How STRONG Did Sosuke Aizen Become in TYBW? The ULTIMATE Shinigami Returns | Bleach Discussion
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Sosuke Aizen makes his glorious return in TYBW, but is he stronger than when he fought Ichigo? With what little time we get with him, he manages to show off the new heights of his power - let's take a look at the return of Bleach's biggest villain, and how he's ascended to a new status of strength.
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How powerful do you think Aizen became by the TYBW Arc? Is he still a hybrid being? Let me know your thoughts on where Aizen sits on the hierarchy of Bleach's strongest characters by the end of the series!
Awesome analysis!
I think Ichigo, Aizen and Zaraki are on the same tier of power(transcendent)but with Aizen's immortality, he has quite the advantage.
Definitely still a hybrid being, and probably stronger than he was at the end of Deicide, just like I think Ichigo in TYBW came to far outstrip his power during Deicide.
@@kanoreese1253 Just cause you are inmortal does not mean you can't be beaten into a pulp.
There are types of inmortality.
In Aizens case it seems to be just physicical inmortality, in that he won't die from regular means. But he can still be injured, incapacitated, absorbed and sealed or defeated.
@@MrGksarathy I disagree...
Aizen vs yhwach needs to be extended in the anime
Yes!
And "Welcome To *My* Soul Society" and Yhwach reaction would just be perfect.
Can't wait for Aizen's theme on the background as he goes Hadō #99
Why? Extended means we get the same outcome with filler stuff. IT NEEDS COMPLETE REWRITING. We need a true conclusion to Aizen's fate after tybw, not just him dissolving in Bach's fart juices.
It better be extended or I’m gonna be pissed the hell off. It was far too short and we deserved to see Aizen go nuts against Ywach
that is what I want the most in the anime. I really want to see them have a full on battle and have Ichigo and Renji come in when Aizen starts to become overwhelmed. It would be even better if we saw Aizen's bankai.
I will say out of the various appearances of Aizen, the supposed seals created to restrain him as a prisoner to the Soul Society inadvertently just make him look so much cooler.
It's my favorite aizen design, second is the parasol aizen from bbs
It's the Alucard Effect. The more bound up a strong character is when they style all over everyone the cooler they are. Within a degree of reason and proper writing up to that point.
And stronger, in all likelihood. It's just like what happened to Frieza in Super, except with maybe more self-reflection and genuine respect for his main character.
My favourite design of Aizen is still Soul Society Aizen with the glasses. That appearance has him be the most threatening.
@@oxcare5mines is when he wore the black hoodie he got from kisuke to spy on isshin and when he says he will stand atop after he breaks the glasses with his captain outfit
While bound to Chair-Sama, Aizen nearly *_casually_* pulled down the Royal dimension by merely flexing his reiatsu.
Had his range not been restricted, the madman would've brought down the Royal palace down to his location.
Mind you, he couldn't have moved out of the way either😂
He was ready to just tank the crush and survive, the same way he sat through a Kurohitsugi that had captains and Sternritter alike, scurrying away in fear.
His reiatsu was completely analyzed by a Sternritter 'U' The Underbelly, basically, once the Shrift completely analyzes one's reiatsu, a mere touch will absolutely kill you. It's an instant death hax, A sealed Aizen merely gets knocked out for a few minutes (even then he's still unapproachable).
So while seated and unmoving, Aizen has some of the best feats in the TYBW arc even without using Kyoka Suigetsu.
😂😂😂
And with Kyoka Suigetsu he fooled a Yhwach with Allmighty active, his perfect hypnosis is just that good.
@@JustAreru That good it was broke after a few seconds
@@thejammyproject Sure that wasn't part of the hypnosis? If it broke he wouldn't have been able to do the whole "You thought you were looking at Kurosaki Ichigo huh? Fascinating"
I suggest you go read the Manga again, he was fighting with his eyes closed which is why it wasnt broken during that initial encounter, ocne they opened KS didnt work after that in the final battle.
Aizen made him think all his eyes were open as we see when he was fighting what he thought was Ichigo then stabbed him for Aizen to be reveald, then Ichigo jumps out slices him but look at that all his eyes are actually closed.
That line of Aizen teasing Yhwach with the "oh? You saw Ichigo did you?" Is by far my favorite Aizen moment. That smile on his face is so cold.
"So you see me as Kurosaki Ichigo? Fascinating.". I cannot wait for when the anime reaches that point in the arc.
And then Yhwach goes like; "Nani?!"
@@Jnd4220That, together with Kenny's bankai will break the internet 😂😂
@@nejdetbulbul40 the new bankais in tybw hit hard asf (kenny, rukia, shunsui)
That black suit he wears basically makes the dude a walking hydrogen bomb. Keeping all that insane Reiatsu close to him is wild.
I wonder if Yhwach saw Ichigo when he stabbed Aizen because Kyoka Suigetsu and the Hogyoku kind of melded abilities. And that his complete hypnosis, in that moment was showing Yhwach what his 'heart desired most' which was killing Ichigo.
