Illegal Harley-Davidson Performance Coming To An End (Thank the EPA)
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2024
- Harley-Davidson performance is about to change real quick and there's a lot of unknowns. The government is cracking down on performance exhaust and tuners for your Harley-Davidson motorcycle. Major and popular Harley-Davidson exhaust and tuner manufacturers are only offering EPA compliant products. This makes many of the performance parts we love not only more expensive to buy, but underperforming from where they were before the government stepped in. This may be the end of the Harley-Davidson performance as we know it unless we re-imagine it.
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How do you feel about this EPA crack down on aftermarket performance parts? Will you be running EPA legal tunes and exhaust on your motorcycle?
I will not comply. The government over regulation in this country is out of control!
More Americans losing their jobs? Mission accomplished! -EPA
I feel for the youth of America.
It come down to how you vote! And I do not mean one party or the other. Few seem to resist, many complain! Complaining is as far as most do, unfortunately!
I stopped buying new vehicles almost 20 years ago.
I love my old EVO it has no emissions junk on it except for crank vent to air cleaner & that's easy to hook back up ! HD died in 2007 for me & most of my crew !
*ILLEGAL* ?
The only thing illegal here is the EPA making laws
This!
Word
You said it!
Just like the ATF... 🤨
We the people using our vote created the EPA under Nixon and sane people still want the EPA to protect the environment from greedy corporations destroying it for profits.
EXACTLY!!
If it is not in the constitution or allowed by it, it is no law.
Rules, regulations, mandates, executive orders, and so on
ARE NOT LAW!!
Screw the gov. The more of this I hear, the less I care and the less I will comply.
you will comply one way or the other, you already complying but not realizing.
They do this slowly in stages and they put it in law, so for example: you modify your pipes, you go riding and you get ticket for loud pipes. if you don't pay ticket you lose your license, and so on. Eventually you keep "braking" law and you become criminal.....
If you think this is impossible, just look at Europe, and even closer,
California is starting with this for quite some time.
stay safe
@@aussie1546 I agree. It is the old boiling the frog parable. Australians are especially guilty of complying with several of their tyrannical government's "laws".What happened in that country during COVID was disgusting. What happened in some states here in the US was equally disgusting. Non compliance is a choice. Will it have consequences? Absolutely. It cost me my job during COVID. Some things are worth it. Maintaining individual freedoms is paramount regardless of the price.
@@aussie1546 I've ridden bikes for 49 years and have never had a motorcycle license. Why would I bother getting one now?
@@gaiustacitus4242 you are correct, one thing in life is for sure and that is death, everything else is optional.
So you don't mind a massive fine and being thrown into prison over something this stupid. Go hack the cats off your vehicle while your at it, the law applies the same now as motorcycles.
I’m not a fan of this. I’m happy to be older, I’m so sick of the world today
I had the same thought just the other day
It's not even the same world it was in the 90's and we thought it was going to crap back then. I would love to go back even just for a little while.
Well I'm not that old and I wish citizens would help stop the destruction of this great country. People need help the school system indoctrination instead of teaching freedom will not exist in very near future
Warrrrr wartrrrrrrrr warrrrr
I couldn't agree more !
The EPA, coming up with solutions to problems that don’t exist.
The government has mastered that hat trick!
China and almost every other country pollutes way more than America and Europe I used to think White privilege didn't exist but after seeing all the pointless crap we do when there's people starving all over the world and we're worried about exhaust films from a motorcycle first world problems
Otherwise they have no reason to exist. No reason to exist no power no money no jobs no executive careers.
The problem does exist, I enjoy quiet.
@@PaulHodgson-gm6lgYou're in for a long, miserable life... Ever been in a black neighborhood? Tell them to stop screeching and screaming because "you enjoy quiet".👌🤡
Overreach.
So, what's next? Lawnmowers and chainsaws? How about those private jets?
That's exactly what it is and part of why cheap push mower is 200 bucks.
weed eaters
They already did the snowblowers from two cycle to four cycle engines. Remember, the only people that are going to be able to have SUVs and and Harley Davidson with straight pipes are going to be the politicians
Nah, private jets are safe. Us poor folk don’t have any of those. That’s for the super rich to avoid us heathens.
ERPO, Gas furnace, coal, wood burning stove, real cow meat, home ownership, cashless society, 15 minute city's eating bugs and owning nothing. WEF, NWO, W.H.O, removing 2A is the main target starting with felony next ERPO= where you call and say you know this person and you are scared they have firearms they fo and take them. That's next
I guess people will just stop buying new Harleys and get boot legged tuners. This government is just a bunch of criminals.
All politicians are tyrants for no man should ever rule over another
And everyone who loves the cops are gonna be pulled by them, fined and towed.
NWO COMMUNIST CRIMINALS.
I rode HD for 40 years. I got rid of my 2017 Road Glide and bought a BMW K1600B. Nice quiet ride. It will smoke a HD even with the stage 4 crap.
@@kevindecker9444 it's all about enjoying it. Ride safe.
It’s no longer about the environment, it is about compliance to the rules that they establish.
