indicator of how strongly a person supports brexit was found to be how much they supported the death penalty.. that in itself says that the uk is no longer a champion of human rights .. if we are so easily led by psychopaths we are no longer trustworthy.. we pick leaders who dont care if they kill their own people from negligence.. what is left that is so great asbout us ? nothing is designed to responsibly the current paradigm change we are experiencing .. we're practically begging to be owned by some nefarious tech company

  • @johnb7644
    @johnb7644 3 роки тому +15

    Well she comes from a farming background so they’ll be short of farm workers now, Thick or not

  • @AndyWardTenerifeEstateAgents
    @AndyWardTenerifeEstateAgents 2 роки тому +7

    Nina Scudder from Boston - EU trade expert and socio-political commentator extraordinaire - just "wants it to get better" whatever the fk that means...

  • @fredgrove4220
    @fredgrove4220 5 років тому +94

    Bet those 2 remaners are in EU funded positions, and scared shitless of losing the gravy train.

    • @ernestrogen4639
      @ernestrogen4639 5 років тому +4

      Lets hope they slip in that gravy of the side of the train save us all some money.

    • @jasmineluxemburg6200
      @jasmineluxemburg6200 4 роки тому +4

      Its so depressing to hear the results of press brainwashing and austerity. The decades long ridicule of supposed EU absurd rules and extravagances in the tabloid press, and the belief that the less well off will benefit . I hope those that wrote and published the propaganda feel the guilt that they should. We will still have rules and extravagance, witness Boris ‘s projects ! Our home grown parasites and posers are not somehow more trustworthy because of being born in UK ! The well off will still have control via their public school networks and sheer greed ! The EU needs reform but perhaps not even as much as our own countries injustices and failures !

    • @sushigirl1069
      @sushigirl1069 4 роки тому

      @Boris Farage Erasmus

    • @JL-rx6hl
      @JL-rx6hl 4 роки тому +1

      @Jason Wong the student chose to get into debt, nobody forced them

  • @petecox5552
    @petecox5552 3 роки тому +5

    Why didn’t the government make provision separate for the migrant workers who after the season will go home at the end of the season!
    This PROBLEM has nothing to do with the EU - it’s for our own government to sort out, or the employers to find accommodation for short term employees!

    • @jantelopez5626
      @jantelopez5626 Рік тому

      because they didn't plan for anything .. because they are just a bunch of journalists whove never done anything important and messy that has accountability. . with actual people. they just write about people and scoff at them and judge them and how things are done.. without actually having any knowledge of how people work .. this is why they spent 12 million pounds on getting a few people to work off a spreadsheet for track and trace and still managed to kill off over 100,000 people more than the average over 2 years .. they scoffed at the who, they picked whatever irrelevant scientist was their mate from eton or whatever and completely ignored eergency public health professionals who have already done "lesson learning".

  • @alanhopkins3675
    @alanhopkins3675 5 років тому +22

    "I hope it goes straight forward and sorts itself out" Then the politicians stepped in and three years later most of them and the British media are still trying to pull an invisible U turn

  • @bartduynstee1577
    @bartduynstee1577 2 роки тому +5

    "i just want it to get better"...............and boy, did it get better!! al those nationalities living there and not a word of english....................and now they're all gone, moved out, not coming back, so you got your language wish.............on the dole, cause these companies they worked for are no more, cause they got no more employees.

  • @simonowen
    @simonowen 3 роки тому +3

    Yes, they're thick

  • @carolpryde6883
    @carolpryde6883 3 роки тому +7

    So when their farming community cannot export and they loose their jobs , what then ? This was never an EU issue but that of the govt and welfare state. I will not even respond to the question posed .

  • @baggaz167
    @baggaz167 2 роки тому +30

    Leave Voter: we wouldn't need interpreters in the NHS if it weren't for immigration!
    You also wouldn't have a functioning NHS without immigrants. You're far more likely to be treated by an immigrant than delayed by one.

    • @cedricworthingtonbroadaxe2287
      @cedricworthingtonbroadaxe2287 2 роки тому +1

      Simple answer to the above:-
      Train our children/grand-children to be nurses/doctors etc …. rather than employ foreigners.

    • @baggaz167
      @baggaz167 2 роки тому +6

      @@cedricworthingtonbroadaxe2287 we do train them ... medical schools are OVERSUBSCRIBED to ...
      That means we literally train as many as we physically can, but we need more because retention is terrible. NHS staff are overworked and underpaid. In the Junior Doctor Diaries he describes exactly this problem, which is part of why he left the profession; he was being paid less than a manager at Pret a Manger despite literally being called doctor. EU workers are more than willing to come and settle here to work in our healthcare system because a lot of them are used to terrible pay and working conditions. Do you understand why underfunding, underappreciating, privatising and over stretching is such a problem now?

  • @megumegu7287
    @megumegu7287 7 років тому +120

    And people still think the BBC is impartial.

    • @rory7590
      @rory7590 5 років тому +14

      They are. It's just their critics aren't.

