Top Mount Vs. Drop Through Longboards | Which one should you buy!?!

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  • @julitopaz
    @julitopaz 3 роки тому +51

    Hi dude. Awesome review. I started with the longboard in 2019 (at 49 years old) and the deck with drop through was very practical for me to learn to push, have balance and stability on the deck. I use both decks only for cruising (top mount and drop trough). For easier cruising, I use drop through. to work more thrust and flex the knee more, I use the top mount. Thanks for all your reviews. Regards from Argentina

    • @recemottashed8114
      @recemottashed8114 3 роки тому +3

      That’s awesome dude! Just goes to show you age is just a number! I just started longboarding this year after not skating for more than a decade lol, not that I was even a good skater before lol

    • @AMG777
      @AMG777 Рік тому

      viva argentina longboarding is pretty big in argentina

    • @J-Rod73
      @J-Rod73 7 місяців тому

      This is an inspirational comment!! I'm 50 and just now starting to skateboard with my 15 year old son. I bought a Landyachtz Drop Cat 38 and so far it's been alot of fun!! Cheers!! 🤙

  • @joshstarkey8883
    @joshstarkey8883 2 роки тому +12

    One huge thing you missed is how much better a low deck is for pushing and footbraking. You can push faster and longer when you don't have to squat down so far with your leg that's on the board, and it's easier to maintain stability and balance footbraking.
    The carving thing is true but I think a little misleading. Yes you have more leverage on a topmount, it's a quicker and more aggressive feeling turn. You can get plenty of turn out of dropped boards too though if you set your trucks up right. I personally don't think I'm missing anything on a dropped board turning wise, and I really like the stability and easier, faster pushing. The foot positions you can get with topmounts are nice though, you get the whole surface of the board to play with. I know a lot of really good downhill riders prefer them too.

    • @nyhyl
      @nyhyl 7 місяців тому

      Yes however the reason why I prefer topmounts is that they are sooo much better for pumping. I have a Loaded Vanguard and a Dervish Sama and the Vanguard just pumps on god level.

  • @NoahLavineASP
    @NoahLavineASP 3 роки тому +9

    One of the problems I have with my drop-through board is when I'm kicking off aggressively sometimes my back foot touches the back wheel because it is exposed. It's easy to fix, but for a beginner it's something to keep in mind. Well this has never been a huge problem I can imagine the worst case scenario is that you stop the board and fall forward because your foot stops one of the back wheels.

    • @societyisboring
      @societyisboring Рік тому +1

      Their is no worst case scenario just you failing

  • @NoahLavineASP
    @NoahLavineASP 3 роки тому +11

    I knew what I wanted to do when I started longboarding for real. I've been on and off skateboarding for years but decided to get serious. I didn't know buying a drop through deck was for me when I did get it. But I was lucky I chose the right board for my style: Edit: I did break my wrist and forearm within a month of getting my longboard, but somehow that accident made me even more confident in my abilities 🤣.

  • @SouthsideSox007
    @SouthsideSox007 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m 26 and my dad’s 57. He gets around super good and we just started longboarding together. As a newcomer, I’d advise a drop through for your first purchase. Being low to the ground does wonders for your balance. Once your balance is out the way the practice is easy for everything else

  • @kevinsebastian3422
    @kevinsebastian3422 4 роки тому +29

    this actually helped a lot

  • @queeny5613
    @queeny5613 3 роки тому +5

    Ive just bought a pintail as Im utterly sick of my local area and my skateboard which I love to bits just can't handle the roads around me. I can't wait!!!