I can use one word to describe what the EPA is all about "POWER".
No it’s about money. Nothing is about the environment.
It's all about control!
It's always been about that.
As it always was 😏
Its about the loss of freedom. Motorcycles represent a scary threat to order
Bingo! Can't have groups of people getting together doing what they love putting their money together and showing up in force to give toys to children.
@@GixxerFoo And scaring the shit outa motorists passing at 80mph with your pipes sounding like DC-3's!
You bought this on yourself my friend
Put the phone down and pay attention to the road
Proof positive that HD owners are some of the stupidest guys on the road.
LMFAO what a chicken little stance.
I didn't vote for the EPA so I say we call the people we did vote for and have them eliminate these illegal overreaches by administrative agencies.
if you are one who voted demrat your not gona get any help from them
Seriously defund the EPA. (Employment Prevention Agency)
Not that I agree with everything the epa does, there has to be corporate oversight or they will destroy our environment for profit.
@@masterofnonetv8361don't tell me you're one of them people that's worried cows farting and causing gas emissions
EPA requirements CREATE jobs as they force further discovery, experimentation, and technology. Jobs that all provide for a better living than being on the production line.
@@masterofnonetv8361
You mean like slinging depleted uranium across the middle east?
@@masterofnonetv8361what we do doesn't make a great impact while countries like China, Mexico are taking manufacturing and giving no care whatsoever about pollution. It is only handicapping the US. I guess some ppl like to believe they are making a difference while they are actually doing nothing but sending money, and jobs oversea. Epa does create jobs of big government overreach. There is only one ozone we are just allowing China and Mexico to do our polluting and collect the profit while ppl here feel a false sense of moral victory. Where are all the batteries going to go? When a diesel truck losing 5-10 mpg with emissions what are you really saving? It just makes the vehicles more expensive to buy, maintain, repair, and often less dependable. I have an epa certification and had to learn the ozone and all that garbage. It's not going to matter if all countries aren't following the same standards.
Wake up people. Vote different. F the EPA. were getting hammered while the rest of the world laughs at us.
FJB-FEPA....
We are laughing, but not because of the EPA 😂
One party, one plan.
Are you in Australia? We are the laughing stock...
Can't fix this through voting...way past that point.
I was raised a Democrat from compassionate parents who believed in helping the underprivileged, and unions. Unfortunately the party not only undermines jobs, but is %1000 wrong on their quest to reduce carbon emissions. It's been proven that electric cars actually pollute more than if they didn't exist! Here in California, it is getting so out of hand that they want to bann gas gardening equipment! They are on an agenda that has no benefit, while ruining our culture of motoring. Vote them out!
I am all about helping my fellow American but this stuff isn't benefiting anyone other than raising costs and making it harder for anyone to help themselves let alone their neighbor.
Biden has made everything so much worse. He doesn’t do anything for the American people except more regulations we need Trump
So are you changing parties? Step over here on the other side and join us Republicans :TRUMP in 2024
@@Hoglife I'm 55, and remember the cars in the 60's and 70's.......We definitely needed to clean it up, but I live in the now! Today U.S. EPA cert vehicles run clean enough! As for motorcycles, the government needs to.leave them the hell alone! We are a tiny fraction that benefits society in size, and mpg. Unfortunately the Democrats don't know when to back off, and need to heed the message!
It's plain and simple. The Republicans are Democrats now and the Democrats are now *COMMUNISTS!* 🤮🤑😮🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
This is so stupid it makes no sense. Other than the EPA needs to be decommissioned
That's just great!! Screw all the little guys that just want their bikes to work better and last longer. Our government sucks!
They are literally trying to squeeze it out of existence, they hate us.
They don't want your bikes to last. Just like cars and trucks. They are building them to fail forcing the individual to have to buy replacement bikes.
You nailed it! Except, it is no longer our Government.
Straight pipes DO NOT make you bikes work better and last longer! Grow up!
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp Get your head out of your rearward facing orifice. Straight pipes were never intended to make a bike run better or last longer. The full intention was 1st to make a statement and 2nd to be heard so we don't become road kill.
It's been many years since I've had my heart broken, but that video did it.
I'm pushing 70, and have been wrenching on, building, and riding for 51yrs.
If they come for my bikes, that's the end of the road for me, because I plan to die owning a Harley, no matter how it happens.
They know they can't kick the door in an seize your bikes but they are gonna do it in a way where you can no longer buy, sell or manufacture parts for the grandfathered in machines. That's gonna dry up the market and what's out there now is all there is.
@@GixxerFoo
I'm waiting for them to come after the older, non anything compliant bikes like my '72 ElectraGlide and '97 WideGlide too.
I've been thinking that for years.
@@GixxerFoo You a paranoid nutcase my man! Nobodies after your bikes! Just the illegal ones!
@@GixxerFoo Yup! They don't want anybody on the road anyway. They are shooting for total control of the masses. Although I feel they will try to rid the world of as many of us as they can first.
