I have a Tesla, love the company and love how far they've got. However, 1 & 2 were clear issues. I see people complaining about driver over-reactions, but I disagree. I know there are different levels of aggressiveness in terms of human drivers, but I'm like the driver here, very cautious and defensive (reason why I haven't been in any accidents in my 20 years driving). I'd like Tesla to be the same way, and if it isn't everyone's cup of tea, at least let me decide if I want the car to be more cautious and defensive. I know there is a setting in the car, but it doesn't seem to work all the time (I've had a few minor issues with this during my FDS trial)
Yes, this is exactly what I thought. I've never had an accident and don't want one with my Tesla. I've tried all settings from Chill to Assertive, sometimes they are aggressive but sometimes too hesitant. The new FSD is good but not 100% reliable.
Thanks for your video. I like my Tesla. And yes I am a new to FSD with the free trial. Those who have used FSD for awhile sees the improvements. However FSD has a long way to go. It is not intuitive or natural enough to be truly self driving. A system relying on painted lines can only be good as the lines. In fact the autopilot cruise in my 2019 Volvo is better than my Tesla.
My Tesla was cutting people off at lane merges, phantom braking for no reason, driving at 14 mph in a 35 zone, and I got honked at a lot so I stopped trying out the “FSD”.
I don't know, 1) their car in the right lane was quite far behind you. 2) you didn't let it get far enough to see what it would have done, 3) the road markings were odd like a snake, 4) clearly looked like the car would break the law crossing over yellow lines, so it was confused. But rightly so. These would be the case for human drivers as well. This is where FSD will have an interesting time, because these use cases pop up with human drivers. There is no real right or wrong for either human or robot. It all comes down to experience, and the amount of risk taken.
"you did'nt let it get far enough to see what it would have done" translation you did'nt let the tesla crash but i don't care its not my car and i j.erk off to elon everyday.
1) It was less than 1ft away when I passed it. It is not safe by any standard. 2) It should wait until the other car passes. 3) Human drivers can drive properly with that road marking and FSD can't handle it? 4) FSD might be right this time. It almost came to a stop but FSD should be disengaged and ask me to take over. Again, I like using FSD most of the time but it is not perfect and Tesla owners shouldn't take any risk driving it.
These incidents are just you not trusting the software. It's pushing your safety limits, learn to adapt to it's safety limits. It regularly passes with less than 4 inches of clearance but almost never hits another vehicle. Watch out for them pesky curbs tho, it ignores them sometimes.
No no no no no! That is plain stupid! The software CAN NOT BE TRUSTED! And it is NOT pushing your safety limits. It is just plain dumb and stupid to push things, to make things less safe, to be erratic, to do stupid moves.
no.1, the car coming was far enough away it probably would have been fine if it accelerated hard enough. no.2, it wasn't trying to pass that slow, it was waiting for other traffic, and it will have turned sharper after knowing its clear, it was just being a bit hesitant. no.3, it's a common problem with v12 snaking between lanes, was no need to disengage because you already stopped? And No.4, i really didn't see a problem apart from being a bit close to the barrier.
You obviously don’t use FSD downtown a lot so take it from someone who does. Not one of those was going to result in any problem. The car knows its clearance well, and obviously when in Assertive, but especially any tight downtown scenario, it drives assertively. The snaking back and forth at the end is definitely awkward but you disengaged before it got up to the rear bumper of the car ahead. It often slows down like it did and then creeps up to the next car. It may seem uncomfortable to a human but the truth is if every car did this in major cities it would help a lot with traffic flow because more cars would fit in the same amount of road. Anyways I don’t blame you for disengaging, you have to follow your gut and not let the car do anything you don’t feel is safe. I just wanted you to know that you just might have an incompatible tolerance for safe in certain driving scenarios the car has been optimized to really be the precision machine it is
look its a butthurt tesla fan trying to make excuses for a computer that can't drive properly. no suprise. you learn when your fsd tesla crashes and your tesla fan buddies come and blame YOU.
Many not so clever interventions from the driver, and also some inaccurate comments, but I guess it was a risk while enabling FSD *supervised* for one month to all Tesla drivers. Sadly we do not know what settings have been chosen via the UI (respect of speed limits, chill or normal or bold behaviour, etc.). Anyway, as for autopilot, you have to take control *before* being at risk ie when you *anticipate* that there is a risk, eg when the road if difficult to "read" even for a human. Testing FSD limits is not a normal FSD usage. But sure, there is a lot of space for improvement.