  • @just_rolla5773
    @just_rolla5773 3 роки тому +2

    I bought a flexible pintail and put sidewinder 2’s on it and it’s so easy to slide crouched or standing. I have another with the same setup and just bought my first drop thru. Stuck the same trucks on it and squared wheels, the ride is so smooth and enjoyable

  • @societyisboring
    @societyisboring Рік тому +3

    Axis 40 is a dropthrough that does everything extreme speed, awesome carving, and all-around perfect. Also your hands down not everyone agrees top mount is better to each their own. I can do everything you can do on top down on a drop through❤

  • @gusgetoutofheregus3332
    @gusgetoutofheregus3332 4 роки тому +30

    Your chanel is so underrated cool vid

  • @1MantisPhoenix
    @1MantisPhoenix Рік тому +2

    Thanks, trying to get a drop through rayne demonseed, for LDP life in cape town South AFrica;

  • @collinfrazier5382
    @collinfrazier5382 3 роки тому +4

    I have a drop through with about an inch of clearance and I just bought a top mount 48 inch cruiser. I think I prefer the drop through

  • @ypaut
    @ypaut 2 роки тому +1

    0:03 why though?

  • @gracecoyne3851
    @gracecoyne3851 2 роки тому +2

    I'm new to longboarding and in the process of deciding what to buy. I like the idea of the stability of a drop through, and am looking to do carving and eventually downhill once I get better at riding it. What complete board or board and seperate hardware would you suggest I buy? Thanks!

  • @abdelhakelmaizi247
    @abdelhakelmaizi247 4 роки тому +18

    Do skate vlogs
    Cruising around in the city and stuff

  • @polievocka1
    @polievocka1 4 роки тому +8

    So its like:"Do you want better stability or ability to turn better?"?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому +5

      Yes, but it’s not necessarily so black and white either. Most boards favor one of those, but you can still find boards with a pretty good balance between the two

  • @tylerrowley5517
    @tylerrowley5517 4 роки тому +20

    Review the fat tail :)

  • @js_programmer8423
    @js_programmer8423 3 роки тому +1

    are long boards able to go longer distances on a flat surface road vs the distance of a cruiser board?.. I usually gotta keep pushing every 2 secs on my cruiser

  • @Shad0wmoses
    @Shad0wmoses 4 роки тому +2

    if you dont already you should try snowboarding man. that carving cruising feeling you get longboarding is also there when snowboarding. nothing beats great mountain conditions and powder, its like carving on clouds.

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому +1

      You know I’ve always wanted to give it a shot, especially since I’m in Minnesota haha! I think I’m gonna have to actually try it this winter!

    • @aezronalvarez8003
      @aezronalvarez8003 4 роки тому

      Ogden Sikel snowboarding is super fun but kinda hard, but that was before I started to skate, I think it would be pretty ez

  • @chrisz.9974
    @chrisz.9974 2 роки тому

    So if I want to pump a board, which should I go with?

  • @stephen3164
    @stephen3164 3 роки тому +1

    Drop through vs drop down vs double drop longboards? I’m looking for stability, not speed.

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      I’ve personally found drop throughs to provide enough stability for me

  • @RanielleCalais
    @RanielleCalais 3 роки тому +1

    You just helped a brazilian haha!
    I couldn't find this type of content in portuguese, talking about the specifics of the Top Mount and Drop Through. This was really useful! Thank you!

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! glad it helped you!

  • @1MantisPhoenix
    @1MantisPhoenix Рік тому

    I don't use my feet on top of my trucks even with a top mount :?

  • @thetschoni3813
    @thetschoni3813 4 роки тому +2

    Can you also make a review of the loaded fattail please?

  • @carsonlikes3884
    @carsonlikes3884 2 роки тому

    What boards did you show in the video?

  • @GamingWithFusion
    @GamingWithFusion 4 роки тому +2

    Top mount vs drop deck?

  • @codytaylor5570
    @codytaylor5570 4 роки тому +2

    just bought a pintail last week. its getting delivered today and im hype hype

  • @symbolsandsystems
    @symbolsandsystems 2 роки тому

    Try Gullwing Sidewinders under your Tan Tien.

  • @manchuk1d
    @manchuk1d 2 роки тому

    Hey man what do you think of Top mounts but on a drop down board?

  • @NeaLopezProductions
    @NeaLopezProductions 2 роки тому

    Is it hard to kick the board up with a top mount or does it make no difference?