    • @Jack-fs2im
      @Jack-fs2im 5 років тому +10

      Trippy three BBC directors were Labour party donors,The Head of BBC radio is ex cabinet minister Purnell.Corbyns spin dictor is Seamus Milne son of ex labour and BB director general Aklister.They are thevGuardian newspaers biggest buyer.It is mostly staffed by NUJ members,shall I go on

    • @rory7590
      @rory7590 5 років тому +8

      @@Jack-fs2im And how many Tory peers got their careers on the BBC. You can be selective all you like, but the impartiality of the BBC has nothing to do with personal affiliations of their staff. If you can't tell the difference, then that is half the problem.

    • @rory7590
      @rory7590 5 років тому +1

      @George Job Uhuh.

    • @Jack-fs2im
      @Jack-fs2im 5 років тому +4

      Trippy please tell me how many Tory peers got their careers from the BBC? tell me a couple please.Didnt Andrew Marr once sell Trotsky Newspaper.

  • @attackpatterndelta8949
    @attackpatterndelta8949 2 роки тому +11

    “Do you think people who voted Leave are thick?”
    Yes. Next question.

  • @mattysmith9823
    @mattysmith9823 4 роки тому +3

    Some are thick, a few are venal but most are just ignorant.

  • @briananderson3799
    @briananderson3799 5 років тому +11

    It looks more like a show us your knickers show

  • @iangrimshaw1
    @iangrimshaw1 Рік тому +1

    The two women from Boston gave real and focussed problems that exist in their town as a result of EU/unregulated immigration. The two remainers gave.....no answers or solutions. So who was really the thick ones?

  • @OlafPijl
    @OlafPijl 5 років тому +4

    The 5 largest foreign ethnic groups in the UK are: 1) Indian; 2) Pakistani; 3) Bangladeshi; 4) Chinese; 5) Other Asian.
    So much for reducing NHS costs by saving on interpreters from EU countries...
    (Source: 2011 census)

  • @raybo64
    @raybo64 2 роки тому +14

    Yes. They were thick. No doubt about it. I hope they're happy now.

  • @lindawarwick8643
    @lindawarwick8643 5 років тому +19

    They say we didn't know what we voted for .Yes we did we want out and we are not thick

    • @ashleighharris2390
      @ashleighharris2390 4 роки тому +3

      Very convincing...

    • @kazz4671
      @kazz4671 4 роки тому +1

      It's odd that people cling on to this idea that they aren't thick against overwhelming evidence. I wonder if their life experience might be comparable to a plant, but angrier.

    • @thomasferguson3061
      @thomasferguson3061 Рік тому

      oh yes you might be

  • @larryfisher2203
    @larryfisher2203 7 років тому +13

    Still crying and a pathetic attempt to dismiss a democratic vote. It's offensive.

  • @andyknowles1874
    @andyknowles1874 2 роки тому +2

    They are thick. Science proved it.

  • @sonicfoxxmusic4281
    @sonicfoxxmusic4281 6 років тому +48

    WHAT A CROCK...i want my license fee paid back to me.

    • @lawgirl2007
      @lawgirl2007 5 років тому +1

      SONIC FOX MUSIC not a chance of your license fee being paid back to you now....It will only go up in price after the Brexit shambles lol...

    • @weepingangel6805
      @weepingangel6805 5 років тому +4

      Why would you even pay

    • @sonicfoxxmusic4281
      @sonicfoxxmusic4281 5 років тому +2

      Well you can pay it Claire..and can you spell my name correctly...SONIC FOXX MUSIC....thanks.

    • @fionagregory8078
      @fionagregory8078 5 років тому +2

      daft

    • @justinwalpole8956
      @justinwalpole8956 4 роки тому

      yes awful, they posed a question you don't agree with. Lock them up and throw away the key.

  • @BLUESKY-zt1nv
    @BLUESKY-zt1nv 2 роки тому +3

    oi Blabbermouth "Some of them carn't even say hello in English" ....you forgetting something English living in Spain ..Some of them carn't even say hello in Spanish

  • @oldishandwoke-ish1181
    @oldishandwoke-ish1181 2 роки тому +2

    In answer to that question : YES.

  • @slothfromthegoonies8201
    @slothfromthegoonies8201 7 років тому +35

    I hate that the media are trying to portray all of us graduates and professionals as Remainers. I backed Brexit, and I had very good reasons for doing so.

    • @johnmoore9862
      @johnmoore9862 6 років тому +1

      Sloth from The Goonies, Yes, but you are capable of mounting an articulate & reasoned argument, it's not worth trying to debate anything of importance with someone like "millwallholdings" that is an affront to the most meagre intelligence.

    • @millwallholdings
      @millwallholdings 6 років тому

      Education, more like brainwashing like the soap dodging student ponces
      Need to keep them fees high Debt Debt ha ha

    • @johnmoore9862
      @johnmoore9862 6 років тому +2

      millwallholdings, Student debt is something you & your offsprings will never have to concern yourselves with.