I've always thought the scene where Kyoraku undid the seal and Aizen apparently was walking to him was simply a part of Kyoka Suigetsu's hypnosis making it look like he was free to walk around.
That's pretty cool. Never thought about it
That's a good interpretation.
There is no reason to think thats what happened.
That is also what I thought
@@tatocezar1there is all the reason to think that was the case. It's Aizen
Aizen while sitting in a chair and having his power restricted, was able to casually crush a wave of the Soul King's Reiatsu that was somewhat sentient. He has also completely fused with his sword, becoming a truly Transcended Being. And, he was able to fight a Yhwach, who was far stronger then he was when he defeated Ichibe.
Aizen is indeed one of the most powerful characters in the series, and yet we still have not seen the full extent of his power. The man is such a boss, haha!
Indeed. A well written character.
It really makes me want to see him in the possible Hell Arc. Although there needs to be a good reason for him to get involved
@@sanddry738 Isn’t he maintaining the balance of the worlds?
@@phantomzero1982 No. the big issue was Ywach and Aizen had so much Reiatsu they were balancing the overflowing reiatsu in hell. But now that Ywach is dead and Aizen is sealed (so his reiatsu isn’t balancing the plane) the balance has crashed towards hell’s side causing openings to form
@@sanddry738 So who was maintaining the balance during the time skip?
Or was the throne left empty?
My favourite Aizen moment is when after absorbing the Soul King, Yhwach comes down to the Soul Society and is greeted by Aizen, still bound to Chair-sama, saying "I'd like to welcome you to MY Soul Society."
I mean Aizen being fully confident that he could have just brought the Soul King Palace down with just his Reiatsu alone is a huge statement. Imagine the distance between Soul Society and the Soul King Palace. It took Ichigo like 9 hours at full speed to travel that gap.
Aizen is playing the long game. Even restrained his power is lethally dangerous and he's banking on Soul Society's own hypocrisies and secrets do them in. Then he may ascend to godhood.
@@manuelacosta9463 Right? Aizen is immortal, the tiny games played by the G13 don't matter to him anymore.
Not only that, he would need to blast past the 72 barriers and then destroy the palace, which is probably made of very dense reiatsu.
Honestly, I think the implication is that he could free himself at anytime, but he's just curious as to what's going to happen with Ichigo and the rest of soul society now that they managed to contain him. Like Orochimaru with Sasuke. The destructive impulses are weakened and replaced by pure curiosity. Just my take though.
That's my take as well. Like Orochimaru with Naruto and Sasuke, Aizen has developed a real respect for Ichigo and wishes to see how his journey plays out and where his courage takes him.
Here’s to hoping we get to see Aizen and ichigo working alongside eachother in the hell arc
Thats how i understood it too
I'd like to think that, with how philosophical Aizen seems towards the end of the series, he's just been sitting there and reflecting on why he lost and everything that happened. If we go by Ichigo's statement on what the Hogyoku granted him, Aizen wanting to be an ordinary shinigami, perhaps Kyoka Suigetsu did abandon him but eventually Aizen earned back it's trust after a lot of soul searching because it is such an integral part of being a shinigami. He has time in spades now after all.
I think Aizen's battle with Ichigo truly humbled him. Not just in having his evolution stripped away, but maybe even on a self-reflection level. He probably thought to himself how he had gone to such lengths to transcend what it means to be a hollow and a soul reaper, only to be bested by Ichigo and a power he couldn't even comprehend as an evolved being.
I also think the reason why he continued to not show Ichigo his shikai, so he could continue to have Ichigo as a "rival" to always have someone he desires to surpass.
I think the same. Urahara had a "theory" that the hogyoku rejected him. And he said it to spite Aizen. If all of Uraharas theories were right then Aizen wouldn't even get the hogyoku. If Urahara always underestimated the hogyokus abilities (thought it was something that could only hollowfy) and couldn't unfuse the Hogyoku even from a sealed Aizen, then I cant take what he says abt the hogyoku as a fact.
Imo Ichigos theory is correct, he said he sensed loneliness from Aizens sword and he asked Urahara if its possible that Aizen lost because he wanted to lose.
Imo Aizen always "subconsciously" wanted to be a normal soulreaper like Ichigo said and he wanted someone equal, who could defeat him at his best. He also hated the way soulsociety worked and wanted to change things by ruling it. Which kinda also means this equal rival / partner / enemy couldnt be from the soulsociety, because he hates them for submitting to a Seggsdoll. So he was subconsciously hopeful that someone might be born from outside and let Ichigo be born, knowing that he will have great potential because of his special parents + Aizens Kuro Hollow infection. That is also why he speed up Ichigos progress by sending him through hurdles, which Aizen said himself. One could say Aizen is Ichigos godfather and Ichigo wouldnt exist without him let alone get this powerful.