  • @desruisseaux18
    @desruisseaux18 3 роки тому +5

    I actually have both from my experience it was easier to learn slide on drop through but as soon i was going high speed i was more stable on my top mount. I would recommend top mount for downhill but for crusing/slide def drop through

  • @michaelg7613
    @michaelg7613 2 роки тому

    Love the content OG. You should upload more often! Vlogs are cool.

  • @xtrol4330
    @xtrol4330 3 роки тому +1

    This video was actually really good, and informative, thank you bro I appreciate you

  • @zyk0758
    @zyk0758 3 роки тому +1

    It might sound dumb, but it scares me to mount into a longboard (idk, I'm scared of falling, and my ballance is pretty bad), would you recommend these as a beginner in order to reinforce balance and learn how to ride?

  • @rahsan8139
    @rahsan8139 4 роки тому +1

    Forgot to mention you can still mount trucks normally with drop throughs

  • @thomasdavis3281
    @thomasdavis3281 3 роки тому

    Can you do tricks with a drop through bored like a kick flip

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      If the drop through board has tails that let you pop the board then it’s possible, though a kick flip would probably be very difficult on that kind of board

  • @aaronflores-kh6lh
    @aaronflores-kh6lh Рік тому

    Ogden Utah??

  • @Hefay
    @Hefay 3 роки тому

    Whats a good board for getting to and from work?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      A loaded icarus would be great for that! There are so many good options out there for that though it’s hard to give you just one

  • @evaone4286
    @evaone4286 4 роки тому +2

    Nice video! Going forward, I saw do what makes you happy. I'll watch what ever you post :P

  • @user-hx2su6hy4m
    @user-hx2su6hy4m 3 роки тому

    Great vid... Going to order my 1st ever type of board with wheels... Going with the zflex shadow lurker drop thru longboard... Your opinion of this board?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      Never heard of it, but it looks pretty nice from the photos…you’ll have to lemme know if you like it!

    • @mikeinnator3360
      @mikeinnator3360 3 роки тому

      Ya high key i was thinking about the z flex surf a gogo but i need a lot of room. Idk if 38 inch is enough room

  • @chloeisis9825
    @chloeisis9825 3 роки тому

    I’m not looking to go super fast and want to improve turns but I also want to be lower to the ground 😅which do you recommend??

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      You can improve turns on either one, but if you wanna be lower to the ground the drop through is the only one that can do that!

  • @SebJr88
    @SebJr88 4 роки тому

    Which is better if I want to do big spins and tiger claws, I didn't realize my first board is a drop through, I'm assuming top mount would be better?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому +1

      Not necessarily. If your drop through has raised tails you shouldn’t have a problem. Even with flat tails you could still do those things. I think the best board for you would maybe be a dancer board though? Those are top mount, and the one I have is amazing at freestyle!

    • @SebJr88
      @SebJr88 4 роки тому

      @@OgdenSikel Thanks for the explaination! Do you have a link to the type of board you're using?

  • @rossweekley7142
    @rossweekley7142 Рік тому

    More videos on spare parts & cleaning your bearings

  • @frxst2997
    @frxst2997 3 роки тому

    Hey i dont know if your gonna answer but which one goes faster? Also can you check out the playshion 39 drop through and see if it can go fast?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      It really depends on the setup, I think either drop throughs or top mounts can go really fast if the overall setup is good

    • @frxst2997
      @frxst2997 3 роки тому

      @@OgdenSikel ok but there is this longboard that I want it’s a drop through freestyle and it’s budget so I want to get it can I go fast on a freestyle and what’s the difference between cruising and freestyle?