    • @millwallholdings
      @millwallholdings 6 років тому +1

      Good thats the way it should be as well
      Pay for someone elses brats to get a better Education than me and i pay for it out of taxes wtf, i should co co
      After the comments from the soap dogers after Brexit fuck the work shy shisters
      Personally would not give em the steam off me shit
      Esp the Girls , wasting a bit of time at Uni, the shit name they call it before coming out and getting preggers and living off a man thust wasting all that time and expence
      Equal rights !!!! ha ha i shit it

    • @johnmoore9862
      @johnmoore9862 6 років тому +2

      millwallholdings, Educated people are obviously on your long list of people to hate.

  • @davidmichaels8934
    @davidmichaels8934 2 роки тому +5

    Maybe some are thick, but the majority who voted leave, are easily led!

  • @vincentmckenna281
    @vincentmckenna281 6 років тому +41

    We would still have foreign workers coming over .it's the ones which don't want to work is the problem

    • @ernestrogen4639
      @ernestrogen4639 5 років тому +2

      Yes even under WTO terms we can decide which workers we need here. Try going to the USA or Austarlia we will only be doing what most other countries do to protect their own nationals. But the point is our elected governments in the future should decide these points or if they are in dubt put it to the vote by the people and law should make them obay the result.

    • @ernestrogen4639
      @ernestrogen4639 5 років тому +1

      Yes Vincent its about being able to say holiday only unless you have a job to do. That means we will have a better idea of who has entered the UK and when and if they left. Common sense. Plus extra customs for lorries etc mean less Slave /people traficing and also less drugs on our streets.

    • @doveronefoxtrot4417
      @doveronefoxtrot4417 4 роки тому

      No it isn't ? Those that are working are working for less than the national minimum wage, they are happy to sign zero houred contracts, within that remit they receive no holiday pay, no sickness pay no pension rights, and no rights to proper representation in the workplace. Add that deadly cocktail to those that have been life long citizens of this country, and you turn back the clock a hundred years to the days of when your parents, and grand parents fought bitter battles to ensure decent pay and conditions in the workplace. They are creating a draconian workplace for us all because of their utter thirst to secure employment at any cost.

    • @byronlivingstone8320
      @byronlivingstone8320 3 роки тому

      Nihilistic arsehole

    • @williampatrickfagan7590
      @williampatrickfagan7590 3 роки тому

      @@ernestrogen4639
      That also applies to U K nationals wanting to emigrate to Europe, or even U K students wanting to go grape picking etc in Europe during the Uni Holidays.
      Work permit will be required.

  • @SilentGunner13
    @SilentGunner13 2 роки тому +2

    Yes.
    Next question.

  • @Armrongeddon
    @Armrongeddon 2 роки тому +3

    Thick as two short planks.

  • @chriswhamilton
    @chriswhamilton 3 роки тому +3

    And where does she think the local doctor will get the staff to replace the ones that can no longer work there? British medical staff already feel underpaid, thank God you saved 40 quid a week on interpreters though.....who are maybe British and now out of a job and claiming benefits.

    • @Spinbassflipbassfly
      @Spinbassflipbassfly 2 роки тому

      because all migrants work for the NHS.
      The typical Labour obfuscation line. No self awareness whatsoever.

  • @user-pn4iz7ns1v
    @user-pn4iz7ns1v 7 років тому +9

    pretty much, yes

  • @stephengregory6664
    @stephengregory6664 5 років тому +1

    why are YOU not talking about the court case that we are already out of the EU??????

    • @grousetheghoul2754
      @grousetheghoul2754 4 роки тому

      Really, I heard about that here on youtube also. Quick, find the posting and remove it before enough " thickies " see it and figure out that it's the truth. I have invented the word "thickies" . A Thickie is a person who sees through the media BS and actually knows what's going on. The left and they MSM are constantly trying to make leavers look thick headed, so we should call ourselves Thickies. Some might see us as thick, but we aren't the ones scared of running out of gravy in our own boats..

  • @jamesbutler6138
    @jamesbutler6138 2 роки тому +1

    "I hope it moves straight forwards and sorts itself out" errrrmmm.....

  • @johnheppenstall4984
    @johnheppenstall4984 5 років тому +11

    I seen Boston and Spalding , they used to be lovely English towns , now they are not . They have been over run .

  • @jamesdonk1776
    @jamesdonk1776 3 роки тому +5

    "Do you think people who voted leave are thick?"....... Mostly yes. They are.

  • @weezara2939
    @weezara2939 3 роки тому +1

    The EU immigrants did not bring the work with them they came with a work ethic

  • @DanCThorpe
    @DanCThorpe Рік тому +1

    'Do you think we're thick?' As mince luv.

