I'm a fire fighter and if I'd be in charge of callsigns we'd have similar ones. But our captain has to be "professional" (read: boring), so we're called "(city) truck" or "(city) engine" or "(city) command" an so on... :/
It is mandated by ICAO for all international airports that first responding ARFF unit has to arrive on scene within three minutes of the alert (including dispatch and time to roll-out!).
@@Marco-wz3ff As with many things in aviation, we did learn from that mistake and ARFF is trained on the irregular and unpredictable behaviour of panicing crowds now. Especially they are cautioned about the mix of reduced visibility (their own spray/foam or otherwise) and evac on the tarmac.
@@Marco-wz3ff aviation is an ever changing industries, sadly it takes casualties for changes to take effect most of the times, others a simple near miss of life may just be enough. either way, its noones intention to cause casualties, just a mix of things going wrong at the same time.
My Daddy booted at Lackland USAF San Antonio in 1960. FOD were jack-rabbits. (Edit) not just one here one there, there were husks of them. End edit Baseball bats were handed out during police call. I think the local orphanage enjoyed rabbit stew, or even rabbit fricassee, but that's just conjecture.
This is a stupid question and I can’t believe it never really occurred to me before, but Is a heading just turning to a compass position? I’ve realized I’ve never heard it go over 360... I always just assumed it was maybe a preprogrammed route through airspace or something. Very stupid, now that I think about it.
Thanks for the videos. It's amazing that I never heard of any of these incidents last year. Was just searching for info on the UPS runway overrun this morning. Guess I don't watch the news much.
We had an engine failure years ago. Due to the Dry grass, The fire was caused by hot fan blades exiting the engine and landing in the dry grass catching fire.
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Amazing coincidence that this is the same flight that had the uncontained engine failure a few years later. Wish there was a recording available for the ARFF comms for that event as well.
each has his own hobbies, could you talk a bit about why planespotting is something that's exciting for you? Don't get me wrong any hobby that's outside is better than just sitting and watching tv/browsing reddit, something I'm guilty of at times
@@yuriythebest because we love aviation and its cool to see each type of plane (which the typical spotter knows a little about) personally im training to get my pilot liscence but also enjoy plane spotting especially unique ones like old planes or the antonov 225 (largest plane in the world) also not everybody can fly due to medical issues so some people plane spot instead
Negative, the birds were not pill pushing doctors with previously suspended medical licenses, so the police did not drag them from the plane. However, they were unarmed black birds so they were immediately killed.
How big are these emergency crews? I wonder what the most amount of emergencies at once at an airport was, and how it was handled. I keep thinking of that air Canada plane trying to land on 4 other planes full of fuel and passengers, can’t imagine how that would’ve been managed
Just wondering why Ground needed to ask which engine was which. Isn't it universal that the engines count left to right as seen from behind? Everything I've ever seen has had them numbered this way and never seen anyone feel they had to confirm it.
it's likely everyone knew this already but when you are dealing with a possible fire, it's a good idea to eliminate any doubt/confusion. Also, it being a heavy with 354 people, there may have been additional emergency units responding from outside the airport and they may be less familiar with aviation details.
Does anyone know if they ever ended up extinguishing the fires on the runway, or is the whole airport on fire now and they're still just talking back and forth about the size of the fires?
the fires were put out and the airport resumed normal operations following this incident, but sometimes even small fires can spread - if the fire is very serious, the alert will be raised
The sun came out so they closed down the airport and broke out the Barbecues while they waited for chief engine 35 to come back from the store with the beers. Good day had by all.
Priorities: 1: Aviate (keep the plane in the air... this includes dealing with what broke) 2: Navigate (point it where you want it to go) 3: Communicate (paying attention to the radio is the lowest priority of a pilot in dealing with an emergency... tell ATC/tower you got a problem and let them deal with keeping everyone else away from you.)
Jonathan Lee DFD = Denver Fire Department. That's not what he said, though. He said we have the EOC activated. EOC = emergency operations center, the unified command post.
D X It's a good idea to avoid it, but not necessary. The faster an airplane moves through the air, the more authority the flight controls have. So if the operating engine is left at full power, and the airspeed slows below a certain point (Vmc) then the pilot will lose control. As long as he keeps speed up, and engine power down, he can turn into the dead engine just fine.
I cannot believe that air traffic controllers don't know something as basic as how aircraft engines are numbered. Some pilots may dumb it down and say left or right engine, but others will refer to number one or number two engine and on up if there are more.