    • @frxst2997
      @frxst2997 3 роки тому

      @@OgdenSikel kk thanks

  • @raho6668
    @raho6668 4 роки тому

    Do you think you could recommend a good drop thru board for fast cruising?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому

      I mean, the loaded tan tien is my favorite drop through ever, but it’s pretty pricey. You could check out some rayne boards also they’re pretty high quality

  • @shivamm6741
    @shivamm6741 4 роки тому

    Please can you give me the link of this topmount longboard.....?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому +1

      loadedboards.com/products/fattail-longboard-skateboard

    • @shivamm6741
      @shivamm6741 4 роки тому

      @@OgdenSikel thanks bro

  • @Henry_44
    @Henry_44 2 роки тому +1

    Ayo that intro wtf💀💀💀

  • @jeffmoore759
    @jeffmoore759 4 роки тому

    Does the board have much flex? How much do you weigh?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому

      Which board? The tan tien? It’s prettt flexy but about the perfect amount for me...it’s flex 2 and I weight around 138lbs

  • @crafty4722
    @crafty4722 Рік тому +2

    rip ants

  • @alekswanson7309
    @alekswanson7309 3 роки тому

    That thumbnail background.. isn't it Shred Shack inspired? 😬

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому +1

      This video was uploaded many months before shred shack was even a channel so if anything shred shack was inspired by this thumbnail lol

    • @alekswanson7309
      @alekswanson7309 3 роки тому

      @@OgdenSikel Oh, oke, sorry if I offended you in any way. I guess Shred Shack must have liked your thumbnails a lot then :)

  • @AnthonyOldhandGarcia
    @AnthonyOldhandGarcia 3 роки тому

    I thought with top amounts are only good for speed on downhill boards only? There was a video i watched on "Long boards to choose from."

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      Nope! Here’s a good example: dancing boards. They are top mount because they can have extra surface area for better dancing tricks. Or pin tail boards, which are made for speedy cruising

    • @AnthonyOldhandGarcia
      @AnthonyOldhandGarcia 3 роки тому

      @@OgdenSikel
      Okay so drop through mounts are ideal for speed and stability on downhill races then? Thanks.

    • @AnthonyOldhandGarcia
      @AnthonyOldhandGarcia 3 роки тому

      @@OgdenSikel
      The video i watched was Skate Pro. Longboard downhill Vs. Longboard freeride.

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому +1

      Drop throughs are more versatile and can be good at a lot of things. Most boards made specifically for downhill are top mount and usually a little shorter than other boards to make them easier for sliding and such.

    • @AnthonyOldhandGarcia
      @AnthonyOldhandGarcia 3 роки тому

      @@OgdenSikel Thank you.

  • @Itsgonnabeok4
    @Itsgonnabeok4 Рік тому

    Dang I have to choose 😩 😂

  • @minnn2506
    @minnn2506 4 роки тому

    Hey Ogden nice video, it helped me a lot on choosing my first longboard! If possible, could you do some reviews on bustin boards??

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому +1

      I’d love to! Hopefully I can pick one up soon!

  • @diablohashcraft8040
    @diablohashcraft8040 4 роки тому

    Great video. Split schedule is good for growth. Thanks for posting.

  • @lauralivia3431
    @lauralivia3431 4 роки тому +1

    I personaly like more top mouth bacause of the feelinhg of crusing is better

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah that cruising feeling is really fun!

    • @nyhyl
      @nyhyl Рік тому

      Same! Dropthrough feels too clumsy to me

  • @zeinabdaneshpour1336
    @zeinabdaneshpour1336 3 роки тому

    I'm a begginer and would like to buy an item which is more suitable for me.. I'm thinking if is there any channel to be in contact since my friend want to sell her longboard, but i need to get some help.. if i could send the picture it would have been very nice..but don't know how

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      Hey if you want to message me on Instagram we can chat further if you want, my user name is ogden_sikel

  • @professionalbluebiker
    @professionalbluebiker 2 роки тому

    Lol, bought a longboard and then watched a video on what board to buy. I bought a 38' drop through board, should be all good tho.

  • @6Un6HoLy6
    @6Un6HoLy6 3 роки тому +1

    Recently ordered my first longboard (Landyachtz Battle Axe 38)... planning on slower cruising and carving, so sounds like I didn’t make right choice. Haha Live and learn, I guess! Regardless, thanks for the informative vid!

    • @mikew9788
      @mikew9788 2 роки тому

      I was going to buy this board, why did you not like it?