  • @Scotoz27
    @Scotoz27 5 років тому +20

    These guys are all that is wrong about the UK it is London centric and for over 70 years such as the London Weighting Allowance which predates the EEC/EU it is treated as the total UK and the rest is just an appendage. No one in any location outside the environs of Londonistan sees any benefits to their lives by being swamped by migrants who bring no real value and send much money overseas to their home countries. The UK was lied to in entering the EEC and the 'wine lakes', 'butter mountains' and all the inefficiencies of bureaucrats who paid producers to destroy their products was an insane and stupid idea when people outside the EEC were paying a fraction for EEC products that, by law, could not be sold in the EEC countries. The insanity that the EEC/EU bloc was and its organic growth is a sociopaths dream so that they can do as they wish (ERT or European Round Table) and there are NO consequences. Leave means leave and take the country back that Ted Heath lied us into and be free and democratic once again. British folks have died in wars for freedom and these treasonous politicians of all parties were complicit in the deeper entanglements with laws that no UK or other European residents had a say in. The fact that Ireland and other countries did have a referendum and then after saying no the EU made them vote again until they got the yes with no significant value to those countries. Leave!! The many dead who died for British freedom demands it.

    • @newguyontheblockavalon2842
      @newguyontheblockavalon2842 5 років тому

      London Weighting, wow, that goes back to ca. 1975, no? Did you work on that project by any chance? Let me know..

    • @Scotoz27
      @Scotoz27 4 роки тому +1

      @@newguyontheblockavalon2842 No I was involved in the union in those days before Maggie T and it was then more expensive living in Aberdeen than London. That being said I went to seminars across the UK and it never ceased to amaze me the number of people in the North of England say 'I hate the English' and even then they stated that after 100 mile circumference was breached around London then the rest of the UK just only existed for tax receipts and military fodder. Not much has changed in nearly 50 years only the EU now plays the tune to London and provinces are even worse off.

    • @jamesc3032
      @jamesc3032 4 роки тому +4

      @@Scotoz27 So the solution to that is to vote for even worse conditions than currently exist?

    • @Scotoz27
      @Scotoz27 4 роки тому

      @@jamesc3032 I dont quite see what you mean however I believe the global 'two party system' enslaves and has enslaved the world for decades. It never matters who is voted in as the both appear to have the same agenda. The current Conservative and Labour political class are desperately trying to stay in the EU which is the betrayal of all those who died in WWII to fight for freedom and sovereignty just to have Germany, by stealth, lies and corruption, lead from the shadows just as Hitler planned it would be if Germany won WWII. The EUSSR most recent announcement as to who will run the EUSSR should show everyone that the real power of democracy comes from peaceful evolution and some may say revolution. The Brexit party would almost certainly gain a huge amount of votes if a General Election was held and the crazy LibDems should be arrested for treason;
      Christine Lagarde found guilty of fraud but let off, a Belgian deposed by a vote of 'No Confidence' by his own parliament and an avowed socialist are all the new round of criminals telling Brits what they can and cant do.

    • @jamesc3032
      @jamesc3032 4 роки тому +4

      @@Scotoz27 The fight during WW2 was against fascism - the ultimate end point of fervent nationalism; the Axis Powers weren't trying to unite the world under a banner of tolerance and democracy, they thought themselves racially superior, and wanted to exterminate, or enslave those whom they considered inferior.
      Remaining in the EU is the pragmatic choice for the preservation of the economy, despite the Neo-Liberal economic agenda. Voting to leave hurts those who are poorest and receive subsidiaries from the EU. I agree that the UK is very London-centric; however I wholly reject firstly the implication that your rhetoric about immigration implies, and secondly that the alternative to the current system has to take a right-wing, nationalist bent. The WW2 veterans that you so venerate didn't fight so that fascism could rear its ugly head once more, but in a different guise.

  • @offmarketinvestments9770
    @offmarketinvestments9770 5 років тому +81

    The whole set up was rigged! Even the commentator is a remainer. FIX!

    • @andyayre8509
      @andyayre8509 5 років тому +2

      Strange how the remainers are degree educated and the leavers are just normal women that work in a factory. Maybe if there had been factory workers that voted remain it would have been a little fairer. No offence meant to the Boston girls.

    • @aon10003
      @aon10003 4 роки тому +1

      Do you Think that US will get you a trading deal without opening up the food market. Dont answer, you already know better then those who cared to read the Trump freetrade offer.

    • @rebeccadonaldson1464
      @rebeccadonaldson1464 4 роки тому +4

      I voted LEAVE and I have an IQ tested under supervised conditions at Norwich University, of 146 on the Cattell Scale. That is in the top 4% of the Population.

    • @metrokanto
      @metrokanto 4 роки тому

      proof!

    • @MrWhiteisbetter
      @MrWhiteisbetter 4 роки тому +3

      Brexit voters are less educated than remain voters and every survey has proven this. So how did you vote oh so wise one lol

  • @NJA3421
    @NJA3421 3 роки тому +2

    Want to see the longer version of this video.

  • @chrishazel4048
    @chrishazel4048 4 роки тому +1

    Problem is eu is just a smoke screen there are more coming in from outside the eu and are doing nothing to stop them which they could but don't want to

  • @LetsTakeWalk
    @LetsTakeWalk 4 роки тому +7

    How will you Brexiteers respond when the things people have warned about (economic downturn, mass firings, far less trade, worse food supply etc..) comes true? Will you blame the EU again?