You can still technically "own" your bike, but you won't be able to drive it without passing gov't inspection. Our bikes will be living room conversation ornaments. I was recently pulled over for a "documents check". The cop noticed that my headlight was not DOT compliant. Yup, had to replace it with a DOT compliant headlight. Many cities already do random testing for loud exhaust during traffic stops, using decibel meters. It's just going to keep getting worse.
carburetors for the win! no tuner needed
A well tuned carburetor only take the turn of a screw driver and it can be just as efficient as any FI system if you ask me.
Love my S&S carb.
Watch them outlaw carburetors. I wouldn’t put it past these EPA clowns.
@@GixxerFoo You know that's bullshit! How many cars have carburetors?
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp Cars have FI because it's easy and consistent, and the CPU/sensors adjust for changes in altitudes.
I'm a firm believer in deregulation. Every law made is one more right taken away from us
It happens little by little every single day and we don't get it back.
ERPO
Warrrrr warrrrr warrrrr
You have to fundamentally realize the EPA, an executive branch function, cannot make laws! Only Congress can. This is so far out of the Constitution's law!!!!
Laws and regulations cannot buy their nature increase our freedoms they are only methods to decrease freedoms. Sometimes necessary but rarely so in my opinion. We could come at this ecological responsibility problem with a lot more wisdom that’s for sure. The local small businesses in the lower and middle class citizens should be considered not just when Congress passes a law but with bureaucrats implement the enforcement of these regulations there needs to be ethics reviews.
I’m so glad that I’m at the end of my stay in this plane. I’m also old enough I don’t need anything with a computer. 1982 Shovel head FXS and a 1968 C10 Chevy P/U. You all take care and stay safe. Pray for this country.
I ride a carbureted ‘03 Concours, and my truck is a ‘71 C25.
Love my 86 S10 w/4speed manual too💯👍
The only power they have is the power you give them, we the people! So stand up people against the oppressor. 😮
“I’m from the government (epa) and I’m here to help”. Uhhh sure OK. Fool me once…
That's the worst thing any government can say...
I've been really enjoying my 150+ hp 128 build. Screw the EPA.
Hell of it is the motorcycle community in the US is miniscule. We are a drop in the ocean. Meanwhile SE Asia and India are chock full of bikes and scooters belching out god knows what into the atmosphere. I had already made up my mind to keep the Twin Cam 103 HO running as long as I can even if it means a new motor someday. The Rinehart's still free flowing and sounding great 10 years on.
That's what kills me is they are squeezing the life out of us with emissions here while the rest of the world is still spewing unregulated emissions like it's pre 1970's.
The whole fr****ckn world can ride motorcycles without emissions and it won't make a damn difference to our environment. BS false narrative to create wealth for a privileged group in CONTROL. 👎
One man's tuning is another man's tampering.
Yep. I live in Cambodia. People burn tires in the front yard in rural areas. The government burns all their throughout the country in open fields. The pesticides we have are incredibly dangerous. But we have more rights to do what we want. I'm an American but after this I'm seeing similarities to China. It hurts my hurt. I wanted to go back and buy two bikes but now I have to learn how to smuggle. Shit.
@@moustachio334 I smuggled a bike in from Canada in 1976 by simply riding it across the border. I had to do that because it didn't pass EPA emissions standards and therefore couldn't be imported. The agents working the border checkpoint were unaware that the bike wasn't legal in the U.S.
The old bikes just went up in value
The old bikes and all the used parts floating around up there! I believe it's gonna become illegal to manufacture non compliant parts in the end.
@@GixxerFoo Sad, but true.
Abolish the EPA.
And all three letter agencies that only authority under the constitution is to abolish themselves
This is also another way to put small shops out of business. They want all small businesses gone. These bastards won't leave us alone.
I can attest to I feel that, I pay my business taxes and my gosh it's like they hate you. I feel like I don't produce enough and they always want more and more from you.
@@GixxerFoo HARD TO FIGHT THEM
They already shut me down in Colorado. We had a thrift shop. They're separating the middle class. Making small business strugle rent for a 3000 sqft building here went from $3000 a month to 7-9k. We are screwed if we keep putting up with this crap. Honestly, how much damage has the last 3 years of bullshit created.
@@HarleyGeezer1954 It's not hard, everyone is just too comfortable , which may not be that way for long. Look at all the universities protesting. They aren't complaining that it's too hard.
@@holeshotinspectionllc2412 Wait for the next 5. The libs seem confident Biden will win again. The fix is in.
Our government is getting out of control and needs to be defunded! Useless clowns running the show!
I would say vote them out but I don't even feel that's free and fair after our last presidential election.
My Father, may he rest in peace, would say that politicians should be limited to 2 terms...One term in office and One term in behind bars!
@@tarmak968 Hahaha. I like that!! 😂
Warrrrrrr
Useless clowns running 120dbA straight pipes scaring the shit outa motorists.
The EPA is not a part of the legislative branch. They have no legal authority to strongarm companies into these drastic changes which affect every single aftermarket parts company or shop for that matter. This is major regulation without legislation. A faceless organization like the EPA cannot do whatever they please under the guise of a regulatory agency. Contact your state senators/representatives, it’s the only way to fight back against the EPA’s abuse of authority.