I can't believe the ground controller didn't know how aircraft engines are numbered. This incident is a perfect illustration of why every controller should know that.
An "alert" refers to ARFF classification of an aircraft with an emergency. Alert 1 is declared when an aircraft has a minor emergency reported of some type. Alert 2 is declared when there's an emergency declared for something major- such as a loss of systems, engine failure, no gear, etc. ARFF vehicles are staged and will "chase" the aircraft after arrival. Alert 3 is declared when an actual accident has occurred or is known to going to be occurring. Aircraft inbound with an actual inflight fire. ARFF will be staged and ready to go and local area fire departments are notified and responding.
Some of the guys on the radio take to long to communicate effectively. Should not key your mic until you know what you’re going to say- in a quick, clear manner. You’re professionals for God sake- act like it.
Oh no more aviation gabble... Red fox to flying turnip.... 5467 tango tango..yes please darling... I thought radio communication should be clear and stoccato. These conversations are blurred Flying turnip UfO.
"Are you still with me??" Completely incompetent handling of aircraft itself still in air with one engine and 354 people. The grind and fire guys were laughable, sir this and sir that.
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There's even little water jets coming out of the firetrucks. I dig this channel
Every little detail makes my channel different, in my opinion :D
@@VASAviation it does !!!
No idea why I find the animation of the little grass fire and the firetrucks so adorable..
"Red Leader, Red 4 in position"
You know the fire fighters are Star Wars fans.
I'm a fire fighter and if I'd be in charge of callsigns we'd have similar ones. But our captain has to be "professional" (read: boring), so we're called "(city) truck" or "(city) engine" or "(city) command" an so on... :/
I Agree, but at 12:10 it was beam me up Scotty for those firetrucks.
@@QemeH time to move to a city named red near a city named gold
went to the comments for this, top comment.
Where?
"It looks like the runway's on fire down there" most awkward thing ever said by atc
Red Lead this is Red 4. We're gonna need to use harpoons and tow cables and we need two pulses from the Ion Cannon heading two five.
Those trucks had to be absolutely flying down the taxiways and runway. KDEN is massive.
The engineers at the emergency response station strapped a jet engine each on those trucks so they're booking it at 400km/h on ground
It is mandated by ICAO for all international airports that first responding ARFF unit has to arrive on scene within three minutes of the alert (including dispatch and time to roll-out!).
@@QemeH Did not work out in San Fransico when Air Asiana crashed... They even ran over and killed one...
@@Marco-wz3ff As with many things in aviation, we did learn from that mistake and ARFF is trained on the irregular and unpredictable behaviour of panicing crowds now. Especially they are cautioned about the mix of reduced visibility (their own spray/foam or otherwise) and evac on the tarmac.
@@Marco-wz3ff aviation is an ever changing industries, sadly it takes casualties for changes to take effect most of the times, others a simple near miss of life may just be enough. either way, its noones intention to cause casualties, just a mix of things going wrong at the same time.
My Daddy booted at Lackland USAF San Antonio in 1960. FOD were jack-rabbits. (Edit) not just one here one there, there were husks of them. End edit
Baseball bats were handed out during police call.
I think the local orphanage enjoyed rabbit stew, or even rabbit fricassee, but that's just conjecture.
Airport restaurant serves flaming pigeon.
(...) with fire foam purée, and smoking grass salad :v
Sizzling jet fuel soup on the side
@@jr13227 and one glass of water with extra jet fuel.
@@jr13227 freshly seasoned with airplane tire shreds
@@jr13227 not as the alcoholic drink after ??
Thanks #VasAviation love your work especially the detail of the water jets onto the fire.
Red leader! :D
Red leader standing by..... gold leader standing by.....Rhet Buttons standing by...😆
We found'em boy.
Superb level of communications among emergency services, ground, tower - orderly, accurate, responsive, thorough.
What all they wanted to hear was "Red 5 standing by"
Cover my rear, Porkins!
This is a stupid question and I can’t believe it never really occurred to me before, but Is a heading just turning to a compass position? I’ve realized I’ve never heard it go over 360... I always just assumed it was maybe a preprogrammed route through airspace or something.
Very stupid, now that I think about it.
Yes, off of magnetic compass. The preprogrammed route would be airways (Q, T, V, J, color, etc), SIDs or STARs
Volkov Levoski spasibo!
In case you're wrondering how the plane can have 354 on a 772, this is a high-density domestic 772 (UA).
plus with United, they'll put people from economy in the hold underneath
Oh? I thought they just hot-glued you to the airframe?