    • @Rejoin_2023
      @Rejoin_2023 2 роки тому +1

      Oh yes, it will be the EU's fault for letting us leave. Why didn't the EU stop us?

    • @gertscheper9653
      @gertscheper9653 2 роки тому

      In short , yes.

  • @chrisredfield3240
    @chrisredfield3240 6 років тому +19

    If someone doesn't' agree they must be thick. This is how intelligent people think theseday's

    • @lindabowman2139
      @lindabowman2139 5 років тому +1

      Chris Hart Basically 'common'sense is just that normal people have more of it than 'intelligent' ones, as so called intelligent ones have been educated to the elites agenda...

    • @ernestrogen4639
      @ernestrogen4639 5 років тому +1

      When remainers are beat they go direct to insults lol acting like they are god almighty knowing everything but cant see we only get 60% of what we pay into the EU back proves they cant count very well. We pay them 100% and they tell us how generous they are and about the vast amount of money they give the UK lol 60% of our own money back EU fat cats keep the rest.

    • @newguyontheblockavalon2842
      @newguyontheblockavalon2842 5 років тому +2

      ernest rogen Well, it’s a bit like taxation, the richer you are the more you pay into the system. In the end everybody benefits from the “infrastructure.” You obviously think there is an advantage to not paying into the club. Well, you are about to find out the hard way when a hard Brexit kicks in and you lose all the benefits of membership, such as free access to the world’s largest market, right at your doorstep. . Hard-headed Thatcher figured it out in the end in spite of all her talk about it being “our money.,” when negotiating a rebate. Don’t know if you are old enough to remember.

    • @ernestrogen4639
      @ernestrogen4639 5 років тому +2

      @@newguyontheblockavalon2842 Ah here we go having to put facts to those who dont want to see the truth. First big piont is the EU is not and never was and never will be a free market. Our governments prepay for the right to trade with our tax. Its like prepay mob phone its not free.
      Next point you mis is the EU are not our biggest market place EU facts show the rest of the world has been the UKs biggest market since 2009 not the EU.
      You also make the mistake of pushing the lie that the EU markets will be closed to the UK. The EU trades with the rest of the world under WTO terms and we will also trade in and out of the EU on those terms.
      Next fact is the EU send more exorts into the UK than we send to them so whats the benefits you think we are getting. As under WTO terms the EU would be paying the UK more than we pay them.
      In Thachers term of office the UK people had not woken up to the fact that the EEC trade block was turning into a over bearing government called the EU. She did get some of our money back but then you forget they toke much of that back later by demanding billions for what they called a blackmarket trade. Figures the EU could not prove and the UK numpties paid. You did not mention the rebate will not be renewed. The EU have stated that. Now this club is like a pall in a pub lend me £100 then next week he gives you £60 back and asks for another £100 and tells you how generous he was giving you that £60. We only get aprox 60% of what we pay into the EU back thats far from value for money.
      Other benefits of being in the EU lets see heres the list. No real control over who enters the UK from the EU no criminal checks etc.
      Less customs officers which lead directly to more people /slave trafficking.
      Less customs officers which put more drugs on our streets. These are all your benefits of being inside the EU........

    • @lindabowman2139
      @lindabowman2139 5 років тому +1

      NewGuyOnTheBlock Avalon Well, Greece hasn't benefited, German banks bought vast shares in Greek banks, fully aware that they could never afford the EU membership payments, so when they defaulted, guess what, the good old EU gave the Greek banks millions, which obviously went straight into Germany's coffers, good work hey??!!! and btw Germany STILL owes Greece for WW2 reparation. Yes, the EU is a great organization, for GERMANY

  • @peterbreis5407
    @peterbreis5407 2 роки тому +2

    Yes.

  • @clancywiggam
    @clancywiggam 2 роки тому +16

    Reasoned arguments vs moronic prejudice. Never gets old.

  • @jonfairhurst71
    @jonfairhurst71 5 років тому +9

    I voted leave as I was fed up with being asked to buy the big issue by Romanians. Please note that I do not live in a city but a tiny village in Wales!

  • @sopadurso
    @sopadurso 5 років тому +2

    Yes they are, just listen to what they have to say.

  • @the_marketing_and_hockey_chap
    @the_marketing_and_hockey_chap 3 роки тому +2

    Yes. Next?

  • @Bustergonad9649
    @Bustergonad9649 3 роки тому +3

    Still inbreeding in Boston I see !

  • @therespectedlex9794
    @therespectedlex9794 7 років тому +30

    We need a referendum on a fairer Britain? Nope, that would be the usual political process. You're thinking of a general election, democracy. Not always good, but the best we have. We had the referendum on the EU because the EU is unfair.

    • @thebookexpedition7878
      @thebookexpedition7878 3 роки тому

      @tline the reason why the government was made in the first place was to represent the people- i.e in the French revolution. Just history.

    • @YouTubeUserCx
      @YouTubeUserCx 3 роки тому

      The UK had the chance to have a system similar to Norway with what Jeremy Corbyn was offering, but we're going to get a watered down version of the USA with a health care system (that will eventually be privatised). I'd prefer the system similar to Norway if you ask me.