Aizen once outsmarted Urahara... Pretty badly... So its hard to believe one of Aizens experiments which went off rails but Aizen still let progress... Which later he helped grow faster in power by putting different hurdles in front, would coincidentally be strong enough to overpower Aizen at his best (even tho for a little while) without Aizen not predicting any of it. Before he defeated Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi... Aizen told Ichigo that he should be much stronger than this and that all his hurdles were put by Aizen. After he defeated Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi he left Ichigo scared and hopeless but alive like always and without forcefully showing his Sword release to this potential future threat... He showed his release to lieutenants but didn't even try once knowing Ichigo since sperm state and knowing his potential. Almost as if he wants Ichigo to be a rival.. He even went and destroyed the train in the presipest world and later told gin that Ichigo will comeback with new powers. So basically he made ichigo a time chamber... He also wanted to kill ichigos school friends so that he gets even stronger.
And at the end Ichigo surpassed him by a lot (for a little while) all thanks to Aizens time chamber, which even took Aizen by surprise and kinda made him salty. He wanted someone equal but he didn't know this rival would get way ahead. But I think he was subconsciously ok with it Until Mugetsu finished. He saw Ichigo lose his power and subconsciously wished to get weaker like Ichigo. Its similar to Zaraki subconsciously making himself weaker for Unohana because he finally found a worthy Rival. And the Hogyoku granted that wish for Aizen. Just that it wasn't expressed properly outside Ichigos feeling about Aizans sword. Because if they did, then no one would feel the impact of Zaraki and Unohana arc in TYBW. Imo if the hogyoku rejected him then it wouldn't be making him stronger in his sitting sealed state.
And thats what makes sense to me knowing Aizens chara. Sorry for the long post. But this thoroughly explains why I think the Hogyoku didn't reject him haha
@@shahbajmohammad3737 First of all, you can just say sexdoll this isn't youtube wait shit it is
Second of all: calling Reio a sexdoll is gold star material 100/10.
As for the rest: also good commentary. Kind of explains why Aizen got hella strong again, too. "Okay cool I lost. Weird feeling. Novelty has worn off I would like to be hax bullshit again" and the chesticle complies.
@@SinHurr CHESTICLE?????
@@sewerrat11000 lol autocorrect at its finest😂
@@sewerrat11000 my silly name for thr Hogokyu
My head canon is that the Bleach universe ends when Aizen emerges from his 20.000 years sentence, and, to Kyoraku asking him how it feels to be free again, he simply responds with a smirk and two words: "Ban Kai"
😮
That would be perfect! A story without a happy end. OR everything that happened was Aizen his Bankai and he put everyone and everything in a permanend dreamstate.
Bleach is just Aizen's dream and when he uses his bankai the dreamer wakes up
@@RobK0304fuck no not that cop out Naruto ending
Ngl awesome idea
I hope we get to see Aizen in the hell arc, completely unsealed, and see how strong he really is.
Or maybe even better. His "bankai"...
@@DPS_765 so lame that we didn't get to see is bankai. He didn't even used it against the quincy king.
@@Esotericspirits yeah, probably one day we will get to see it
Again the only thing that was holding back is the range of his reiatsu nothing more than that
Aizen will forever be the best manga/anime villain of all time
Facts!!!!!
@ahmadadnan4773 don’t care didn’t ask
I really love Aizen but I really think that Griffith from Berserk was much more darker and has “insane” traits than him.
@@ilayben-simchon7688 Chad butterfly > Femboy. But seriously tho, Griffith is cool as hell.
@@ilayben-simchon7688Griffith is a man child that had trust issues
He could not perform without his boyfriend guys
Smells a lot like Naruto and sasuke
Aizen is just evil incarnate
All I can say - Aizen is the best fictional character ever
I imagine Aizen getting out of prison, they give him a bus ticket and he has to leave Seretei and get a normal job. He works at Soul McDonald’s but no one ever gets their food, he just makes them think they got it. He gets in trouble a lot but his boss just yells at the grill cause she thinks it’s him. Also the shake machine does work, he just makes everyone think it’s broken.
😂
In the end Aizen has time on his hands, Soul Society does not given the very close shave with the TYBW and now hell making itself known alongside who knows what other grim/dangerous secrets the nobility have. Aizen may have been defeated and given a quick breeze of air in the war but his ambitions remain while those in have not learned anything. A dangerous combination.
Fair point. Think hell has allies as well😮
Can you imagine if we get Aizen vs all the dead espada at once
Well Aizen is the king at this point. The man said "you can strap me to a chair but don't make any mistake about it, this is still my soul society"
I always found Aizen to be much more interesting and terrifying when using only his already immense power as a shinigami without any outside influence. It’s something that can’t be taken away or nullified so easily if at all.
Honestly can't wait to see Aizen threatening to shoot down the soul palace animated. It's genuinely going to be so funny
I took the line "So I appear to you as Ichigo Kurosaki", not so much of him not controlling what illusion his opponent sees, but how Yhwach powers work. Yhwach can see the various realities and pick which ones to make real in the current reality. Aizen can control what Yhwach sees in each other reality but Aizen doesn't know which reality Yhwach picked.