Not the only way…
I’d like to know the other ways you imply. I mean, if the senate or house don’t do anything, EPA won’t listen to us just cause we complain unfortunately. Senate or house are really the only authority the EPA would have to answer to. Maybe courts if they get involved.
Lets not forget about the nasty bastard ATF...
I'll keep my 96" and big shots. No hassle fun!
Exactly! We might see an explosion in the used market for many more reasons now!
told my dad, my 05 bored and stroked 103 could be worth something soon.@@GixxerFoo
I will not be running any EPA compliance motorcycles. A help for me is this is the last year of vehicle inspections in Texas although that didn’t stop me anyway. I am a retired lifelong mechanic/technician however you want to say it and I have never complied. I only speak for myself and everyone else can run their own race.
So you are admitting you are a criminal eh my man!
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp absolutely and so are you every time you go one mile over the speed limit or roll through a stop sign! When they say that what I legally own now is now outlawed is the day I become an outlaw! The way things are changing that is the best place to be!
@@Chainsaw2373 I do not intentionally go one mile over the speed limit or roll through a stop sign.
Intent is part of the Law. Way over your head I know my friend.
You Harley clowns think you are immune from the Law.
You are outlaws already with your 120dbA straight pipes.
(My 1990 FXRS is on its original pipes - and the better for it)
Time police officers had sound measuring devices and put you off the road on the spot.
You are a public nuisance.
Finally, law abiding people have had enough of you and your sorry ass ignorant ilk, Chainsaw!
You have shit in your nest to often my friend! Grow up!
My father told me I was nuts selling my 1977 XLCH! Once again, he was right! I could fix and do anything with that MC with regular tools. And it was a beast!
We are so far from bikes like that now, it's getting crazy...
Won't matter, they will find a way to get the old ones off the road, watch and see 😳
I'm from the Government and I'm here to help. 😂
I'll keep my old carbed Sportster and Low Rider, thank you very much. 🤘♥️
Hell yeah keep it if you got it these days!
02 kaw vn800 with a 96 engine, nice Keihin CV in it and Chinese fake short shots with removable mufflers...haha
Same here. I like my carbureted 2005 Sportster and the 1995 Dyna FXDWG I just bought and ride.
I had 2 carbed 883, wish I still had either one
Government started ruined cars in the 70s because of emissions!!
It will happen to motorcycles,
Exactly why I daily drive my 1964 mercury, in summer months, and my evo Harley.
I know modern cars and bikes are faster.
But I don’t care.
Cars back then were a necessity, I am hoping if that happens to motorcycles they can survive it and make come back like performance in cars did.
That’s funny ! I own a 68 mercury and an evo harley ! I get it ……
The new ones are faster to the wrecking yard, Chunk junk. You keep that 64 Merc for the rest of your days, True U.S.A. like my old Fords, last more than a lifetime if you take care of it, Like the old Harleys infanently rebuildable
Thanks for the heads up. One step closer toward the abyss of regulating everything we do. Another day closer to 1984. :-(
It's truly scary how close it is and rhin about when 1984 was written.
The EPA - Government, is coming for more than motorcycles, Very soon !
You mean like gas stoves and wood burning stoves? Oh wait...
In case the maga jabs didn't tip their hand.
They're coming for U Two.
@@bobm9509 don't think you'reimmune. They are coming for you too.
@@elliottnunez1057
I don't think I'm immune.
I don't understand how many different ways our government has to demonstrate we are the carbon they want to eliminate before the people catch on.
The EPA almost has 'carte blanche" to do as it pleases all in the name of saving the environment. We need an administration that has the balls to regulate the EPA.
Aircraft, particularly military aircraft have zero regulations about emissions . (ground vehicles are just as bad or worse as they get less maintenance and less well trained operators)
It looks cool to see full afterburners applied but the pollution level is way higher than almost anything I've ever ridden (including Maico 490 that only got about 16~20 mpg but did less than 1,500 miles a year racing)
If the EPA is serious about pollution, they need to look at everything not just easily regulated targets that are easy to find en mass at bike events.
yea ws the people need to get this country back if its not to late
@@johnnycampbell5611 not sure what you mean when billionaires send manufacturing overseas (Apple in particular although there are thousands of others) Too many in California and other states are too idle to actually work so illegal immigrants do menial but necessary manual work on farms owned by consortium's that take the profits and don't care how they get them. At least it's not the 80's when 'Greed is good' was everywhere
I don't care what the government says... I will do what I want. If I can't buy a part, I will create it. I am a capable engineer.
The world needs more people like you! That attitude needs to be the backbone of American society!
It's time to elect new people to represent you, this crap comes from politicians following outside influence, its not about clean air its about the WEF wanting us not to have our own personal transport. Legislate us off the roads period.
As you said it is not about clean air. It is about FJB.
They hate us, plain and simple. We are peasants and we don't mean crap to our elected leaders.
If it were about clean Air Stan Meyer and Troy Reed would still be doing what They both proved worked. And our Skies would not be filled with Aerosolled puke.