The speed limit is set automatically and I often switch between Average and Assertive. Many people can accept this driving style but it is over my limit, many drivers felt annoyed by my car. If this is a driving test, I don't think it will pass.
The driving was true but the conclusions were wrong. FSD has more precise handling than your driving habits. That is why it was said FSD is better than most of drivers.
Proof of what exactly? That the system isn’t perfect yet? Maybe we’re just tired of angry fools making up nonsense about a truly remarkable technology that will save many lives.
@@JamesBond-qv2ht did'nt elon just change the entire code which is a roadblock and failure in fsd, why is he rolling out free fas and slashing prices and has demand issues with high supply issues?? its not because fsd is all of sudden ready coincedentally with the failing business. Remember in 2019 presentation he made a lot of promises which promted many many people to buy fsd? well he scammed them: - He lied about fsd being conpletely hands free by 2020. - he lied again about the best chip in the world being in every tesla. - lied about 2020 roll out of uber like robo taxis in some parts of US, never happened. - lied about promising that there would be "over a million robotaxis on the road... a year from now (2020). Over a million cars will have fsd a year from now... these cars will have level 5 autonomy with no geofencing and able to drive anywhere in the planet under any conditions". -"Tesla robo taxis could generate over 30k per customer".... Lie. -"Tesla could last a million miles while requiring minimal maintance"... huge lie. not a singel tesla has reached a 1 million miles without needing a new battery or motor or an overhaul of tech. -he said in an article all teslas had the hardware capable and ready for FSD, all they needed to do was "flip a swith" and push a software update and it could turn an estimated 400k vehicles into FULL SELF DRIVING VEHCLES.... this was almost 5 years ago. They just deleted all the code! and went with video learning... So that means everyone who purchased fsd in 2019 after the scam elon claimed should be refunded. It amazes me how customes think they know FSD inside and out and make some absolute BS like its "self learning" when tesla just deleted the entire code running the software, so they are all just getting high off of sniffing elons balls and making stuff up about AI like religious hippies speak about some diety.
@@JamesBond-qv2ht yet, its not yet, its the fact that you are all brainwashed into thinking we will actually have an AI that is able to drive as good as human intelligence. Its literal bollocks. This tech was promised by elon musk to be ready by 2020. they recently deleted the entire code for the system that existed back when elon made all those ridiculous claims about FSD being robo taxi. I have used FSD and autopilot. its exactly as anyone would expect for a AI, no where near ready or even remorely close to a human level AI. because thats what you need. if they can make that level of AI then clearly they can start cloning humans.
Overreactions based on unfamiliarity with the system and comfort rather than safety. Tesla is very clear that the system is imperfect and requires supervision. Your video title is a bit clickbaity.
The clickbait is Elon and Tesla, that says "Full Self Driving", and also the said "Self driving next year" every year for almost ten years. And also Tesla faked self driving video several years ago. And also that Beta shit is ridiculous. Not even close a true Beta. And supervised? FULL SELF driving SUPERVISED?! That is the definition of an oxymoron. No, this will never be anything self driving. It is all a scam. A hoax. A way of pumping stocks.
I paid $2000 in 2007 just to get navigation (CD Disk) in my Honda SUV and $200 every two yrs thereafter for updates. So your 1k comment is ridiculous. BTW I still have the SUV.
@@2003wvlee regardless of what you say, it won't change my opinion, for me its not worth paying all that, if you think its worth it go ahead and pay....
It's great on the highway when doing long-distance travel and especially if driving at night in the rain -- it can see the lane markings better than I can. It's not perfect on city streets, but it continuously improves. I find myself using it more and more now that the latest version has come out. Btw: I payed 7k for it.
I have a Tesla, love the company and love how far they've got. However, 1 & 2 were clear issues. I see people complaining about driver over-reactions, but I disagree. I know there are different levels of aggressiveness in terms of human drivers, but I'm like the driver here, very cautious and defensive (reason why I haven't been in any accidents in my 20 years driving). I'd like Tesla to be the same way, and if it isn't everyone's cup of tea, at least let me decide if I want the car to be more cautious and defensive. I know there is a setting in the car, but it doesn't seem to work all the time (I've had a few minor issues with this during my FDS trial)
Yes, this is exactly what I thought. I've never had an accident and don't want one with my Tesla. I've tried all settings from Chill to Assertive, sometimes they are aggressive but sometimes too hesitant. The new FSD is good but not 100% reliable.