    • @6Un6HoLy6
      @6Un6HoLy6 2 роки тому

      @@mikew9788 Nah, man, I like it a lot! I was just saying that for how I intended to use it, I should have gone w/ a top mount according to this video. But honestly, I know no different having never ridden another longboard (yet).

    • @mikew9788
      @mikew9788 2 роки тому +1

      @@6Un6HoLy6 I'm picking it up on Friday, I think it will be perfect, I have two magneto pintails that were real cheap but pretty nice, this should be even better

    • @6Un6HoLy6
      @6Un6HoLy6 2 роки тому

      @@mikew9788 Awesome, man. Hope you're enjoying it!

    • @AMG777
      @AMG777 Рік тому

      38 inches? How tall are you if I may ask? I’m 173 cm and I wear size 42

  • @amandafigueroa2500
    @amandafigueroa2500 3 роки тому +1

    That’s what’s up!! I am in the process of re learning to trust my dropstep to take off and I was stumped on which board To go with since it’s been awhile that I’ve sk8td. I don’t wanna get fancy and do jumps and hit rails and half pipes. I just wanna sharpen up my balance and trust feet again, and of course piss people off in town that own small businesses 😂

  • @ChocolateMuffin308
    @ChocolateMuffin308 4 роки тому +5

    Dude, you found ants on the ground, you placed the camera there and ran them over on purpose? Do you need help?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому +3

      hehehehehwehehh

    • @CNFClub
      @CNFClub 4 роки тому +1

      @@OgdenSikel heheheheheheh

    • @twinsnails4983
      @twinsnails4983 4 роки тому

      I don’t get why everybody cares about animals that much. We kill them every single day

    • @tittobo92
      @tittobo92 4 роки тому

      It definitely looks weird but Idk why I dont mind it at all hheheheheheh

    • @whoosh4302
      @whoosh4302 3 роки тому

      you mourn bugs?

  • @realityparkour1645
    @realityparkour1645 2 роки тому

    Get drop though because u can still top mount a drop through kinda lit

  • @goreyboggs
    @goreyboggs 4 роки тому +1

    I agree split is good. But I would like to see Vlog of skate stuff. JMHO. Anyhow you are going something right. Subs are starting to build. Maybe do another channel when you hit 1000 subs?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому

      Great insights, thank you :)

  • @aarushsingh8634
    @aarushsingh8634 4 роки тому

    Can I do tricks on a drop through???

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому

      Yessir!

    • @aarushsingh8634
      @aarushsingh8634 4 роки тому +1

      @@OgdenSikel Bro if u dont mind could you plz do a vid of some basic tricks for drop throughs? It would be hella helpful.

    • @whoosh4302
      @whoosh4302 3 роки тому

      @@aarushsingh8634 i second this

  • @bobgoogwin123
    @bobgoogwin123 3 роки тому +1

    NO THE ANTS OH GOD OH FUCK ITS A MASSACRE

  • @tangentphoenix
    @tangentphoenix 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for the vid

  • @nicholasnorris3210
    @nicholasnorris3210 Рік тому +1

    This dude sounds like badger ngl

  • @DonJuankas
    @DonJuankas 3 роки тому +2

    Nice explication but I don't like when you kill the ants.

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      lol it was a one time thing

  • @aezronalvarez8003
    @aezronalvarez8003 4 роки тому +2

    I cant think of anymore video suggestions 😪

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому +1

      It’s aight I still got a decent list of videos😆👍

  • @ivanrivero5882
    @ivanrivero5882 4 роки тому

    ty 4 this vidd. it helped a lott

  • @eBoard3R
    @eBoard3R 2 роки тому

    🤙🏼👌🏼👌🏼🤙🏼

  • @fernandopc315
    @fernandopc315 3 роки тому

    Thanks a lot!

  • @Splat654
    @Splat654 2 місяці тому

    Bro why you kill those ants😰

  • @morklai115
    @morklai115 3 роки тому

    Can you dance on a drop through?

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  3 роки тому

      Yes! But it’s not always the best dancing experience. I started learning dancing on my drop through so you for sure can tho

  • @minnn2506
    @minnn2506 4 роки тому

    Do a introduction/get to know you video!