@@GixxerFooexactly! This is such BS! We should all just ignore it!
We will start making our own stuff and don’t get your bikes inspected!
Some crazy paranoid nut cases in tis thread. Nobody wants to legislate you off the roads. There are more motorcycles on the road than ever! Grow up!
I think a lot of us saw this coming for a while. It makes me love my carburated bikes even more.
The percentage of motorcycles versus cars on the highway is pretty low… this is really unfortunate for riders
Lets get rid of the EPA
Fortunately my Harleys are carbureted, and already have non cat exhausts on them. I have tuned the carburetors so the engines run properly with the exhaust, meaning not too lean. I have no interest in performance when it comes to Harleys. I fulfill my need for speed with a race car on the dragstrip. For me it's all about the sound and that wonderful Harley shake. Unfortunately, newer Harleys no longer have any shake, and barely any sound, making them worthless to me. Just a few days ago I was parked at a gas pump in my car. After filling up my tank, I went in and got a cup of coffee, and went back to the car. The parking spaces by the front were empty. I was sorting through some stuff in the car, and when I was ready to leave, I looked up and saw what looked like a fairly new Harley parked there, less than 30 feet away. I was like, how did that get there? I should have heard a Harley pull up 30 feet away. I sat there and waited for the rider to come back out, with my drivers door window down. He got on, backed up a little, and took off. I didn't hear anything when he started moving. He rode by me about 15 feet away, and I could just barely hear it. My old '85 Goldwing made more noise than that Harley. Being nearly new, it had to have been expensive. I kept thinking to myself, why would anybody spend that kind of money for a Harley that had none of what people have always bought and rode Harleys for?
Typical Government BS!!! Gota have a hand in everything, Big Brother is Watching!!!
Crushing the bikes at the beginning is heartbreaking. In no world should that happen. If it was taken from a drug dealer, auction it off and give proceeds to women/children, homeless, rehab programs… anything but scrap. Every government agency is dysfunctional, at best.
Ps… Get a TTS Master tuner, laptop and get educated on how to do it yourself. Someone will always “break the code” and we need to support those patriots among us lol
You read my mind! My hat is off to those guys that get manufacturer ECM's and basically break into them and reverse engineer their code to be able to program and tune factory ECM's. They are the real heroes in the fight for right to repair and customize our own machinery these days.
@@GixxerFoo Those guys are criminals.
New York State has made it illegal to have aftermarket (racing/loud) exhaust on cars and motorcycles, and many independent shops, as well as Harley dealers are refusing to inspect those that have them, because of severe penalties. There are, though, a few that are still inspecting them. This REALLY sucks, because people, like me, have had their exhaust done, and bike tuned, many years ago, and don't even have the stock exhaust, anymore.
I dont know why this kind of stuff even happens... how could the EPA even justify this? Motorcycles are literally the smallest drop in the ocean when it comes to air pollution. Hell, even here in California, motorcycles can use the carpool lane because they're so much easier on fuel than cars.
We really need to figure out where all this absolute horse**** overreach is coming from.
If they're worried about hotrodded bikes outrunning the police, you can get a bone stock liter bike that'll do that all day... shit just doesn't make any sense.
Absolutely!! Motorcycles are a tiny percentage of everything registered and honestly the absolute best on fuel of anything out there!!
It's the dem's... and it's all about control. One word says it all.. Control.
@@GixxerFoo any idea if they're going to start imposing emissions tests? What about all the bikes that are currently modified and have been so for years?
@@ronlind1757 not just the dems, but the World Econimic forum & the UN & 1 world order & that old serpant the Devil who has control of the dems
@@ronlind1757 It will not matter too much who you vote for. Its damned if you do and damned if you don't. Its a world wide thing.
I should say in westernized country's places like China Pakistan India Russia do as they please.
Kevin Baxter just did a video on this and how it affects his business. Frankly, I'm feeling pretty happy with my carburetor evos right now. Don't worry, the motor company won't be disappointed when the independent guys are gone. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have a hand encouraging the EPA to do it's job
I can only imagine how it's going to affect Kevin Baxter's business and he's a lot bigger than I am. It's got me nervous and I am wondering if they could come after me being just being a little side shop hole in the wall.
@@GixxerFoo only time will tell. I think a guy like Kevin is more at risk. He also said that he won't risk his lively hood or his financial well-being if he has to choose between a customer's desire on a build and facing the government boot. My words there. You also brought up the same point about bike technology lagging behind automotive innovation. They'll figure it out but it won't be tomorrow. I appreciate you and your videos. I've learned a lot from you, thanks, keep it up!
@@GixxerFoo where are you located i need to get motor done before its to late i have a 96’ twin cam i want a 110 build can you do it…
Why do people call it the motor company?
@@GixxerFoo In the 1990's, the Canadian government came after small-shop gun stores and effectively wiped them out across the country without any compensation.
This is the tip of the iceberg. Slippery slope, my friend.
It is, it's gonna hurt a lot of people just making a living owning shop.
Slope we are doing 90mph down hill
ITS THE BOLSHEVIK SQUEEZE.