Thanks for your video. I like my Tesla. And yes I am a new to FSD with the free trial. Those who have used FSD for awhile sees the improvements. However FSD has a long way to go. It is not intuitive or natural enough to be truly self driving. A system relying on painted lines can only be good as the lines. In fact the autopilot cruise in my 2019 Volvo is better than my Tesla.
My Tesla was cutting people off at lane merges, phantom braking for no reason, driving at 14 mph in a 35 zone, and I got honked at a lot so I stopped trying out the “FSD”.
Moving like a snake between lanes, I had that too a few times.
I don't know, 1) their car in the right lane was quite far behind you. 2) you didn't let it get far enough to see what it would have done, 3) the road markings were odd like a snake, 4) clearly looked like the car would break the law crossing over yellow lines, so it was confused. But rightly so. These would be the case for human drivers as well. This is where FSD will have an interesting time, because these use cases pop up with human drivers. There is no real right or wrong for either human or robot. It all comes down to experience, and the amount of risk taken.
"you did'nt let it get far enough to see what it would have done" translation you did'nt let the tesla crash but i don't care its not my car and i j.erk off to elon everyday.
1) It was less than 1ft away when I passed it. It is not safe by any standard.
2) It should wait until the other car passes.
3) Human drivers can drive properly with that road marking and FSD can't handle it?
4) FSD might be right this time. It almost came to a stop but FSD should be disengaged and ask me to take over.
Again, I like using FSD most of the time but it is not perfect and Tesla owners shouldn't take any risk driving it.
You arm being overly dramatic
I agree
1 & 2 were critical, 3&4 were not really creating danger......
1 why critical? Just decision to get around the car, and use the turn signal and there are no trafic in the other lane.
These incidents are just you not trusting the software. It's pushing your safety limits, learn to adapt to it's safety limits. It regularly passes with less than 4 inches of clearance but almost never hits another vehicle. Watch out for them pesky curbs tho, it ignores them sometimes.
No no no no no! That is plain stupid!
The software CAN NOT BE TRUSTED!
And it is NOT pushing your safety limits. It is just plain dumb and stupid to push things, to make things less safe, to be erratic, to do stupid moves.
no.1, the car coming was far enough away it probably would have been fine if it accelerated hard enough. no.2, it wasn't trying to pass that slow, it was waiting for other traffic, and it will have turned sharper after knowing its clear, it was just being a bit hesitant. no.3, it's a common problem with v12 snaking between lanes, was no need to disengage because you already stopped? And No.4, i really didn't see a problem apart from being a bit close to the barrier.
Snaking? it keept a distance to the bike in the road..
@@4theistInfidel it was just after that toward the intersection
@@KarmaKemitiscooli see :) didnt see any danger. But sure could be improved.
lol none of the 4 were disengagements that avoided accidents
You obviously don’t use FSD downtown a lot so take it from someone who does. Not one of those was going to result in any problem. The car knows its clearance well, and obviously when in Assertive, but especially any tight downtown scenario, it drives assertively. The snaking back and forth at the end is definitely awkward but you disengaged before it got up to the rear bumper of the car ahead. It often slows down like it did and then creeps up to the next car. It may seem uncomfortable to a human but the truth is if every car did this in major cities it would help a lot with traffic flow because more cars would fit in the same amount of road. Anyways I don’t blame you for disengaging, you have to follow your gut and not let the car do anything you don’t feel is safe. I just wanted you to know that you just might have an incompatible tolerance for safe in certain driving scenarios the car has been optimized to really be the precision machine it is
look its a butthurt tesla fan trying to make excuses for a computer that can't drive properly. no suprise. you learn when your fsd tesla crashes and your tesla fan buddies come and blame YOU.
@@deficator750 3 comments deep and I can confirm you are the one with the sore back end 😂
@@muddy6932 Well, his nickname is "deficator" so it seems like a lot comes out of his back end.
@@kenbob1071 how did I miss that detail 😂
@@kenbob1071 and straight into your face
Many not so clever interventions from the driver, and also some inaccurate comments, but I guess it was a risk while enabling FSD *supervised* for one month to all Tesla drivers. Sadly we do not know what settings have been chosen via the UI (respect of speed limits, chill or normal or bold behaviour, etc.). Anyway, as for autopilot, you have to take control *before* being at risk ie when you *anticipate* that there is a risk, eg when the road if difficult to "read" even for a human. Testing FSD limits is not a normal FSD usage. But sure, there is a lot of space for improvement.