Exactly. Aizen knows that Yhwach can pick and choose which future to interact with and he knows that he will always spam Kyouka Suigetsu to counter Almighty, he just has no way of knowing which future Yhwach selected, and therefore which illusion he's seeing.
I always thought that was obvious, so it was interesting to see how many people didn't consider that. It only makes sense. Only one character in the series can see, alter, or interact with the future. The answer to why Aizen didn't know which illusion affected Yhwach is clear, based on that fact alone.
Damn Yhwach sees every future yet he didn't saw how he'll die in an embarassing way🤣
Ywha met the man in muken cause he was skared of him. The man is sealed and yet He broke the Word broken
What I dont understand is how Haschwalth was able to foresee Yhwach's death with borrowed Almighty but Yhwach wasnt.
Haschwalth even saw Ichigo killing Yhwach with his old shikai just like Ichigo ended up doing.
@@Nurix09 I don't remember but its easy to answer if Aizen wasn't around Haschawalth. Yhwach couldn't see the future because its a vision based power and Aizen can obscure what he sees with it.
At his core, Aizen wanted to be a soul king like figure, but not just any soul king - he wanted to retain his 'humanity' and rationality with it. It's his main motivation throughout the entire series - he's discontent with the current soul king, referring to him as a 'thing'. I think the final version of Aizen we see reflects this. We still recognize him as Aizen, and he's still got the personality and mentality with it, but he's also a god-like being. In a sense, the Hōgyoku completely fulfilled his wish of being a person with the power of god who still retains his humanity.
Aizen wasn't sure he was able to use his zanpakuto ability on yhwach because of the almighty. Aizen notes this after ichigo hits Yhwach with getsuga. So it seems the almighty and aizens zanpakuto ability some what counter each other. Yhwach can still see the future, but he doesn't know if it's real or not because of Yhwach, then you have being able to use kyoka but he's unable to control what Yhwach sees
I always thought that Aizen had gone beyond the typical understanding of a soul reaper and had become a completely unique being, unlike any that have had existed before in the four realms (Soul Society, Hueco Mundo, Human World, and Hell). His current status happens to be similar to that of the singular nature of the Soul King, and I have always been curious if there may have been some hidden force (either the soul king himself or underlying power) at play in this development.
Aizen was like another yamamoto... it's like 1 is born every 1000 years... and if two are alive around the same time we're to ever have conflict with eachother than everyone will damn near die in the vicinity of the battle lol
I see Aizen I click
Aizen destroying the soul king reatsu and shocking the rest of the captains and lieutenants is crazy, all of them combined couldn’t deal with it but the moment aizen appears (still sealed) just obliterates all the reatsu
Good analysis on Aizen’s evolution after Diecide into the final arc. It was a great move by Kubo to have him come back and be a foil to Ywach’s ambitions. Having the two most powerful of the series’ villains square off at God-tier levels in the final chapters of the series was a masterstroke.
"And this, Ywach, is to go even further beyond." - Aizen, calmly, before revealing yet another power up.
i wouldn't take any villain over Aizen even if we somehow manage to live through the thousand year blood war of waiting for the "Hell Arc" and it delivers us a great villain then i would still want Ichigo VS Aizen to be the final battle of that arc
Nah I think after TYBW no point of Aizen to fight with Ichigo.What I personally want to see is Aizen becoming Ichigo's son Kazui"s Mentor cuz that kid is fricking OP
@@kenzotenma5226 Imagine Kazui calling him Uncle Aizen.
I honestly think Aizen is just straight up the strongest character in the series on his own. We haven't even seen him use a BANKAI!!!!
Lol @ Bankai in all caps. I said it in my ichigo voice 😂😂😂
@@aceboogy I said it in my Ikaku voice.
@@nasis18 that’s my guy right there! 🤣🤣
@@aceboogy 😆
@sonsonxxiii Fun fact about Ikaku. He is probably the only left-handed shinigami.
I’ve been waiting for this video, thank you
I just always thought that like, just how Ichigo's powers evolved overtime, and his hollow mask went away and became pieces of armor on his outfit to show his growth, that something similar probably happened to Aizen.
Of course, he's merged with his sword now as a transcendent being. So he can activate the powers at will, not have a sword on him, and can kind of just manifest it whenever.
I think that when Aizen initially fused with the Hougyoku, his desire to evolve and transcend soul reapers and hollows was kind of just literally manifested by the stone manifesting his desire into reality. He wanted to keep evolving and turning into something that wasnt a soul reaper or hollow, so it did that power-wise, and in the literal sense with the constant metamorphosis into the eventual monster form. After getting clapped by Ichigo and then being rejected by his sword and the Hougyoku and being more or less reset, his powers probably changed during his time in prison while his was self-reflecting. He was clearly able to re-establish a connection with his zanpakuto. So it stands to reason that he was able to re-connect with the Hougyoku. Only this time maybe his desires to grow and become stronger weren't just a very basic, feral desire to ascend forms over and over. This time his desires led him down a more natural state of mind where the hougyoku responded by just giving him a power boost without the need of changing his physical body.