  • @francistop772
    @francistop772 4 роки тому +1

    And by the way, the majority of immigrants shown in the videos referring to mass migration were of Indians, Pakistan and black communities, if my geography is correct, these countries and races are not from the EU?

  • @andygrimshaw7464
    @andygrimshaw7464 2 роки тому +1

    "Do you think people who voted leave are thick"......no....but they'd help out if they were short

  • @hashtagboss2935
    @hashtagboss2935 7 років тому +4

    So she admits the "350 million" was a lie.

    • @hashtagboss2935
      @hashtagboss2935 7 років тому

      +I LOVE JEWS that's not what Nigel Farage said on Good Morning Britain.

    • @hashtagboss2935
      @hashtagboss2935 7 років тому +1

      +himnextdoor where are these EU accounts you seek of ? Link ?

    • @hashtagboss2935
      @hashtagboss2935 7 років тому +2

      +himnextdoor when you go to the shops and buy a chocolate bar with a £20 pound note. Do you also say that the chocolate bar was £20?. Not considering what we get back its just plain stupid.

    • @chimpboy9760
      @chimpboy9760 7 років тому

      +Timothy Leadbeater The EU has never published accounts!

    • @hashtagboss2935
      @hashtagboss2935 7 років тому

      +I LOVE JEWS hahaha u sound like you're a low-grade James Bond villain.

  • @SirBobertThe3rd
    @SirBobertThe3rd 5 років тому +22

    You live in a housing association anywhere in the UK. Whether it be local council or private landlords. The estates are now rife with polish and other EU citizens breaking down and dividing up communities. British families that have waited years on bidding lists to get a home are being pushed to the back of the housing que making them feel like second hand citizens in there own towns and cities. The EU migrants have literally taken over local areas and businesses. I live in a housing association property. There are 12 houses on my little street. 8 are now occupied by foreigners.. 5 years ago we had street parties and had a strong sense of community spirit. .each home that's come available has been instantly given to a eu migrant even though as I said before there are British families that had applied years previous to them coming into this country. As for jobs in the area. Don't get me started. I live near to an industrial estate and more than 80% of workers are foreign leaving it very difficult for any local people to find work. That is a fact that British people are fed up of and why they voted OUT! I am sick of being pushed to the back on the line while watching foreigners take the housing, school places(who have and to expand cause of the massive flood of migration)and jobs.
    People have had enough.

    • @FLIPMODE630
      @FLIPMODE630 4 роки тому +1

      Street parties I have loads of different nationalities in my street we had a great street party maybe you should organise one invite people out I'm sure you would be surprised treat people with respect and not suspicion it's amazing sometimes the prisons we build in our own minds good luck 😉 with the party

    • @thomasferguson3061
      @thomasferguson3061 Рік тому

      how about getting a job on your on merits and stop blaming other working class people

    • @SirBobertThe3rd
      @SirBobertThe3rd Рік тому

      @@thomasferguson3061 3 years later and what's changed. Being born and bread in the UK means fuck all to our government. Your not allowed to feel patriotic in the UK. Its deemed as offensive. What a joke. I've got a job dick head

  • @Rob-rg7ix
    @Rob-rg7ix 3 роки тому +2

    They are

  • @WilliamThePayne
    @WilliamThePayne 4 роки тому +1

    Yes. They are thick.

  • @catleugh
    @catleugh 7 років тому +24

    They keep linking Farage with the "350 million" poster. He didn't have anything to do with it, it belonged to the official Leave campaign, which Nigel wasn't a part off. Farage kept saying that the Leave campaign should not have used the gross figure, but stuck with the net figure (~8 billion last year).

    • @patriciaanderson9720
      @patriciaanderson9720 7 років тому +10

      No Farage was far too busy with his xenophobic propoganda with his poster which was absolutely nothing to do with the EU and the UK .

    • @doreenduke7679
      @doreenduke7679 5 років тому +1

      well its not lying because if we leave we save say 54 million a day 54x7=£378000,000 but more than the poster YEAH

    • @jagman84
      @jagman84 5 років тому +1

      @@doreenduke7679 The net figure was more than £350 m. That was just the membership fee. VAT and tariffs collected for the EU was an extra 50% on top. £430 m is the real total we pay per week.

    • @millwallholdings
      @millwallholdings 3 роки тому

      @@patriciaanderson9720 stick to being on the game slapper

  • @Uduwerage
    @Uduwerage 2 роки тому +5

    People who voted for Brexit were not thick, but those who are still claiming that Brexit is a success certainly are a worry

  • @heartinflames
    @heartinflames 3 роки тому +1

    To put it simply...yes.

  • @fka_the_body1542
    @fka_the_body1542 5 років тому +3

    Yes they are thick....there I said it

  • @andyb4864
    @andyb4864 3 роки тому +11

    We always had control of EU immigration. We had the right to send them back if they had no insurance, no job or no financial means to support themselves after 3 months. The EU said we could send them back if that criteria wasn't
    Met. We never took the EU up on it!