YEs but no. FSD won't improve if you don't push its limits
The speed limit is set automatically and I often switch between Average and Assertive. Many people can accept this driving style but it is over my limit, many drivers felt annoyed by my car. If this is a driving test, I don't think it will pass.
The driving was true but the conclusions were wrong. FSD has more precise handling than your driving habits. That is why it was said FSD is better than most of drivers.
look at all the tesla fanboys trying to defend fsd. so pathetic. Theres freaking video proof.
Proof of what exactly? That the system isn’t perfect yet? Maybe we’re just tired of angry fools making up nonsense about a truly remarkable technology that will save many lives.
@@JamesBond-qv2ht did'nt elon just change the entire code which is a roadblock and failure in fsd, why is he rolling out free fas and slashing prices and has demand issues with high supply issues?? its not because fsd is all of sudden ready coincedentally with the failing business. Remember in 2019 presentation he made a lot of promises which promted many many people to buy fsd? well he scammed them:
- He lied about fsd being conpletely hands free by 2020.
- he lied again about the best chip in the world being in every tesla.
- lied about 2020 roll out of uber like robo taxis in some parts of US, never happened.
- lied about promising that there would be "over a million robotaxis on the road... a year from now (2020). Over a million cars will have fsd a year from now... these cars will have level 5 autonomy with no geofencing and able to drive anywhere in the planet under any conditions".
-"Tesla robo taxis could generate over 30k per customer".... Lie.
-"Tesla could last a million miles while requiring minimal maintance"... huge lie. not a singel tesla has reached a 1 million miles without needing a new battery or motor or an overhaul of tech.
-he said in an article all teslas had the hardware capable and ready for FSD, all they needed to do was "flip a swith" and push a software update and it could turn an estimated 400k vehicles into FULL SELF DRIVING VEHCLES.... this was almost 5 years ago.
They just deleted all the code! and went with video learning... So that means everyone who purchased fsd in 2019 after the scam elon claimed should be refunded. It amazes me how customes think they know FSD inside and out and make some absolute BS like its "self learning" when tesla just deleted the entire code running the software, so they are all just getting high off of sniffing elons balls and making stuff up about AI like religious hippies speak about some diety.
@@JamesBond-qv2ht yet, its not yet, its the fact that you are all brainwashed into thinking we will actually have an AI that is able to drive as good as human intelligence. Its literal bollocks. This tech was promised by elon musk to be ready by 2020. they recently deleted the entire code for the system that existed back when elon made all those ridiculous claims about FSD being robo taxi. I have used FSD and autopilot. its exactly as anyone would expect for a AI, no where near ready or even remorely close to a human level AI. because thats what you need. if they can make that level of AI then clearly they can start cloning humans.
Overreactions based on unfamiliarity with the system and comfort rather than safety. Tesla is very clear that the system is imperfect and requires supervision. Your video title is a bit clickbaity.
The clickbait is Elon and Tesla, that says "Full Self Driving", and also the said "Self driving next year" every year for almost ten years. And also Tesla faked self driving video several years ago. And also that Beta shit is ridiculous. Not even close a true Beta. And supervised? FULL SELF driving SUPERVISED?!
That is the definition of an oxymoron.
No, this will never be anything self driving. It is all a scam. A hoax. A way of pumping stocks.
At this point you gotta ask: do these Muskboys even watch the video?
@@kennys4100 watching a video and understanding it in context are not the same thing. Sorry if I just went over your head.
its unbelievable how someone can pay 12k to have system like that, I wouldn't pay 1k fot it....
I paid $2000 in 2007 just to get navigation (CD Disk) in my Honda SUV and $200 every two yrs thereafter for updates. So your 1k comment is ridiculous. BTW I still have the SUV.
@@2003wvlee regardless of what you say, it won't change my opinion, for me its not worth paying all that, if you think its worth it go ahead and pay....
@@dropded Yeah, I wouldn't pay 12k for a beta software either but 2-3k, yes. The final version, Yes to 12k- whenever that be.
It's great on the highway when doing long-distance travel and especially if driving at night in the rain -- it can see the lane markings better than I can. It's not perfect on city streets, but it continuously improves. I find myself using it more and more now that the latest version has come out. Btw: I payed 7k for it.
It has dropped to $100/month now.