  • @tylertjd5881
    @tylertjd5881 4 роки тому +1

    this dude is wearing the exact same shoes i wear and is riding the exact same board i own wtf

    • @whoosh4302
      @whoosh4302 3 роки тому +1

      hello. welcome to Earth-6379. you are from alternate universe Earth-2700. this youtuber is you, in another world.

  • @astrosheepy3906
    @astrosheepy3906 3 роки тому

    Drop throughs are very fun but most off them snap and crack verry fast.

    • @whoosh4302
      @whoosh4302 3 роки тому +1

      really? can you tell me why? im getting one next week. just for cruising and longboard tricks btw. im not interested in hills

    • @astrosheepy3906
      @astrosheepy3906 3 роки тому

      @@whoosh4302 well they will last longer depending on how light you are, but i broke 3 nkd drop through longboards within 1-3 months because of doing some tricks now and then, and the tail of my loaded tan tien flex 1 just split in 2, so yeah i dont have a very good relationship with drop throughs 😂, but ive currently lost a lot of weight and use 2 different tan tiens for freestyle and they seem to be holding up now just fine except for stress cracks.

    • @whoosh4302
      @whoosh4302 3 роки тому

      @@astrosheepy3906 I'm 114lbs. do you think that's okay? and what kind of tricks were you doing?

    • @astrosheepy3906
      @astrosheepy3906 3 роки тому

      @@whoosh4302 dont worry, trash your board all you want with that weight your board will hold up for a decade, and i was just doing some tiger claws and no complys, shuvits, some basic tricks

    • @whoosh4302
      @whoosh4302 3 роки тому +1

      @@astrosheepy3906 thank you soo much for the help

  • @309-btr8
    @309-btr8 3 роки тому +1

    Poor Ants...

  • @StijnD_Man
    @StijnD_Man 5 місяців тому

    Intro psychotic as fk

  • @xandan55
    @xandan55 4 роки тому +3

    Do some actual skateboard

  • @kolowar6600
    @kolowar6600 3 роки тому +4

    WTFFFF WAS THAT INTRO

  • @rahsan8139
    @rahsan8139 4 роки тому

    Your tuck is scary I can just see you accidentally scraping it

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому

      oh I wasn't tucking, that was just me chillin

    • @rahsan8139
      @rahsan8139 4 роки тому

      @@OgdenSikel scaring me like that

  • @Ostrich420
    @Ostrich420 4 роки тому

    Bbc im extremely late

  • @danielarrington6387
    @danielarrington6387 2 роки тому

    Had to run over the Ants :/

  • @tristan.parrish
    @tristan.parrish 3 роки тому

    Nice video intro lmaoo

  • @latetodagame1892
    @latetodagame1892 3 роки тому

    You don't know what carving is.

  • @np51486
    @np51486 4 місяці тому

    wtf is that intro bruh 😭

  • @thetschoni3813
    @thetschoni3813 4 роки тому +3

    Good video but killing animals unnecessarily is just not cool. Sure you can do better!

    • @nate6889
      @nate6889 4 роки тому

      stfu

    • @xmashed0potatox157
      @xmashed0potatox157 4 роки тому

      🐜 💀

    • @thetschoni3813
      @thetschoni3813 4 роки тому

      Nathaniel Walker why? Am i wrong?

    • @twinsnails4983
      @twinsnails4983 4 роки тому +2

      @@thetschoni3813 It’s it’s literally a bug every time you get in a car you kill them but they reproduce in mass numbers so it doesn’t really matter

    • @thetschoni3813
      @thetschoni3813 4 роки тому +1

      @@twinsnails4983 thats not the Point for me. Killing animals just for fun is something totally different than the example you mentioned in which it is just not possible to avoid it

  • @damichl9684
    @damichl9684 4 роки тому +3

    hate the intro

    • @OgdenSikel
      @OgdenSikel  4 роки тому

      Successfully inciting emotion through a work of art is a high form of praise, so thank you.