  • @nektekket852
    @nektekket852 Рік тому +1

    Yep, they're thick.

  • @romanjimenezgil
    @romanjimenezgil 2 роки тому +1

    Too short

  • @carlabroderick5508
    @carlabroderick5508 5 років тому +4

    Yes we think they’re thick.

  • @defunctt
    @defunctt 6 років тому +11

    Britain has got poorer per capita and it is as simple as Europe exacerbates this problem. The supply of housing, transport, jobs, health and education is out of step with the demand that is coming in. The tax base of the demand that is coming in is not enough to offset their demand. This is before we even examine the democratic deficit that Europe presents. How anybody can argue that Europe is benefiting us by imposing laws that we have minimal input in whether we want or not is madness. I would hedge my bet not many remainers appreciate the willingness of the EU to impose TTIP on us which is the most fascist, corporate bullshit the world has seen for many years. But if you don't like it - it would be tough - because the EU could impose it purely through order of power that we handed to it. Legislation such as TTIP should be openly debated and decided upon on the basis of our benefit or drawback - not the impact of the rest of the nations of the EU.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 5 років тому

      defunctt
      Thats is because the British are thick now instead of being sheltered by the EU they have to compete with the World . They are fucked

    • @philipconnolly748
      @philipconnolly748 5 років тому +6

      Again, and this is becoming tiresome, what law is so unfair to Britain. Which EU law is it that discriminates so badly against Britain? The madness is all yours.

  • @johnstroud3448
    @johnstroud3448 6 років тому +1

    The first mistake the lads made is that they assume that it was the campaign that drove attitude`s. It most definitely wasn`t, The nation knew what they were going to do BEFORE the campaigner`s started trying to take the lead

  • @DublinMarc
    @DublinMarc 2 роки тому +1

    Thickest decision in history by racists

  • @trunky123
    @trunky123 5 років тому +3

    I'm more interested to know if Emily is wearing any knickers

    • @tykehotep2865
      @tykehotep2865 3 роки тому

      you can patently see she is and there white by the looks of it

    • @uk1simon1
      @uk1simon1 2 роки тому

      More likely Cabbage leaves

  • @JAMAICADOCK
    @JAMAICADOCK 7 років тому +5

    Thing is, the working class once understood they were thick. Which paradoxically is a smart thing to do.

    • @skepticalexicon3534
      @skepticalexicon3534 5 років тому

      When the working class can't work you gonna have a problem on your hands. You may say they are thick but they aren't stupid to different things.

  • @007JHS
    @007JHS 2 роки тому +2

    In answer to the question asked in the title... Yes...thick as.

  • @jip230
    @jip230 Рік тому

    Something tells me that six years on, the two men are just fine while the women are struggling. I don't think it has anything to do with the EU or immigration. It has to do with the working class vs the educated class.

  • @mhl8396
    @mhl8396 7 років тому +50

    They don't genuinely think we're thick, but it fits their tantrum about losing the vote. Beats having proper arguments.

    • @regankelly7903
      @regankelly7903 6 років тому +9

      MHL83 your are thick though. The world is laughing at you.

    • @cr4yv3n
      @cr4yv3n 6 років тому +7

      No we truly think you are dumb as fuck

    • @mhl8396
      @mhl8396 6 років тому +3

      I'm guessing 'the world' doesn't know me.

    • @rolojosia72
      @rolojosia72 5 років тому +5

      I think you brexit voting cunts are so retarded you count as being fully recessed.

    • @mhl8396
      @mhl8396 5 років тому +5

      And you wonder how you lost! I notice the lack of any proper arguments for staying in the EU, other than swearing and abuse at people with a different opinion. Says it all really. And we're supposed to be the intolerant ones!

  • @johhny711
    @johhny711 3 роки тому +6

    Yes, thick, really thick :)

  • @nickking7494
    @nickking7494 5 років тому +1

    Why didn't the producer tell Emily that she had forgotten to put her clothes on? How can you have a serious debate when the interviewer has her breakfast on show lol!

    • @millwallholdings
      @millwallholdings 4 роки тому +1

      Think she forgot to put her alan wickers on as well

  • @mariesimmons7748
    @mariesimmons7748 6 років тому +2

    Well... yes obviously.

  • @Dan210871
    @Dan210871 2 роки тому +5

    Not just thick. Thick AND xenophobic. Don't sell yourself short, lady.

  • @rja421
    @rja421 7 років тому +42

    42% of AB professionals voted leave. Could Newsnight not find one to match against their remain voting lawyers? They didn't even try, the BBC needs to be privatised.

    • @johnmoore9862
      @johnmoore9862 6 років тому +4

      rja, , No a publicity owned channel brings balance to an otherwise right wing privately owned media.

    • @scobra6652
      @scobra6652 6 років тому +2

      John Moore
      "right wing privately owned media"???
      They're 90% staffed and edited by left-wingers who fall over themselves to see who can push the multiculti minority-first feminist socialist agenda the most. What planet are this media of yours on? It certainly isn't this one.