Also the 386 is pretty 10-4 at the 066 here
Thanks for the videos. It's amazing that I never heard of any of these incidents last year. Was just searching for info on the UPS runway overrun this morning. Guess I don't watch the news much.
We had an engine failure years ago. Due to the Dry grass, The fire was caused by hot fan blades exiting the engine and landing in the dry grass catching fire.
idk why/how this didn't blow up
such beautiful teamwork, i love it
The captain is so cool calm and collective. It’s amazing
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Here we are with another SUPER LONG Sunday video! You can imagine how many hours this took to edit... hope you all like it.
At the very same moment we reach 200 LIKES, Part 2 will be released!!! :D
Seriously?...
226 and no part b to be seen...
You guys didn't give me time... 305 LIKES at this time. Didn't expect them at all. Thank you!!!
+VasAviation Why do you beg for Likes? Totally unnecesary. I really appreciate, that you make these great Videos, but this is the lowest level.
USB-C Enthusiast
I didn't kiss anyone's feet.
Mayday plane inbound.
“It looks like the runway is on fire down there”.
Yikes.
Amazing coincidence that this is the same flight that had the uncontained engine failure a few years later. Wish there was a recording available for the ARFF comms for that event as well.
Nice animation well done
love the work you put into these videos - kudos
Thanks, my pleasure! :)
5 years late: 4:02 - we’ll follow up along the way.
Why? Because i can. :D (i probably am not the first one to say this XD)
Great job by the fire squad, at the same time dealing with the fire, and receiving the emergency return aircraft.
I was actually spotting at the time of this, near 16R. Saw the Southwest changing runway, but missed the 777. :(
DenverAviation another Denver spotter! I was working at DIA (fueler for United) at the time this happened lol
each has his own hobbies, could you talk a bit about why planespotting is something that's exciting for you? Don't get me wrong any hobby that's outside is better than just sitting and watching tv/browsing reddit, something I'm guilty of at times
@@yuriythebest because we love aviation and its cool to see each type of plane (which the typical spotter knows a little about) personally im training to get my pilot liscence but also enjoy plane spotting especially unique ones like old planes or the antonov 225 (largest plane in the world) also not everybody can fly due to medical issues so some people plane spot instead
@@livewellwitheds6885 thanks for the detailed explanation! Hope to see the antonov 225 as well some day since I'm from Ukraine
Finally thanks for adding the Mayday mayday mayday part
You deserve way mare subs dude! The time you out into these videos is amazing 😉! Kudos
You sure that bird wasn't ejected from the plane, United style?
Negative, the birds were not pill pushing doctors with previously suspended medical licenses, so the police did not drag them from the plane. However, they were unarmed black birds so they were immediately killed.
@@2011blueman ah they were up to no good they were hoodlums
How big are these emergency crews? I wonder what the most amount of emergencies at once at an airport was, and how it was handled.
I keep thinking of that air Canada plane trying to land on 4 other planes full of fuel and passengers, can’t imagine how that would’ve been managed
most of the Bravo Taxi-ways were 📪 due to this incident
Bird Strike is the name of my favorite WoW skill
My dad was on 779 operating as UA383 in late April from HNL-DEN... But this one wasn't his flight.
Just checked google earth. Image of this runway is from 5/31/18. they are doing a FOD walk exactly where the strike happened. coincidence.
was it a turkey? a grass fire from a bird strike lead to an uncontained engine failure... wonder what part of the engine it spat out....
Just wondering why Ground needed to ask which engine was which. Isn't it universal that the engines count left to right as seen from behind? Everything I've ever seen has had them numbered this way and never seen anyone feel they had to confirm it.
I've heard a tower operator ask before but I am thinking the same that it is always left to right.
it's likely everyone knew this already but when you are dealing with a possible fire, it's a good idea to eliminate any doubt/confusion. Also, it being a heavy with 354 people, there may have been additional emergency units responding from outside the airport and they may be less familiar with aviation details.
@9:51 its EOC (Emergency Operations Center) not DFD
whats the difference between comms center and unicom and atc?
''' the roof is on fire'''..i mean.. '' runway s on fire ''
But where is Gold Leader?
Came from 2021, looks like Denver doesn’t like United 328’s engine, so it blows up twice in 5 years🙄
Stay on target!
could you upload the atc for the hudson river landing. Hudson Miracle (cptn Sully). Thanks
it's probably on another video (I think)
Without looking I just know there will be star wars comments.
So.. at the end of the tail number or flight number, why Heavy? I would assume a big aircraft?