Surprise the algorithm that you use the word Bolshevik. I've used it on numerous blocks and the algorithms doesn't allow posting the word Bolshevik.
They have been out of control for years!!!
For sure. They tell us to get out of our cars and sit in a window box,and close the door. Then when you can get back into your car,cmon sheeple!
They're creating a whole new underground for this stuff. It's not going away.
That little indy shop piled with parts that only has a path to the counter through the sea of parts, that's our new best friend.
This is all bad news for motorcycle freedom. The idea that this is going to have any effect on the environment is laughable, given how few motorcycles there are compared to other road transport & how few miles are covered by those motorcycles. The EPA should get their priorities in order, because all they’re doing is destroying the livelihoods of a dedicated after market industry for no real benefit to anyone!
The government hates us and hates motorcycles!
No, they're profiting from whatever THEY say put on your car or bike. A$5 pcv does what a $200 egr will. The epa says pay 200.
Less government=less bs
Exactly!
After market parts will never go away. It’s not happening
I bought a Dynojet tuner a couple of years back and I tune my own bike, it's an advantage of being a mechanic. Push come to shove I could always go back to carbs and points. Great info, thanks
Hell yeah! Points and a carb makes you ungovernable, they ain't coming after the bikes they are coming after the parts and those who make and supply them.
We need manufacturing and retail shops to ban together and say No . The problem is companies, and maybe even the Motor Co ( screaming eagle) , will not be in this fight! Big corporations have lobbyists that drive this sh t to eliminate competition and Harley profits nothing from the aftermarket options that we all support. There needs to be major resistance to this and it does not matter what party is in power ,the EPA is out of control!
They are cracking down hard on the companies that manufacture parts. I guarantee they pointed to the example they made out of Harley-Davidson to every parts manufacturer out there to twist their arm to comply.
Quit buying it. Find old school bike. Fuck it. I got 02 fatboy carb. And 13 street glide. Get the parts now for spares.
The upside is that stayìng stock saves LOTS of money for beer. 😂
Alright you got me there, I do like to sit in the shop and have a cold one admiring my Harley lol.
The beer is okay, but boring, uneventful performance sends chills 😨.
Here in Pennsylvania if your bike or auto is 25yrs old you can apply for antique plates registration, one time deal permanent, never have to register, no state inspections ever again, thats what I did for my 1991flhs, I do my own maintaining anyways 😊
I am just wondering how long that is gonna last with the "climate crisis"...
@@GixxerFoo I don't believe under the antique plates registry of that being a issue, pretty much why I registered my Harley that way, but will all find out down the road.
Swap meets will be the best place to buy pipes now.
That's exactly what think this is aimed at, removing manufacturing of non compliant parts is the goal. Next on the list is anyone who sells them, then they are after the installers being shops, then the private citizen in their garage.
Dont worry about all this bs epa pressure. Big changes coming and gov getting flipped upside down soon😂
EPA needs to leave the motorcycles alone. Bet California is behind it all
Too damn bad "THEY" never look up at our skies full of aerosolled puke
Of course they are... They can just F OFF!
Motorcyclists need to leave their motorcycles alone.
You bought this on yourself with your 120dbA pipes.
You are a public nuisance!
I bet Elon will announce a prototype motorcycle soon.
@@moustachio334 Harley Davidson already has an Electric Motorcycle my friend!
SSSSSHHHHHH, THE GOVERNMENT IS LISTENING
If I suddenly disappear ya'll know why!
GOOD ! And you got it right, The Government, Not our Government
Thank you for all the support you give us in all your videos, sad nothing stays the same.
Thank you for watching and supporting us! Sadly nothing stays the same and the change is arguably not always better.
The way my jaw dropped when they wrecked those Street glides😮😥
Made me sick honestly to see it when I first saw that.
Those were proto types
What about the thousands of jets fly over us every day
The hypocrisy is absolutely astounding!
Exactly! Especially the ones bombarding us with chemtrails containing who knows what! Ever notice how some days it looks like they're playing tic, tac toe in the sky?
Here’s the thing guys; there’s more of us than there is of them. We let them do this to the car and truck aftermarket world, the guns, the FDA.
We’ve got to band together and shut this crap down! We’re better than this!
And no I’m not okay with this. But! I will say, them doing what they did with car parts caused me to have my buddy teach me how to weld when it came time to do the exhaust on my foxbody. I’m not a pro or quality welder by any means, but it’ll hold!!!
So maybe I’ll get better at working on my own bike and custom tuning it myself!
It's literally down to having to do it yourself! You weld like me then!
@@GixxerFoo Yes sir! Well, I guess I’ll be learning how to install the woods 222, and dark horse compensator next!
I wanted a 2-1 exhaust for my bike, but $800+ is insane. I chopped up my stock exhaust and made my own 2-1 shorty exhaust for pretty much free besides a baffle I bought.
On a lamer note, I 3D printed an air filter cover for my big sucker instead of buying something for $100.
We have to fight back against government over reach but we also need to return to figuring stuff out in our own and not opening the parts catalog for everything.