I like how in the end aizen wins as he is immortal and growing ever stronger hes going to outlive everyone
Yeah Aizen's reiatsu could be like how Starks reiatsu was towards hollows, where its so powerful it kills them just by being near. So if not for the seals, the other shinigami might die if he let loose his reiatsu.
I don’t agree that the Hōgyoku or Zanpakutō ever abandoned him (Zanpakutō especially have shown to be loyal even if they disagree with their master) but instead I believe Aizen loosing it as well as seeing Ichigo merge triggered the last state of a Zanpakutō which is the full fusion.
For now I think the reason why he isn’t evolving like crazy with the Hōgyoku is he’s more so back to first surpassing boundaries as Shinigami and figuring things out before moving forward.
Which is… absolutely terrifying if you think about it. The Soul Society basically has a Nuclear bomb in their inter dimensional basement.
I really hope the TYBW anime expands on Aizen’s scenes or redoes them. Even just seeing Ywach’s conversation with him was a delightful addition to flush things out
I really love your videos, since the manga has been over for a while you've been able to really analyze the source material and answer many questions we all have had. Aizen has returned to the meta. BLEACH always fascinated me simply because the main character is a part of every species in the world he lives in.
I feel like he should be strong enough to the point where he himself could potentially be a candidate as the soul king.
After all the Hōgyoku had pieces of the soul king, via "nails" from can't fear your own world, mixed in. And while he no longer has the Hōgyoku , traces of it must still be there.
Also that it seems like Ichigo is the only one who can face him
The Soul King candidates are hybrid fusions of all the races like Ichigo, Ginjo and Hikone. Now that the Hōgyoku has rejected Aizen he’s no longer a Soul Reaper/Hollow hybrid. If Aizen can regain control of the Hōgyoku he could probably be a candidate.
Its actually explained strength isn't a requirement to be a soul king candidate. You need Reiatsu balanced by all the species. Ie: you need to be part quincy, human, soulreaper, and hollow. Aizen is only soul reaper, and maybe partially hollow.
Ichigo could be an SK candidate cause he's all 4. They state Yhwach wasn't until he absorbed the soul king. But oddly enough Ginjo is one despite being way weaker. Because he's apparently also a hybrid of all 4 species too.
@@knucklecracks2.0he still has hogyoku no?
@@daymianhogue1634 True but traces of the Hōgyoku could potentially still be in Aizen, And the Hōgyoku was made with pieces of the soul king
@@antwiener8658 Yes the Hōgyoku is still fused to Aizen’s body but it no longer acknowledges him as its master and reverted him back to normal.
I love Bleach and have been reading it since I was 14 (I'm 34 now, so.... awhile), but man, of all the amazing world building Kubo did, he did not seem to plan out the timeline of anything in Bleach that much. Soul Societies age, how long captains live, how long people have BEEN captains; there's just so much that was ignored or skipped over. There is a lot that is difficult to reconcile for me, and as someone who focuses on world building in the stories I like, I wish the finer details got ironed out.
Love how in depth you are
Great video, one of the best you’ve done. 🏆 it’s only missing Aizen’s interactions with more of the main cast like Rukia and the other Vice Captains who initially saw him after Shunsui let him out.
Aizen and Yhwach would have battled endlessly for millenia. Reminds me of that saying. "What happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object?"
So this is a theory.... Urahara had a "theory" that the hogyoku rejected him. And he said it to spite Aizen. If all of Uraharas theories were right then Aizen wouldn't even get the hogyoku. If Urahara always underestimated the hogyokus abilities (thought it was something that could only hollowfy) and couldn't unfuse the Hogyoku even from a sealed Aizen, then I cant take what he says abt the hogyoku as a fact.
Imo Ichigos theory is correct, he said he sensed loneliness from Aizens sword and he asked Urahara if its possible that Aizen lost because he wanted to lose.
Imo Aizen always "subconsciously" wanted to be a normal soulreaper like Ichigo said and he wanted someone equal, who could defeat him at his best. He also hated the way soulsociety worked and wanted to change things by ruling it. Which kinda also means this equal rival / partner / enemy couldnt be from the soulsociety, because he hates them for submitting to a Seggsdoll. So he was subconsciously hopeful that someone might be born from outside and let Ichigo be born, knowing that he will have great potential because of his special parents + Aizens Kuro Hollow infection. That is also why he speed up Ichigos progress by sending him through hurdles, which Aizen said himself. One could say Aizen is Ichigos godfather and Ichigo wouldnt exist without him let alone get this powerful.