Heavy is a warning for other aircraft due to "Wake turbulence" effect...
YZFoFittie Thanks for the reply! Was quick. So it warns other aircraft in that frequency ? How long does the turbulence last ? Any idea?
Its not about duration, is about how close other aircraft can follow, since many are on a descending final approach at the same time.
YZFoFittie Oh, Ok! Makes lot more sense! Thanks ;)
No prob, glad to help!
Does anyone know if they ever ended up extinguishing the fires on the runway, or is the whole airport on fire now and they're still just talking back and forth about the size of the fires?
the fires were put out and the airport resumed normal operations following this incident, but sometimes even small fires can spread - if the fire is very serious, the alert will be raised
Don't you just love it, so now it's our time to play with our walkie talkies. Red breaker over and out copy that was that green breaker, over lol
The sun came out so they closed down the airport and broke out the Barbecues while they waited for chief engine 35 to come back from the store with the beers. Good day had by all.
Souls? On board that must be reassuring to hear if you are a living passenger on board
Say number of blades of grass and rabbits in the patch for a grass fire.
i lost track. where did that emergency aircraft went?
Go to Part 2.
He went out some distance to dump fuel.
What is the level of an Alert-2
Why did United 382 requested to confirm the headings at least twice?
they probably had their hands full completing checklists and prepare for emergency landing so maybe they didnt excatly pay attention to ATC
Priorities:
1: Aviate (keep the plane in the air... this includes dealing with what broke)
2: Navigate (point it where you want it to go)
3: Communicate (paying attention to the radio is the lowest priority of a pilot in dealing with an emergency... tell ATC/tower you got a problem and let them deal with keeping everyone else away from you.)
What's a DFD?
Jonathan Lee DFD = Denver Fire Department. That's not what he said, though. He said we have the EOC activated. EOC = emergency operations center, the unified command post.
Hey when did this happen?
10/Jun/2016 according to the beginning of the video
a grass fire in colorado. go figure.
0:55 lol you can hear the atc guy panic for a second when he declared emergency
Over 300 now give give give 😂😂
i thought if the right engine goes, you want to turn left only
D X It's a good idea to avoid it, but not necessary. The faster an airplane moves through the air, the more authority the flight controls have. So if the operating engine is left at full power, and the airspeed slows below a certain point (Vmc) then the pilot will lose control. As long as he keeps speed up, and engine power down, he can turn into the dead engine just fine.
I cannot believe that air traffic controllers don't know something as basic as how aircraft engines are numbered. Some pilots may dumb it down and say left or right engine, but others will refer to number one or number two engine and on up if there are more.
I can't believe the ground controller didn't know how aircraft engines are numbered. This incident is a perfect illustration of why every controller should know that.
I am pretty sure that it is in their training to ask, whether they clearly know or not
Too much ground crew radio talk for me. the video length could have been cut in half
So the fuel just gets dumped somewhere and nobody speaks of it again, how much jet fuel gets dumped on unsuspecting people every year i wonder?
the fuel evaporates in the air before ever reaching the ground, unless they are flying very low.
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An "alert" refers to ARFF classification of an aircraft with an emergency.
Alert 1 is declared when an aircraft has a minor emergency reported of some type.
Alert 2 is declared when there's an emergency declared for something major- such as a loss of systems, engine failure, no gear, etc. ARFF vehicles are staged and will "chase" the aircraft after arrival.
Alert 3 is declared when an actual accident has occurred or is known to going to be occurring. Aircraft inbound with an actual inflight fire. ARFF will be staged and ready to go and local area fire departments are notified and responding.
Poor birds
Hi honey, how was your day?
Some of the guys on the radio take to long to communicate effectively.
Should not key your mic until you know what you’re going to say- in a quick, clear manner. You’re professionals for God sake- act like it.
Most ground personnel do not have the sort of training on the matter as pilots do, unfortunately.
hope something gets invented that contains the dumped fuel and parachutes it down to limit the enviro contamination and conserve the valuable gas
Yes, they could dump it into a containment tank in the back of the plane.
Oh no more aviation gabble...
Red fox to flying turnip....
5467 tango tango..yes please darling...
I thought radio communication should be clear and stoccato.
These conversations are blurred
Flying turnip UfO.
"Are you still with me??" Completely incompetent handling of aircraft itself still in air with one engine and 354 people. The grind and fire guys were laughable, sir this and sir that.
BobEckert56 what are you talking about?
"It looks like the runway's on fire down there" most awkward thing ever said by atc