    • @johnmoore9862
      @johnmoore9862 6 років тому +4

      scobra, You know as well as i the Sun, Mail, Times, Telegraph, Star, all Rabid Tory supporters, all privately owned, Stop with the denial & made up on the spot %s that convinces no one, you won’t be satisfied until every news report is edited by Tory central office to support your right wing views.

    • @cr4yv3n
      @cr4yv3n 6 років тому +1

      Yes privatized.
      Sold to Murdoch as Daily Mail 2. :D

    • @ideaaddict923
      @ideaaddict923 5 років тому +1

      70% of Leave voters had only GCSE level qualifications. 68% of Remain voters had university level qualifications. If you think that privatisation will prevent bias then you haven't been getting your daily recommended dose of The Sun, or the Mail, or the Star.

  • @leonberger8682
    @leonberger8682 3 роки тому +2

    Simple answer - Yes.

  • @01HILARYKEEGAN
    @01HILARYKEEGAN 7 років тому +1

    Yes!!

  • @geoac
    @geoac 4 роки тому +10

    15 yrs waiting for a Council House. Explanation? Incomers have priority.

  • @brianc5928
    @brianc5928 7 років тому +5

    Leave voters=underachievers, Remain voters=overachievers, it's was always going to be leave vote based on what I see in England these days

    • @johnmoore9862
      @johnmoore9862 6 років тому +2

      John Justice, You have made some good points, the underlying principle of a welfare state is to assist the poor through tax credits & help those in genuine need, that can't be considered a bad thing in a 1st world industrial nation, it's a measure of civic responsibility to our less able & less fortunate. What concerns me is the governments of both parties subsiding big companies paying poverty wages through tax credits. I'm all for redistribution of wealth through taxation, but this encourages bad employers to pay their workers the bare minimum, knowing the taxpayer will pick up the bill.

    • @schroedingerscat2.054
      @schroedingerscat2.054 6 років тому

      Nigel Farage is an under-achiever? Jacob Rees Mogg is an under-achiever?

  • @michelle-louiseburrows2248
    @michelle-louiseburrows2248 6 місяців тому

    "Do you think people who voted Leave are thick?" Well, i don't think they are thick.... THEY ARE THICK!!!

  • @martinplayz8645
    @martinplayz8645 2 роки тому +2

    Absolutely love

  • @dread4836
    @dread4836 4 роки тому +3

    the young educated remainers v the middle aged wise leavers, wisdom beats education hands down

    • @Pilotalphapapa
      @Pilotalphapapa 4 роки тому +1

      dread 😂 ok just stay home and get old apparently that will make you smart

  • @tizintishka
    @tizintishka 5 років тому +11

    Yes I do think those who voted leave are more than thick.

    • @tonkerdog1
      @tonkerdog1 3 роки тому +1

      Which makes our victory even more sweet.

    • @DCDPM
      @DCDPM 3 роки тому +4

      I voted remain and being proved correct on every front is sweet. Loving seeing Brexiteers businesses going tits up while blaming the EU. The rules won't change and the misery you voted to inflict is your doing. We could have left and stayed in the single market and customs union. You only have yourselves to blame. You must be thick if you blame the EU for treating us as a third country because this is what you wanted. It won't get any better unless you join Sheghan/EFTA or the single market.

    • @tonkerdog1
      @tonkerdog1 3 роки тому +1

      @@DCDPM What breiteers businesses have gone bust blaming the EU? Proof. Still trying that well worn trick of calling thick, when all it does is turn voters off . Keep at it, we love it.
      500,000 job losses immediately after a leave vote...LIE. House prices tumbling(they’re still rising)...LIE, WW3...LIE, No access to drugs so they’ll be a VD pandemic...how did that turn out PAH, etc etc etc
      It’s like listening to one half of a relationship, when the other half still isn’t interest listening to remainers. She’s gone for good, now get on with your life like the rest of the planet.
      Educate yourself with an expert, who is a remainer.
      ua-cam.com/video/4j4iLVFYbWo/v-deo.html

    • @DCDPM
      @DCDPM 3 роки тому +1

      @@tonkerdog1 What is a Breiteer? Scottish fishermen as well as other businesses who rely on EU Trade will go bust if they haven't already. Are you completely ignoring what is going on. And as far as relationships go , I wouldn't date a Brexiteer. I couldnt lower my standards where I would find myself in such a relationship. I have a beautiful Spanish girlfriend and we both love Europe. I never mentioned WW3 in my predictions or any of those things you mentioned. It was the British media threatening gun boats over fishing quotas, and we are heavily outnumbered about 4/1 in that regard. Stop thinking it is the blitz for god sake, those days are gone. Who will you blame for your shit life now that you got your Bregzit

    • @tonkerdog1
      @tonkerdog1 3 роки тому

      @@DCDPM Yep, straight to the insults. I love Europe too, and thankfully I’ve done my bit from it falling into a federal misery. But as an airline pilot who’s lived in Belgium and Greece, what would I know.
      My wife’s from Morocco, what’s your point.