Aizen once outsmarted Urahara... Pretty badly... So its hard to believe one of Aizens experiments which went off rails but Aizen still let progress... Which later he helped grow faster in power by putting different hurdles in front, would coincidentally be strong enough to overpower Aizen at his best (even tho for a little while) without Aizen not predicting any of it. Before he defeated Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi... Aizen told Ichigo that he should be much stronger than this and that all his hurdles were put by Aizen. After he defeated Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi he left Ichigo scared and hopeless but alive like always and without forcefully showing his Sword release to this potential future threat... He showed his release to lieutenants but didn't even try once knowing Ichigo since sperm state and knowing his potential. Almost as if he wants Ichigo to be a rival.. He even went and destroyed the train in the presipest world and later told gin that Ichigo will comeback with new powers. So basically he made ichigo a time chamber... He also wanted to kill ichigos school friends so that he gets even stronger.
And at the end Ichigo surpassed him by a lot (for a little while) all thanks to Aizens time chamber, which even took Aizen by surprise and kinda made him salty. He wanted someone equal but he didn't know this rival would get way ahead. But I think he was subconsciously ok with it Until Mugetsu finished. He saw Ichigo lose his power and subconsciously wished to get weaker like Ichigo. Its similar to Zaraki subconsciously making himself weaker for Unohana because he finally found a worthy Rival. And the Hogyoku granted that wish for Aizen. Just that it wasn't expressed properly outside Ichigos feeling about Aizans sword. Because if they did, then no one would feel the impact of Zaraki and Unohana arc in TYBW. Imo if the hogyoku rejected him then it wouldn't be making him stronger in his sitting sealed state.
And thats what makes sense to me knowing Aizens chara. Sorry for the long post. But this thoroughly explains why I think the Hogyoku didn't reject him haha
Just imagine aizen , free of the bondage gear , alongside a fully powered ichigo facing ywach , thats what kubo robbed us of . Hopefully the anime corrects that .
Great vídeo man
Great video. One thing I like about the anime is that Yhwach confirmed that Aizen is still merged with the Hogyoku when they talked in anime.
I remember in the Lord they said that if you've achieved bankai, your shikai can come out without command which means technically that activation ritual can be at will
Great video, thoughtful language and a talent for imagery
This was an excellent video, Sensei Tommo, and I just wish Kubo had more time for everything.
Short answer, yes. He remains powerful enough to influence major events. More so than some of the so-called king’s guard.
I'd imagine the suit was put on while Kisuke had him bound, and probably developed by (and placed on him) by Kisuke as well, so that could solve that mystery
It is stated the suit was created by Mayuri
I really love your videos!!
I think the possibility that he gained access to his zanpakuto after his imprisonment by manipulating and appealing to Kyoka Suigetsu in a way only he, the master manipulator that he is, can do. He had two years with presumably only one person/thing to talk to, even if it was pissed at him for ditching it for the hogyoku he has plenty of time to fight it or speak with it for the right to use his ability again.
Idk if this has been said before, but what if that fight between Yhwach and Aizen was a sneaky way of showing Aizen's bankai? His shikai is perfect hypnosis, but Aizen has to decide what the illusion is, meaning it's possible for Aizen to create an illusion that someone wouldn't believe to be true. Maybe his bankai is the same perfect hypnosis, but instead, the illusion is somehow based on something the target would absolutely believe at that moment. If Aizen's time imprisoned allowed him to reconnect with his zanpakuto, allowing him to become more powerful than when he fought Ichigo, what better way to express that reconnection and heightened power than by achieving bankai?
this is a crazy shout but it would be real cool if you did a sorta hypothesis vid or a what if type of video on what would of happened if the thousand year blood war arc had started mid eroncar arc like if they invaded while the main battles in the city were just getting started would aizen and the eroncar have fought along side the soul reapers so on and so forth you get it
Man, I haven't seen the manga and you are spoiling it all for me right now, but I love it and can't stop watching your videos and learning more and more about the yet to be animated parts of Bleach.
If Hyogoku has the power to manifest people's desires, then technically it did do that for Aizen. Maybe it knew Aizen could not gain power by simply transforming but instead allowed him to lose against Ichigo in order to gain more power.
Like destiny made manifest. In order to gain more power Aizen had to grow more than just his body but also his mind, and so by being deafeted by Ichigo but not killed would mean he'd become even more powerful in the future and actually get his wish to challenge god himself.
The fact that he was able to go challenge SK Yhwach speaks volumes. Dude has the power to run circles around the Almighty. And that’s after a single year spent strapped to a chair, bound and imprisoned! Can you imagine what he’ll be like if he appears in the Hell Arc? One of the biggest things I’m looking forward to seeing is them possibly expanding upon is Aizen & Ichigo vs. Yhwach.
I wouldn't say he could challenge Yhwach. Aizen didn't really seem to be able to land a single hit on yhwach while he was under kyoka, whereas Yhwach absolutely demolished aizen while under kyoka
You do have a point but it’s worth noting that he kept coming back for more. Yhwach put a hole in his chest and ripped off his arm, but Aizen was right back in the fight. The power difference is notable, but at the same time, it’s a testament to how important he was to help Ichigo get in close for the Getsuga Tensho. Almost anyone else in his position would’ve been one shot
@@philzh7973 That's putting it lightly, Aizen is literally the only person who could have pulled that off.