The government is getting way out of hand. They've forgotten we the people are their boss
Uncle Joe literally got in the face of a UAW worker and said "I don't work for you" after he literally said you work for me. There's a video of it they've tried to bury.
Enough rules already
The government is keeping me from pursuing happiness and I don't like it
That hit home for me, I have put so many things off like shop expansion out of fear of keeping the door open with this.
Bullshit! You can still ride your HOG. But it has to meet the Law.
Bulshit the silver bulshit open your eyes buddy look around the government is destroying the country
All about the money. Always has been. Just do not comply
I’m curious about the 2026 regulations that REQUIRE remote shut off on vehicles will apply to motorcycles as well.
Imagine riding your bike and a cop just shuts it off. OR the bike itself shuts itself off because the bike determined you are riding erratically.
That's absolute insanity that could even be a remote possibility, no pun intended.
Do you watch Thrashin vlogs? They were riding a new 24 and it happened while they were ripping it up on the beach in Daytona and that was the first thing I thought. ECM/RDRS shut it down
@@scottplacella4332 I don’t think they will stop there. I think the next thing will be that police will be able to download data from the vehicle on the spot to determine things like, maybe you were speeding an hour ago, and that will be enough to issue you a ticket.
There is NO 2026 regulations that REQUIRE remote shut off on vehicles. You pulled that outa your behind!
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp yes there is. But don't take my word for it, Google or UA-cam search.
They started with slip ons. Now they cost twice as much because they have the catalytic converter.
Always enjoy your video's brother... But the damn government needs to stay the hell out of our business 👊🏽😎
What we do in our garage is our business. We pay our taxes on our property we already own and paid for year after like our roads and we should be able to operate our vehicles we are taxed on when we bought them and taxed every year on freely.
@@GixxerFoo we sure do... Year after year on the same stuff we own...paid for or not...our school taxes here are a thousand bucks a year and that doesn't even count on property tax and all the rest that we have to pay....I know everyone is sick and tired of the same ol same...Goverment isn't supposed to be in business but they are definitely the biggest business I know....thanks again brother!
@@GixxerFoo Before long the Government may own your garage as ALL property will belong to the Government. Under this tyranny you will not do as you please but what the Government requires of you in THEIR garage. By the way, you will still pay taxes, and if you're lucky, the amount is predicated on your poverty level.
I do not believe this is what we hired them for. They cannot even see heavy chemtrailed skies. Just the green money if they obey.
We're lucky in Australia , it isn't that strict yet , it's only excessive noise that can be a problem , it's not uncommon for friends to share stock pipes to pass compliance 🤗
That's the greatest idea I have ever heard, a stock pipe share program to skirt the system... that's the American way or Aussie way we need to adopt here in America.
The way it's all going makes me thankful I can do all my own work.
Absolutely! It's scary what's happening. Used parts values are going to sky rocket as it's looking like any new parts for older bikes, even newish bikes that are non compliant are gonna be discontinued.
I put in the 110 tire shredder on my 2011 dyna street bob (bought new) in 2017. I'm still more than happy with it as it's making 106hp122tq!!!
The torque is what it's all about! That's the one thing that even with emissions that will increase, cats actually help with torque!
This makes me glad that I have and intend to keep my older HD's. Motorcycles make up a very small amount of the problem .
Exactly! There's not a lot of us and we are such a rain drop in an ocean! Lawn mowers make up more exhaust emissions collectively than motorcycles.
FJB!
Amen to that!!
Agreed FJB
You will own nothing, have nothing and you'll like it
Just had to make this political @GixxerFoo? I’ll be unsubscribing to your channel. FDJT!!!!
@@budgreene8142You vil eet ze bugs inside of your zleeping pod und you vil be hhappy. Or elts!
Fuel and engine development is key. Better burn and less “pollution” coming out the exhaust. Another well researched video-thanks for posting.
Thank you! The problem for air cooled bikes is those lean fuel burns create a lot of heat and adding cats to the exhaust they can't regulate temperature like a water cooled bike.
Funny thing, when I bought my 2001 FLSTF in 2002, it was slightly used with like 1500 on the clock, a few chrome pieces added and still under warranty. The bike came with new straight pipes. I had to go out and purchase stock headers and then I put on Screaming Eagle pipes to quiet them down as I put a fairing on the bike, and I could not hear my 150amp setup with the straight pipes. Then I bought a 2 into one custom pipes made by a guy in Hong Kong. I saw people were selling these 2 into one pipes on Ebay for like 500 and I looked into who made them and I called the guy up and it was some guy in Hong Kong how ran a custom chop shop. I paid him 250 over the phone and he shipped the pipes overnight. Crazy. I did this to clean up the area around the brake calibers on the back wheel. The 2 into 1 are actually a muffler with baffles and are street legal as far as noise is concerned. I still run the stock carb, though it has been rebuilt like 3 times over the years. This begs the question, lots of old iron out there. How are they going to come after us with our old iron. I also have a 73 XLCH converted to electric knee. My point is, my fatboy was illegal from the dealership and now it's legal or as legal as you can get in 2001. I don't see the state of Ohio forcing people to go through echecks / emissions for motorcycles anytime soon.