@@filthywalffle2633 to even affect ywach with KS is proof that aizen is somewhat relative to him in power.
We already know the rule. For all abilities, reiatsu is the deciding factor. Weak people will be suppressed by the strong.
But Ywach could not suppress KS, meaning aizen is in his ballpark. He rivals him.
Among all the current cast, only ichigo and aizen can make that claim and this was aizen with seals. What if he wasnt sealed? What if instead of imprisoned for 2 years he trained and developed?
What if like ichigo he had time to take a few births in soul palace + eat some food?
Ywach was fighting a nerfed aizen whilst he was at full power and aizen still caused trouble for him. With a few changes ie no seals, training instead of sitting down, aizen would likely be able to be a real threat to yYwatch's health.
Just my 2 cents.
@@alispeed5095 Aizen can't do anything to Almighty YH no matter how strong he is. That's why the silver plot arrow was needed. Cause even if Aizen was able to defeat him somehow, YH can just make it so that never happened and bring himself back to life.
Also I really have come to develop a new appreciation for Aizen’s transformations and his fall from grace, the imagery does really lend itself to the story by depicting Aizen’s downfall in a truly artistic fashion.
After this video, im convinced that Aizen was able to hit new game + after he got his sentence. Man had none of the skill but all the power
It's really interesting to speculate what is Aizen's current mindset. It's obvious he has cooled down after his defeat in deicide. But looking at his behaviour during TYBW it's still feels he's in control of his own situation, at least for the most part. Remebreb how during Everything But The Rain he says somehing like: "if original goal wasn't reached, sometimes it's because it was surpassed".
I'm making lunch, and I was wondering when tommo was going to post another video. My question was answered 2 minutes later.
10:20 I understood this as either undoing the first seal allowed him to activate KS in some way, which could have given him the control over Kyoraku to make him unlock the others, OR, KS was already activated and when Kyoraku thought he was just unlocking the one seal, he actually unlocked the others as well.
Mrtommo, i have been returning to your videos but the last few months i havent been seeing the subs and viewers grow weekly per usual... very sad. Keep trucking great content.
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Also worth mentioning that Aizen couldn't prevent Yhwach from ripping off his arm and impaling him through the chest despite Kyoka Suigetsu being active. We later see The arm still missing and chest wound still bleeding even when Kyoka Suigetsu ran out. That also reinforces the idea that Aizen can't control the Illusions when cast on someone far above his level like God Yhwach
ya but can control to a certain extent and more importantly can put him in illusion. Because Yhwach did think it was Ichigo he impailed ripped the arm off.
Their fight was great. Everyone knew yawach was leagues above aizen and was gonna win but aizens tricks gave ichigo the opportunity nobody else could.
@@jamesgleason6870 Fair point 😊. Wish it was all 5 war threats \ potentials / vs Sk. Ywach with stolen C.C. Yamamoto in all.
In tybw he still has the hogyoku so it's basically limitless if needed.
When we get to cour 3 and 4 in the anime I'm hoping they expand much of the appearances of Aizen to really add more depth and understanding to his new power levels. The final fight obviously, but even all the prior moments would be well served to have expanded time with him and dialogue from others to give more clarity to the scope of what he can do
An interpretation I have, whether Kubo intended this or not, is that his chair represents how his imprisonment is an illusion. I mean he could have been imprisoned any number of ways but Kubo went with throne like imagery specifically. I see it as showing that since Aizen has refocused himself the Hogyoku actually DOES recognize him is its master again now that he has accepted his new outlook on power. It also makes the Hogyoku feel even more personified, as if it never truly stopped serving Aizen but knew it had to strip Aizen down in order to help its master achieve his true wish before granting that power back.
I always thought that when kyoraku undone his mouth seal that granted aizen the ability to use kyoka suigetsus power a lil bit and decided to mess with shunsui by appearing before him
Aizen was still immortal which was a part of his Hōgyoku fusion so he couldn't have lost all his power after fighting Ichigo. He was just weakened enough to restrain and capture him. So there is no reason for me to believe he lost all the Hōgyoku power if he is still immortal because of it
Aizan upgrade was his cool new chair fitted for a king like himself lol
I always took the scene with Aizen & Kyoraku as that since Aizen had fused with his blade, a single seal off his mouth was enough to allow him to cast the Kyōka Suigetsu projection / Shikai release. But since he was still sealed he couldn't exactly get out, and it seems like Kyoraku picks up on the fact that something is off and doesn't play into Aizens hands here.
So, Aizen is strong enough to beat the Zero Division during his fight with Ichigo. Then he gets passively stronger in the Muken, and he’s able to fight full power Yhwach and hold his own. So, yea, the answer to “does he deserve a seat at the table” is unequivocally yes.