It’s the governments job to protect my rights, not protect my health, or my mpg!!!!
Vote accordingly folks!!!
100% agree! It's time for change!
Good luck with voting! We can see where that’s gotten us!
@@GixxerFoo unfortunately you are correct!!
You'll own nothing and be happy! Right , Time to figure out how to deal with them. Thanks for sharing this with us.
They don't want us to own anything, they want you to rent from a big corporation that pays big money to the government.
So glad I bought one of the LAST HD "Super Tuners" for my Twin Cam Roadglide, & have 2 carbed softails from the early '90's.🙄 The EPA is the ENEMY! You could make YOUR OWN stepped headers, like I did, + make your own baffles, if ya know what your doing.
Are you saying that there will be state run emissions inspections for motorcycles similar to cars and trucks?
That's going to be left up to states. The one good thing the government did was not allow the states to set their own emissions regulations. California being a perfect example as to why it was a good thing that went away. CARB was the reason that got taken from the states and we all know how insane that is.
The EPA needs to go the way of the doh doh bird
They want to push electric still. !!!!!!!!! Government 😡
Electric is not even sustainable!
I am so ready to be gone from this world. So sick of this Government. I will not live a slave to these people.
This is part of the reason I like my carbed softail
Super annoying that the govt is now micro managing down to MCs and lawn mowers. There is a point of diminishing return - there will be little to no return on air quality for all of these restrictive regs and changes. In many parts of the country there is a limited riding season due to the weather. So they are micro managing a part-time, (and for most a) secondary vehicle. At some point it will either become too expensive or too much of a hassle to own a new MC. They are going to KILL the secondary market becuse whats the point of adding performance parts if they add little value due to the govt regs and restrictions.
All it's doing is driving up cost, less people can afford to buy them which in turn leads to less production. Then people lose jobs at all levels when the parts suppliers and factories down size to accomodate the lower production demand.
@@GixxerFoo agreed. The entire industry is down and the last thing it needs is more govt hurdles and road blocks
I’m on my 4th Harley And to this day I have never had an inspection sticker for my bike’s. Got a speeding ticket several months ago and was never asked for it. I guess at some point I need to get one. lol
Glad I got my 2 Brothers when I did. I'm going after a tuner in a couple days. My 2022 Street Bob is 6 months away from the warranty being out.
That junkyard scene was super hard to watch. 😢
I couldn't be the guy running the equipment
Here in Pennsylvania they don’t even have emissions on diesels that spew black smoke. When you’re riding you have to pass them on a double yellow line or get cancer. I’m sure they aren’t going to mess with motorcycles here as they’ve always been cool to bikes. Just the same I better get my target tune soon
I would get it while you can, I am glad I have a FP3 and the older PowerVision now!
@@GixxerFoo
Waiting for the next fuel moto sale, already have the PV.
Don't worry. The guy who sold you the emissions defeat device will give the epa your name and info.
How does this effect the home built chopper crowd, shovels, pan heads,Evo's knuckle heads, or does it?
If they push it hard and depending what state you're in you can't get it registered. Manufacturers can't produce, distributors can't sell parts that don't meet emissions standards. Hopefully it will be grandfathered in.
@@GixxerFoo I'm guessing that the biggest old chopper crowd is in California, we know how screwed up the California government is.
@@GixxerFoohad to jump through so many hoops just five years ago trying to go legit with my 81 fxwg. Had to drive two hours away just to get a vehicle inspection and had to explain to the gentleman that I knew the blinkers didn't work but hand signals were still legal. Luckily he passed it. Still ride FI more than carbed though.
Making a new motorcycle uses a lot of energy, in fuel, electricity etc. That electricity is made mostly by burning coal. The fuel to mine & then transport raw materials to factories. The fuel to transport parts to factories etc. The fuel to get the finished product to dealerships. The electricity every step of the way through mining, factories, dealerships etc. Then we need to recharge the batteries in these new bikes, by you guessed it.... electricity from burning coal. Way less emissions by riding my Flathrad U Model chopper.
P.S. My Flathead never came with catalytic convertors 🤣
Happy trails, Cowpoke
The Vance and Hines short shots was an exhaust that produced a great sound. Do these new exhaust with catalytic converters change the sound?
On the short shots I would say it's gonna knock that sound down a bit and increase power with those pipes in particular.
Not too early to tell. It'll only get worse. It's the way everything is going. Everything.
I wasn't trying to go there but you're right!
this was a good episode about a sad story, considering MCs are much smaller displacements than just about any car. I have a 2008 FX which preceeded catalytic converters w/ S&S cams, heads, camchest, and slipons, and and FP3 tune so I'm basically all done. I hope that I wont have any issues unless/until they decide to emissions test MCs in NY. But maybe Ill be grandfathered in. What's your thought.
I think yes, the older bikes will be grandfathered in BUT... they are ban production of performance parts in some way which will directly affect the older bikes. They are going to make loop holes to exploit any way they can.
Why would they sabotage the tax they make of these aftermarket parts !