Who else "seats at the table?"
Arthur and his knights
Good video
For the reset I think it has to do with what Ichigo said. Aizen was lonely, he was so special he felt isolated. But now that he lost he had to reexamine, to realize his Zanpakutou was there and he could at least learn more.
For strength I think the final fight is pretty clear. Ichigo had to land the last blow and Bach did say that Ichigo's Bankai had an ability he didn't want to fighting while he never said that for Aizen. Aizen is solidly third strongest alive, not counting maybe Ichibe due to how weird his powers are.
*Babe, I gotta go. New MrTommo just dropped*
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*Its an Aizen video*
_understandable, have a nice day_
I figured that Aizen was unsure how his Kyoka Suigetsu would effect someone in possession of the Soul King’s power. He has always been able to control what a person experiences while under hypnosis, and there’s no reason for that to stop being true. However he is also smart enough to know that his power may not measure up to the Soul King. So he probably assumed that even if his power did work on Ywbach, it’s effect may not be exactly what he intended. His response leaves it unclear whether it was or wasn’t.
Give me a “Turn Back The Pendulum” arc of a young Aizen learning he is so much stronger than his peers, as well as those he initially looked up to. Then learning about the Soul King and becoming completely disillusioned by Soul Society and suffering from loneliness in his power and view of the world around him.
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Aizen would make a perfect Head Captain, if he would have fallen in line.
Falling in line is very downgrading for aizen. He would have missed all the immense power he has now. He did the best choice
Powerful enough that Shiro Sagisu saw fit to give his theme song (Treachery) an epic remix for TYBW.
Very Powerful #NothingButTheFacts
I strongly agree with you
Really loved your thoughts in this video. Thank you for your work.
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We're all so close in seeing this in Animation. ❤❤🎉 Thank you Kubo and VIZ!! ❤❤🎉
note: also makes sense that aizen met zero squad right before leaving soul society? because his power could possible confuse all of them? i dont remember, at end of aizen being captured they talked about soul king. but aizen must of received his sword then mastered bankai on them
How do you think Aizen would do against each individual member of the Schutzstaffel? Watching this video made me wonder based on how powerful he had become
Question's a little backwards, honestly. How well would they do against Aizen? Not great, in all likelihood.
@@SinHurr I’m not so sure, dealing with intangibility, miracle, poison, and evolutionary change seems like it would be interesting to me.
@@U2EZINVISIBLE All severe hurdles to be sure. But at some point they'd "Kenpachi" Aizen, blowing his restraining clothes off, then they'd all be boned in extraordinary fashion.
@@SinHurr would love to see pernida fight him ad gain his own version of KS, along w aizens intellect. pernida is super fun, and broken lol
The purpose of aizens quote about appearing ro be ichigo is bc he was implaled by yhwach arm. Typically to break the KS spell, u would have to either touch the blade before its release, or be in direct physical contact with aizen.
This is due to the fact that Aizen spiritual pressure is so beyond the level of normal sugar going to the point that it can automatically create its own layer of barrier
I still wonder what will tommo do when he eventually runs out of bleach content
I would love to see videos on other series
"Running out of bleach content" haha you don't know vast the bleach verse is friend. Those other series will come up in centuries I fear
@@Everythingz127 especially with the new realm and Hellverse and Ichigo as newly husband and father and crew add on roles.
btw that bloodborne video smacked. BB is my second favorite fromsoft game so hearing people cheese about it makes me happy lol
Curious as to what you think the line meant that Kubo added to the anime about Yhwach being able to kill Aizen during their chat. Was it hubris from Yhwach, and he was overestimating himself? Was it him hinting at Sankt Altar? Maybe he knows that the Hogyoku was part Soul King and that's what gave it its power and since he absorbed the SK do you think he knew he had this power and was planning on it?
It's curious that Kubo went out of his way to add that line into the anime for sure
TYBW versus Deicide Aizen and Ichigo scaling is really convoluted because of the whole transcendent thing and both descend back down to normal levels.
It really just depends who wants to argue what, but it's really open to interpretation.
Hey tommo my boy can you possibly make a how strong Gin ichimaru is video. I’m really curious to hear about his peak capabilities and where he ranks amongst others in power 👀
It does feel like if there is ever an underworld arc, Aizen could make a Frieza like resurection to primary villain of the series
Mr. Tommo.. I just got to say.. I usually really like your content, and this is pretty good content to, but I really subbed to get more bleach related news when new info is dropping.. don't get me wrong, I listed to these full videos when I am working, it helps time go back quick but multiple times now, new info has dropped and you haven't talked about it at all.. You don't even mention it, you just keep making speculation videos.. which are cool, but we like hearing about the new info as well especially since the series is actually back.. I know these speculation videos kept you going for some time when bleach was on hiatus but now that there is new content, it is ok to talk about that stuff to.. Im on the edge of my seat waiting to hear you break that stuff down... just feedback from a subscriber.